Game 73, Red Sox at Mariners

Dave · June 25, 2007 at 6:45 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Weaver vs Tavarez, 7:05 pm.

Jeff Weaver threw a complete game shutout in his last start. It was one of the most shocking developments in recent baseball history. If he throws one tonight, I’ll retire from blogging and prepare for the end of the world.

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463 Responses to “Game 73, Red Sox at Mariners”

  1. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 6:47 pm

    maybe ken shabby will offer free beer again, in the exceedingly unlikely event of another jeff weaver shutout.

  2. SequimRealEstate on June 25th, 2007 6:49 pm

    Please… NO… Miracles do happen!!!

  3. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 6:53 pm

    OK, so in the pregame show, how come Blowers and Rizzs are wearing blue jeans, but Krueger is wearing a suit and tie?

  4. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 7:00 pm

    Hargrove in his interview denigrating us because we didn’t believe that Weaver’s start against a bad hitting team was for real.

  5. Whaler on June 25th, 2007 7:01 pm

    Meanwhile, Tavarez has been a surprisingly effective (and psycho) 5th starter for the Sox. He gives up pretty many baserunners, but enough GB to keep things from getting out of hand. Odds on whether he rolls a ball to 1B tonight?

  6. Lucky Number on June 25th, 2007 7:13 pm

    If Weaver throws another complete game shut out, I’ll spring for free french fries for everyone at Safeco*
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    *Offer not valid

  7. David* on June 25th, 2007 7:16 pm

    I hope Jeff told his family not to watch today. This could get ugly.

    Nice K though of JD “possibly the worst signing of the off-season” Drew.

  8. fetish on June 25th, 2007 7:17 pm

    Weaver at least LOOKS good already. I’m no scout, but he’s throwing with a nice rhythm. My prediction: 6.2, 3 R, 2 BB, 5 K

  9. jefffrane on June 25th, 2007 7:17 pm

    Pedroia = Giovanni Ribisi!

  10. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 7:18 pm

    So much for the 27 strikout perfect game.

  11. thowe1 on June 25th, 2007 7:21 pm

    great support by neihaus, “Belted to deep right field”…. and it doesn’t even reach the track. Please, someone spring for some PRK or the Hall of Fame bid already and get this dude off the air.

  12. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Who honestly cares how well he judges a flyball? He makes the game a hell of a lot more enjoyable to watch/listen to.

  13. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 7:27 pm

    thanks david, i guess dave isn’t as perfect as #11

  14. Tak on June 25th, 2007 7:31 pm

    #7

    That would be Weaver

  15. NBarnes on June 25th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Not gonna get far with at-bats like Vidro’s. First pitch is aimed at Microsoft’s corporate campus, second pitch groundout to second.

  16. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Do you suppose those “Theme To Do Items” over to the right of this comment will ever get done?

  17. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:33 pm

    that was nasty…wow…

  18. Bucks on June 25th, 2007 7:33 pm

    Vidro is worthless

    Weaver, looks good, i might shoot myself later but im going with, 7.1, 3ER, 3BB, 6K

    also betting that Ramirez hits one out on Weaver

  19. scraps on June 25th, 2007 7:34 pm

    If the best you can say in defense of a professional’s repeated incompetence is that he’s entertaining, that’s pretty desperate. A standup comic is entertaining. A baseball play-by-play man should be informative and accurate first.

    If Niehaus were merely not perfect, that would be defensible. His dotage is a joke. In the rest of baseball, a man who stops being able to do a good job loses his job. It’s sentimentality that keeps announcers employed when they go bad. If you feel sentimental about Niehaus, that’s your prerogative, but spare us the self-righteousness about people pointing out that the guy can’t call a goddamned flyball.

  20. zzyzx on June 25th, 2007 7:35 pm

    I figure at some point the Sox will remember that they’re the Red Sox and the pitcher is Weaver…

  21. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 7:36 pm

    I think the blogosphere wouldn’t be the same without you Dave. I’d retract that though…just in case lightning strikes twice. Heh.

  22. AQ on June 25th, 2007 7:37 pm

    #19 – Amen – the broadcasting position is a job, not a Lifetime Achievement Award. If the man can’t do the job as effectively anymore, it’s completely fair for others to point it out. No one around here has a problem about pointing out Richie’s or Jeff Weaver’s flaws…

  23. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:38 pm

    the ball was hit hard…and it did sound like it was gone coming off the bat…cut the guy some slack…damn…

  24. DanO on June 25th, 2007 7:39 pm

    Scraps–I disagree with your premise that “A baseball play-by-play man should be informative and accurate first.” Personally, I follow baseball to be entertained; it’s not like it’s a seminar on international relations or anything that actually matters. I’d prefer someone who sometimes get things wrong, like Niehaus, to a million competent but dull Mike Blowerses.

    Also, ask the Cubs if they fired their old guy once he stopped being able to do his job…

  25. DanO on June 25th, 2007 7:41 pm

    Gotta love a 10-pitch double!

  26. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:41 pm

    was that really “tomahawked” or should he be fired…

    nice hit sexxy…

  27. David* on June 25th, 2007 7:41 pm

    I love Ben Broussard. I really do.

  28. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 7:42 pm

    I wonder if Richie’s wife gets weirded out by Niehaus calling him Sexy. :)

  29. zzyzx on June 25th, 2007 7:43 pm

    FWIW my reaction when the ball left Ortiz’s bat was to swear. It sure LOOKED like it was going to go.

  30. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:43 pm

    what is kenji doing? that is TURBO’S job…

  31. gag harbor on June 25th, 2007 7:43 pm

    Blowers can’t even identify a pitch.
    I have nostalgic reaasons (as we all do) for liking Niehaus and surprisingly, I really like Sims (a lot!). When is Curto going to get a chance? Never I suppose.

  32. fetish on June 25th, 2007 7:44 pm

    That was Tomahawked. accurate call.

  33. fetish on June 25th, 2007 7:44 pm

    BTW, Omar != Haller. Greatest Defensive SS? What happened to Ozzie Smith?

  34. Bucks on June 25th, 2007 7:44 pm

    Sims is the best thing to happen to the mariners since trading Rafael Soriano

  35. David J. Corcoran I on June 25th, 2007 7:45 pm

    Dave- were you serious?

  36. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:47 pm

    i dig simms because you can tell he doens’t know much about the team yet, has the east coast biased still, but he has fun at the game, doesn’t take it too seriously, and sounds like a great guy to be around…

  37. IdahoInvader on June 25th, 2007 7:47 pm

    35

    I had McCall-like traffic on my way home to Nampa from Boise. ;-)

    The cars were moving slower than Raul in LF

  38. msb on June 25th, 2007 7:47 pm

    OK, so in the pregame show, how come Blowers and Rizzs are wearing blue jeans, but Krueger is wearing a suit and tie?

    um, he’s a natty dresser?

    Mariners rules vs FSN? I still haven’t figured out why they are making Angie wear that stupid blazer she can barely get ’round herself these days.

  39. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 7:47 pm

    19, You’re letting your anger over the Mariners’ roster management spill over into an area where the concept of “competency” doesn’t mean as much. I don’t think anyone’s knowledge of the game suffers because of his innacuracies. The function of an announcer is very basic, to explain the game as it happens, and there is a large window for error and correction. For such a simple task, the value is in whether and how much they enhance the viewing experience. Yes, the game isn’t entertainment, but the play-by-play sort of is.

  40. David* on June 25th, 2007 7:49 pm

    Weaver-tastic!

  41. David J. Corcoran I on June 25th, 2007 7:49 pm

    37: From Nampa to Boise? Not the other way around? Because the Meridian bottleneck and associated traffic is on the westbound expressway. The eastbound is bad, but try driving BACK during rushhour. That’s Boise traffic as it didn’t exist in 2002.

  42. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:49 pm

    way to fuck yourself weaver…

  43. IdahoInvader on June 25th, 2007 7:49 pm

    Hmmm…

    Could’ve gotten him at second, since no one bothered to cover first…but horrendous throw.

  44. David J. Corcoran I on June 25th, 2007 7:49 pm

    Oh…”to Nampa from Boise”

    Yeah, Eagle Rd and the Meridian Bottleneck fuck that drive up.

  45. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Saved by Weaver…yay Dave.

  46. msb on June 25th, 2007 7:50 pm

    oh, I think the blame can be spread all around the infield.

  47. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:50 pm

    and it begins…

  48. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Well, that sucked.

