Game 108, Red Sox at Mariners

DMZ · August 4, 2007 at 6:15 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

This should be a good time. Matsuzaka v Washburn? Possibly the best team in baseball against a hot M’s team struggling to put themselves into contention — sign me up.

Daisuke v Jarrod!
Daisuke: 144 IP, 133 H, 15 HR, 50 BB, 142 K
Jarrod: 129.1 IP, 137 H, 10 HR, 42 BB, 69 K

And one of them pitches in Fenway, the other in Safeco.

Comments

385 Responses to “Game 108, Red Sox at Mariners”

  1. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 6:25 pm

    Let’s hope that Washburn is tonight’s Sabermetric Anti-Hero of the Game.

  2. milendriel on August 4th, 2007 6:25 pm

    Nice to know our #2 starter has a 4.8 K/9.

  3. Spanky on August 4th, 2007 6:28 pm

    One is making $6.4 Million…the other $9.9 Million!

  4. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 6:36 pm

    1 – that;s what i am hoping too. I bet half of the fans in safeco will be rooting for Dice-K, either the bosox fans or the japanese.

    3 – lol…who’s making what?

  5. BigB on August 4th, 2007 6:41 pm

    Lets keep this Beantown ownership up

  6. seahawks fan 13 on August 4th, 2007 6:42 pm

    Go Red Sox!

  7. zvazda on August 4th, 2007 6:43 pm

    6 – Are you a troll, or just unfunny?

  8. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 6:46 pm

    6 – Not funny

    Hopefully Jones PH’s or PR’s for Ibanez in the middle of the game.

  9. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 6:48 pm

    Meanwhile, they got that kid who dropped from 45 on the X-Games one channel up. Miraculously, he’s already out of the hospital. Is the dude just the luckiest guy on earth, or do they put something in the water in Australia?

  10. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 6:50 pm

    Red sox fans are no better than yankee fans, they all walk around like thier S**T dont stink, so get out of our Mariner’s forum.

  11. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 6:54 pm

    Nice to see there’s a game thread today so we don’t have guess where we are going to congregate.

    Nice to see Sexson on the bench. Hopefully Mac keeps him there until the road trip.

  12. seahawks fan 13 on August 4th, 2007 6:55 pm

    Hey, I like the mariners too, but when my Red Sox are involved they get the upper hand.

  13. lailaihei on August 4th, 2007 6:56 pm

    1: Explain? I’m new to this blog and not yet well versed in all the goings on here.
    9: He took that fall pretty well. It’s still amazing that he didn’t break any bones… But if someoneone lands correctly from a 30,000 foot drop from an airplane onto concrete, they can survive. He’s pretty practiced at landing correctly, I’d assume, being a pro skateboarder and all. =P

  14. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 6:56 pm

    were here to talk mariner baseball, not root for boston.

  15. lailaihei on August 4th, 2007 6:56 pm

    Also, Red Sox Nation is the worst bandwagon ever.

  16. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 6:57 pm

    11: What, the free beer offer last night wasn’t worth the brief uncertainty as to where the game thread party ended up being?

  17. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 6:58 pm

    ya its like back in high school, all the “cool” kids were smoking, now its all the “cool” kids wear boston stuff.

  18. SMK on August 4th, 2007 6:59 pm

    I don’t get the snobbery. If there are Red Sox fans willing to talk baseball here, who cares??

  19. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 6:59 pm

    There is one positive note on Richie’s Batting AVG, that bar down the street on richie night has got to be the place for bums to hang out, what better place to get a cheap beer huh, the lower his avg the more bums are happy.

  20. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 6:59 pm

    #15 speaks the truth. When the curse was getting hyped in the early 2000s people starting rooting for them, and then when they beat the Yankees everyone just decided to become Boston fans. They’re worse than the Yankees now. AMERICA’S TEAM BABY!!! Barf.

  21. BigB on August 4th, 2007 7:00 pm

    17: at least the red NY Yankees hats are out of style. I’d rather see people wearing BoSox hats than discolored hats of any team

  22. WSULeifJ on August 4th, 2007 7:01 pm

    We’ve already gotten some nice help on the scoreboard today…hopefully the ChiSox hang on too. I’m dying to see the Mariners actually holding down a playoff spot in the standings.

  23. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 7:01 pm

    Also, I hate how every announcer says “Dice-K”…the real pronunciation of his name is much cooler.

  24. zvazda on August 4th, 2007 7:02 pm

    18 – I totally agree. But I think they should introduce themselves to us as someone who is a Red Sox fan looking to chat with some mariners fans and get a friendly riff going. Not just log on and say Go Red Sox.

  25. WSULeifJ on August 4th, 2007 7:03 pm

    20 – Agreed. Drives me up a freaking wall that people see the Red Sox as somehow more noble than the Yankees. They’re not, at all.

  26. SMK on August 4th, 2007 7:06 pm

    Chicago up 7-5 on Detroit going to the bottom of the 9th…

  27. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 7:09 pm

    Detroit has absolutly fallen apart lately

  28. seahawks fan 13 on August 4th, 2007 7:09 pm

    24-hmmm friendly chat.How bout this, the M’s are a C+ team at best thats having a lucky year…most likely not friendly enough. No but really, do you diehard M’s fans actually believe you can make the playoffs. In my opinion, the tigers or Indians will get the wild card, and la angels will have the West.

  29. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 7:11 pm

    OK, he’s a troll, folks. Kindly ignore for the duration.

  30. DAMellen on August 4th, 2007 7:12 pm

    No Adam…that’s what I was hoping to see.

  31. SMK on August 4th, 2007 7:13 pm

    Chicago wins!!

  32. WSULeifJ on August 4th, 2007 7:13 pm

    Tigers lose! Alright boys, let’s move into the wildcard spot.

  33. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 7:14 pm

    Hey, at least he’s a Seahawks fan!!! He probably jumped on that bandwagon in 2005, he was previously a Patriots fan. Wait, he’s probably upset that his team has the worst left fielder in baseball. How many runs does he cost Boston a year, 85?

  34. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 7:15 pm

    Yankees Suck! Yankees Suck!

  35. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 7:15 pm

    lol, like our left fielder is sooo awesome!!!!!

  36. pygmalion on August 4th, 2007 7:15 pm

    25 I dunno, I grew up a Mariners fan but always had that image of the Red Sox, and haven’t had any reason to change it. To this day I root for them whenever they’re in the playoffs and the M’s aren’t.

  37. Teej on August 4th, 2007 7:17 pm

    How many runs does he cost Boston a year, 85?

    A lot fewer than he adds with his bat. He’s a mess in the field for sure, but he’s still absolutely worth it.

