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Game 98, Mariners vs Rangers
Washburn vs Loe, 5:30ish
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and you want to hear, starting a game, that your pitcher hasn’t won in the ballpark in 5 years.
Come on left-handed sock!
Something better come out of this..
The first inning walk-a-thon that we turn in to 1 run then turn off that O switch and lose 5-1.
Anne Sexton has been dead for 33 years, but she could probably take a walk at least that well.
wow, so this is how the whole game will be huh?
Pity Walk – That or Texas assumed that if Sexson blew the inning yet again, he’d be immediately traded for a bag of diarrhea, and wanted to save his clutch fail for a higher leverage point in the game.
If Gameday is right, the umpire’s strike zone is just all over the place.
Whoo hoo, on pace for 27 LOB this game…
washburn won his first ever game at texas in 1998, one win since.
At least we got Lowe back
11: Records are good right?
here we go again,
you know your offense is going bad when Rizzs actually mentions the guys who are struggling since the AS break
where did these uniforms come from?
Does Sexton have options left?
At one time, I’d have corrected the spelling. But now I just don’t care. He doesn’t deserve to have his name spelled right.
SeKKston I believe is the correct spelling
The disappointment and palpable desperation that is beginning to set in with this sad-sack bunch of pretenders will dissipate soon, when the M’s plummet back to .500-ville. August and September, which just 10 days ago seem so promising, now appears to be heading to another couple of months of playing out the string.
or SeKKKson if he’s really feelin it
Burke needs to hit his first home run, wouldnt that be nice.
The Rangers are a terrible team but the Mariners are making them look as if they are a playoff contender.
You know that Mike Sexton is a pretty good poker announcer. But he sure can’t hit a baseball.
I absolutely HATE listening to these Ranger Broadcasters….
I dimly recall that mlb teams have to have names on their road uniforms – Red Sox and Yankees getting grandfather exceptions. If that’s so, then what’s up with the spring training jersies? Is it too hot for heavy-weight polyester? Did someone screw up?
If anyone wants to enjoy their baseball night the Griffey Reynolds interview is very good on mlb.tv.
Bloomquist will be sore after tonight…
Is it possible to see if everyone on the Mariners’ roster can pass through waivers?
Wait, Erik Estrada is going to be at the “Turn Back the Clock” game? I am so there. I just wish my hair was still long so I could brush it out into a proper ‘fro. Because otherwise what I have that passes for 70s clothes are more Sex Pistols than Bee Gees.
I’m dying to know what Lauren is going to wear, though. Will the Token Chick be a toke’n chick of one sort or another?
Does Sexson get screwed on low pitches all the time? He should put safety orange tape on his knees so the ump remembers how tall he is.
you know, I thought I was fairly crabby the last week or so, but JIMINEDMONDS has me beat by a mile.
Maybe the forgot to pack an extra jersey for the double-header, so they resorted to wearing their BP garb?
How much is the team going to get fined by the league office?
11 games over .500 and it’s time to completely blow things up. Fire sale?
what’s up with the spring training jersies? Is it too hot for heavy-weight polyester?
Technically, I think those are the batting practice jerseys. It’s actually not that hot in Arlington today, by Texas-in-July standards. But I think it’s probably a laundry-management issue. The unis they wore for game 1 are the unis they’re going to wear tomorrow, and they’re out getting cleaned right now. (It may be something as silly as Putz forgot to pack his alternate jersey, so to keep the team consistent they all have to go to the backup).
wow that was a really nice pitch.
How is Mark MacLemore Adam Jones’s protégé?
30: Usually, yeah.
sorry I meant that to be the other way around.
Adam Jones went to the same HS as Mac (years later, of course) and Mac has mentored him
19: I’m a fan of “Suxson” myself.
(Expletive) Dave Samson
Why is he not buntin? jeeze we need to get a damn run or wash is going to fall apart.
#41– personally I prefer the TNT’s version … “screw David Samson”.
what brought that up?
Maybe Raul should just bunt.
Ichiro, of course.
It might be (Expletive) Raul Ibanez in a couple seconds too…
He’s toast. Retire please.
(Expletive) Raul Ibanez
(Expletive) Raul Ibanez indeed.
Thats what Rauls good for hitting into bouble plays!
Dude! Where’s My O?
Bench Ibanez NOW.
It’s starting to feel like as M’s fans, we’re all (Expletived).
Awesome. Nothing better than completely wasting your 18 million dollar player by having him bat in front of Vidro and Ibanez.
Like using 20 year old scotch to clean your hubcaps.
Why was Ichiro still on first?? Mac you can hit and run…steal…catcher interference…
(Expletive) Raul Ibanez.
WOW!!!!!! RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL
And there’s his excellent defensive skills.
There raul goes again miss playing the ball to give up a triple
I suspect they’ve switched to the BP Jerseys in order to change their luck. The team captain usually makes these calls, and I’m sure players are only vaguely aware of rules stating the road team has to have names on their jerseys.
Can someone tell me if the M’s have been wearing road grays or navy blue tops on this road trip?
LOL. Raul needs clown music.
Maybe they’d let him drive a tiny little car out there to start each inning.