  49. IdahoInvader on June 25th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Great athletic ability by Lopez on that whiff…geez

  50. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 7:51 pm

    Whee! Consecutive Little League boo-boos. :P

  51. msb on June 25th, 2007 7:51 pm

    I tend to forget how short Pedroia is until he stands next to Sexson.

  52. IdahoInvader on June 25th, 2007 7:52 pm

    44

    Yeah…brutal (like our infield today)

  53. matthew on June 25th, 2007 7:52 pm

    Thankfully Dave will be with us from here on out.

  54. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 7:53 pm

    #1: I was going to offer free Jell-O Pudding Popsâ„¢ for everyone if Weaver were to throw another CGSHO tonight, but alas it’s not meant to be. :(

  55. David J. Corcoran I on June 25th, 2007 7:53 pm

    I was on I-84 during rushhour a couple weeks ago for the first time since I left Boise in 2003. It’s gotten significantly worse…resembles big city traffic.

    I was slwoed down way before the flying wye (east of it, near Cole) and was just like WTF

  56. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:54 pm

    so if BB can play competant right and keep hitting, do we move guillen?

  57. IdahoInvader on June 25th, 2007 7:54 pm

    Yep, at the belt is still a strike there Big Papi!

  58. David J. Corcoran I on June 25th, 2007 7:54 pm

    Not as bad as South I-5 at the SR 512 junction at 5:00 on a Friday night, though

  59. zzyzx on June 25th, 2007 7:54 pm

    51 – I thought Boston was trying to even the odds by playing a little leaguer.

  60. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 7:55 pm

    Oh oh…the spit. That’s the power.

  61. David* on June 25th, 2007 7:55 pm

    Hey look, Vidro is the 2nd best DH in the AL.

  62. David J. Corcoran I on June 25th, 2007 7:55 pm

    My MLB.com Beat the Streak Streak lives!

  63. IdahoInvader on June 25th, 2007 7:55 pm

    If they’d just hit them harder, maybe we’d have a chance?

    Ugh

  64. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:56 pm

    weaver just said something to his infield…

  65. msb on June 25th, 2007 7:56 pm

    you know, Boston doesn’t really need the extra help. Really.

  66. Xteve X on June 25th, 2007 7:56 pm

    It’s probably a function of Dave working TV and radio at the same game. If you’re not watching the game you wouldn’t know the difference. Niehaus is still great even though he’s getting up there. I was stuck in Chicago for 4 years listening to Hawk Harrelson and DJ, ay caramba.

  67. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 7:56 pm

    yes!!! look at that! Turbo’s BA is only 41 points below Ortiz!!!

  68. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 25th, 2007 7:56 pm

    Wonder Twin powers, activate!

    Form of… a bad pitcher!

  69. IdahoInvader on June 25th, 2007 7:57 pm

    Wow…giving Drew a hit on that gaffe is pretty sad. The fact Lopez may not have touched it only emphasizes how bad he was on that weak grounder.

  70. David J. Corcoran I on June 25th, 2007 7:58 pm

    Oh man, but I tell you. I got stuck behind this 1P camper at SH-55 and Elo Rd south of McCall, and this sucker just backed traffic down Elo for like a mile waiting to turn.

    Damn Payettians

  71. thowe1 on June 25th, 2007 7:59 pm

    19: Thanks for the backup, and you know, I completely agree in the fact that any human, aside from weathermen and baseball announcers (see Harry Carey, Dave Niehaus, Jack Buck, etc…) would be fired for less incompetence. and Dan-O, did you suffer through the last 3 years of Harry’s broadcasts? it was honestly pathetic, and they should have put him out of his misery, but it’s the only thing those retarded Cubs fans had to hang onto….

    The knowledge and humor I would receive from a normal broadcast is typically supplemented by this board, which I definitely enjoy reading, except for people who can’t seem to grasp that Dave Niehaus is past his prime and being held onto like a hood ornament from a 1923 Rolls Royce – serves no purpose except for useless stories and a little reminiscence of what was.

  72. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 7:59 pm

    that’s two stike-outs with the drop-down-slider…maybe use it a little more?

  73. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 8:00 pm

    Did…Dreamweaver just strike out…Manny Ramirez? :O

  74. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 8:01 pm

    It’s not like Niehaus ever had a good eye for the ball off the bat. I remember well over a decade ago a Niehaus call “and that ball is BELTED, DEEP TO RIGHT FIELD and . . . the second baseman gathers it in with a fine running catch.”

  75. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 8:01 pm

    you want to hear useless stories and reminiscence? listen to a dodgers broadcast…fucking brutal…

  76. msb on June 25th, 2007 8:02 pm

    Weaver reminds me, Franklin was pitching for the Cards earlier on ESPN, and he has grown a full beard. It took me a minute to realize that was what it was, of course, for as with Weaver, with that fair hair it looked more like a skin condition …

  77. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:03 pm

    I really hate this guy’s body language. What is up with that?

  78. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 8:03 pm

    David Ortiz had 6 career steals before tonight.

    He had one last season. And one in 2005.

  79. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 8:05 pm

    I was fond of the Tom Seaver/Dave O’Brien duo (Mets). Ron Darling’s pretty good, too (I happen to get WPIX on Dish Network).

  80. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 8:05 pm

    Angels losing! Strange times…

  81. Alex on June 25th, 2007 8:05 pm

    That was the best-pitched 2-earned run inning I have seen in a really long time. And the worst fielding I’ve seen in a really long time also.

  82. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 8:07 pm

    Back in the late eighties the Orioles had Jim Palmer doing play by play and Brooks Robinson doing color. They were really good, Robinson kind of folksy but still informative and Palmer just kind of dryly savage about incompetence.

  83. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 8:08 pm

    so why is ellison on the team again?

  84. thowe1 on June 25th, 2007 8:08 pm

    75: That’s all the Dodgers have left is useless stories. They spent their money on everything else, including Schmidt’s shoulder and Lasorda’s hooker habit.

  85. Alex on June 25th, 2007 8:08 pm

    People who think that Niehaus should be fired are the same type of person who locks their parents up in nursing homes because they occasionally lose their car keys.
    Just shut up about it. You can sign up for mlb.tv and listen to the Red Sox broadcast on-line or turn the sound down. No one is making you listen. There are choices. Stop bitching about something you have a choice about.

  86. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:09 pm

    That would have been a homer in the Dome!

  87. thowe1 on June 25th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Skip Carey and Don Sutton were pretty good for the Bravos. Don has some seriously good insight into pitching approach to certain hitters and his analysis was enjoyable. I’d like to see him as a coach somewhere, but what the hell do I know….

  88. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 8:11 pm

    i have the direct tv package, and i’m not being a homer here, but our broadcasters are some of the best…the yanks, whitesox, angels and dodgers are terrible..i want to punch the wonder dog in the face…

  89. Alex on June 25th, 2007 8:12 pm

    Rex Hudler is the worst announcer ever. For all those who want to get rid of Niehaus, I challenge you to listen to an entire broadcast of Rex Hudler.

  90. UofMichgoMs on June 25th, 2007 8:14 pm

    I have mlb.tv and I get Niehuas. I don’t want those horribly biased Sox announcers.

  91. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 8:15 pm

    thank you Alex! i want to jump in the tv, grab “big vladdy’s” bat and pummel “the wonder dog” rex hudler every time the ms play down here…

  92. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 8:15 pm

    #89: I dunno, Rick Sutcliffe can be pretty unbearable at times. I just cringe at the thought of those two doing a game together.

  93. thowe1 on June 25th, 2007 8:15 pm

    Hey Dick, I mean Alex, it’s American to bitch about things we have choices over, especially when I don’t want to listen to the idiots in Bean Town talk about their stellar line up and recite ramblings from the Schilling blog.

    I am just saying that I think Niehaus has passed his prime, and I don’t think he should be broadcasting anymore… done.

  94. Alex on June 25th, 2007 8:16 pm

    What is happening to Lopez? Has he been hanging around Dave Krieg?

  95. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 8:17 pm

    I love Dave N as an announcer. However, Dave N has always been bad at play by play — he rarely gives the score, he misses some plays and pitches. He was doing that back in the ’80s. What are ya gonna do?

    For what it is worth, this year I am listening to the games on TV, whereas in previous years I would often turn the sound down on TV and listen to the radio (especially when Rizzs and Hendu were on TV…)

  96. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 8:19 pm

    Rizz and Hendu were way worse than what we have now…

  97. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 8:21 pm

    #93. why don’t you join take your rants to schilling’s blog.

