Dave · June 12, 2007 at 9:30 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

We deal in probabilities a lot here on the blog. Sometimes, a game could care less about probability. Jarrod Washburn walks 5 guys in 6 innings and only gives up 2 runs, he he gets an RBI single. Ryan Theriot and Felix Pie destroy pitches for 300 foot flyouts. Carloz Zambrano pinch-hits. Jose Vidro almost goes yard, then Turbo actually scores from second on a single by Willie Bloomquist while not running hard all the way or sliding into home plate. Alfonso Soriano draws a four pitch walk.

This game was a middle-finger to probability. It was crazy, it made no sense, and it was awesome.

To borrow from Lookout Landing, Putz wooooooooooo.


91 Responses to “Crazy”

  1. Mr. Egaas on June 12th, 2007 9:36 pm

    Game of the year, baby!

    It may not last, but it’s sure been fun.

  2. Chris on June 12th, 2007 9:36 pm

    Insanity! I love it! So much fun to see this team battle. And it sounds like Lowe is getting ready to return.

  3. Goose on June 12th, 2007 9:37 pm

    That game that nearly killed the LL server.

  4. juneau_fan on June 12th, 2007 9:38 pm

    Been sitting here, snuggled up next to my computer speakers for…well, however long the game was. 4 1/2 hours? I turn on the TV, which had been on FSN long enough to find out that a pool tourney was going to be followed by volleyball…and there’s Sims and Blowers giving the game wrapup! How the fuck long had it been on? Or had they just put it on when the volleyball ended? Crazy is the right word for this night. The Mariners took control, even of the airwaves!

    Hope poor Putz’s sore belly didn’t take too tough of a pounding after that very scrappy save.

    So! Willy to pitch tomorrow?

  5. JMB on June 12th, 2007 9:48 pm

    Aaaaand… picked up a game on the other three teams in the division, as all three lost today.

  6. brian_sun on June 12th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Just came back from Wrigley. I don’t know how the M’s can play like this every day. Even the fans were exhausted. The Cubs gave this game away. no outs, bases loaded and they couldn’t score the go-ahead run. The Mariners are now 30-0 leading after 7, even though they blew a save again today. Once they got into extra inning, you sort of know the M’s will win, because the Cubs have been terrible in close games, especially at home and in extra innings. The M’s might have something special this year.

  7. Sports on a Schtick on June 12th, 2007 9:54 pm

    They just showed the replay on Sportscenter.

    LOL. That was sweet.

  8. brian_sun on June 12th, 2007 9:54 pm

    #5: but you didn’t pick up a game on the wildcard though. There was some no-hitter going on in Detroit.

  9. on June 12th, 2007 9:55 pm

    And Vidro makes a semi-lateral movement to snag a line drive! While playing the field!?! And Washburn with a RBI? It’s like God finally watched the 2006 Superbowl and was like, dang, I owe these guys some.

  10. Slippery Elmer on June 12th, 2007 9:55 pm

    A postgame caller from Athena, Oregon (20 miles away from me) has just deemed Will-Blo the MVP (presumably of the team, this season.) He sounds like he’s a daft octegenarian, at the least. It’s sad when people get senile like that…

    (That’s not to say Wee Willie hasn’t thrived in his particular spots this season. I think he’s been quite well-utilized, refreshingly.)

  11. juneau_fan on June 12th, 2007 9:58 pm

    I’m parked on ESPNews, praying for a Lou news conference. Pleeeaasssee!

    Then again, even Dave sounded utterly exhausted on the radio. Didn’t even realize the game was over. Maybe Lou won’t be able to summon the energy to be furious.

  12. brian_sun on June 12th, 2007 9:58 pm

    #9: To be fair to Vidro, the ball he hit in the 13th would’ve gone out 99% of the time, if not for the wind blowing in. He deserved that run, and he was instrumental to this win as much as George Sherril in the 8th.

  13. on June 12th, 2007 10:02 pm

    12: completely agree. I think that is part of what made this game seem so very strange. Vidro actually deserved a home run, but later scores after being out by 5 feet at home!