ADAM FUCKING JONES!!!!!!!! NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
If I were Warren Zevon I would demand they stop playing my hit song when that clown comes up to bat. (even though he’s dead… I think)
that last throw from Ichiro:
“Just a bit outside”
that smile between Beltre and Metcalfe was a great moment. Hopefully we’ll have a nice still of that.
Raul should sell his rollerskates on ebay, he’d make a killing
It was his curve
RAUUUUL.
The U’s are for you U SUCK.
Raul. You need to catch those balls. He is blowing more catches than he is making at this point.
HEY!!!! A lousy defensive play by Raul resulted in a run scoring… that doesn’t happen often
of course, Washburn isn’t exactly helping.
Dave, would you mind just blacking out the blog tomorrow in protest? It’s just not right that the team should be able to crap their pants so enormously after getting within a game of the Angels.
I’m sure Raul will get that run back at the plate [snerk]
Bavasi, couple days ago:
“We are blessed, though, we’ve got guys that, that are either gifted defensively or take a lot of pride in it. Uh, you know, Raul Ibanez is an example of a guy that takes a lot of pride in it. He’s worked real hard to become a good outfielder.â€
Decent catch by Ben there.
atta boy ben, see Raul, watch the FIRST BASEMAN, thats how you play outfield
72 – since when did they start giving runs for fouling pitches off then striking out?
can someone explain why Jones isn’t playing left field and Broussard isn’t playing first(every day)
It’s a good thing we’ll have home field advantage in the World Series, because we haven’t even sniffed a win on the road lately.
Hey, Raul’s doing his best. It’s not HIS fault he’s in the lineup. I hereby remove all U’s from Bavasi and McLaren’s names.
C’mon guys, progress to the mean.
Congratulations to the Rangers for leading the league in sacrifice hits. That’s how you win ballgames.
77- Because Sexson makes 15 mil a year and the Mariners wouldn’t want us to think they made a mistake by paying him way to much.
Ok , the spelling sucked, but what do we do with him (Sexson), I would expect the bench would not really help him get better, He needs at bats where the consequences of his actions are not losses in the big leagues.
So can they send him down without having to clear waivers?
Is bavasi watching this game? or sitting at home chroming his dome.
(Expletive) Game Thread.
(Expletive) Sexson
atta boy Suckson
Man. Somebody has a quick trigger finger with that music. And a tough time counting to three.
lyt…yeah..we will never figure out how much richie sucks by watching him play every day….
woot cy young Loe?
Boy, this is fun. Gotta love baseball.
I thinks it is time to put a couple bench players on the DL to think about what they have not done.
Getting shut down in consecutive games by bottom-of-the-barrel pitchers = this season’s death knell. Yeah, I realize it’s “only” the 4th inning, but c’mon – when does the hitting start?
I’m having such painful visions…Adam Jones making the most of his call-up, ripping the cover off the ball as Rheinecker and Loe toss their array of piddling meatballs. Ugh!
To paraphrase Dave N.: “And, it just continues!”
Worst part of this is that we have been getting decent pitching
Why have Ral out there if Yuni and Ichiro call him off of anything in the air?
Nurse: What is the time of Death Doctor?
MD: Nurse, the Season Died July 24, 2007. May it rest in peace
Wow that fatty just stole a base?
Burkes not even trying to stop anyone from stealing..
Kudos to Dave Sims for blasting soccer. Get that weak, overhyped stuff out of here. Although a soccer game might have more scoring than the M’s right now.
Burke doesn’t stop people, the pitcher does. Burke throws down to second after they steal it off the pitcher. Laird was already there.
Hey, with Raul and Sexson several at-bats away, we might actually score a run!
#39 – sorry for the late response, I had to step away from this nonsense of a game and eat some delicious fish tacos. But I digress…msb, thanks for the link.
wow, we need one damn run and mac wont sac bunt? nobody is hitting anything why not try it small.
More like, kudos to Dave Sims for kicking a sport that’s already down
ok ill eat my words
104: It’s the fifth inning.
Hi I’m new to this blog so I apologize if I’m repeating something that’s been said earlier. But it seems that the Ms are completely dependent on the clutch hit. Where’s the opportunistic bunt, sac fly, squeeze, or steal when our bats are this silent? We’ve now had 2 shutouts and a 1-run loss in our last 4 games. But it seems McClaren (and for that matter Hargrove before him) are unwilling to play small-ball to scratch out a run here and there. Could have been the difference in splitting the last games instead of going 0-4. Our pitching is generally doing well. I’d much rather watch us attempt a little fun, small ball and fail than continue to await the clutch hit from Sexon or Broussard.
huh? wtf was he thinking
107 – exactly. Example 1045 of the night just occurred. Yuni thrown out at 2nd
Nice.
What the hell was that
Wow that would of been our run, what a stuid ass move.
Just what we needed two on no one out then they get them trying to steal
#105–Down and hopefully out, just like Yuni at second base. This is just getting f’iing ridiculous.
(FUCK) The Mariners! It didn’t feel right with (expletive)
lol
In general, I think McLaren and Hargrove did and are doing a pretty good job of mixing small ball in with relying on the talent of the players
that said, it’s a shame we’re not doing everything we can to manufacture runs when the bats are so obviously dead right now
This team is so mentally lazy sometimes…
And there is our run if we never tried to sacrifice. Bunting rears its ugly head once again.