  98. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 8:21 pm

    nice promo for the game on wednesday…”Dice-K vs. Seattle”… the rest of the sox have the night off?

  99. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 25th, 2007 8:21 pm

    We should trade Neihaus for Griffey.

  100. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 8:23 pm

    lookling forward to lou’s press conf. tonight, cubs blew a 5-run 9th ining lead and still haven’t recorded an out

  101. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 8:23 pm

    I’d trade a large bag of donuts for Griffey.

  102. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 8:24 pm

    89, 91: Thank you, brave souls, for reminding me that I’m not alone in this lifelong struggle to survive every game over which this “Huddler” fellow presides.

  103. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Weaver seems like he is pitching a pretty good game against a really good team. It’s not like their pitcher is Cy Young. Let’s get some offense here!

  104. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Weaver’s pitching reasonably well tonight. If it weren’t for his hideous throw and J-Lo playing defense like the other J-Lo we’d be leading 1-0.

  105. bakomariner on June 25th, 2007 8:26 pm

    yeah…we can still pull this out…

  106. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 8:26 pm

    100, wow! I was watching that game, but changed it in the 8th. Lou looks pissed…positively Ayalapissed. And Joejessica just made the first out! Heh…

  107. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 8:27 pm

    Any chance the Royals blow a 4 run lead tonight, wait make it a 2 run lead.

  108. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 8:30 pm

    If you want good analysis of a game, come here, or Lookout Landing, you’ll never get it from the TV or radio. Announcers are necessary for people new to the game, and just something to listen to while we watch an otherwise silent game, or to tell us what’s happening on the radio. There are too many broadcasters who’s voices are grating, or who say a lot of stupid and annoying stuff that detracts from the experience. Dave N. does none of these things, and provides a nice background. The notion that broadcasting should hold the same standard of performance as the players on the field, or jobs relating to the operation of the team is ludicrous. We’re not getting our asses kicked by Oakland because Dave N. can’t judge a flyball. It’s not such a big deal as to outweigh his other contributions to the viewing/listening experience.

  109. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 8:30 pm

    If the M’s sweep the Sox and the Royals sweep the Angels this week I’ll buy everyone here a Crying Joey Cora doll.

  110. SequimRealEstate on June 25th, 2007 8:32 pm

    Well said _David_ 108.

    Grg

  111. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:33 pm

    Hello. I’m a Red Sox fan. Not looking to troll or anything. Just thought I’d check in. Always interesting to hear what knowledgeable fans of other teams think about your players.

    Uh oh. Tavarez in one of his unpredictable funks.

  112. Whaler on June 25th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Looks like he may have a hurt leg. Mechanics have been whacked out last two batters.

  113. bmanuw on June 25th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Can M’s Fans sell out there own ballpark when the Sox or yanks come to town? Its pathetic to listen to the game on the radio and have it sound like a road game.

  114. gk91 on June 25th, 2007 8:34 pm

    How will you get the donuts away from Griffey?

  115. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 8:35 pm

    the Mariners draw back to back walks. They did that once last night, too.

  116. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:37 pm

    Tavarez mysteriously slips from very good to very bad with no warning all the time with or without turning an ankle.

    I have to say that Weaver’s definitely throwing harder than he did against the Sox at the home opener in Fenway in April.

    Though, I think he got lucky in having Lowell up that time with the bases loaded. Lowell’s got a bad thumb and he’s been useless for a couple weeks.

  117. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:39 pm

    Papi’s mad at himself for missing that one.

  118. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:40 pm

    Question, Does Ichiro usually do better, worse or about the same against sinkerballers like Tavarez?

    What’s the general expectation supposed to be of groundball hitter against groundball pitcher?

  119. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 8:40 pm

    This Jeff Weaver guy is really really good. I like him. Can we keep him, huh, huh, can we?

  120. johnb on June 25th, 2007 8:42 pm

    Weaver has been doing his job since he came off the DL. Everyone is waiting for the other foot to fall but he seems stronger in every start. Is is smoke and mirrors?

  121. zzyzx on June 25th, 2007 8:44 pm

    Wow, now the Cubs have the bases loaded with 2 outs. Excitement at Wrigley.

  122. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 8:44 pm

    shoe to drop?

  123. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:44 pm

    He’s thrown some fastballs 90 mph according to the NESN feed I see her in Massachusetts. When he pitched against the Sox in April I was kind of shocked at how low the gun readings were, fastballs consistently 85-86 it seemed.

  124. scraps on June 25th, 2007 8:44 pm

    I’ll grant that Niehaus is inoffensive; I just think that’s the bare minimum an announcer ought to offer.

    I’m not asking for analysis from Niehaus; I am asking for a reasonable degree of information and accuracy by the established standards of play-by-play announcers. Nothing fancy. Just meeting the professional standards of his profession.

  125. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 8:45 pm

    I am not convinced that Ichiro’s hitting can be predicted. When he is on, he is on, and when he is off, well, he beats out some routine grounders for infield hits.

  126. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 8:45 pm

    wow, cubs come back…guess lou will be a little nice at the postgame…

  127. johnb on June 25th, 2007 8:46 pm

    Niehaus has a comfortable, and familiar voice along with a history that goes back to the teams original orgin. He will be behind the mike as long as he wants, or is able to.

  128. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:47 pm

    Nah. He’ll still dump on his own players. He’s amazing. Not in a good way.

  129. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:48 pm

    What a surprise. Tavarez throws the ball away. Plus ca change . .

  130. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Garcia? No…Goff is 3b coach, even I saw that.

  131. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Any chance we could pinch hit for Bloomquist??

  132. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Suicide squeeze? Too expected.

  133. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:49 pm

    Or was that a flash of the 1st base side? Woops

  134. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:49 pm

    Wow…go Willie.

  135. Tak on June 25th, 2007 8:49 pm

    good stuff.

  136. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 8:50 pm

    Willie “Clutch” Boom Boom. Hah.

  137. theraven on June 25th, 2007 8:50 pm

    #131 Why would you pinch hit for Willie?

  138. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:50 pm

    A hit to . . Bloomquist?
    Sigh.

  139. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 8:50 pm

    Just who is this WFB? Is he a soul partner of JFW? Because they sure don’t remind me of players past around here …

  140. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:50 pm

    No…no need for bunting here. Hit it Ich.

  141. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 8:50 pm

    Oh, yeah, the infield BETTER play back here

  142. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 8:50 pm

    132, I thought of that, but with no outs, probably not a smart play.

  143. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 8:51 pm

    hmm, i figured squeeze since he can’t hit a flyball deep enough with the boomstick, but the basehit works…

  144. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 8:51 pm

    My apologies go out to Mr. Bloomquist although I would’ve preferred an extra base hit.

  145. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 8:51 pm

    138: why are you so down on a BASEHIT/RBI? Enjoy the game, mon!

  146. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:51 pm

    Gee, I thought Tavarez was spitting into his glove but he threw a fairly straight pitch on 1-1

  147. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 8:52 pm

    #137 Just being sarcastic, Bloomie’s my favorite Mariner.

  148. dw on June 25th, 2007 8:52 pm

    People who want to put Niehaus out to pasture should be forced to watch the 3 hour documentary “Rick Rizzs Presents Willie Bloomquist: The Scrappy Life Of A Mariner Hero” with the help of the Ludovico Technique.

  149. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:52 pm

    Red Sox announcers are shocked that there’s no one warming up in the pen. So am I. WTF?

  150. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 8:53 pm

    145: He’s a red sox fan.

  151. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 8:53 pm

    Time for some redemption Jose after that earlier defense!

  152. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 8:53 pm

    142, two outs? wha…?

  153. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:53 pm

    Lopez has a chance for redemption… At least hit a fly ball Jose.

  154. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:53 pm

    Tavarez’s picture is in the dictionary next to “erratic”

  155. joser on June 25th, 2007 8:54 pm

    Jose should take a HBP here just to make up for his fielding tonight.

  156. dw on June 25th, 2007 8:54 pm

    And as for Niehaus miscalling the Ortiz flyout, I thought it was out. It sure sounded like he got all the sweet spot on it.

  157. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 8:54 pm

    Tavarez looks like a cross between Mateo and Walter Matthau

  158. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 8:55 pm

    152, I was saying that with no out and a guy on third, you should be able to score him without resorting to a suicide squeeze.