  38. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 7:20 pm

    #35 Adam Jones is awesome :)

  39. DAMellen on August 4th, 2007 7:20 pm

    23

    I had heard his name is pronounced Dice-K. How do you really say it?

  40. SMK on August 4th, 2007 7:20 pm

    If ripping on Manny’s defense is the worst insult you can come up with, then the Red Sox are doing pretty damn well.

  41. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 7:22 pm

    Totally depressing that Jones isn’t playing tonight. This organization… sheesh. Even when they’re on the brink of doing something right, they manage to stop themselves in the nick of time.

    Anything interesting happen last night at the event, anyone?

  42. thowe1 on August 4th, 2007 7:22 pm

    Man, Wash has definitely got his “A” game curveball tonight… that thing is nasty coming at you between 70 – 74 MPH.

  43. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 7:22 pm

    wow wash-k

  44. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 7:22 pm

    39 – it’s actually pretty close, the ‘u’ is basically silent. So D-eye-skay.

  45. WSULeifJ on August 4th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Manny’s just a clown in general. Not that we can take anything away from him offensively, but I’m still waiting for us to plunk him for the showboating over the walkoff earlier this year.

  46. Typical Idiot Fan on August 4th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Jarrod pisses me off. He’s done this the last couple of times he’s been out. He’ll start out striking out everybody then completely implode in the 4th inning.

    Inconsistency, thy name is Washburn.

  47. Colm on August 4th, 2007 7:25 pm

    Teej, even if he’s +60 or 70 with his bat (astounding) he’s also -30 with his glove, leaving us a net +40. 4 wins. Pretty good, but hardly worth what we tend to think he’s worth.

    Okay, this is all guesswork from me. Somebody rip into this assertion.

  48. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 7:25 pm

    #44 I thought it was pronounced Die-soo-kay? Oh well, if that is how it’s pronounced his name sucks.

    Wash is doing well tonight.

  49. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 7:26 pm

    wow, nice start to get his pitch count up, were in for a long night.

  50. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 7:27 pm

    I like Manny to be honest. I heard a Red Sox fan on Colin Cowherd (spelling?) and he said Manny’s carefree attitude was part of the reason the Red Sox were able to overcome the curse. I know from a sabermetric perspective that is probably hogwash but it made me look at Manny in a different light.

  51. seahawks fan 13 on August 4th, 2007 7:29 pm

    45-I agree, that was low class.

  52. tgf on August 4th, 2007 7:29 pm

    From a sabermetric perspective curses, boogey men and the like don’t really exist.

  53. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 7:29 pm

    I wasn’t really trying to dis Manny, I’ve always thought he was a cool player…it was more of a rip on the ‘new Red Sox’…or Red Sox Nation, or whatever you want to call it. His fielding is a source of great amusement for me though.

  54. Grayfox on August 4th, 2007 7:31 pm

    So, is he just goin to throw fastballs past everyone tonight.

  55. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Our announcers crack me up, sometimes.

    “… had something that’s a little unique.”

    I do not think you know what unique means, sir.

  56. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 7:32 pm

    #53

    Yeah, gotta admit the whole Red Sox Nation thing is obnoxious.

  57. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 7:36 pm

    Congrats, Barry.

  58. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 7:37 pm

    *

  59. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 7:37 pm

    So, Mariner fans, how’s that Heathcliff Slocumb trade working out for ya? :-)

  60. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 7:38 pm

    Wow. I love how when they just showed Bonds tying the record, they decided not to use sound. Weak.

  61. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 7:38 pm

    Go Bonds!

    Matsuzaka’s windup is so weird.

    GO BELTRE!!!

  62. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 7:39 pm

    SWUNG ON AND BELTRED!

  63. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 7:39 pm

    #52

    I can appreciate that perspective but when that ball went under Buckner’s glove that made a believer out of me as far as the curse goes.

  64. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 7:40 pm

    ADDDDRRRRRIIIAAAAN!!!

  65. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 7:41 pm

    Wow. I almost just spelled the word whether as wether and found out the word wether means: a castrated male sheep.

  66. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 7:42 pm

    Congrats, Barry.

  67. argh on August 4th, 2007 7:42 pm

    So, Mariner fans, how’s that Heathcliff Slocumb trade working out for ya?

    Better than Andersen for Bagwell.

  68. BillPhi2 on August 4th, 2007 7:42 pm

    I dunno. I guess when someone proves to me that every pitcher Barry took yard was clean, I’ll think he deserves an asterisk. Why he deserves to symbolize steroid use (legal and not against MLB policy at the time) is beyond my comprehension.

    There. Now someone can yell “but he cheated!” and feel morally superior to me for turning a blind eye to the destruction of the blah blah blah.

  69. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 7:43 pm

    Way to go, Beltre!

    Hope you were watching Raul fail in front of him, Mac!

  70. thenatural on August 4th, 2007 7:43 pm

    63… its called pressure, some people choke. Curses are for lame fans who don’t want to have to root for their team until they’re good (aka 95% of the red sox nation)

  71. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 7:45 pm

    Dave N. just got about a hundred points from me for mentioning the incredible play Beltre got robbed on last week.

  72. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 7:47 pm

    Richie would’ve made that play ;)

  73. Notor on August 4th, 2007 7:48 pm

    Well at least Sexson’s on the bench. Not only was he driving the team out of business he was doing it to that poor bar downtown.

  74. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 7:49 pm

    Yah, but I think not having a guy that’ll strike out half the time and pop up the rest in the lineup is a good thing. :P

  75. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 7:59 pm

    Vidro … our “Single or nothing” DH. Sigh.

  76. krb on August 4th, 2007 7:59 pm

    I’ll take a single..

  77. dotcomse on August 4th, 2007 7:59 pm

    I guess that’s a single then, huh 75?

  78. Teej on August 4th, 2007 8:00 pm

    Nobody’s catching Turbo!

  79. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 8:00 pm

    MYYYYYY TUUUUUURRRRRRRBBBOOOOOO LOOOOOOOOVAAAAAHHHH

  80. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:00 pm

    Yep, just like last night with 2 runners on … a single and NO RBI. I can’t stand our DH – we have to use a real one at some point.

  81. krb on August 4th, 2007 8:01 pm

    Atleast a single isn’t an out.

  82. BillPhi2 on August 4th, 2007 8:02 pm

    Yay for veteran leadership!

    /sarcasm

  83. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:02 pm

    81: You got me there.

  84. SebPruiti on August 4th, 2007 8:03 pm

    This probably has already been mentioned…but…with a win, we take over the wildcard.

  85. Notor on August 4th, 2007 8:03 pm

    A man on 2nd isn’t in scoring position when Vidro is at the plate, and that’s a big problem. Note tonights game and yesterdays game, where he’s loaded the bases instead of scoring a run with his weak singles. 2 runs lost there at least.