And naturally we get a hit right after the pickoff. That’s what teams in slumps do….
Since we were unwilling to hit and run or just hit away, there was going to be at least one out at the end of that play regardless. Just one base short for each guy.
Utterly dumbass play by Yubet. I guess our entire middle infielders “learned” to bunt and run at the same school, judging by Yubet now and Lopez last night.
Yuni is fast becoming a liability. No D. Weakening bat. Lousy on the bases.
Loe is a terrible pitcher, but you sure wouldn’t know it from today.
hahaha wow what a sorry sight.
Unreal.
Everyone is looking good against the M’s right now.
I was watching highlights of the British Open on ESPN yesterday, and my husband and I were wondering why people spend their off time playing golf, when it’s such a frustrating game. He just asked me why people follow baseball, using the exact same logic. I was busy screaming at the TV set, and didn’t have a good answer.
Yet another horrendous baserunning error. Not sure what Willie was thinking not bunting. I’m not sure why Betancourt doesn’t just try to steal when the third baseman charges.
Two stolen bases by Texas, neither time has there even been a throw.
A bad, but understandable error last night.
As best I can tell, McLaren is a big fan of the sac bunt, hit-and-run, small ball crap
Ichiro strikes out yet again – on a pitch outside the zone. I suspect the M’s lead the league in strikeouts outside the zone.
Epilogue: The team needs a serious, serious shake-up. We all know what I mean.
Unbelievable
This g**d**m team is becoming a gruesome joke. That is the second blanking game that Ichiro has struck out with runners in scoring position. It is like home plate has kryptonite on it for the M’s.
is texas last in the division or first?i cant really tell right now.
Play off calibre teams don’t get dominated by the Texas rotation. Especially when they’re in Texas.
Mac looks pretty pathetic in that sling. An apt metaphor for the way the M’s are playing this past week and a half.
Has anybody besides me heard Yuni as trade bait rumors? I think I saw something on the Fox Sports site a couple of days ago. Right now, it looks like a good move.
FINALLY SOMETHING HAPPENS
Well, whaddaya know, maybe they were listening to us.
133
exactly
Nice hit by Vidro again. Thanks Carlos for actually SENDING the runner for a change.
Wonders never cease. A run.
Or should I say, Turbo stays hot.
What teams can use a SS?
Dude! Found my O in vidr-O!
You know, right now Jose Vidro is the best player on this team. Whoda thunk that?
At least Turbo is good for an RBI single now and then
Ichiro strikes out yet again – on a pitch outside the zone. I suspect the M’s lead the league in strikeouts outside the zone.
Considering the M’s lead the majors in not striking out, I highly doubt that.
To the rescue.
Now maybe.. another?
Vidro comes through though. This team has reversed roles completely.
I’m on ebay right now looking for a Vidro jersey.
hmmmm i remember last here where i would smile when raul came to the plate, now im seeing what else is on tv.
Who would we play at SS if we moved Yuni?
year****
R(au)lly killer time.
I’d love to get an Expos version.
Anybody predicting a groundout like me?
154- Right at 2B.
I’ll call for the pop to center.
Wow…I still can’t believe we just scored.
Are we allowed to do that?
And we were all wrong.
I was thinking 2B as well but I’m feeling SS
That was weird…
wow, luck of the draw huh
Second Life
Wow.
Woah!!!
wow.
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Turbo went TURBOOOOOOO!
“Wow, I did not see that coming, Ral always comes through” In my best Willy Wonka monotone voice.
awesome
Remember all those comments about bad calls before? I guess it evens out sometimes.
How did Raul get another shot?
The Gods are back on our side.
Does this mean we have to start saying nice things about Raul?
RUUUUUUUUN TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOO!… and Ral get’s teh “a” back for cashing in on a gift…
TURBO! Showing Turbo!
We found the key to Ral’s success, 4 strikes!
HEY NOWWWWWW!!!!!
Are my eyes deceiving me, or did Raul finally come through, and Turbo motors around the bases? Oh by the way, Boston 1, Cleveland 0 in the 8th.
The first Three Strikes are only practice!
I just want to know how Vidro scored from first. Was he running with the pitch?
Can someone please tell me and G-man how Raul was able to keep hitting?
Gameday says Raul struck out…and I freakin’ SAW him strike out and quit watching. What happened??
foul-tip not called 3rd strike kept RAL in the box
dropped foul tip is the only thing I can think of…
180 – no one is really sure, but the assumption is that the batter fouled it off.
We know the catcher dropped the ball, but couldn’t see if he fouled it or not.
If he did foul, it was ever so slightly.
i think texas can write a book on how to strike out the mariners, it will have one page and say “throw it in the dirt”
Well as long as we get four strikes per AB we can win this thing!
Yeah, they showed a replay of the ball coming out of the glove, the catcher dropped it.
OK for those of you watching the game WTF is going on because Yahoo and MLB are lagging. I’m seeing a Raul strikeout but obviously you guys are seeing something else.
Lol, there was a foul tip by raul.