  159. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:55 pm

    In the AIR JOSE!

  160. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 8:56 pm

    #154, It would be even more fitting if they used his Yahoo profile pic.

  161. joser on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Way to work the count, Lopez. That’s a great at-bat.

    If there was no one warming up, who’s coming in?

  162. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Told ya this guy wasn’t Cy Young

  163. UofMichgoMs on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    J…. LO!

  164. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Lopez!!!

  165. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    In the air, in the air, noooooooooo, YESSS!!!!!!!!!

  166. theraven on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Look at Willie sliding home! I’m sorry, but he’s probably one of my top 3 players on the M’s right now.

  167. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Sure glad Varitek and Tavarez conferred on that one. Let’s listen in!
    “How bout you throw him a gently lilting piece of crap?”
    “The one everyone hits?”
    “That’s the one.”

  168. DanO on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Tavarez always makes the funniest faces when things aren’t going well for him.

  169. thowe1 on June 25th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Nice shot, I think a couple of RBIs can make up for some fielding miscues… I’ll take it!!!

  170. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 8:58 pm

    Weaver has a positive WPA tonight through 5.

  171. Alex on June 25th, 2007 8:58 pm

    I guarantee a DP right now.

  172. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 8:58 pm

    158, sorry i projected a “two” where you had “no”…*shakes head*…time to put the glasses back on…i even re-read it!

  173. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 8:58 pm

    Wow…VIDRO bunt…. OH MY. Who are these Mariners?

  174. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 8:58 pm

    Gee, I wonder what’s about to happen?

  175. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:59 pm

    Please, Francona, the moment the reliever you waited to long to start warming up is ready, bring him into the game.

  176. Alex on June 25th, 2007 8:59 pm

    I mean a bunt. (Wow, Hargrove. I think you’re smart.)

  177. joser on June 25th, 2007 8:59 pm

    How many other teams have their DH bunt in that situation? Seriously?

  178. James T on June 25th, 2007 8:59 pm

    Jerry Remy was just *killing* Vidro for bunting there.

  179. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 8:59 pm

    okay, that wasn’t as painful as it could’ve been

  180. Pete on June 25th, 2007 8:59 pm

    Holy crap. Horrible bunt. Just horrible.

  181. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:00 pm

    #177 Not just their DH, but also their #3 hitter!

  182. DAMellen on June 25th, 2007 9:00 pm

    D…D…Dream Weaver?

  183. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:01 pm

    Apparently Francona thinks the Sox are still playing interleague and doesn’t want to make a double switch. Tavarez looked bad against Sexson. Bring in Snyder for god’s sake!

  184. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 9:01 pm

    177: I was thinking about that last night when Vidro bunted.

    OK, let’s see, you got your DH batting third, so when there are runners on you have him bunt to stay out of the double play.

    It actually makes sense, in an addled sort of way, if you first buy into actually having Vidro in the lineup and then secondly batting him third. Once you get past that stupidity, the bunts make sense.

  185. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:01 pm

    Hilarious

  186. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Nice!

  187. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Richie scorches another one! A hit is a hit I guess.

  188. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Bases loaded for Ben Broussard … I love the sound of that!

  189. Teej on June 25th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Richie crushed that one.

  190. oh poker on June 25th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Wow, two excellent call from that third place ump.

  191. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Great slide into 3rd too.

  192. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 9:04 pm

    Umm…you mean a fielder’s choice. But…yeah, it works.

  193. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:04 pm

    Holy crap now they’re doing cover versions of that Mellencamp song to play in other commercials? Because we weren’t hearing it enough just during the Chevy commercials??

  194. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:05 pm

    wow 0-2 count and Sexson still manages to avoid a K with a single. Welcome back Richie we’ve only been waiting for like what half a season?

  195. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:05 pm

    192, he was given a hit.

  196. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Of course, if Francona had just bothered to say that Tavarez had rolled his ankle and was injured, he could have brought Snyder in at any time before this. But that would’ve been too assertive.

  197. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 9:05 pm

    There have been 7 batters this inning.

    Only one of those plate appearences resulted in the Mariners probability of winning decreasing.

    Guess which one?

    Hint: it is the one that would have decreased the probability of winning even IF the intended play had succeeded.

  198. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Ahh no out. yeah. Good call too.

  199. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:06 pm

    Fielder’s choice? No one got out and no error.

  200. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:06 pm

    OOOOH Benny ALMOST had that one. Rawr.

  201. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 9:07 pm

    The home plate ump’s called one of the best games I’ve seen this season.

  202. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Broussard did a lot better with the bases loaded against Beckett when he knew what was coming last year.

  203. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:08 pm

    #201. You jinxed him. He gave Snyder a bad one just to show you, apparently.

  204. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Pretty good relief pitching. First pitch changeup at 68 MPH for a strike on Broussard. Then a breaking ball strike to start Johjima. Tough to get any timing against that.

  205. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 9:11 pm

    Great AB, Kenji-kun.

  206. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:11 pm

    Happy to retract that claim about good relief pitching

  207. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:11 pm

    Way to earn that RBI Johji. Close pitches too.

  208. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 9:11 pm

    YO ADRIAN… CLEAR THE HOUSE!

  209. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 9:11 pm

    i hate the “man card” concept, and the idea of it being revoked for doing something that could be described as effeminate or by somehow emasculating yourself. i bring it up here only because i wish we were bestowed with mariner fan cards that worked in the same fashion–just so we could revoke it for comments like 166…unless you’re being facetious? please?

  210. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:12 pm

    Is anybody worried what the extended inning will do to Weaver’s groove?

  211. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:12 pm

    Weaver going with the Robert Plant circa 1973 look.

  212. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:12 pm

    Of course, if Francona had just bothered to say that Tavarez had rolled his ankle and was injured, he could have brought Snyder in at any time before this.

    Judging from the results so far, it wouldn’t have mattered.

  213. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 9:12 pm

    I like this Snyder guy.

  214. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Weaver going with the Robert Plant circa 1973 look.

    He’s stuffing his crotch with a rolled up sock?

  215. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Beltre…plate discipline…egads…

  216. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Snyder!

  217. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Great. Snyder decides that pitching effectively has been boring. Let’s try this incompetence for a while.

  218. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:14 pm

    Good pod people have taken over the Mariners at the plate. They are taking pitches.

  219. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:14 pm

    #209 Darn, I was hoping that #166 wasn’t me. Umm, I guess I always like to root for the underdog, and Willie is a scrappy little player. As others have said, he’s a great guy to have on the team for his versatility, although his usage can be argued.

  220. IMissBenDavis on June 25th, 2007 9:14 pm

    A downright Mariner-like meltdown on the mound from Boston!

  221. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 9:14 pm

    Something really strange is in the air. Weaver pitching well. Papi and Manny doing horrible. Mariners laying down good bunts. And…to top it off WALKING in runs! And for the ICING… Willie gets an RBI hit to give the M’s the lead.

  222. Teej on June 25th, 2007 9:14 pm

    This is the most un-Mariner-like inning I’ve seen in a while.

  223. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 9:14 pm

    after the first pitch to him, ball one, Betancourt looked down to third and shook his head yes. That had to be a take sign.

  224. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:14 pm

    What will this be, Yuni’s second walk all year? :P

  225. UofMichgoMs on June 25th, 2007 9:15 pm

    Bullpen action anyone? Weaver has got to be cold. If Hargrove puts him back in he is a bigger idiot than I thought

  226. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:15 pm

    As long as the M’s keep scoring runs, less-crazy weaver can do keg stands for all I care.

  227. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:15 pm

    Are these guys for real? They’re actually using some plate discipline tonight?

  228. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:15 pm

    Hey Julian! If you’re hurt . . get out of the frigging game next time. Personal valor at the team’s expense is not a good tradeoff.

  229. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 9:15 pm

    This is 97.8% as fun as watching the Yankees bullpen have a meltdown. You can spell this M’s Win with several W’s.

  230. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 9:15 pm

    I take it back. 2-0 groundout, at least Betancourt is behaving normally tonight.

  231. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 9:16 pm

    Yuni should’ve been taking all the way. Oh well.

  232. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:16 pm

    #230 Normally? Does he have an error yet?

  233. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:16 pm

    Now if the M’s score another 6 without giving up any more, I’ll feel comfortable. Otherwise, disaster is just one Pappi grand slam away….

  234. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:17 pm

    OK get somebody up.