  14. msb on June 12th, 2007 10:14 pm


    sigh. aside from a caller named Kerry (who weirded out the guys with her well thought out & phrased question about the substitutions in the bottom of the 13th), pretty much all the post-game calls are from older guys (like the fella from Athena) who want to know why that Willie doesn’t get to play more, ’cause see what happens?

    AB appears to have re-injured the thumb, so all those guys may be getting their wish.

  15. PositivePaul on June 12th, 2007 10:15 pm

    Hey now… Putz saved the game, sure.

    But GS52′s performance was at least as good. He came on in a MUCH tougher situation, and got the job as done as he possibly could. One out, runners on 2nd and third, tie game, no runs score.

    Yeah, baby!

    We over at Mariners Morsels say: “Atta Boy, George!!!!”

  16. msb on June 12th, 2007 10:17 pm


    hmm. can I have 3 boyfriends?

  17. Troy J on June 12th, 2007 10:17 pm

    juneau fan, all the m’s tv games will be on fsn in alaska. im sorry to tell you that the whole game was on.

  18. AuburnM on June 12th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Bullpen, Bullpen, Bullpen!!!!!!

    Those guys make all the craziness possible.

    Mariner ROCK!!!

  19. Slippery Elmer on June 12th, 2007 10:24 pm

    msb #14:

    “sigh. aside from a caller named Kerry (who weirded out the guys with her well thought out & phrased question about the substitutions in the bottom of the 13th). . .”

    That was a great moment. No one’s ever accused the M’s postgame crew of being overly cerebral–without a generous helping of facetiousness, and when confronted with a novel notion such as expressed by said caller, they were more dumbfounded than Paris Hilton upon realizing she’d have to forego her victory party and return to jail.

  20. joser on June 12th, 2007 10:25 pm

    msb, as long as you’re willing to share with Lauren, yes.

    Don’t forget the run on a balk. Seriously, about the only thing missing was the suicide squeeze, and Vidro’s “run” to the plate pretty much qualified (watching Ichrio on that play is hilarious — first he’s frantically motioning to slide, slide! then he looks disgusted, then confused, then grinning ear to ear).

    And if Vidro “deserved” a home run on that hit, there were at least a couple of Cubs that would’ve deserved one just as much, and the game would’ve already been over. The wind saved more for the M’s than it took away. Once it started blowing in that hard the only person who could’ve got one out was Sexson, assuming he could actually find a way to make contact with the ball.

  21. joser on June 12th, 2007 10:27 pm

    Yeah, how about Sherril and O’Flair? He had his first at-bat, ever, in the middle of the thing and just kept rocking.

    RHP Mark Lowe, on the 60-day DL following surgery on his right elbow, will throw two more bullpen sessions and one or two simulated games before beginning a minor league rehab stint next week.

  22. juneau_fan on June 12th, 2007 10:28 pm

    17. I’ve whined about this way too much in the game threads, but I’ll beat my dead horse some more. About a game a week is on KSTW. I check the Mariners site, and they said today’s game was on there, I checked FSN, which usually has the pre-game and it was some dude playing pool. I didn’t *recheck* at gametime; perhaps I should have.

    Then again, they sometimes I do a replay the next morning; I could waste my entire morning watching! The other day, they replayed the game immediately after it ended. Like, they couldn’t find any bull riding to put in there?

  23. thenatural on June 12th, 2007 10:28 pm

    I have to say that today’s and yesterday’s games were the best Mariners games I’ve seen in a long while.

    I just hope that they can start making things a little less interesting late in the games from now on and just win outright…

  24. juneau_fan on June 12th, 2007 10:31 pm

    I’ve seen the Vidro ‘dash’ to home a couple of times on ESPN and WTF was he doing down the 3rd base line? I know he’s slow, but he sort of stumbled to a halt, looked around aimlessly, then shuffled on down to home. Perhaps he confused Barrett into dropping the ball.