Lets just friggin’ PRAY that Washburn doesn’t pull a HoRam and completely screw the pooch here
catcher dropped strike three.
188. Raul struck out after swinging about a foot over top of a 12-6 curve. Laird dropped the ball for some reason, and when everyone was walking to their respective dugouts, the HP umpire decided Raul tipped it, thusly giving him new life. He promptly ripped a liner into right center, which Lofton took a terrible angle on, allowing 2 runs to score.
Okay, God, we’re even.
Is Metcalf’s nickname going to be “all-world” after today?
#180, I did not see the ball hit the bat, maybe someone with HDTV could tell, I have mlb.tv and it looked to me he should have run to first. He was lucky to get another ball.
he swung, and the catcher caught it, everyone started towards the dugouts, music swells, score runner appears, and the umpire then calls dropped ball, and we kept on going ….
I don’t see how you say he missed it by a foot… replays seemed to me like he missed it by the tiniest of margins or fouled it by the tiniest of margins.
Yuni boots another one.
Doesn’t matter how or why it happened, lets just be happy that it did.
Did Washington even try to argue that call?
The fall of washburn.
Yup, here we go again.
200
Yep. Raise your hand if you’re even remotely surprised
196. A bit of hyperbole. He clearly swung over the ball, and it really wasn’t even particularly close. I will, on the other hand, revel in the lucky break.
and… it leads to run. cursed I tell you, cursed.
#199– he came out and asked, and then went on back to the dugout.
how nice it would be to have a first baseman who could hit like that…
Game over.
oh for petes sake.
Has Horam been giving Washburn pitching advice?
Ok everyone out of the pool.
207 Geeez it is only tied
207- It’s ending in a tie??
199 – Yes. He came running out. The broadcast was going to commericial, crowd was shocked.
But when he came out to argue you could read his lips saying “Did he foul it?”
And he didn’t argue too hard.
I don’t see how the catcher dropping it is even relevant unless it was a foul.
Otherwise he goes to first or out, doesn’t get a do-over.
Imagine what it would be like to have a productive heart of the order.
Don’t burn images of Bavasi in effigy after this inning….you people need to burn more Buddha candles….
With the way they have been playing I don’t even think we could buy a game
Hmmmm. So, Grover leaves just before the M’s launch themselves headfirst into the shitter. Coincidence?
Pretty sure Grover didn’t botch that DP or throw a wild pitch.
Gave him meat and potatoes to hit and he turned it down for liver and onions.
2nd game in a row with 3-0 pop outs for Ben.
wonder what more regular playing time would do for Burke and Broussard…
It’s all over. They’re done. Season over. They’re moving to Charlotte. Burn all your Mariners attire . . .
Come on, guys.
222-
No one’s being that dramatic, but the bats are tired and have been since the all star break.
Change is needed, and needed now. This is no time to play with the same squad and hope for the best. Jones needs to be in the lineup immediately.
sigh. remember when the Ms would score runs in the 7th, 8th innings to win the game?
One bat in this lineup wouldn’t change much if Jones comes up big. Vidro is the only one hitting right now sadly. 2 hitters and 7 guys struggling will not keep you in the playoff race.
Ya those were the days *224
Indians go down, lets get this fellas! Go M’s!
GO OAKLAND!!!! if they can hand it to the angels that would be nice
Great to see we’re giving Young another chance to kill us by not retiring Lofton
C’mon Sean!! We absolutely NEED this out.
LOL is Green trying to bean him?
Thats my Greenie!
Lol he said F**k
Its like Texas doesn’t even care that Loe is nearing about 400 pitches. They’re just thinking, “Why waste a reliever? These guys can’t hit.”
This is absolutly Pathetic, 115 pitches and were still striking out.
Hey, three hits against Escobar in the 1st inning…
Of course, if the A’s are like us that will be the entirety of it.
Id do the same thing.
The way things are going Cameron Crowe could shut the M’s down.
Or even Cameron from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
235
You were close. After a Piazza sac fly, Ellis screwed up by K’ing and I think Kotsay made the third out. Coulda had a big inning (now who does THAT sound like?)
so let’s see, the last 5 games we have 0 runs, 0 runs, barely scrape out 3 runs against a wobbly Millwood, then a homer vs Gagne, unearned run this afternoon, and now 3 runs, 2 of which were flukes.
What the hell is going on? Did no body sleep last night on this ball club? this is absolutely un acceptable.
241
Aren’t we STILL asleep?
I love the way Rizzs compliments Raul for his hustle, when Raul does what any competent left-fielder should do.
Raul makes one nice play this week in LF and Simms is ready to write his name of the H of F ballot.
The M’s are sure doing their best to make sure Sosa gets in right away.
ya i think we raised Loe’s trade stock after today, just like we did for Towers up in toronto, isnt that nice of us
With our luck, we’ll raise their stock so high that we’ll go after them and give up Jones, lol
we could always bring back peneiro hahahaha
I’d like to bring in Willis from Florida…
For his HITTING of course
HEY! The guy with the rally fries is sharing with Rangers fans!
Not. Cool.
That was a great interview.
224: You’re referring to the 1995 “Refuse to Lose” team, right?
Vince Colman, Hard-Hittin’ Mark Whiten, and so on?