  86. BillPhi2 on August 4th, 2007 8:04 pm

    I’m so glad Mac is happy with Raul.

  87. Chris88 on August 4th, 2007 8:04 pm

    47 –

    Even if Ibanez is -10 with his bat (pretty bad) he’s also -25 with his glove. -3.5 wins. Pretty bad, and even worse than our FO tends to think he is worth.

  88. David* on August 4th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Way to waste an appearance of JLo on the basebaths.

  89. dotcomse on August 4th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Raul owes us some U’s… And some RBIs, for that matter.

  90. David* on August 4th, 2007 8:04 pm

    er, paths.

  91. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Thank god for veteran grit. Imagine if we’d had a rookie up there… could have been so much worse. They might have taken our run away.

  92. Julie on August 4th, 2007 8:06 pm

    The Nickname Has Gone to Hell

    A rant on Dice-K’s nickname.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19620053/site/newsweek/

  93. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 8:06 pm

    Umm, why gripe about a Turbo single when neither Guillen or Ibanez produced anything behind him?

  94. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:06 pm

    #80

    My boss told me that Vidro is a good clubhouse presence and has a nice approach at the plate.

  95. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:08 pm

    Jeepers, this pisses me off. Our starting DH has … a grand total of 18 (EIGHTEEN) extra base hits 2/3rds of the way through the year and a grand total of 35 RBIs. Who, and why, are the people supporting him? He gives us so much less than we have a legitimate right to expect … at a cost of $8 million. You Turbo Lovers – show me anything that justifies him being a part of this lineup – use primary, secondary, tertiary or made up stats to convince me.

  96. Spanky on August 4th, 2007 8:08 pm

    Anyone notice that Rauuuul is O-fer Boston this year? 0-12 with 2 BB…0-5 vs. DiceK.

    Mmmm…Ibañez or Jones? Ibañez or Jones???

    In the immortal words of Ron Fairly: Tough call there!

  97. dotcomse on August 4th, 2007 8:09 pm

    As much as we harp on Ibanez, that was PAINFUL to watch…

  98. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 8:09 pm

    93 – Why are they mutually exclusive?

  99. tgf on August 4th, 2007 8:09 pm

    96-timely comment, all things considered.

  100. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 8:09 pm

    Washburn has to keep the ball down low.

  101. Notor on August 4th, 2007 8:09 pm

    Okay, after that last double that should’ve been an out, how can it not be obvious to -anyone- that Raul has no business in LF?

  102. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:10 pm

    That undervalued defense just reared its ugly head, too. That definitely cost at least second base.

  103. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Fishiam, get with the times. The hate is on Ibanez now.

  104. GTcolin on August 4th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Now I understand that Ibanez sucks, and it would be nice for him to get a hit with two outs and runners in scoring position every once in a while, Guillen’s AB was worse, all he had to do was hit a flyball to any of the weak arms in the boston outfield and a run would’ve scored

  105. krb on August 4th, 2007 8:11 pm

    Richie is sharing some of the hate though..

  106. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:11 pm

    #95

    I can’t give you any of that because I have a Stockholm Syndrome like loyalty to Vidro.

  107. dotcomse on August 4th, 2007 8:12 pm

    Washburn’s losin’ it!!!

  108. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:14 pm

    103: Maybe it ought to start focusing its laser-like attention on one Jose Lopez, cause that guy has some serious OPS issues lately as well (And just how do the M’s keep wining with all these holes in their order?!)

  109. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 8:15 pm

    104 – No doubt about that. For me, though, it’s the collective veteran grit displayed by our 2,3 and 4 hitters there.

    I love winning, don’t mind losing, love clutch hits, don’t mind clutch failure… but I hate, hate, hate not putting the team in the best position to win.

    So I don’t really blame any of them for failing there, I just blame management for not fielding the best team we can.

  110. GTcolin on August 4th, 2007 8:18 pm

    109- I would say that at bat is just another example of the flawed argument the front office uses about the advantages of veterans, a strikeout there is a rookie mistake, a veteran should know you have to put the ball in play at all costs

  111. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 8:18 pm

    TEK!!!!!!1

  112. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:19 pm

    Does that give Raul a negative OPS?

  113. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 8:20 pm

    Manny is out by a mile if Betancourt makes any kind of a throw.

  114. tgf on August 4th, 2007 8:21 pm

    112-not that play, but others.

  115. Spanky on August 4th, 2007 8:22 pm

    How the heck does Manny freaking Ramirez score from first?

    Unbelievable!!

  116. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 8:24 pm

    He was running on the 3-2 pitch. Still a slow LF + a lousy throw by Yuni = Manny scoring from first.

  117. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 8:24 pm

    110 – Agreed. If Jones “the rookie” had done that, we would be hearing about it, for sure.

  118. enazario on August 4th, 2007 8:24 pm

    I realize that freedom of expression is as American as apple pie but are there any other subjects besides Vidro and Ibanez on this blog? Not that I disagree with the sentiment but enough already.

  119. SebPruiti on August 4th, 2007 8:24 pm

    I am watching the Giants game on my TV and the Mariners game on my computer…why is Dane Cook doing MLB commercials?

  120. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:25 pm

    This game is far from over guys, until they win one, the Sox have a mental block in Safeco, there waiting to lose this game somehow

  121. David* on August 4th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Ben>lint>Sexson

  122. enazario on August 4th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Cuz Dane Cook will do anything for a buck.

  123. SebPruiti on August 4th, 2007 8:26 pm

    I think Ben would have been able to get to third there if he was running right out of the box…Manny was jogging to that ball.

  124. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 8:27 pm

    118. Sexson.

  125. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:28 pm

    The fricking ballgirl just cancelled out her nice play by giving the ball to a kid decked head-to-toe in Red Sox gear. Is there a ball girl kangaroo court?

  126. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:28 pm

    Sorry 123 , Ichiro wouldnt have gotten to third on that, you dont hit too many triples to left field

  127. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:28 pm

    I THOUGHT THE EXACT SAME THING 125!! GOOD CALL

  128. David* on August 4th, 2007 8:28 pm

    First Vidro then Kenji, amazing.

  129. enazario on August 4th, 2007 8:28 pm

    That should be the law. No free balls to traitors.

  130. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 8:29 pm

    123: No way. Running is a relative term when talking about Broussard.

  131. Notor on August 4th, 2007 8:30 pm

    108 – That’s a very good question. It defies all logic that the Mariners are where they are now, ahead of Detroit (let me repeat that: DETROIT, probably one of the 3 best teams in baseball right now)when we are not fielding a very good team at all right now.