    I assume Garcia did one of his ‘wave ‘em home, OOPS, stop!’ moves, but it’s totally the wrong guy to do it with. Garcia should have been racing with him, pushing.

  25. Mr. Egaas on June 12th, 2007 10:31 pm

    I still can’t believe Grover pinch hit for Beltre with Vidro. If anything, Willie, who was up third, should have been pinch hit for.

    I would have saved him for the pitcher spot due up 5th myself, and not put him in the field.

    Also, my roommate and I were almost killing ourselves when he left Green in. Morrow and Sherrill did pitch the day before though… but it just seemed inevitable that the Cubs would tie it up in the 8th.

  26. Slippery Elmer on June 12th, 2007 10:32 pm

    Beltre was hurt, Willie not.

  27. Slippery Elmer on June 12th, 2007 10:33 pm

    From the Seattle Times recap:

    “Washburn had entered the night tied with Detroit Tigers starter Kenny Rogers with 16 no-decisions in interleague play. His outing here now makes Washburn the all-time leader in that category.”


  28. optigan on June 12th, 2007 10:35 pm

    Are you sure that game could care less about probability? I mean, for starters, a game couldn’t be said to care, that’s a pathetic fallacy, I think. But if one could, I’d say that game couldn’t have cared less about it.

  29. Tom on June 12th, 2007 10:38 pm

    All aboard the hope train!!

  30. earinc on June 12th, 2007 10:39 pm

    Anyone see Justin Verlander hit 102 on the radar in 9th inning of his no-no tonight?! Hoo-boy!

  31. davepaisley on June 12th, 2007 10:40 pm

    Um, on the post game show Drayer said that Beltre couldn’t hold a bat, but could field, so Grover waited until his turn came up to pinch hit.

    Top two WPA?

    O’Flaherty .369
    WFB .322

    Honorable mention GS52 at .275
    Dishonorable mention: Sexson -.227

  32. earinc on June 12th, 2007 10:43 pm

    Speaking of crazy, the M’s have the 5th-best record in MLB.

  33. Scotts on June 12th, 2007 10:46 pm

    Just noticed the M’s W% would be leading the NL.

    Did someone cross the streams or something?

  34. Mr. Egaas on June 12th, 2007 10:48 pm

    It’s looking more and more like the M’s are going to be buyers instead of sellers at the deadline.

    Don’t sell the future, please.

  35. earinc on June 12th, 2007 11:01 pm

    If they bought a new manager, I’d chip in.

  36. bmanuw on June 12th, 2007 11:05 pm

    32. Even crazier?? That 5th best record would keep us out of the playoffs if they started today

  37. bmanuw on June 12th, 2007 11:06 pm

    2 things..

    Jamie Burke is awesome

    The play at the plate will always be known as the “Vidro Shuffle”

  38. Evan on June 12th, 2007 11:14 pm

    Jamie Burke is awesome.

    His career batting average with the bases loaded: .750

  39. agingfan on June 12th, 2007 11:16 pm

    The story on the wire is Vidro ran through a stop sign. Did anybody see that?

  40. ErikG803 on June 12th, 2007 11:27 pm

    I believe it. He had that “oh shit” kind of demeanor when he did… whatever you wanna call it.

  41. F-Rod on June 12th, 2007 11:32 pm

    Hell yes we should buy…and I don’t see what Hargrove has done wrong this year..Should we really have a much better record in your mind?

  42. juneau_fan on June 12th, 2007 11:34 pm

    “I was determined to score that run,” Vidro said. “In my mind, I wanted to get a good lead and score the run. [Third-base coach] Carlos [Garcia] tried to stop me, but I was committed to scoring. I ran past the side, and thank goodness [Barrett] missed the ball.”

    Okay, that’s just crazy.

    Crazy, like a fox, that is.

  43. lemonverbena on June 12th, 2007 11:49 pm

    has Vidro casually stepped onto the plate yet? Kenji’s non-slide looks textbook compared to whatever that ridiculous lurch-and-dance-around-the-dish was. that’s two huge plays at the plate in 3 days the M’s didn’t deserve runs on, but i am so enjoying this sick rush of breaks we got going. Bavasi, make yourself useful and find us a rent-a-pitcher without trading Jones.

    heart atttaaaack!!
    heart attack M’s!