Raul vs a lefty
This should go over like a fart in a diver’s helmet…sigh
Whiten came over the NEXT year and hit some absolutely monster tape measure shots. Had a 480 foot salami at the Metrodome.
wow i rather have Jeremy Reed bat against lefties than have Ibanez….
Can’t blame Raul (for once) on that one. Looked low and outside.
I like how we try and pull every single pitch on the outside corner.
That was it, time for the strike out.
Wouldn’t it be nice for Richie to hit a ball hard when it mattered?
258 Are you saying that it didn’t matter last night?
If Richie had U’s I would take them, for now I’s will do. Go Rche!
260 Can I sell you a K?
what a sorry son of a bitch.
Big “swing-and-a-miss” Sexy strikes (out) again…
Gotta marvel at Sexson’s “consistency”
He’d have hit it about 500 feet if we were up or down by 5-6 runs of course.
258
I dunno…DID it matter?
259 – Pretty much. I guess the vision I had was seeing one of our big money hitters hit a ball out to win a game. You know how when you face the Red Sox, Angels, Indians or Tigers they have the heart of the order where you get to the end of the game and you are thinking ‘crap we are in big trouble’. Wouldn’t it be nice for a change if we had an O that put that fear into the opposing team?
261- No, I must have thousands now.
Don’t let him fool you with some crazy pitch like a 93 MPH fast ball that looks straight as an arrow on MLB.tv Rche.
262 Sheesh why don’t you call him a bastard while you’re at it.
I just can’t believe that #$&^&##@! Sexson! At least Dave Kingman could pitch. For you young ones look it up.
His fat ass isn’t bunting anywhere.
Raise your hands if you really think the Mariners will come through and win this game. Yeah, neither do I.
we are gettin this division gift wrapped to us same with the wild card, but we squander it away, and watch, when we start winning so will the teams we are chasing, and then we’ll end up with nothing.
271- I do.
#269–He could also send dead rats to sportsreporters he did not like. Class guy, that King Kong.
lol, the tigers have lost alot lately also, so have the angels, it could be worse, we could be back at 8 games back and be out of this thing for a long while, lets just hope we can turn it around at some point because the more this continues the more likely we are to fall further away from any hopes of a post season.
I would think about walking Metcalf, he has killed us this series and sets up the DP.
Oh no! Reitsma is NOT the answer.
And I would have been right.
So what is the M’s record when they AREN’T leading after 8…..
Good thing we have Reitsma in the 8th.
Reitsma, our 8th-inning specialist.
lol ya, wasnt mac saying a few days ago that Rietsma is our 8th inning guy?
I’m so frustrated right now…..the season is over IMO
The 2007 Mariners: They’ll give you a sinking feeling everytime.
Was hoping to see Lowe at some point.
Whomever had idea to continue using Reitsma in crucial situations should lose their job immediately.
o wait, Gag-me has a chance of chokin…..
Look on the bright side — at least the heart of the order isn’t coming up in the 9th down one.
I am beginning to hate this team.
If Lowe can’t pitch better than that loser Reitsma, then he shouldn’t even be at AA, much less w/ the big club.
Will we go in order or strand a runner at first?
It would be nice to see the M’s be proactive about winning instead of reactive to a losing streak. Unfortunately we are racing towards a repeat of last year.
I’m glad that I’m not the only member of the Reitsma fan club.
They look just so bad right now. This all coming at a time where we play sub .500 teams and the Angels AND Indians are losing. These games could really haunt us. I just don’t see our bats magically waking up against the A’s, Angels, or Red Sox the next 3 series……pathetic!
Can Erik Estrada play left-field?
Seriously…
Has Reitsma been effective at ANY time in the last TWO years?
What does Gagne have left? What about me, a tired commenter?!
OMG
The thing that is so pathetic is that EVERYBODY here could predict these situations better than Bavasi could. Reitsma for the bullpen instead of Soriano? Vidro for DH? Ho for the rotation? Adam Jones rotting away in Tacoma? I am so sick of the fact that our GM is a bumbling fool. It would make my 2007 year to know he will be fired. And I know that means we lose Fontaine and blah blah blah but you know what — sometimes you need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. He’s an idiot.
Good Ellison. We needed you to steal first. Way to find the ball and have base coaches tell you what to do.
wow, just wow.
The Rangers are pitching Gagne three times in two days? They must be trading him because they certainly don’t care about wrecking his arm.
295 No, why anyone in Atlanta thought he could be a closer is beyond me.
What the hell is going on with the club? They are just losing ugly now. As Casey Stengel used to say: “Can anyone here play this game?”
The worst base running team in baseball. Easily. Every year. Just piss away outs and opportunities.
Jesu- Flippin’ A Christ.
How many ridiculous baserunning mistakes can you make in a series?
Of course, hit-and-run with Betancourt is a bad idea in any situation. Why should Ellison be caring if Betancourt hits the ball? He should be straight stealing. Why should Betancourt swing at a ridiculous pitch for Ellison’s sake?
Game Over bitches!
Oh man. Kenji’s pinch-hitting.
OK, Kenji. Maybe this is what you need to break out of it.