    Sabermetrics tells us that the Mariners are, in fact, a worse team than Oakland, and should have a worse record then they do. Yet we’ve been kicking their ass this year. Is it because of team chemistry? I don’t think so, we’ve just been fortunate that our poor stats haven’t managed to cost us as many games as they should have, and that will stop happening eventually, so we should take the steps we can to increase our winning potential.

    Also, Washburn is crumbling in the 4th AGAIN, is anyone surprised? But that’s our #2 starter for you.

  132. SebPruiti on August 4th, 2007 8:30 pm

    No Double Play, No Double Play, No Double Play, No Double Play, No Double Play, No Double Play…

  133. enazario on August 4th, 2007 8:30 pm

    DAMN IT!

  134. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:30 pm

    Who couldn’t see *that* coming?

  135. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:31 pm

    I went to a Red Sox – Mariners game at Safeco once and there were no Mariners fans at the game.

  136. SebPruiti on August 4th, 2007 8:31 pm

    CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!

  137. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:31 pm

    Most difficult Mariners to watch at bat:

    Sexson

  138. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:31 pm

    You might be right 131, I guess you have to look at the fact that we might have the best bullpen in baseball, and our offense, while full of holes, is very timely.

  139. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 8:31 pm

    Good going, Seb!!!

  140. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:32 pm

    131 — Washburn should have been facing Ramirez with two out and no one on. Instead, it was Ortiz on second and one out, and obvious pitch-around Manny-situation. His “crumbling” could have entirely been avoided by competent outfield defense.

  141. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:32 pm

    Hmmm, my post got cut for some reason (involving “

  142. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:32 pm

    Yeah Sexson is flailing away at the ball like Jeffrey Leonard when he was a Mariner. Yikes.

  143. hcoguy on August 4th, 2007 8:32 pm

    137. Lopez right now. Richie is very easy to watch on the bench when the camera shows him. Lopez causes me to look away.

  144. dislocated on August 4th, 2007 8:34 pm

    The only time “little jose lopez” doesn’t hit an infield pop up is when there is a possibility to GIDP. This team is sooo frustrating…

  145. SequimRealEstate on August 4th, 2007 8:35 pm

    Well Mac, if you were to do the suicide squeeze with
    Jose with only 1 out this would have been the time.
    Surprise is the key double play is what happened.

  146. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 8:35 pm

    108 – The serious answer to your question re: Lopez, is that there isn’t a readily available alternative to Lopez.

    For my part, talking about underforming players is only really interesting in the context of what the team should be doing differently.

    Raul’s defense and hitting is ten times as frustrating because we have Adam Jones right there. There is no real easy fix to Lopez that I’m aware of.

    Same reason why I almost never complain about the starting pitching… not a lot to do about that this trading deadline, and won’t be until the off season. (The exception being discussing previous baffling moves, I’ll do that time to time.)

  147. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:35 pm

    Wow, this site does not like “less than” character. Anyhoo, what I’ve been trying to say is that the most difficult M’s to watch at bat are

    1. Sexson
    2. Lopez
    3. Ibanez
    4. Vidro

    Rare is the good outcome.

  148. Teej on August 4th, 2007 8:36 pm

    Jose can’t bunt.

  149. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:36 pm

    My boss told me that Lopez doesn’t square around on suicide squeeze bunts very well.

  150. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:36 pm

    144, is that what you were saying last year when Jose was an all-star? he’s just going through a rough stretch, besides, instead of saying what a horrible player he is, why dont you suggest what you think the M’s should do about it? There is not a better option right now for second base, he’s a good player.

  151. jefffrane on August 4th, 2007 8:37 pm

    If the two bozos in the press box have noticed that Richie isn’t hitting too well, we’re making progress. “I’m sure that Mac is going to get Richie back in there as soon as he learns how to hit the baseball. . . ”

    Maybe Richie could hang out in Tacoma for awhile.

  152. Notor on August 4th, 2007 8:37 pm

    140- Yea it’s mostly Raul’s fault, but Washburn is putting way too many balls in the air, and that’s going to happen eventually, or they’re just going to hit it out of the park.

    Unfortunately there’s Ibanez in LF to make sure those all land in the right places. Right places being anywhere more than 20 feet from him.

    Ground balls Washburn….ground balls.

  153. dislocated on August 4th, 2007 8:38 pm

    147-
    LJL jumped to the top of my list after the failed bunt attempt with the squeeze on the other night. I have to admit I friggin lost it

  154. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:38 pm

    I am not frustrated with this team at all. I am still amazed that they have a fighting chance here in the beginning of August.

  155. GTcolin on August 4th, 2007 8:38 pm

    146- we could always play Bloomquist at second everyday…(only half joking)

  156. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 8:38 pm

    If someone had told me before the season started that Felix would miss a month and only have 7 wins by August, Weaver and Ramirez over 6.00+ ERAs, and Sexson hitting below the Mendoza line I would have predicted a disastrous season.

  157. SequimRealEstate on August 4th, 2007 8:40 pm

    I know he can’t bunt well but if Mac was going to do it with 5 infielders and every one was looking for it at least in this situation it had the element of surprise. Execution that is some thing else.

  158. dislocated on August 4th, 2007 8:40 pm

    Exactly 156…

    That’s what makes this such an amazing and frustrating (at times) season. Can you imagine the damage we could be doing if Richie and Co. started hitting?

  159. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 8:41 pm

    153 – More upset with Mac about that than Lopez, myself.

    155 – Well, that’s one way to learn how to appreciate Jose again.

  160. tgf on August 4th, 2007 8:42 pm

    That’s what makes this such an amazing and frustrating (at times) season. Can you imagine the damage we could be doing if Richie and Co. started hitting?

    And also we played our best players on a regular basis?

  161. BigB on August 4th, 2007 8:42 pm

    158… it is especially hard because for his career, Sexson hits best in the 2nd half, I believe especially August. But I don’t see him breaking out of his slump this year. It’s hard to watch.

  162. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:44 pm

    Hopefully Richie keeps things in perspective. No matter how much he gets booed and jeered he is still walking home with 11 million dollars in his pockets this year!

  163. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:45 pm

    11? I thought it was 15 million

  164. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:45 pm

    There’s the replay of the Bonds HR 755. You know the biggest indictment of that guy? That I couldn’t care less that I missed it when it happened.

  165. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:46 pm

    #163

    oops, make that 15 million if you say so. I don’t know I was just guessing.

  166. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:46 pm

    162 – I think Richie would give a lot of that back if he could lose the Cirillosis.

  167. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:47 pm

    Atta boy Jose!!

  168. David* on August 4th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Come on Guillen, show us what a gritty, proven, veteran can do.