  44. PositivePaul on June 13th, 2007 12:02 am

    Hey, I’ve been a Hargrove cynic for awhile now. But, his bullpen management has been very solid, if not darn good. He’s got his faults, but pen management is one of his strong points, to a point. He’s not always good there, of course, but he’s done very, very well with it as of late.

    I don’t believe we’re winning in spite of Grover, really. I still am not a fan of his, but he does deserve some credit for ekeing out the best from his bullpen, and being proactive in helping the M’s win…

  45. joser on June 13th, 2007 1:39 am

    Well, Hargrove is limited in the damage he can do when one of his key tools of mismanagement, Mateo, is unavailable to him.

  46. milendriel on June 13th, 2007 2:25 am

    You know your team’s offense is scorching hot when even WFB has a .400 OBP over the last week.

  47. Matthew Carruth on June 13th, 2007 3:08 am

    This team can win with Hargrove at the helm. I may mock Grover’s strategies now and then, but I don’t get too worked up about it…

    I live in mortal fear for what Bill Bavasi does next. I am desperately afraid of this team being a “buyer” come deadline time.

  48. phil333 on June 13th, 2007 4:53 am

    I couldn’t stand Grover last year and wanted him to get fired so badly but he has completely changed his bullpen management this year and it is leading to victories.

  49. Scotts on June 13th, 2007 5:37 am

    >>I am desperately afraid of this team being a “buyer” come deadline time.

    Gee, why? Last time they bought, it went great. Lessee, Clement and Feierabend for Brad Lidge sound about right?

  50. nuin on June 13th, 2007 5:37 am

    probability is a bitch

  51. Spanky on June 13th, 2007 6:59 am

    Would like to see other options at 3B than our very own budding star Willie. For the sake of argument, I’ll throw out some options…

    Willie “MVP Grit” Bloomquist

    Adam Jones (he was a SS prior to being moved to center…why not?)

    Raul Ibanez (there is a guy that plays for Cleveland named Raul Ibanez that plays 3B…maybe our Raul can also?)

  52. AuburnM on June 13th, 2007 7:01 am

    Why in the hell did Garcia have the stop sign up with two out?! Vidro was right to go, then wrong to stop, then wrong to not slide, then ridiculously lucky.

  53. lokiforever on June 13th, 2007 7:35 am

    I think the NL format forces Grover to think through his decisions….getting him out of auto-pilot mode, and thus making him a better manager.

  54. Paul B on June 13th, 2007 7:49 am

    When I was watching the game, I sure thought that I saw Garcia waving Vidro home. I must have been mistaken, considering the quote from Vidro.

    Yup, O’Flaherty was the biggest hero of the night.

    And someone needs to write a song on the legend of Jamie Burke.

    Of all the pitchers in the game, the one that I had the most confidence in was Sherrill. When he was pitching, I just knew the Cubs were going to do nothing.

    Oh, Grover, can we platoon Sexson, please?

  55. DoesntCompute on June 13th, 2007 8:03 am

    Other team slogan, “Refuse to Lose” “2 outs, so what?”

    2007 Mariner’s slogan, “Screw Probability”

  56. msb on June 13th, 2007 8:08 am

    possibly the stop sign was up because they all know that Vidro is the slowest runner on the team, and a likely out at home?

    I can’t decide my favorite post-game quote–

    Vidro’s “I saw the ball come loose, and I said, ‘Ooooooooooooh’”

    Washburn’s “Well, it went 13 innings and I came out after six. I’ll tell you the truth – I had a lot of ‘rally beers’ up here in the clubhouse.”

  57. Benno on June 13th, 2007 8:38 am

    The M’s are playing well, and getting the breaks. It is definately a good time to be a fan. I am worried about Beltre’s injured thumb. If he has to go on the DL, what do the M’s do? Morse is on the DL, the Rainiers 3B doesn’t look like a solution, is Tui on the 40 man roster? He has been hitting better this year, though it could be a reflection of his hot start. 3B depth isn’t strong in this organization.