  235. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 9:18 pm

    That was a Fenway single.

  236. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Fear the Bloom-Cannon

  237. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Whoever predicted the fries turning into a tradition may have been right…

  238. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Holy laser beam Boom Boom…

  239. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Weaver at 96 pitches. And lead ass Lowell only gets a single.

    That was a very bad sign for Weaver. Perhaps Lowell’s first hard hit ball in a week.

  240. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Uh oh

  241. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 9:19 pm

    Bring in Sean Green

  242. Teej on June 25th, 2007 9:19 pm

    There should be a rule that if you live in Seattle and can’t spell Ivar’s correctly, you don’t get to have any free fries.

  243. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 9:19 pm

    Sweat it out Jeff, sweat it out…you can do this…

  244. UofMichgoMs on June 25th, 2007 9:19 pm

    Get Weaver off the mound NOW!

  245. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:19 pm

    That pine time definitely screwed up Weave’s mojo

  246. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:20 pm

    5 runs on 6 hits, you gotta love efficiency.

  247. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:20 pm

    Normally? Does he have an error yet?

    The other half of the double play double mint twins is covering for him today.

  248. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:20 pm

    Great at bat, Crisp. A nothing fastball down the middle and you pop it up. Sigh. Serenity now.

  249. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:20 pm

    What was the girl who delivered the fries doing with the microphone? Please don’t put these people on TV

  250. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:21 pm

    whoops, I meant 6 runs on 6 hits

  251. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 9:21 pm

    237: I predicted the fries tradition yesterday (hoping the gig didn’t have legs) but I was at the restroom till now … did they really pull another stunt with fries? Gawd, I hope not.

  252. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Nice pitch Weavester

  253. TomC on June 25th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Lugo is hitting sub ,\.100 for June. Let’s see what Weaver does with him.

  254. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:22 pm

    Excellent game for Weaver

  255. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 9:22 pm

    Big Ben has been doing OK out there, but it is something of an adventure. I’ve seen him take a few steps the wrong way a couple of times, including on that last fly out.

  256. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 9:22 pm

    Or OFlaherty.

  257. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:22 pm

    Get Weaver some fries!

  258. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Lugo should take the hint. Weaver had nothing left but the M’s didn’t mind him staying in to face him.

  259. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Man, the graph for that Cubs game is absolutely nuts.

  260. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Weaver did a nice job mixing it up tonight. Let’s hope he keeps it rolling.

  261. Tony Fossas on June 25th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Hi guys – just joined this site – been lurking for a while.

    Pretty good outing for Weaver I thought. Hope he ends up with the “W”.

  262. Paul B on June 25th, 2007 9:23 pm

    251, yes, yes they did.

    There were two different groups with signs tonight, so they picked one over the other.

  263. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:24 pm

    #251 Yep, more fries were delivered. I bet it keeps going until the M’s lose again. Or it could turn into a secret weapon like the rally monkey the year the Angels won the World Series.

  264. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:25 pm

    By the way, Angels are down 5-3 in the 9th.

  265. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 9:25 pm

    242, hear hear! if seattle=western washington that is…

  266. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:26 pm

    What they’re not telling anybody is that they’re Blowers’ special “Funk Blast” fries.

    “Oh, they’re Belgian style! With mayo!”
    “Uh, yeah…. that’s not mayo”

  267. felixrox on June 25th, 2007 9:27 pm

    #259

    Where do you find those graphs?

  268. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 9:27 pm

    251. what’s the matter fish, you don’t like to see people have fun. are you always this serious ? or maybe you want blowers to deliver fish and no chips.

  269. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:28 pm

    They should just make them watch/listen to one of the Ivar’s commercials where the man sings his “acres of clams” over and over until they beg to be kept clam.

  270. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:28 pm
  271. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 9:28 pm

    I was disappointed with the last Ivar’s© Groundersâ„¢ garlic fries I bought at the Safe. I had about 20-25% less than usual. But it was really busy so I didn’t bother complaining.

  272. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:28 pm
  273. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 9:29 pm

    Just an aside: Lincecum goes 7 shutout innings, leaves with a 2-0 lead, Cammy hits a 3-run blast of the new guy next inning…

  274. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:29 pm

    In 15+ innings, Weaver has given up one, count them, one earned runs.

  275. doorbot on June 25th, 2007 9:29 pm

    266,

    …ergh…you’ve just ruined tartar sauce for me…

  276. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:30 pm

    I’m not so sure about bringing Snyder out here again. The bullpen’s pretty rested. He didn’t look so hot and they’ve got a day off Thursday.

  277. DAMellen on June 25th, 2007 9:30 pm

    So he leaves without even a quality start, but it really wasn’t a bad game for Jeff. Really, 5.2 with 1 ER and 8 baserunners is a lot more than I was expecting.

  278. Beniitec on June 25th, 2007 9:30 pm

    HOLY Smokes…he’s up to .263!

  279. Teej on June 25th, 2007 9:30 pm

    265: Of course. I’m a Vashonite, so yes, the rule would apply to all west of the mountains.

  280. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Don’t look now but Weaver has a sub-8.00 ERA.

  281. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Dotel just walked the first batter and now Vlad is at the plate.

  282. Tak on June 25th, 2007 9:31 pm

    Come on Royals… don’t let them catch up…

  283. Teej on June 25th, 2007 9:31 pm

    “Just an aside: Lincecum goes 7 shutout innings, leaves with a 2-0 lead, Cammy hits a 3-run blast of the new guy next inning…”

    Please don’t remind me. I just got done smashing my face into a table. I love Lincecum, but the Giants bullpen is useless.

  284. PhilKenSebben on June 25th, 2007 9:31 pm

    Sims said the first night that fries were a new tradition

  285. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:32 pm

    Getting Bloomquist out doesn’t prove me wrong.

  286. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:32 pm

    That pitch was high.

  287. felixrox on June 25th, 2007 9:32 pm

    Don’t look now but Weaver is the pitcher of decision.

  288. Phoenician Todd on June 25th, 2007 9:33 pm

    I hate the cameraman.

  289. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:33 pm

    Lousy camera work!

  290. cgmonk on June 25th, 2007 9:33 pm

    Vidro’s home run that wasn’t, the camera didn’t even pan down to show the catch.

  291. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 9:34 pm

    what the fuck was that?

  292. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 9:34 pm

    That FSNW cameraman is a tease. That was the HR shot – whoops, he caught it 12 feet short of the wall!

  293. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:34 pm

    Um, I still don’t think I’ve been proven wrong. See? Liner by Lopez for a hit.

  294. kenshabby on June 25th, 2007 9:35 pm

    C’mon, Vidro, work some of that ’00 magic.

  295. Tak on June 25th, 2007 9:35 pm

    Its incredible how good Ichiro is. He’s 0-3 and people start to wonder if he is going into a slump :P

  296. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:35 pm

    Is Turbo destined to be the $10 million pinch hitter next year?

  297. theraven on June 25th, 2007 9:35 pm

    The Royals beat the Angels.

  298. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:35 pm

    Has Vidro been batting third all year?
    How do you bat third behind Suzuki and hit .294 and only have 22 rbi in nearly half a season? Hurt?

  299. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:35 pm

    I said after his complete game: if in his next three starts Weaver can go 6 innings while giving up no more than 3 ER in each game, I’ll consider it real.

    And I’m willing to grant him this one, even if he didn’t quite make 6IP.

  300. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:36 pm

    I wonder what the master strategist Hargrove has up his sleeve right now.

  301. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:36 pm

    How funny would that be if the Angel’s lost a series to the Royals. I’ll answer that: very funny.

  302. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:36 pm

    What an ungainly slide!

  303. jamest on June 25th, 2007 9:37 pm

    Did they called that crappy curve a strike?

  304. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:37 pm

    We’re in the NL west Mr. Sims? I didn’t know that.

  305. Tony Fossas on June 25th, 2007 9:37 pm

    Am I the only one that thinks that “the wave” should not ever occur in a baseball stadium?

  306. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:38 pm

    #305. No. You’re not the only one.

  307. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:38 pm

    Octavio Dotel is my favorite player

  308. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:38 pm

    Believe it or not, Vidro has mostly been hitting 2nd. He was hitting into dps so often Ichiro started stealing like crazy just to stay out of them. Sure, Vidro is hitting around .300, but almost all of them are singles (a surprising number of them infield singles, which seems impossible given how slowly he runs). Take a look at his XBH and OPS. That’s why he has no RBIs.