  169. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Richie is going to go hunting and fishing with Ryan Leaf this offseason.

  170. JR Ewing on August 4th, 2007 8:48 pm

    how’s this for karma, since guillen mouthed off about adam jones . . . 4 strikeouts, and has hit into 2 double plays

  171. jefffrane on August 4th, 2007 8:49 pm

    Does anyone know for sure if Turbo has changed his plate discipline? When he was the king of GIDP, did he grab his balls before every pitch? It seems to be working for him now.

  172. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 8:49 pm

    I remember when Aaron was chasing Ruth’s record. It was the biggest story in the country for weeks leading up to it and everyone was talking about it. I don’t know anyone now who gives a damn about Bonds breaking the record.

  173. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:49 pm

    Here’s a question (perhaps covered previously): since Guillen is wearing #6, which numbers does that make as unofficially retired for the M’s? As best I can figure, it’s 11, 14, 19, and 24. Any others?

  174. tgf on August 4th, 2007 8:49 pm

    Those gritty, veteran strikeouts are good for chemistry.

  175. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:50 pm

    They had to take down the Fox Box for a pitch. It was beautiful.

  176. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 8:50 pm

    I cared, and was happy I got a chance to witness it the record being tied.

  177. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:51 pm

    Unlike that strikeout.

  178. argh on August 4th, 2007 8:51 pm

    Guillen’s not exactly walking the veteran walk out there tonight. Fortunately, he’s family.

  179. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 8:51 pm

    Has Guillen even put the ball in play yet since whining about Jones being brought up?

  180. BigB on August 4th, 2007 8:51 pm

    #173… what about the Big Unit/Ichiro combo of 51? I know Ichiro! is still playing, but if he wasn’t, wouldn’t Randy’s 51 be on that list?

  181. jefffrane on August 4th, 2007 8:52 pm

    Sims always seems more excited when the opposing pitcher makes a great play. “Shut. Him. Down!”

    I have to admit, I don’t mind baseball color guys who are unabashedly partisan.

  182. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 8:53 pm

    Here’s a suggestion: Have AJ pinch hit for Guillen the next time around the lineup – let Guillen be grateful to AJ for saving him from wearing the golden sombrero.

  183. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 8:54 pm

    Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooukilis

  184. tgf on August 4th, 2007 8:54 pm

    Here’s a suggestion: Have AJ pinch hit for Guillen the next time around the lineup – let Guillen be grateful to AJ for saving him from wearing the golden sombrero.

    Fan, meet shit. Shit, the fan.

  185. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:55 pm

    183 – Nice of Sims to mention that since he plays for our team. Or not.

  186. JJD on August 4th, 2007 8:56 pm

    That was a great fricking play until he didn’t just lob it into second. What was that?

  187. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Not Guillen’s best game…

  188. dbixby on August 4th, 2007 8:57 pm

    I am mad that our fans are cheering

  189. JR Ewing on August 4th, 2007 8:57 pm

    add another k and an error to the karma ticker for guillen

  190. JMB on August 4th, 2007 8:59 pm

    Put Jones in the corner. Either corner. Doesn’t matter.

  191. JG on August 4th, 2007 9:00 pm

    Mac’s a sadist. Getting painful. Can’t believe Wash is still in.

  192. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 9:00 pm

    190… with a little dunce cap on his head?

  193. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 9:00 pm

    184: your potty mouth obscures any sense you might have which appears to be exceedingly vanishing.

  194. terry on August 4th, 2007 9:00 pm

    188: I’m guessing the sellout has alot to do with Boston being in town….

  195. Teej on August 4th, 2007 9:01 pm

    Seriously, does Raul not wear cleats? He always looks like he’s slipping. Or rollerskating.

  196. JJD on August 4th, 2007 9:01 pm

    191 – He’s surely decided to put off the bullpen as long as possible after last night’s game. I can’t say I blame him, actually.

  197. John in L.A. on August 4th, 2007 9:01 pm

    Every game Jones doesn’t start is an embarrassing indictment of management.

    This season is a rare, rare opportunity. If they squander it by being stupid, they all deserve to lose their jobs.

    How much clearer can it be that Jones should be in that outfield?

  198. tgf on August 4th, 2007 9:03 pm

    193-Easy there, I was pointing out that the shit would hit the fan. Not talking about you.

  199. krb on August 4th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Wake up offense.

  200. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 9:05 pm

    #197

    I am now convinced that the State of Washington is becoming an extension of California so whether the Mariners win or lose I think they are going to be a real money maker for a long time.

  201. jefffrane on August 4th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Watching Ibanez in left field is painful. He has to be the only person in MLB who makes Manny look good in left field.

    I concede to a level of ambiguity watching these games. I want the M’s to succeed, but at the same time, every game they win is plus for the Yankees.

  202. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:06 pm

    It’s not over yet. Maybe they’ll put Timlin in.

  203. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:06 pm

    Well I guess Mac is just going to give up this game so he can rest the bullpen for tomorrow, otherwise he would’ve taken Washburn out. HoRam gave them quite a workout yesterday.

  204. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 9:07 pm

    I pitch my bullpen everyday in MVP Baseball 2005 for the Xbox. First sign of trouble after 5 and that’s it. :)

  205. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 9:07 pm

    198: ok, peace out. The statement just looked mighty odd from this perspective.

  206. krb on August 4th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Only way hes gonna get on..

  207. apunetid on August 4th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Hitting Ibanez = big mistake

  208. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Appealing your own checked swings is the fifth level of goofy

  209. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 9:10 pm

    #208

    Gotta admit THAT was funny.

  210. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Here’s our last chance to get in this game, lets go Ben!!

  211. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:11 pm

    Big Bennie!

  212. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 9:12 pm

    Ben, lookin like Richie

  213. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:12 pm

    Son of a #@$^#&

  214. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 9:12 pm

    Big Ben: “Hey Guys! Look at me! I’m Richie Sexson!”

    Ugh.

  215. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 9:12 pm

    Why do I keep hoping to see Pineiro down there when they show the Bosox bullpen and who’s warming up?

  216. Axtell on August 4th, 2007 9:13 pm

    That base at first must be cursed….

  217. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Maybe Kenji’ll crush another one…nope.

  218. I_Bleed_Mariner_Blue on August 4th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Piniero got the start for st. louis today

  219. krb on August 4th, 2007 9:13 pm

    First base has become what third was a few years ago.

  220. apunetid on August 4th, 2007 9:15 pm

    We’re relly missing a lot of opportunities here.

  221. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 9:16 pm

    @##@#@#$#$#$@

  222. JJD on August 4th, 2007 9:16 pm

    That was looking like some Little League-quality strike zone judgement, there.