  58. carcinogen on June 13th, 2007 9:17 am

    Dude, I declared…in front of witnesses…that if Willie was able to drive in Turbo I would place a personal moratorium on negativity against him for six months.

    Ok Willie…enjoy six months of me not ripping you.

  59. Jim Thomsen on June 13th, 2007 9:28 am

    So are the Mariners due for a crash if only because the bullpen — with the exception of the just-arrived Jake Woods — would appear to be beyond gassed? How important is it for the starters to go at least seven innings for the next few days?

    Or do the Mariners just keep getting bizarro wins by letting the pen-sters continue to be seemingly rubber-armed madmen?

  60. Evan on June 13th, 2007 9:28 am

    Garcia made a good call on Vidro’s run. Garcia threw up a stop sign, which Vidro SHOULD have obeyed. He didn’t, he did his little dance at home plate, and he scored, but that doesn’t mean it was a likely outcome.

    Garcia should have stopped Vidro, and Vidro should have stopped.

  61. msb on June 13th, 2007 9:30 am

    someone needs to write a song on the legend of Jamie Burke.

    aaaaannd now I’ve spent the whole morning humming ‘The hero of Canton’.

  62. awolfgang on June 13th, 2007 9:48 am

    Wasn’t Ichiro next at bat after willie? Vidro should have realized that Ichiro was coming up and the bases would be loaded so no place to walk him. If I was a gambling man I would have taken Ichiro with 2outs and the bases loaded over Vidro scoring from 2nd.

  63. Lauren, token chick on June 13th, 2007 9:50 am

    Our love for his bat…
    …is big, and he’s not a jerk!
    The hero of M’s-town,
    the man they call Burke…

  64. msb on June 13th, 2007 10:00 am

    now I have a vision of Jamie Burke in a pretty cunning hat.

  65. kmsandrbs on June 13th, 2007 10:27 am

    So … someone mentioned earlier that the M’s have the 5th best record in the majors (and still wouldn’t make the playoffs if they started today).

    Not that it’s likely to happen … but if Detroit and Cleveland both lost today, and we won, we would have the THIRD best winning percentage in the majors (and would make the playoffs).

    No offense to the M’s, who I love, but this just doesn’t feel like the third best team in the majors (or even the 5th). I mean, whose looking at their schedule and saying “Crap, Seattle’s coming to town.” (Other than those teams which say “Crap, there’s another baseball team coming to town.”)

    Is this the result of a twisted perception of the Mariners on my part, or that overall, there just aren’t many great teams this year? Or something else? Or just another example of “anything can happen in baseball?”

  66. Dave Clapper on June 13th, 2007 10:48 am

    Regarding the non-slide by Turbo… that’s been happening a lot lately and not just with Turbo. It seems like I’ve been screaming, “SLIDE, YOU IDIOT!” at the TV a lot lately. What’s the deal with the M’s refusing to slide into home?

  67. Sammy on June 13th, 2007 11:00 am

    62. Bases would not have been loaded for Ichiro; we would have had runners at the corners, and my guess is that they still would have IBB’d Ichiro.

  68. joser on June 13th, 2007 11:04 am

    The thing with Vidro is that if he’s not going to slide (for whatever reason) then he should be lowering his shoulder and going into the catcher. He’s a big guy who doesn’t play in the field, he can afford to do that.

    Kenji’s non-slide a couple of days ago when he was out at the plate is the same thing. I know that isn’t done much in Japan and there may be a professional courtesy thing among catchers, but he needs to at least make an effort to break up the play.

  69. Gomez on June 13th, 2007 11:05 am

    That was one of the most bizarre games I’ve ever seen.

    Thank goodness we got great pitching from O’Flaherty and Sherrill, especially those two huge back-to-back bases-loaded strikeouts by George that probably saved the ballgame.