  309. gomer_kyle on June 25th, 2007 9:39 pm

    “The Wave” is so 1980′s.

  310. Tak on June 25th, 2007 9:39 pm

    #298

    Slugging .284 with RISP, that’s how. (compared to Ichiro’s .545)

  311. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:40 pm

    Its incredible how good Ichiro is. He’s 0-3 and people start to wonder if he is going into a slump

    Heck, sometimes he only gets one hit in a game and I worry there’s something wrong.

  312. Tony Fossas on June 25th, 2007 9:41 pm

    Nice grab by Yuni

  313. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:41 pm

    Some days things just aren’t going to go your way.

  314. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 9:42 pm

    ahh, the wave…I remember when I was like 8, we went to the Kingdome and it went around like 12 times. I counted.

  315. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:43 pm

    Holy crap. “Slugging” .284? That’s horrendous.

  316. fishiam on June 25th, 2007 9:44 pm

    268: I would prefer not to have to watch a french fries delivery made-up scene every night for the next several days. If that’s your cup of tea … fine. I imagine you watch and enjoy (and support) the video hydro races, clap on queue with the obnoxious stadium audio and do the wave when it arrives at your section. More power to you (and less to me). Personally, I love excitement at the ballpark …. just not the scripted kind.

  317. UofMichgoMs on June 25th, 2007 9:44 pm

    The wave is awesome. At the football games here it does super slo-mo, ultra speed, turn around, and even splits. How can you not like the wave?

  318. gomer_kyle on June 25th, 2007 9:45 pm

    cup check!

  319. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 9:45 pm

    haha Sims is reading old stats.

  320. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:46 pm

    Our guy Orsillo reads old, new, but mostly irrelevant stats.

  321. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:46 pm

    gotta love that

  322. joser on June 25th, 2007 9:47 pm

    With regard to the wave, we’re just a little jaded. After 30 years, you would be too. Anyway, it was invented for football, and that’s where it belongs.

  323. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 9:48 pm

    i always like to upset the huskies by giving proper credit to the edmonton oilers fans for creating the wave, they did a good 10 months before the husky clowns started the tradition. that being said, i agree with all that don’t like it.

  324. gomer_kyle on June 25th, 2007 9:48 pm

    I will take Sims’s reading old stats vs. Ron Fairly talking about facing unimportant pitchers from the 30′s anyday.

  325. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2007 9:49 pm

    Hell to the yes!

    I bowled over my average each game, the Mariners are somehow leading the Red Sox, and, once more, I did not have to use my AK.

    Good day.

  326. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:49 pm

    When the Red Sox played in Arizona he spent three days reciting in childlike amazement the stat that AZ’s closer had converted 21 out of 24 save opportunities. The fact that closers convert something like 85% of save chances and Valverde was at 87.5% was unknown to him.

    Oh god. Timlin. He’s not been good this year.

  327. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 9:51 pm

    oakland a’s fans will also they did the wave before the huskies. so we can blame them for starting it in baseball. you’re right joser, keep it in football.

  328. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 9:51 pm

    TIMMAY! Another four pitch walk by the Bosox crew. Lovin it.

  329. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:51 pm

    325: I’m sure Mr. Cube would be proud of all your daily accomplishments.

  330. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 9:51 pm

    308. Actually he has 22 RBIs.

  331. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:52 pm

    Funny, Timlin didn’t think it was the ball and throw it to second.

  332. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:53 pm

    FUNK BLAST!!!

  333. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:53 pm

    I gotta say, I’m liking our chances here

  334. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Johjima!

  335. planB on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    SUGOI ZAPATSU!

  336. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    Really liking our chances

  337. IMissBenDavis on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    BACK TO BACK BABY!!!!

  338. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    This may sound cruel but seeing as the Sox are already losing, this is not a bad time for Timlin to get his ass kicked to show Francona that his pet simply does not have it any more.

  339. David* on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    BACK TO BACK FUNK!

  340. UofMichgoMs on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    Good thing we brought in the pinch runner

  341. gomer_kyle on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    Wow, back to back. I don’t miss Timlin on our roster one bit.

  342. msb on June 25th, 2007 9:54 pm

    jeez, guys, save some of those runs

  343. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 9:55 pm

    Good stuff!

  344. Phoenician Todd on June 25th, 2007 9:55 pm

    Go us!

  345. planB on June 25th, 2007 9:55 pm

    340: Ellison was going to replace Broussard anyway. Would be dumb to have Ben run and then switch in the top of the 8th.

  346. Phoenician Todd on June 25th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Hey, at least Ichi will get another at bat now

  347. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Okay when they played that song for Kenji’s HR I got angry and thought, c’mon, they can do better than that, but then starting it up again for Adrian’s HR was somehow hilarious.

  348. gomer_kyle on June 25th, 2007 9:56 pm

    342- No kidding. I’m going to tomorrow nights game with a dipshit Boston fan. I don’t wanna listen to him all night.

  349. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:57 pm

    #341. Timlin was good in 2003, 2004 and less so in 2005. In 2006 he started to fall apart but he’s definitely one of Francona’s favorites. He just doesn’t have it any more. A hit by Bloomquist would prove it conclusively. And does.

  350. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 9:58 pm

    Just when I thought Kenji was in a slump he goes and hits a blast. He’s been my favorite Mariner ever since he got bulldozed at the plate last year but held onto the ball.

  351. UofMichgoMs on June 25th, 2007 9:58 pm

    345-That tends to be Hargrove’s MO. I just always find it funny when a pinch runner is brought in and then gets blasted in on a homer

  352. Whaler on June 25th, 2007 9:58 pm

    Nice for Timlin to come in to give the M’s a little extra BP. They’re trying to get him to 1000 games, but he’s cooked.

  353. James T on June 25th, 2007 9:58 pm

    Remy on NESN now speculating that Timlin’s not healthy. What a great thing for pitchers to play gung ho and hurt the team.

  354. zvazda on June 25th, 2007 10:01 pm

    Hey James T – Is there a website this awesome for Red Sox fans?

  355. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 10:01 pm

    hey fish, you just described several scripted things that i don’t like. but i don’t see how blowers’ fries are scripted. did he call those people and ask them to bring a sign ? so what if he wants to interact with the crowd. loosen up a little.

  356. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:02 pm

    I hope they get Timlin out of there soon….so he’s available for the next few games :D

  357. James T on June 25th, 2007 10:02 pm

    #352. Yup. I think the 1000 appearances thing is definitely part of it. Timlin’s apparently a really nice guy and great teammate but exemplifies the danger of such guys at the end of their career. They get way more chances to suck than nasty unfriendly guys.

  358. James T on June 25th, 2007 10:02 pm

    #354. Yes, a better one. IMO.

  359. felixrox on June 25th, 2007 10:03 pm

    I’m thinking it’s a good time to throw Morrow in some garbage time.

  360. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 10:03 pm

    That was a horrible bit from Grover. “We may not get them out…” “No one looks forward to playing them…” Not even the yanks huh?

  361. James T on June 25th, 2007 10:04 pm

    #356. I would, too, if I were a Mariners fan. He was throwing 88 with no movement and when he was good he threw 91-92 mostly good moving 2 seamers. He’s toast.

  362. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:04 pm

    I got a higher score on the SAT than Mike Lowell.

  363. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:05 pm

    For God sakes, we have a 7 run lead. The the ball over the plate.

  364. James T on June 25th, 2007 10:05 pm

    How do you know?

  365. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:05 pm

    GEORGE! I can’t wait for George time.

  366. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 10:05 pm

    Timlin is my favorite player

  367. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:06 pm

    364, because they just showed it on the screen here…

  368. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:06 pm

    #360 — hey, they asked Hargrove for some ManagerSpeak TM and they got it.

    personally, I’d rather get free fries than, say, have Bert Blyleven “circle me” on the video monitor.

  369. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 10:07 pm

    #358 James T., You sure your answer is not a little biased? I mean don’t you wanna hang out a little longer before you come to that conclusion?

  370. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:08 pm

    Let George do it.

  371. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:08 pm

    Anything new on Mark Lowe’s rehab?

  372. joser on June 25th, 2007 10:08 pm

    And all over New England, people up past their bedtimes are turning off their TVs in disgust.

  373. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:09 pm

    oh, there’s Sean Green.

    I wondered where he’d gotten to.