  223. Teej on August 4th, 2007 9:16 pm

    I swear, the same inning is happening over and over again.

  224. Ace on August 4th, 2007 9:17 pm

    208,
    Lets get this straight, Adrian Beltre has never appealed to the first base ump on a checked swing call. Neither has any catcher. The plate ump is the only one that can make an appeal. Think of it this way, is the base ump going to overrule the ump behind the plate because a player asks him to?

  225. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Let’s go Rally Fry Magic!

    +2 power +3 speed plz k thx.

  226. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:19 pm

    So we’re now 1-7 with runners on base. Neat.

    I blame Vidro. Well…and Guillen….and Lopez….well okay it’s probably a combination of all three.

  227. Teej on August 4th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Ace, that’s kinda the whole reason it’s funny. Relax.

  228. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Looks like the Red Sox are going to break their Safeco Field curse tonight.

  229. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 9:24 pm

    How are there so many Red Sox fans at the safe???

  230. Ace on August 4th, 2007 9:24 pm

    Teej, exactly.

    But I’ve seen many a commentor rag on Beltre, thinking that somehow he’s going to get a himself an extra strike for his faux appeal.

  231. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:26 pm

    229:

    Because they bought tickets.

  232. SMK on August 4th, 2007 9:26 pm

    229 – There’s Red Sox fans everywhere. Sort of like there’s Yankees fans everywhere.

  233. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 9:27 pm

    I’ve seen many commentator say Wow, that is goofy that Beltre tries to appeal his own check swings or something like that.

  234. Teej on August 4th, 2007 9:27 pm

    Ace, I hear you.

  235. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:27 pm

    224: It was a humorous aside. But thanks for the buzzkill.

  236. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:28 pm

    Because a ton of people who live nowhere near Boston and have never been to a Boston home game are poser Red Sox fans. They suck.

    Rowland-Smith looked excellent by the way.

  237. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:29 pm

    232 – Whoa whoa whoa what’s with the profanity? We don’t say the Y-word here.

  238. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    U-Knee!

  239. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    YUNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

  240. Ace on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    235:
    My pleasure.

    Yuni blast!

  241. ndrfx on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Yunibomber getting it done.

  242. krb on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Damn whats gotten into Yuni? I like it.

  243. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Anybody know how many pitches Dies-K has thrown?

  244. Corey on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Comrade Yuniesky!

  245. apunetid on August 4th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Oh dear: Betancourt’s string of 6 straight go-ahead homers has come to an end!

  246. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 9:31 pm

    YUUUUUNNNNIIIIII!!!!

  247. Teej on August 4th, 2007 9:31 pm

    Anybody know how many pitches Dies-K has thrown?

    99

  248. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:31 pm

    This is the worst strike zone I’ve seen in a long time. Wth was that?

  249. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 9:33 pm

    Well, to be both positive and balanced … the easiest Mariners to watch bat these days

    1. Beltre
    2. Ichiro
    3. Betancourt
    4. Broussard

    At least, that’s my list.

  250. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 9:34 pm

    It seemed like to me that Wash was getting squeezed, yet Dice-K is getting everything under the sun called.

  251. The Unknown Comic on August 4th, 2007 9:35 pm

    #250

    The ump is a member of the Red Sox Nation.

  252. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:36 pm

    Sombrero!

  253. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:36 pm

    Lack of team chemistry has clearly disrupted Guillen’s inner zen.

  254. JJD on August 4th, 2007 9:36 pm

    Sims drops a Golden Sombrero on Guillen. Ouch.

  255. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 9:36 pm

    And as warned … the golden sombrero … Jose, you shoulda called upon your rookie call up …

  256. SMK on August 4th, 2007 9:36 pm

    237 – Heh, my bad. Should we refer to them as the Team-That-Must-Not-Be-Named, ala Harry Potter?

  257. tgf on August 4th, 2007 9:37 pm

    Love that Sims actually pointed out the Golden Sombrero.

  258. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 9:37 pm

    Yep, probably the worst game of Guillen’s career.

  259. Teej on August 4th, 2007 9:37 pm

    “I hope he understands that this isn’t AAA.”

  260. apunetid on August 4th, 2007 9:38 pm

    253: sounds like an Ichiro quote

  261. JJD on August 4th, 2007 9:42 pm

    Sweet bender there by RR-S.

  262. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:44 pm

    How do we keep coming up with good young arms in the bullpen? And why don’t we have any in the starting rotation outside of Felix?

  263. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 9:45 pm

    Here’s Ibanez’s chance to spark a rally … Right? I’m trying to muster up every positive vibe I have.

  264. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:45 pm

    Gagne. Yikes.

  265. GTcolin on August 4th, 2007 9:47 pm

    Is their another lefty clean-up hitter in the league that doesn’t warrant a lefty specialist in the 8th inning of a 2 run game?

  266. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:47 pm

    Gagne vs Ibanez in the 8th just isn’t even fair.

  267. BillPhi2 on August 4th, 2007 9:48 pm

    That was a veteran leader-like strikeout.

  268. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:48 pm

    259 – Well if he’s watching Guillen tonight he might get confused and think it’s AA.

  269. Axtell on August 4th, 2007 9:48 pm

    Any idea why Jones didn’t PH for Ibanez right there?

  270. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 9:50 pm

    I think our only chance of seeing a PH appearance would have been against a lefty. That’s probably why they didn’t bring in a lefty. They’re scared of Jones.

  271. krb on August 4th, 2007 9:50 pm

    269- Mac.

  272. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:50 pm

    Did they say that Jones is starting in CF tomorrow with Ichiro DH’ing?

  273. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 9:51 pm

    Or it could just be Mac.

  274. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 9:52 pm

    272 – That is indeed what Baker says.

  275. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 9:52 pm

    269 – You have to save somebody in case the game goes extra innings.

  276. JJD on August 4th, 2007 9:52 pm

    Sweet. Let’s see Kenji get a first pitch FB.

  277. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 9:52 pm

    Nice Broussard base hit, further proving he should be the starting at first base.

  278. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:53 pm

    274: Ah, good. I thought I heard that. I’ll be at the game tomorrow.

  279. Teej on August 4th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Nice adjustment to the always-nasty Gagne change-up.

  280. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Kenji’s gotta jack this or we’re done methinks.

  281. Ace on August 4th, 2007 9:54 pm

    270:
    That could be, but its more likely because they aren’t scared of Raul.

  282. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 9:54 pm

    280 – Not neccessarily, Papelbon could still blow it.

  283. GTcolin on August 4th, 2007 9:54 pm

    I suspect if Johjima gets on Jones will hit for Lopez

  284. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:55 pm

    Kenji!

  285. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:55 pm

    Yes!