  70. joser on June 13th, 2007 11:09 am

    Lauren, singing about her love of (one of) her boyfriend’s bat…

    Which leads to:
    Her boyfriend’s bat and you’re gonna’ be sorry
    Two outs, so what, her boyfriend’s bat!

  71. eponymous coward on June 13th, 2007 11:26 am

    Is this the result of a twisted perception of the Mariners on my part, or that overall, there just aren’t many great teams this year? Or something else? Or just another example of “anything can happen in baseball?”

    The NL is pretty bad- there really isn’t a dominant team there right now.

    The AL has Boston, Cleveland and Detroit, with the Angels being 4th… and a bunch of “WTF?” going on.

    Here’s the thing, though…

    “The Mariners played their 60th game Monday in Cleveland. In the first 30 games (through May 10), the club was 15-15, the team batting average was .264 and the team ERA was 5.14. In the second 30 games through Monday, the team was 19-11 with a .327 batting average and 4.47 ERA. Curiously, the club’s homer total fell from 31 to 27, but the runs scored total soared from 143 to 173.”

    This team is NOT going to hit .327 the rest of the year.

  72. davepaisley on June 13th, 2007 11:28 am

    Strangely, it seems that Vidro’s non-slide may have been a contributing factor to Marty “pitcher-slapper” Barrett’s fumb le of the ball. Seems he had one eye on Vidro, not really sure about what Vidro would do. Vidro, built like a fire hydrant, must have been quite imposing…

    #67 – If Vidro had held at third the bases *would* have been loaded (Vidro, Betancourt, WFB)with Ichiro up to bat. It was only Vidro scoring that opened up first base to walk Ichiro.

  73. davepaisley on June 13th, 2007 11:33 am

    71 – “This team is NOT going to hit .327 the rest of the year.”

    *NO* team is going to go 19-11 every 30 games, but most playoff teams will; have one or two 30 game stretches like it (think Detroit last year – .500 team second half of the year, IIRC).

    The fact that this team is capable of doing this over a 30 game stretch is encouraging.

  74. Evan on June 13th, 2007 11:45 am

    If hitting .327 means we play .633 ball, we don’t need to hit .327.

  75. eponymous coward on June 13th, 2007 11:48 am

    Well, actually, 19-11 comes out to 102-60 over a 162 game season. There are lots of teams that sustain that (or close to it) over a full season.

    It’s encouraging, sure, but this still may be an 85 win team on a hot streak.

  76. robbbbbb on June 13th, 2007 11:50 am

    Note something else: This is a contact-hitting team. They’re built to keep knocking singles around. Since singles are the most highly-variable part of an offense (just look at Ichiro’s numbers over his career), then the M’s are going to have hot and cold streaks that are more violent than other teams.

    When they’re riding high, like in this last 30 game stretch, they’ll look awesome. When they bottom out, though, it’ll be ugly for a while. The question is how long they can sustain the high times, and how long the lows are going to last.

    It’ll be a wild ride. Fun to watch, for sure.

  77. Morgan on June 13th, 2007 11:53 am

    Re 71
    We have been hitting .327 without some of the biggest pieces of our offense really clicking (Richie and Adrian). So, when Raul, Guillen, or Joh inevitably slump a little, couldn’t it be offset by Richie and/or Adrian finally hitting?

  78. Morgan on June 13th, 2007 11:55 am

    I realize Richie will never hit for average, but still, they would help

  79. Dave Clapper on June 13th, 2007 12:13 pm

    77: Beltre’s hit over .300 during that team .327 stretch.

  80. eponymous coward on June 13th, 2007 12:27 pm

    We have been hitting .327 without some of the biggest pieces of our offense really clicking (Richie and Adrian). So, when Raul, Guillen, or Joh inevitably slump a little, couldn’t it be offset by Richie and/or Adrian finally hitting?