  374. James T on June 25th, 2007 10:09 pm

    #369. I think I’ve been a member at this site a couple years. I like it. But not as much as another one.

  375. IMissBenDavis on June 25th, 2007 10:09 pm

    Get him out Grover. Thank you!

  376. matthew on June 25th, 2007 10:10 pm
  377. dw on June 25th, 2007 10:12 pm

    i always like to upset the huskies by giving proper credit to the edmonton oilers fans for creating the wave, they did a good 10 months before the husky clowns started the tradition.

    AndI always like to upset both groups by noting the first recorded wave was in Oakland in October 1981.

  378. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:12 pm

    the NewsTribune had an update on sunday; he’s scheduled for simulated games wed & sunday …

  379. pumpkinhead on June 25th, 2007 10:13 pm

    I need more cowbell! I’ve got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.

  380. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2007 10:13 pm

    That was an awesome collection of Mike Lowell trivia. I got higher than him on the SAT too. But, uh, I never did succeed at becoming a professional athlete, come to think of it.

  381. James T on June 25th, 2007 10:13 pm

    Of all the things to escape a black hole!!

  382. James T on June 25th, 2007 10:13 pm

    Too late

  383. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:14 pm

    George!!!!!!

  384. _David_ on June 25th, 2007 10:15 pm

    At least Hargrove is saving Sherill for when he’s really needed.

  385. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 10:15 pm

    msb, check #327, i’m with you on that one. some kind of dispute about edmonton, they probably didn’t have tv cameras in early 80′s in edmonton. i heard they just got the internet last month.

  386. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:15 pm

    That was an awesome collection of Mike Lowell trivia. I got higher than him on the SAT too.

    you know, I have absolutely no idea what my SATs were.

    I didn’t even become an unprofessional athlete.

  387. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2007 10:15 pm

    Speaking of the SAT, I recently sat next to a high-school junior on a plane who was telling me that she was concerned about getting into UW because she’d only gotten 1500 on her SAT’s.

    She had to tell me that it’s out of 2400 now.

  388. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:16 pm

    378, thanks for the link. Watching Green do his best Morrow impression reminded me how much I miss Lowe.

  389. joser on June 25th, 2007 10:16 pm

    I missed it — what was his SAT score? (of course they’ve messed with the thing so badly over the years that unless you’re comparing scores from roughly the same half-decade it’s meaningless).

  390. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:17 pm

    #385. I haven’t weighed in on the wave.

    I do hate it, though, esp. when drunken 20 year olds attempt to start it as the Mariners are pitching.

  391. joser on June 25th, 2007 10:17 pm

    they probably didn’t have tv cameras in early 80’s in edmonton. i heard they just got the internet last month.

    It was tough getting the wiring to not melt the igloos.

  392. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:19 pm

    GIDP! Oh, wait.

  393. Teej on June 25th, 2007 10:19 pm

    387: I hear you. The keep screwing with us. I went to my girlfriend’s little brother’s high school graduation the a few weeks ago, and they announced all the kids who graduated with GPA above 4.0.

    Where I come from, you can’t do better than straight A’s. California is ridiculous.

  394. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2007 10:19 pm

    Timlin got 1210; I got 1490 (permit me this bragging as I’m sure someone will soon weigh in and outdo me).

  395. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 10:21 pm

    I wonder if the development of the Wave was sort of like the development of calculus. Despite the debate, there is really no reason to doubt that Newton and Leibnitz developed it independently to answer the kind of questions being asked at the end of the seventeenth century. Perhaps the Wave represents the same sort of socio-cultural responce to social ferment? Or, maybe not …

  396. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:21 pm

    did tomorrow’s starting pitcher pitch in relief in the 1st series against the Sox? Kason Gabbard sounds oddly familiar …

  397. DizzleChizzle on June 25th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Hey James T, I don’t follow Red Sox for obvious reasons other than the daily boxscores, but is Pena happy with his role in Beantown?

  398. beckya57 on June 25th, 2007 10:22 pm

    Hey, I want to know Lowell’s SAT score too! (Mine was pretty good.) I guess Dave doesn’t have to prepare for the end of the world, but Weaver actually has looked decent lately; I’m still not convinced it means anything though, since Weaver’s had flashes of brilliance combined with lengthy stretches of mediocrity-to-awfulness his whole career.

  399. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:22 pm

    Lowell (not Timlin) got a 1210 on his SATs.

  400. j_zog on June 25th, 2007 10:23 pm

    Is this ballclub for real?

  401. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:23 pm

    Timlin got 1210; I got 1490 (permit me this bragging as I’m sure someone will soon weigh in and outdo me)

    hmm. wonder just where I would have put the SAT results, all those centuries ago?

  402. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:23 pm

    I am a little worried about Ryan Rowland-Smith pitching the 9th. If he has a Sean Green moment, we have to burn another arm.

  403. j_zog on June 25th, 2007 10:24 pm

    Why are we still debating SAT scores?

  404. dw on June 25th, 2007 10:24 pm

    I got 1490

    I didn’t.

    But I took it 18 years ago, and in the 18 years since, what I made on the SAT has been completely irrelevant to my life.

  405. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 10:25 pm

    agingfan, i prefer “the wave” in no. arizona/so. utah just outside the entrance to buckskin gulch.

  406. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:25 pm

    well, lord knows he can’t have as much adreneline running through him tonight …

  407. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 10:26 pm

    We’re watching a lengend here in this Rowland-Smith cahracter; the only placyer in Major League Baseball history with a dash in his name. Expect great things this inning!

  408. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:26 pm

    I’m sorry I brought it up.

  409. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2007 10:27 pm

    Dammit dw, someone was really supposed to chime in with a higher score so that my feeble attempt to shore up my self-worth would be ignored in favor of theirs.

    Yeah, sorry, Lowell not Timlin.

  410. j_zog on June 25th, 2007 10:27 pm

    IS Pedroia 12 years old.

  411. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:28 pm

    #407– good thing he’s a big lad– his name wouldn’t fit on Pedroia’s jersey …

  412. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:30 pm

    I looked older than Pedroia when I was a toddler.

  413. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:30 pm

    Dave: since the M’s called Rowland-Smith up, does that automatically entitle him to a spot on the Future Forty? Since he was absent before, what would his reward grade be?

  414. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 10:30 pm

    #405
    Never been there but I looked up some pictures just now and it (they?) is damned impressive

  415. joser on June 25th, 2007 10:30 pm

    It’s a great name. You expect him to jump out of a Spitfire in some jodhpurs, calling for a gin pahit and a round of croquet.

  416. Teej on June 25th, 2007 10:31 pm

    I could have used a garbage-time homer from Ortiz for my fantasy team, but that curve was beautiful. Nice job, hyphenated-name guy.

  417. j_zog on June 25th, 2007 10:31 pm

    Kenji is a better athlete than we give him credit for.

  418. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:32 pm

    Youkillis has a ridiculous batting stance.

  419. j_zog on June 25th, 2007 10:32 pm

    YOukalis’s goatee is bigger than Pedroia

  420. beckya57 on June 25th, 2007 10:33 pm

    Gee, Lauren, I only got a 1400 (old system) on my SATs. I guess female baseball fans are smart. ;-) There is a tradition of intellectual types liking baseball, see e.g. Roger Angell and George Will. I guess #395 belongs there too, given his flights of fancy about calculus and the Wave (a juxastaposition that would never have occurred to me). Back to the game; I guess Dave can keep blogging, secure that the world isn’t going to end. Weaver has looked decent lately, but this fits in with his career pattern (there is a reason the guy is still in the majors), so I wouldn’t get too excited.

  421. JR Ewing on June 25th, 2007 10:33 pm

    both can be found from same trail head, but you gotta have the super secret gps coords to find the wave, or the hard to get map from the blm office.

  422. joser on June 25th, 2007 10:34 pm

    I’d be worried Ortiz might get on the bus and sit on Pedroia without noticing.

  423. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2007 10:34 pm

    That pitch was NICE.

  424. dw on June 25th, 2007 10:34 pm

    Well, Lauren, I’m just saying that some of us did poorly enough on the SAT that we don’t like being reminded that people scored a lot higher.

    Even if some of us made up for it by qualifying for Mensa.

  425. apunetid on June 25th, 2007 10:34 pm

    M’s win!

  426. Rick L on June 25th, 2007 10:35 pm

    Three strike outs. That curve is pretty damn good.

  427. David* on June 25th, 2007 10:35 pm

    I love it when the Red Sox lose. I love it even more when the M’s make them do the losing!