  286. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:55 pm

    WOOO GOOD OL’ KENJI.

    Now let’s see some Jones please.

  287. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 9:56 pm

    YO JOH!!!

  288. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Joh jacked it aiight, just not far enough for a HR. I’ll take it though.

  289. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 9:56 pm

    KENJI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YA TA!!!!!!!

  290. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 9:56 pm

    283 – Oh how I wish you were right.

  291. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:56 pm

    Sweet!

  292. Notor on August 4th, 2007 9:57 pm

    God bless you Manny Ramirez and your atrocious defense.

  293. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 9:57 pm

    2-OUT RALLY BIACTH!!!!

  294. krb on August 4th, 2007 9:57 pm

    LOPEZ! Yuni time!

  295. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 9:57 pm

    Just kidding. I knew Lopez was going to get a hit.

    … finally.

  296. JJD on August 4th, 2007 9:57 pm

    I was about to bust on Lopez, so I should give some MAD PROPS for that one.

  297. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 9:57 pm

    DAMN!!! Bloomie could’ve scored!!!!

  298. Ace on August 4th, 2007 9:58 pm

    Do they walk Yuni here to get to Ichiro? Unlikely.

  299. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 9:58 pm

    And up comes the Yunibomber! If the Red Sox lose this game they may need therapy to get over Safeco syndrome.

  300. Axtell on August 4th, 2007 9:58 pm

    I’m not watching the game, watching it on gamecast, exactly why didn’t Willie score? Shouldn’t he have been running on contact?

  301. tgf on August 4th, 2007 9:58 pm

    298-Good one.

  302. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 9:59 pm

    Heh heh…Bucky.

  303. JJD on August 4th, 2007 9:59 pm

    Crud. Guillen gets a shot at redemption in the 9th, though.

  304. David* on August 4th, 2007 9:59 pm

    Dang. Well at least now we’re within one run.

    Ben Broussard, the new Ignitor? Gritty single and stolen base!

  305. Bodhizefa on August 4th, 2007 10:00 pm

    Wasn’t the whole point of bringing in a pinch runner such that he should score on, you know, a frikkin’ double!?

    WFB for the loss. :(

  306. krb on August 4th, 2007 10:01 pm

    Bucky Jacobson.. is he still playing?

  307. DAMellen on August 4th, 2007 10:01 pm

    What’s up with those commercials? Does anybody even know who Bucky Jacobsen is anymore?

  308. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:01 pm

    300 Doesn’t matter if Willie was running on contact. Manny played the ball off the wall perfectly as he did against the Johjima single as well.

  309. Bodhizefa on August 4th, 2007 10:02 pm

    Does Guillen get to hit or will he be pinch hit for?

  310. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 10:02 pm

    I couldn’t tell from the camera angle if Willie had a legit shot at home.

  311. tgf on August 4th, 2007 10:02 pm

    Not all doubles are created equal. A good throw would have gotten Bloomie by a mile.

  312. GTcolin on August 4th, 2007 10:03 pm

    My question is, why was Bloomquist pinch running if Jones wasn’t going to be used as the hitter there? Isn’t Jones faster? Hopefully Mac is saving him to pinch hit for the Guillen and his big sombrero.

  313. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 10:03 pm

    Yea, we got Ichiro, Vidro and Guillen coming up, we could get a rally started. Atleast getting Ichiro on base, then him stealing 2nd, then being bunted to third, and then base hit to drive ichiro home to tie the game.

  314. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 10:04 pm

    It looked like Willie could’ve had a chance to score, but it would’ve been a close play at the plate. A gamble worth taking, I would think.

  315. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:04 pm

    Plus the ball hit off Lopez was a screamer. Tough break on Johjima single, a little more air and that would have been a 2 run funk blast.

  316. Notor on August 4th, 2007 10:04 pm

    Has there been a hit to right field against us in the past 10 games? It doesn’t seem like it.

  317. Axtell on August 4th, 2007 10:05 pm

    316-

    Didn’t Guillen have a throwing error tonight on a ball hit to right?

  318. beck21 on August 4th, 2007 10:05 pm

    316 – How about the one Guillen sent into the stands earlier after taking it on a short hop?

  319. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:05 pm

    Willie didn’t have a chance. I do not think it would have been close unless Bloomie was planning on steamrolling Varitek. Advantage Varitek.

  320. tgf on August 4th, 2007 10:06 pm

    319-Still, I might want to see that.

  321. JJD on August 4th, 2007 10:07 pm

    306 – Bucky played nine games in the Mexican League, but that’s all BA has on him.

    316 – There *was* that one where Guillen airmailed the throw in for the Sox’ third run.

  322. David* on August 4th, 2007 10:07 pm

    309:

    I think Guillen would go nuclear, let’s recap his night if that were to happen:

    Phase 1: 4 Ks
    Phase 2: Dice-K plunks two Ms, no Sox have yet been plunked.
    Phase 3: Adam Jones pinch-hits for Guillen and hits the walk-off 672 feet.
    Phase 4: Hostage situation in the clubhouse after the game. A pregnant Angie Mentik negotiates a successful release.

  323. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:08 pm

    320 Yeah if you want to see Bloomie take a trip to the DL. Varitek is a pretty big guy last time I checked. :)

  324. chbrody on August 4th, 2007 10:08 pm

    The M’s have been scoring off of the top closers lately, i.e. K-Rod, Street and Gagne. There’s a chance in the bottom of the 9th if they keep it within 1.

  325. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 10:08 pm

    Jose Guillen has a chance to tie a very dubious record …the platinum sombrero (5 strikeouts) in a nine inning game.. You’re the manager … do you let him bat?

  326. chbrody on August 4th, 2007 10:08 pm

    Morrow better be starting next year. No ifs, ands or buts about it!

  327. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 10:08 pm

    A buddy of mine played against Bucky in a softball game this summer. He’s still hoping to come back from injuries but I think he’s done.

  328. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 10:08 pm

    Morrow V2.0 looking good again!

  329. Puffer on August 4th, 2007 10:09 pm

    Morrow throwing the heat!

  330. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:09 pm

    Bullpen is practically lights out tonight. Now the offense needs to make it worthwhile.

  331. chbrody on August 4th, 2007 10:09 pm

    Fishiam, who else are you gonna have bat, AJ? It would be him or Richie, and I think we know the latter won’t get in.

  332. tgf on August 4th, 2007 10:10 pm

    323-Everything you say is true. And yet….

  333. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 10:10 pm

    I just hope they keep a camera trained on the dugout if Guillen gets pulled for AJ. ESPN might have to do a mini-series called “Sodo is Burning” shortly.