    There are exactly ZERO MLB teams who’ve hit .327 over a full season in the modern era. Even in the 1920′s-1930′s, when the LEAGUE hit .290-.300, no team hit .327 for a full year. (The Giants hit .319/.367/.473 in 1930 to come closest to that, which explains why some of the weakest HOF’ers in history come from that era and team- a bunch of very average to sorta good players had massively inflated stats playing in New York, a recipe for bad HOF selections.)

    To expect a team to hit .327 for another 100 games, when they play half their games at Safeco, and it’s a team full of streaky hitters (hell, Ichiro has his .255 months where he looks like Omar Moreno)… well, it’s not going to happen.

  81. Beniitec on June 13th, 2007 12:35 pm

    Thanks EC!!! We don’t need no stinking warm fuzzies. Reality is reality. I mean…the earth would have to spin on a different axis in order for the Mariners to actually defy statistics. That’s why everyone here thought the Mariners would be where they are today even a month ago.

  82. Beniitec on June 13th, 2007 12:37 pm

    To quote the kid from Angels in the Outfield, “It can happen!” Either way… I think most of us are enjoying the wink from the Baseball gods that the Mariners have experienced in the last few weeks. Winning is neat.

  83. msb on June 13th, 2007 12:53 pm

    personally, I vote for the original version of Angels in the outfield, with the woeful Pirates as the team in need.

  84. dnc on June 13th, 2007 12:53 pm

    “We have been hitting .327 without some of the biggest pieces of our offense really clicking (Richie and Adrian).”

    Why does everyone insist on believing that Adrian is part of the problem? Will people ever learn to value what he brings to this team?

  85. eponymous coward on June 13th, 2007 12:55 pm

    Who says I’m not enjoying this, or that we can’t win some games?

    Hint: go look at Felix’s ERA and IP. We won’t be hitting .327 the rest of the year, but Felix is going to improve, too.

  86. Colorado M's Fan on June 13th, 2007 2:08 pm

    Granted, the M’s defense has not been its usual amazing self this season, but Mariners pitchers have the 3rd worst BABIP in the AL. If the teams Batting Average is unsustainably high, it will regress to the mean, but the teams pitching BABIP will probably regress too, which should help out.

    A couple of other factors to consider-

    The offense (and defense) will get even better when they eventually make Vidro the 10th batter, moving Raul to DH and Adam Jones, he of the .900 Tacoma OPS, to LF.

    If the team trades for a rent-a-pitcher like Buerhle at the deadline, that would probably add 2-3 wins.

    We have Lowe coming back.

    Lastly, I seriously doubt Sexson will tank an entire season like this when he’s fully healthy. Even last year, as horrible as he was, he still OPS’d about 1000 in the last month and a half. As we saw in the D-rays series, when Sexson is on this offense is terrifying, because we’re getting him baserunners by the bunches.

  87. lokiforever on June 13th, 2007 2:33 pm

    Raul to DH and Jones in the Outfield. Dave contends it will never happen. Or at least not this year, unless there’s an injury.

  88. Paul B on June 13th, 2007 3:22 pm

    The AL West is now 19-9 against the NL this year. Not sure if this is crazy luck or if the AL West is really that good.

    The AL is 58-43 against the NL. Most of that is the 10 games over .500 by the AL West.

    The White Sox (2-7) have the worst record intraleague. So the Cubs must have been beating on them pretty good.

  89. CouchGM on June 13th, 2007 3:34 pm

    So, what options do we have at third beyond WB16? Sean Burroughs didn’t work. Anyone at AAA/AA.

  90. Benno on June 13th, 2007 4:20 pm

    I did some looking at the M’s farm system, and this is what I found for 3b;

    238/289/310 – Ronnie Pettyman (AAA)
    288/330/397 – Brant Ust (AAA)
    313/383/485 – Mike Morse (AAA – Injured)
    293/412/438 – Mat Tui (AA)

    Pretty slim pickings down there. I think it was mentioned before the season began that Beltre was pretty indispensable. Unless Tui is for real or Beltre isn’t hurt that bad, this could be trouble down the line.

  91. Churchill on June 13th, 2007 4:21 pm

    Morse would have made sense short term, but he’s on the DL, too.

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