  428. felixrox on June 25th, 2007 10:35 pm

    That was a sick curve.

  429. Alai on June 25th, 2007 10:37 pm

    Rowland-Smith… is he 24 years old?

  430. awolfgang on June 25th, 2007 10:37 pm

    Damn, is she going to pop or what?

  431. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 10:38 pm

    In honor of Rowland-Smith I think I will go chew on some Yardley soap

  432. dw on June 25th, 2007 10:38 pm

    if Mariners.win = true {
    document.write “THE MARINERS WIN! THEY ARE A TEAM OF DESTINY!”;
    }
    else {
    document.write “The season is over. Trade Ichiro. Fire everyone. Why am I even a fan.”;
    }

  433. D Truth on June 25th, 2007 10:39 pm

    “Woo ooo Dream Weaver. I believe you can get through the naaaheight.”

  434. Gerald on June 25th, 2007 10:40 pm

    It’s pretty much a perfect day in my mind when the M’s win and the Red Sox, Angels and A’s lose.

  435. awolfgang on June 25th, 2007 10:40 pm

    Angie is so hot.

  436. dw on June 25th, 2007 10:40 pm

    In honor of Rowland-Smith I think I will go chew on some Yardley soap

    I think Met Market and Whole Paycheck carry Vegemite.

    Except Yardley Soap is more appetizing.

  437. awolfgang on June 25th, 2007 10:41 pm

    I’m drunk

  438. joser on June 25th, 2007 10:42 pm

    Angie is huge. And you’re definitely drunk.

  439. beckya57 on June 25th, 2007 10:43 pm

    Stay away from the Vegemite, #436. Voice of experience….

  440. felixrox on June 25th, 2007 10:43 pm

    434: Don’t forget the Yanks lost too…..This is too sweet.

  441. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:43 pm

    It’s a great name. You expect him to jump out of a Spitfire in some jodhpurs, calling for a gin pahit and a round of croquet.

    “Top-hole. Bally Jerry, pranged his kite right in the how’s-your-father; hairy blighter, dicky-birded, feathered back on his sammy, took a waspy, flipped over on his Betty Harpers and caught his can in the Bertie.”

  442. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2007 10:46 pm

    I heart msb.

  443. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:46 pm

    I saw Angie out from behind the desk for the first time on friday, and she is either a) carrying very low, b) due tomorrow, or c) both.

  444. geofftoons on June 25th, 2007 10:47 pm

    Where did Rowland-Smith even come from? I don’t recall even seeing him come through the minors, it’s like he appeared from nowhere, then was on the roster. Did I miss something?

  445. agingfan on June 25th, 2007 10:49 pm

    MSB: Somewhere Ronald Colman is wondering why he NEVER got dialogue that good.

  446. msb on June 25th, 2007 10:50 pm

    “Rowland-Smith was originally signed as a non-drafted free agent on Nov. 19, 2000. The Mariners lost him briefly before the 2005 season as the Twins selected him in the Rule 5 Draft. But he was returned at the end of Spring Training that year.”

  447. dw on June 25th, 2007 10:52 pm

    Cracking, msb. You really batted for six there. Carry on.

  448. geofftoons on June 25th, 2007 10:52 pm

    Thanks msb, I appreciate the info.

  449. msb on June 25th, 2007 11:01 pm

    Authentic RAF banter courtesy of Python (personally, I suspect Jones & Palin) The same show featured a swell Neil Innes rendition of “When does a dream begin”, sung after the war has reached the sentimental stage…

    —————

    “Banter’s not the same if you say it slower, Squiffy.”

  450. Tak on June 25th, 2007 11:20 pm

    For the first time, M’s playoff odds > O’s playoff odds (according to coolstandings)

  451. colm on June 26th, 2007 12:36 am

    wtf? Like the Orioles ever stood a chance.

  452. colm on June 26th, 2007 12:39 am

    Some thoughts:
    Weaver pitched at least as well as any sentient being should have expected.
    Jesus, Jose, could you play some defence?
    Angie M is beautiful.
    Angie M looks as though she is about to give birth to a Humvee.
    Lauren, you keep a Kalishnikov at home? I thought I left that sh*t behind in Belfast.

  453. Tak on June 26th, 2007 1:01 am

    oops, I meant A’s, sorry…

  454. Ralph Malph on June 26th, 2007 9:50 am

    M’s playoff odds > A’s playoff odds, on coolstandings. BP doesn’t agree.

  455. Evan on June 26th, 2007 10:01 am

    Thanks for the clarification, Tak. I couldn’t imagine how anyone had even bothered to check the O’s odds.

  456. DiamondDave on June 26th, 2007 12:31 pm

    Jeff Weaver, Cy Young candidate.

    What a difference 3 days makes. I attended the 16-1 pimp-slapping the Ms suffered on Friday to one of the weakest teams in baseball, then attended last night and saw the Ms thump the best team in baseball with arguably their worst pitcher on the mound. Isn’t this a funny game? You just can’t make this stuff up.

    Where are all the people that were calling for him to be DFAed just a few weeks ago?

    I know, the “experts” on here will all explain that he hasn’t changed and his fastball is still weak and the sample size is small, yada yada yada.

    But as hard as starting pitching is to find these days, and since we’re paying him $8 million whether he pitches for us or not, I’m glad he’s still around. Regardless, he’s probably gonna be a lock for the 5th spot for the rest of the year. And if pitches like he did last night, that’s a very good thing.

    Big If, though.

  457. colm on June 26th, 2007 12:55 pm

    The inverted commas seem a bit snide, dontcha think?

  458. eponymous coward on June 26th, 2007 1:36 pm

    I know, the “experts” on here will all explain that he hasn’t changed and his fastball is still weak and the sample size is small, yada yada yada.

    “Regression to the mean” says hi.

  459. colm on June 26th, 2007 1:49 pm

    Which for Weaver is a good thing. He couldn’t possibly be THAT awful all season. Regressing to the mean implies that he could pitch out the rest of the season with an ERA around 4.40 instead of 15+

    And as Dave wrote last week after the Pittsburg game Weaver is varying his pitches much more. When he was getting creamed he kept lobbing in 87mph 2 seamers without good sink – and the hitters feasted. If my memory is any use, he seemed to working well with a slider last night. He will suffice.

  460. Benno on June 26th, 2007 2:55 pm

    I’m one of those who were calling for Weaver to be DFA’ed not so long ago. I am still not convinced that he has turned the corner, as this is what he has given since his return from the DL (from my perspective);
    1 great start (Pitt)
    1 solid start (Bos)
    1 bad but lucky start (ChiC)
    1 start that can’t be graded (SD)
    I am thrilled that we have won 3 of his past 4 starts. I am hopeful that he has turned the corner and will give us 6 innings and

  461. Benno on June 26th, 2007 2:56 pm

    Let me finish what I was saying…
    I am hopeful that he has turned the corner and will give us 6 innings and less than 4 runs for the rest of the year. The best part of this would be that the team does not feel the need to break the bank trying to pick up another starter. But if he gets knocked around again, the questions will come back. But feel free criticize me, even though I am no “expert” by any stretch of the imagination.

  462. gwangung on June 26th, 2007 3:14 pm

    I know, the “experts” on here will all explain that he hasn’t changed and his fastball is still weak and the sample size is small, yada yada yada.

    But as hard as starting pitching is to find these days, and since we’re paying him $8 million whether he pitches for us or not, I’m glad he’s still around. Regardless, he’s probably gonna be a lock for the 5th spot for the rest of the year. And if pitches like he did last night, that’s a very good thing. Big If, though.

    Those two paragraphs are connected, you know.

  463. DiamondDave on June 29th, 2007 11:42 am

    I’m no expert either. I’m Just a baseball fan. I don’t spend time looking at sites that give actual percentage for a team to win DURING the game. And I don’t look at sites that peg the Ms playoff chances day by day. I’m too busy watching/listening to the games and reading this blog.

    DOn’t get me wrong, I love this blog. I bought Derek’s book. I learn something all the time. I’m just a smart-ass ;-) Don’t pay me any mind.

    While I admitting my ignorance, where can I find a handy llist for the all the acronyms used freely here. I know what WHIP is, I know what OPS is, but beyond that I’m generall sitting here going… “???”

    thanking you in advance.

    if anyone wants to mail me offline my address is dhirning@comcast.net.

    Go Ms,

    D.

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