  334. chbrody on August 4th, 2007 10:11 pm

    Bucky was THE biggest a-hole back in the day. I played against him in Legon ball. He was about 80 lbs. lighter too. Maybe the juice didn’t treat him as well as he hoped.

  335. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:12 pm

    Cut the crap Ichiro just tie it here. You’re due a HR anyways.

  336. chbrody on August 4th, 2007 10:13 pm

    Does anyone else think that Pappelbon looks like Private Pyle from ‘Full Metal Jacket’?

  337. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 10:14 pm

    Ouch.

  338. Axtell on August 4th, 2007 10:14 pm

    Any else imagine Guillen pulling a George Brett Pine Tar Incident if he gets pulled for AJ?

  339. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:14 pm

    I had a feeling Ichiro was going K after he took the second strike.

  340. chbrody on August 4th, 2007 10:15 pm

    Since when does Vidro swing @ the first pitch?

  341. Notor on August 4th, 2007 10:16 pm

    Cmon Vidro we need a home run!

    Made myself laugh with that one.

  342. tgf on August 4th, 2007 10:16 pm

    336-Yeah, I can see that. A bit skinnier, though.

  343. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 10:16 pm

    Guillen vs. Papelbon. I don’t like our chances.

  344. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 10:17 pm

    OK Jose, time to put your money where your mouth is.

  345. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 10:17 pm

    Wow, that was surprising … our singles hitting monster of a DH … strikes out.

  346. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:17 pm

    Papelbon is filthy tonight.

  347. Axtell on August 4th, 2007 10:17 pm

    341-

    heh you aren’t the only one. How does a guy with absolutely no power this year get to keep his job as DH? Does he have incriminating photos of Bavasi somewhere?

  348. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Guillen can redeem himself right here.

  349. Notor on August 4th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Is there anything worse than the golden sombrero? Stay tuned, Guillen is about to find out.

  350. Gomez on August 4th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Sims just called Guillen ‘Jose Vidro’.

    DEREK KINZLER!!!!!

  351. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Guillen looks like Sexson with that last swing. Wasn’t even close.

  352. krb on August 4th, 2007 10:18 pm

    There ya go Guillen, just dont swing.

  353. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:19 pm

    If Guillen somehow manages to walk you’d have to PH Jones for Ibanez, right?

  354. chbrody on August 4th, 2007 10:20 pm

    atta boy!!!!

  355. rsrobinson on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    That’s the best we could have hoped for.

  356. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Nope, Jones PR for Gullien

  357. Notor on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    ADAM JONES?!?!?!

    AFTER THE AT BAT?!?!?

  358. JJD on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Glad to see AJ, but he should be hitting, not running.

  359. David* on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Raul……..I wish I had hope for this encounter.

  360. cgmonk on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    @353

    Nope, he will run for Guillen.

  361. krb on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    No, you use him in Guillens place if your Mac.

  362. BillPhi2 on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Apparently you let AJ run. Why take the bat out of the hands of a veteran leader? /snark

  363. GTcolin on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Well, Jones is in the game, just not where he needs to be

  364. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Well, AJ is in… now let’s go Raul!!!!

  365. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:22 pm

    OMG Ibanez

  366. thefin190 on August 4th, 2007 10:22 pm

    OK Raul, prove that you still deserve a starting job.

  367. Notor on August 4th, 2007 10:22 pm

    Way to go AJ…but you should be batting right now.

  368. fishiam on August 4th, 2007 10:22 pm

    Why the FUCK is AJ running for Guillen instead of PHing for hopeless Ibanez?

  369. Teej on August 4th, 2007 10:23 pm

    Man. He fast.

  370. jeffinfremont on August 4th, 2007 10:25 pm

    Wow, that was anticlimactic.

  371. The Ancient Mariner on August 4th, 2007 10:25 pm

    Because there’s no way a manager is going to use a rookie as a PH in this spot against one of the best closers in the league.

  372. krb on August 4th, 2007 10:25 pm

    Damn. Nice fight though..

  373. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 10:25 pm

    And… defeat clinched from the jaws of victory.

  374. JeffS on August 4th, 2007 10:26 pm

    Aw man… at least we made them work for the win and we didn’t go down easy. Better luck tomorrow.

  375. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 4th, 2007 10:27 pm

    “DEREK KINZLER!!!!!”

    ARE YOU SURE????

  376. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:32 pm

    Beltre should have really tried to work the count in his favor instead of swinging on the first pitch The guy just walked 2 batters in a row.

  377. JMB on August 4th, 2007 10:32 pm

    Seriously? First pitch swinging? Ugh.

  378. Ace on August 4th, 2007 10:38 pm

    372:
    Lots of reasons, 1) wouldn’t be fair to put Jones up against Paplebon a day after he was called up, 2) righty-lefty matchup, 3) why rub Jones in face of the veterans, he’s going to be taking enough of their AB’s as it is.

  379. Notor on August 4th, 2007 10:50 pm

    Who the hell cares what the veterans think? If they can’t perform they shouldn’t be playing, period.

  380. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 10:56 pm

    322 I just read your comment. Thanks for the laugh.

  381. DizzleChizzle on August 4th, 2007 11:04 pm

    Guillen in this series so far, 0 for 8, 6 K’s, 0 RBI’s, 2 GIDP, 1 error. I guess Adam Jones did disrupt the team chemistry afterall!

  382. shortbus on August 4th, 2007 11:12 pm

    That was a much MUCH better game than I feared it would be. The top of the order murdered us today. Nobody could predict an 0-4 day by Ichiro, but is there any damn reason why Beltre and Broussard are betting 5,6 and Ibanez and Guillen are hitting 3,4? Switch those two pairs around just based on their performance…we win the game.

    Or Ichiro could have gotten just one hit!!

  383. lailaihei on August 4th, 2007 11:35 pm

    We best not have to wait until Burres to see Felix pitch again.

  384. Notor on August 5th, 2007 12:02 am

    Jones is going to start tomorrow in CF. Ichiro will DH. Ibanez will unfortunately be playing left field where undoubtedly Boston will pummel him as they did tonight and as every team has done every night for the entire season.

    McLaren, you’ve been here a month, you have earned the credibility with the players, so fix it. Jones to left, Ibanez/Vidro platooned at DH. DO IT!

  385. shortbus on August 5th, 2007 8:45 am

    I don’t get the notion of platooning Ibanez and Vidro at DH. Their OPS is almost identical vs. RHP. Vidro has no platoon split, so either fire him or let him play every day.

    Why not platoon Ibanez and Guillen in RF? Both of these players show very significant platoon splits and Ibanez’ defense wouldn’t present a massive downgrade from Guillen’s in RF.

    Or shove both of ‘em out the door and call up Balantien!

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