Game 98, Mariners vs Rangers

Dave · July 24, 2007 at 5:20 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Washburn vs Loe, 5:30ish

Game two game thread.


377 Responses to “Game 98, Mariners vs Rangers”

  1. Grayfox on July 24th, 2007 8:32 pm

    Bring up jones and give richie some glasses, maybe he’s blind, cuz he swings like ray charles at a piniata party.

  2. jase411 on July 24th, 2007 8:34 pm

    I wonder if Reitsma could run the club, and Bavasi could be the 8th inning guy?? Could either of them possibly be worse than the other?

  3. The Unknown Comic on July 24th, 2007 8:35 pm


    I like Richie because he is from Washington.

  4. Teej on July 24th, 2007 8:37 pm

    347: Hear, hear!

    I don’t have blind faith in this team by any means, but the frantic nature of these comments is absurd. There’s a lot of season left, and the teams we’re chasing are losing games, too. You guys didn’t honestly think the Mariners would win every series from here on out, did you? Geez. I’m all for bringing up Jones and making the team better, but the sky isn’t falling because of a five-game losing streak.

  5. The Unknown Comic on July 24th, 2007 8:37 pm

    My supervisor at work told me Raul is a good outfielder. Said he takes good routes to the ball.

  6. Grayfox on July 24th, 2007 8:38 pm

    Are you sure your not Dave Sims or work for him?

  7. Lefebvre Belebvre on July 24th, 2007 8:38 pm

    The one concern I had over this recent run of success is what it meant for Bavasi’s future? Obviously he needs to go on so many levels. But does a team that has/had one of the 5 best records in baseball fire their GM?

    I have a feeling our ownership won’t rock the boat. A little too corporate.

    The way this team is going though they will stay relatively close all year and be eliminated from teh playoff race with one week to go. Is that success or failure in the eyes of ownership?

    Knowing how we feel for playing this bad, can you imagine being an Angels fan right now? They are having a worse time than we are and tehy were suppose to run away with the division.

  8. Grayfox on July 24th, 2007 8:39 pm

    Angels put Colon on DL

  9. daveblev on July 24th, 2007 8:40 pm

    Thanks for the “sermon on the mound” Lefebvre Belebvre..I remember an article in a Mariners Magazine from 1990 that had the “sermon on the mound” title about Jim Lefebvre. Anyhow, I’ve been a fan since 1985 and I’ve always felt the fanbase was more on the pessimist side. I know I have always been when it comes to the Mariners, always surprised when they are competing in the standings. I’ve never really jumped on the winning bandwagon since I think it’s all a fluke this year.

    How bout we dump Reitsma and get Chad Cordero for a setup role instead?

  10. JeffS on July 24th, 2007 8:41 pm

    Wow, what a poor showing… but every team goes through this at one point or another.

  11. The Unknown Comic on July 24th, 2007 8:41 pm


    Well he is a supervisor. He must know what he is talking about right?

  12. daveblev on July 24th, 2007 8:42 pm

    359…maybe so but it happens more to than the Mariners than any other team. I’ll check with the Elias Sports Bureau (smug grin).

  13. marinermiles on July 24th, 2007 8:44 pm

    347. You miss the point. It’s not just about win or loss. Ultimately I don’t care whether we can make it to postseason (we were supposed not to before the season anyway, lol). What so goddamn pisses me off, and other people too I’m sure, is this team (FO and Mac) so stubbornly not giving themselves the best chance they can to win. It’s a legitimate frustration.

  14. Lefebvre Belebvre on July 24th, 2007 8:45 pm

    I think enough time has passed since the “feel good” All-Star break when Ellison was a stand-up guy and the FO didn’t want to make massive changes to the roster.

    Well they’ve hit a “bit of lull,” to put it nicely, since the break and it would be perfectly legit to bring up Jones, DFA Ellison and start manipulating the roster with some platoons to keep everyone halfway happy while getting Jones in the lineup to reenergize the fan base and the team.

  15. Grayfox on July 24th, 2007 8:45 pm

    I think that if Lowe comes back and is in good shape, and can pick up where he left off, we might just get rid of rietsma, he’s not complete garbage and we may be able to get some minor leaguer for him.
    I heard an interview were bavasi stated “money is not a concern” or something along those lines, but its like, we cant just buy a player, people want things in return. Theres not much on the market right now, but i think we should also look at bringin up Wlad, him and jones are doing real well and really carrying the Rainers, maybe those 2 can help us out a lil bit. Theres not harm in sitting Yuni, especially if Wlad can come out hitting,but knowing Bavasi, he’ll probably trade him away, same with clement and lahair. As usual, our home grown talent ends up in someone elses dug out, and later in the year it bites us in the ass when that player breaks out and has big years.