DP Johjima? We trying to end this quickly on purpose?
Maybe we can just sideline Bavasi. Figurehead, keeps Fontaine happy, but the strings are really pulled by (Kim Ng, Chris Antonetti, etc.)
… or, you know, not.
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Not even the first ninth inning baserunning blunder THIS SERIES
Kenji effs up on a hitter’s count
What a bunch of losers…Ichie GUARANTEED to be left on deck…AGAIN
3 games in a row, down by 1 no outs and a runner on first and we don’t bunt or move the runner over. WTF?
I can not stand watching Kenji Johjima bat.
where’s the remote…
So, anyone in the know… please tell me that we are not stuck with Mac as our manager next year.
Please? The word interim isn’t leaving his title yet, is it?
Because so far he has shown me exactly one smart move, dozens of neutral moves, and quite a few stupid moves.
Reitsma? Really? Sherrill gets one out, then Reitsma?
And what, are we saving Putz for the third game of today’s triple-header?
Reitsma is the best you can do?
Bah.
We have the league’s only designated runners who can’t or won’t steal
Yup. Just not a surprise at all.
Texas is awesome………………………
crap. two consecutive losing series against mediocre to bad teams, and the M’s look horrible….
The Mighty Texas Rangers.
Get ready for a four game sweep of this bunch of losers by Tejas. This is the same crap that we saw last year, the year before, and the year before that. I don’t want to hear about the schedule problems the team has had, the travel, the managerial change,etc. Simply put, they just don’t get the job done, and there are more holes on this team than a 50 year screen door. Here’s an idea: on Turn Back the Clock Day, why don’t they set the clock back to June when we had a contender. There is about a 50/50 shot this team ends under .500 for the year. This is plain sickening!
314-unfortunately he NEVER even had the intirim tag. William named him manager from the first day
As I said before in the other game thread: hello 11 game losing streak. At this point I think the Mariners are better off being sellers near the trade deadline. The only untouchables should be JJ, Ichiro, Jester Felix, Sean Green, and Mark Lowe. Ok, I would keep Beltre for defense but get rid of the hitless talentless hacks on the team, call up AJ and Wladimir.
This is the worst they’ve played all year, absolutely embarrasing.
Me officially hates McLaren. God, this guy is awful. I never imagined I would ever miss Grover.
i 2nd that *324
Quote of the night:
Sims: “you know folks, the cameras don’t always catch this. But Raul does a great job in LF backing up second and third.”
classic.
The one good thing about all this is it increases the likelihood of Bavasi losing his job. One thing we’re being reminded of here is the relative unimportance of field managers: we all thought Hargrove was doing a poor job (with some good reasons), but he’s gone and the team has crashed. I don’t think McLaren’s responsible either; this is just a poorly constructed club, with inconsistent starting pitching, too many over-the-hill-players (reflecting the franchise’ historical preference for washed-up veterans over young players), and too many free swingers. This is the mess that Bavasi’s built, and unlike Woodward, he can’t blame his mistakes on team poverty. In a way, it’s better that the team collapse and take Bavasi down with them, than for them to play around the edges of the pennant race all year and help Bavasi keep his job.
I don’t even care if the Angels win or lose tonight seriously.
We can’t bunt, run the bases or hit with RISP…other than that…
I am glad McLaren has his arm in a sling, because the rest of the team has its collective posteriors in one. Another thing: can Blowers find a way to start any of his glittering analysis without saying “The Mariners need to find a way to (fill in the blank)….” How about they need to find a way to look like a decent major league club?
Putting Reitsma on the mound in the 8th was equivalent to throwing in the towel. Shame on you McLaren.
And I know that means we lose Fontaine and blah blah blah but you know what — sometimes you need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Note to self: do not hire sankthetank as my next babysitter.
Hello all, been a troller of this site, love the content. First time post. Seriously, ChristReitsma. Dave Sims stating how its glad to be back, McLaren saying he is their 8th inning guy. Good lord. Can anyone not see the upcoming tee shots off the Rangers bats?? For the first couple hitters, all of the pitches were in their wheelhouse. Belt high, over the plate. Little sink on the breaking pitches. Is the manager blind??
#322
Jester Felix.
Gotta admit that was funny.
Obviously we are still very much in the race…
…which makes it all the more frustrating to watch dumb and dumber make the same mistakes over and over again.
I’m not mad at Richie, or Raul, or Jose. Or Morrow or Reitsma.
It’s not like they’re not trying, they’re just not succeeding. That’s life.
But I am very mad at Mac and Bill, because they are the ones that should be making sure that their struggles don’t hurt the team. They are the ones that should be making sure the players are in the best position to earn a win.
And really, Bill, stop trying so damn hard to peddle your line of bullshit to the press and the public. You cannot possibly believe Raul is actually a good defender in left… if you do, fire yourself immediately, please. And if you don’t, just stop peddling that crap so the general public doesn’t realize how much you’re screwing up.
and Texas tried so hard to let the Ms win, too.
I really don’t think McLaren is having that great an effect one way or the other — I don’t think any manager is going to win with this pitching and hitting.
oh, and Willie really needs to take Ellison out and teach him the basics of base-running.