  16. John in L.A. on July 24th, 2007 8:46 pm

    347 – C’mon, don’t be that guy.

    “Most of us” are not claiming the sky is falling, we’re upset that the team is making some very stupid decisions… and that some people are performing poorly over the course of the entire year.

    There was one poster who claimed the season was over, most did not. Most are just justifiably frustrated with a team doing seemingly doing whatever it can to lose.

    I’m pretty sure you’re not the only one who understands ebbs and flows… perhaps you should read the comments for the year and realize that most people have been saying the same things about the same players and the same organizational decisions all year. Nothing bandwagonner about it.

  17. msb on July 24th, 2007 8:46 pm

    FWIW, Atlanta is currently fretting about Sori and his recent slump

  18. Grayfox on July 24th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Detroit just lost both games today also.

  19. Lefebvre Belebvre on July 24th, 2007 8:53 pm

    Not to defend our FO. But I think a lot of FO’s and managers have to use patience much more so than fans.

    I’m not saying that’s smarter but…

    We were all yelling for Weaver’s head. They showed patience and he ends up turning it around for now.

    Vidro was terrible but he seems to actually be contributing now

    Luckily I wasn’t able to see the game tonight, but from the comments on this site it sounded like atrocious. This team will no doubt lose tomorrow, come home and regoup with a sweep of the Angels (pie in the sky, I know.

  20. DizzleChizzle on July 24th, 2007 8:57 pm

    347 & 353

    I don’t expect the M’s to win every series.

    However I am concerned that out of all of the top teams in the AL they are the only one who can claim they’ve had two 6 game losing streaks and currently on a 5 game losing streak this season.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Boston and Detroit both have had 4 games losing streaks this season and Cleveland and Anaheim have had a couple of 3 game losing streaks here and there.

    It’s just hard to take a a team like this serious if they continue to have these sporatic losing streaks of 5 games or more, especially when the playoff race is this close.

  21. Lefebvre Belebvre on July 24th, 2007 8:59 pm

    Have you read this thread today? Maybe you and I
    have different opions on the comments. I’ve been reading the site for some time now and know all about the frustration and the moves everyone wants to see.

    But tonights posts just seem to have a “sky is falling” theme…not just one post. I understand a 5 game losing streak will do that.

    I know we’re not bandwagoners here. But the despair is a bit much today. Like I said in my original post, we’ll probably snap out of this little funk and rip of 7 of 10 and everyone will be happy again…or as happy as they can be without Jones on the roster.

  22. daveblev on July 24th, 2007 8:59 pm

    They need to do Richie like they did Bret Boone..DFA him salary or not. He is clearly washed up.

  23. DizzleChizzle on July 24th, 2007 9:01 pm

    366 any chance they’d take a one for one swap with Reitsma. I’d gladly take a struggling Soriano over Reitsma.

  24. Teej on July 24th, 2007 9:03 pm

    The Braves got rid of Reitsma for a reason. I doubt they’d take him back for free.

  25. daveblev on July 24th, 2007 9:04 pm

    I miss Soriano..favorite moment was when he blew away Nomar in 2003.

  26. beckya57 on July 24th, 2007 9:21 pm

    To The Unknown Comic: Even if Bavasi has rebuilt the farm system, that’s an argument for giving him that job, not letting him be the GM. To the others who are calling us bandwaggoners: I’m not saying anything different than what I’ve said all year. I’ve always said this team has major holes and is a playoff pretender rather than a true contender. I’ve always said Bavasi should be fired. I’ve always said Felix belongs in Tacoma, not in the majors, at this stage of his career. I’ve never been a Hargrove fan, but I’ve always been much more concerned about Bavasi than Hargrove, because the field manager has to make do with what the GM gives him, and thus has much less influence. (The exception is the truly terrible manager who costs his team games in a close playoff race; think Bob Melvin in his first year.) This is just hardheaded baseball logic, not irrational fan despair.

  27. Slippery Elmer on July 25th, 2007 7:44 am

    Regarding Soriano, they’d better check the ol’ arm. He’s had a history of pitching ineffectively when injured.

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