Hey Dave Sims that M’s are making a serious move in the Wild Card standings, too: Down! Glub, glub, glub!
I love the Mariners. I’m a devoted fan, I try to watch every game, I really hope we make the playoffs this year, but god dammit, fuck the Mariners.
No, I honestly believe Bill is enough of a dumbass to think Raul is a good leftfielder.
And dumb enough to think Reitsma wouldn’t screw the pooch today…like most days
Wow. A couple of weeks ago it seemed Bavasi and gang were listening to Ussmariner and now it is back to business as usual.
well, at least we can watch braves games on TNT and see how we threw away Soriano, Thats always a breath of fresh air.
Gee we lost, but with Ellison And Wille B getting all that time those were definitely 2 gritty ball games today!
Last thing tonight: Didn’t the game winning hit sound like it was a mortar blast? Well Chris Reitsma has one thing going for him–he is the loudest pitcher in the A.L.
#341
I’m a sabermetric neanderthal and even I couldn’t understand trading Soriano for HoRam.
4 one run losses in one week. Why the hell is Richie Sexson still in this starting lineup hitting barely above the Mendoza Line and Adam Jones’ ass is still sitting in Tacoma? Does anybody in this front office even have any common sense? If any other player besides Richie Sexson was doing this and not making $14 million a year, he’d be off the team.
Does Bavasi have the guts to do anything? Nope. He didn’t have the guts to make any trades at the deadline in ’98 with Anaheim, he didn’t have the guts to fire Terry Collins in ’98 or ’99, he didn’t have the guts to fire Grover last year after the 11 game losing streak, and now with Adam Jones, the potential answer to the Mariners offensive woes sitting right on their lap, Bavasi chooses to keep him in Tacoma.
Give me a flippin’ break.
Bavasi is going to cost this team a pennant because he has no guts to make any moves that might slightly throw off the chemistry of the clubhouse in favor of making the team better. And if that doesn’t get his ass fired, I don’t know what will.
I’ve seen this team rebuild long enough, I want to win now.
327 – Our new manager had opportunities to give us much better chances to win this week.
I know managers, as a rule, don’t matter too much.
But I think this week we’ve seen the exception. Really, using George for one batter and then going to Reitsma in a tied game hurt our chances to win, pretty significantly, imo.
The line-ups he has trotted out have hurt our chances to win.
I’m still hoping he’s intentionally trying to manage like Mike or something, afraid to rock the ship.
Because if this is really a preview of the next few years… god help us. Because he has been a frigging idiot.
Most of you guys are hilarious. I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of bandwagoners. You act like you’ve never watched a baseball season before. You can’t all be new to this can you?
You think we’re the only team that’s ever looked like crap for a stretch of games. It’s not like we’re the ’27 Yankees. Christ, even teh Red Sox and Tigers have hit some rough spots this year and we don’t have half the line-ups they do.
A week from now. Lord willing, we will have won 3 of 4 or maybe even have swept the Halos and you will all be singing their praises again.
I know it’s frustrating to see a team play like crap. But you have to expect the ebbs and flows in a 162 game season.
That being said…BRING UP FRIGGIN’ JONES!!!! He might be the spark this team needs right now.
To think I just renewed MLB.TV for another month…I’ve seen the Nationals run the bases better and play better games this year despite their record but I no longer have cable so no O’s or Nats games…the rangers announcers annoy me so I switched to MLB radio…I can always detect the frustration in Dave Niehaus’s voice.seemed to be a lot tonight and last night and most notable during last years 11 loss debacle during a homerun the A’s hit..here’s hoping for better games to come.
#345
At least Bavasi has done a good job rebuilding the M’s farm teams.
Bring up jones and give richie some glasses, maybe he’s blind, cuz he swings like ray charles at a piniata party.
I wonder if Reitsma could run the club, and Bavasi could be the 8th inning guy?? Could either of them possibly be worse than the other?
#350
I like Richie because he is from Washington.
347: Hear, hear!
I don’t have blind faith in this team by any means, but the frantic nature of these comments is absurd. There’s a lot of season left, and the teams we’re chasing are losing games, too. You guys didn’t honestly think the Mariners would win every series from here on out, did you? Geez. I’m all for bringing up Jones and making the team better, but the sky isn’t falling because of a five-game losing streak.
My supervisor at work told me Raul is a good outfielder. Said he takes good routes to the ball.
*354…
Are you sure your not Dave Sims or work for him?
The one concern I had over this recent run of success is what it meant for Bavasi’s future? Obviously he needs to go on so many levels. But does a team that has/had one of the 5 best records in baseball fire their GM?
I have a feeling our ownership won’t rock the boat. A little too corporate.
The way this team is going though they will stay relatively close all year and be eliminated from teh playoff race with one week to go. Is that success or failure in the eyes of ownership?
Knowing how we feel for playing this bad, can you imagine being an Angels fan right now? They are having a worse time than we are and tehy were suppose to run away with the division.
Angels put Colon on DL
Thanks for the “sermon on the mound” Lefebvre Belebvre..I remember an article in a Mariners Magazine from 1990 that had the “sermon on the mound” title about Jim Lefebvre. Anyhow, I’ve been a fan since 1985 and I’ve always felt the fanbase was more on the pessimist side. I know I have always been when it comes to the Mariners, always surprised when they are competing in the standings. I’ve never really jumped on the winning bandwagon since I think it’s all a fluke this year.
How bout we dump Reitsma and get Chad Cordero for a setup role instead?
Wow, what a poor showing… but every team goes through this at one point or another.
#355
Well he is a supervisor. He must know what he is talking about right?
359…maybe so but it happens more to than the Mariners than any other team. I’ll check with the Elias Sports Bureau (smug grin).
347. You miss the point. It’s not just about win or loss. Ultimately I don’t care whether we can make it to postseason (we were supposed not to before the season anyway, lol). What so goddamn pisses me off, and other people too I’m sure, is this team (FO and Mac) so stubbornly not giving themselves the best chance they can to win. It’s a legitimate frustration.
I think enough time has passed since the “feel good” All-Star break when Ellison was a stand-up guy and the FO didn’t want to make massive changes to the roster.
Well they’ve hit a “bit of lull,” to put it nicely, since the break and it would be perfectly legit to bring up Jones, DFA Ellison and start manipulating the roster with some platoons to keep everyone halfway happy while getting Jones in the lineup to reenergize the fan base and the team.
I think that if Lowe comes back and is in good shape, and can pick up where he left off, we might just get rid of rietsma, he’s not complete garbage and we may be able to get some minor leaguer for him.
I heard an interview were bavasi stated “money is not a concern” or something along those lines, but its like, we cant just buy a player, people want things in return. Theres not much on the market right now, but i think we should also look at bringin up Wlad, him and jones are doing real well and really carrying the Rainers, maybe those 2 can help us out a lil bit. Theres not harm in sitting Yuni, especially if Wlad can come out hitting,but knowing Bavasi, he’ll probably trade him away, same with clement and lahair. As usual, our home grown talent ends up in someone elses dug out, and later in the year it bites us in the ass when that player breaks out and has big years.
347 – C’mon, don’t be that guy.
“Most of us” are not claiming the sky is falling, we’re upset that the team is making some very stupid decisions… and that some people are performing poorly over the course of the entire year.
There was one poster who claimed the season was over, most did not. Most are just justifiably frustrated with a team doing seemingly doing whatever it can to lose.
I’m pretty sure you’re not the only one who understands ebbs and flows… perhaps you should read the comments for the year and realize that most people have been saying the same things about the same players and the same organizational decisions all year. Nothing bandwagonner about it.
FWIW, Atlanta is currently fretting about Sori and his recent slump
Detroit just lost both games today also.
Not to defend our FO. But I think a lot of FO’s and managers have to use patience much more so than fans.
I’m not saying that’s smarter but…
We were all yelling for Weaver’s head. They showed patience and he ends up turning it around for now.
Vidro was terrible but he seems to actually be contributing now
Luckily I wasn’t able to see the game tonight, but from the comments on this site it sounded like atrocious. This team will no doubt lose tomorrow, come home and regoup with a sweep of the Angels (pie in the sky, I know.
347 & 353
I don’t expect the M’s to win every series.
However I am concerned that out of all of the top teams in the AL they are the only one who can claim they’ve had two 6 game losing streaks and currently on a 5 game losing streak this season.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Boston and Detroit both have had 4 games losing streaks this season and Cleveland and Anaheim have had a couple of 3 game losing streaks here and there.
It’s just hard to take a a team like this serious if they continue to have these sporatic losing streaks of 5 games or more, especially when the playoff race is this close.
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Have you read this thread today? Maybe you and I
have different opions on the comments. I’ve been reading the site for some time now and know all about the frustration and the moves everyone wants to see.
But tonights posts just seem to have a “sky is falling” theme…not just one post. I understand a 5 game losing streak will do that.
I know we’re not bandwagoners here. But the despair is a bit much today. Like I said in my original post, we’ll probably snap out of this little funk and rip of 7 of 10 and everyone will be happy again…or as happy as they can be without Jones on the roster.
They need to do Richie like they did Bret Boone..DFA him salary or not. He is clearly washed up.
366 any chance they’d take a one for one swap with Reitsma. I’d gladly take a struggling Soriano over Reitsma.
The Braves got rid of Reitsma for a reason. I doubt they’d take him back for free.
I miss Soriano..favorite moment was when he blew away Nomar in 2003.
To The Unknown Comic: Even if Bavasi has rebuilt the farm system, that’s an argument for giving him that job, not letting him be the GM. To the others who are calling us bandwaggoners: I’m not saying anything different than what I’ve said all year. I’ve always said this team has major holes and is a playoff pretender rather than a true contender. I’ve always said Bavasi should be fired. I’ve always said Felix belongs in Tacoma, not in the majors, at this stage of his career. I’ve never been a Hargrove fan, but I’ve always been much more concerned about Bavasi than Hargrove, because the field manager has to make do with what the GM gives him, and thus has much less influence. (The exception is the truly terrible manager who costs his team games in a close playoff race; think Bob Melvin in his first year.) This is just hardheaded baseball logic, not irrational fan despair.
Regarding Soriano, they’d better check the ol’ arm. He’s had a history of pitching ineffectively when injured.