Hi John
Dave · August 9, 2007 at 8:01 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Mr. Manager Sir,
In case you didn’t notice, I just went 3 for 4 with a double, a walk, scored four runs, and added an outfield assist just for fun. Please play me more often.
Thank you.
Adam
P.S.- I caught balls in the outfield without making people cover their eyes halfway.
What a game for LaMarque.
The kid couldn’t be more ready.
P.P.S. I am a threat on the bases not to my own team, but to the opposing team.
oh, but you didnt drive in any runs, making you completely worthless. obviously. And way to disrupt team chemistry. Shame on you.
Clearly chemistry was just completely disrupted tonight. How else can you account for the 15 hits and the solid defense? Shame on you Jones and your .417 BA
Now we just need to DFA HoRam TONIGHT! Rohrbaugh or Wells or ANYONE but HoRam.
Only one LOB; left Raul at 3rd in the first. Maybe this could be used as an argument to have him bat 3rd?
Nothing finer than to see a kid come up to the majors and set the world on fire. Adam has has barely got the lid off the gas can yet, let alone lit the match, but you can see the potential.
Last time the Mariners brought up a young outfielder that generated this kind of buzz and exitement was Jose Cruz Jr. Sorry to bring that up.
Ho must go. NOW. How can the front office remain blind to his blatant suckery?
Ho must go, and I don’t care who takes his place in the rotation. David Wells. Jesse Foppert. Reggie Miller. I don’t care about the who, only the when. NOW.
Ho must go…
P.P.P.S. I didn’t learn to do that from sitting on the bench, I learned by playing last year in the majors and destroying AAA this year.
7 – why do you hate Shane Monahan?
I loved the post-game radio interview with Shannon Dreyer. She was asking about his outfield assist and said, “did you see where the runner was?” or an equivalent question. He said, “I saw everything.”
I’m guessing that’s pretty close to the truth.
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Why do I feel an awful round of results-based analysis coming from the FO. “Gawsh guys, I don’t know how we can bench him. I mean look at his record!”
That winning on the road for HoRam takes the largest offensive explosion from the M’s all season against some of the worst pitching in the AL…well we all know how likely it is he gets a W in this game if we were facing Bedard today.
7-3 DPS R TEH AWESOME!!!!1
I’d love to see Jones get more playing time but not if it means Vidro has to play 2B so that they can get Ibanez in the lineup as well. Quite a predicament for Mac.
Actually, with Wash pitching tomorrow, I would be OK with Turbo at 2B. Wash is a pretty extreme flyball pitcher. Now, if Felix or Batista are on the mound, then you have to put Lopez and his weak bat in the lineup.
And I’m leading the team with a .417 BA
I’m actually really enjoying watching him as a baserunner, which is something that hadn’t been discussed much in threads about him. He really seems to know what he’s doing and has a confidence on the basepaths. I haven’t seen him swipe a bag here yet, but I think that stolen bases are going to come easy for him when he gets other things figured out more. Any idea how long it might take him to feel confortable enough to focus on theft? Comps, or generalities based on Data?
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He has one this year.
#14 et al – There is no predicament. Platoon Ibanez and Vidro at DH, with AJ in LF full time. The improvement on defense more than makes up for both Ibanez and Vidro not being in the lineup full time.
P.P.P.P.P.S
My OPS is .962 so far.
P.P.P.P.P.P.S: I understand the concept of small sample size, but I feel that if you look at my minor-league numbers, you’ll understand why this is just a sign of more to come.
(USSM Adam Jones has a fine understanding of statistics.)
Yes but we all know how the management likes to make judgement calls off of small sample sizes, let’s hope they make one here where it would actually help and not hurt the team.
Adam Jones I love you.
I saw Jones in the first Boston game and his speed definitley manufacturered one of our runs: Reached first on an error triggered in part by his speed. Reached second when a pick-off by Mike Timlin went awry. Then Lopez bunted, and Jones beat the throw to third leaving Lopez on as well in a fielders choice. And came in to score on a ground out by Yuni.
That was after singling and scoring on Yuni’s home run two innings earlier, plus another single.
If he can just put together a few more games like that one and tonight, it should be hard to keep him out of the lineup.
PS–I’d still love to see Dave or DMZ’s updated ideal lineup vs RH and LH pitchers. I’d want Jones in either way of course, but would be curious how they’d arrange the sequential benching of Raul, Turbo, and Sexson to make room for him to play every day
Love Prince Jones.
26 – Prince Jones doesn’t quite cut it – I prefer Adam Christ. (Jesus Jones was taken).
Dear Mr. Pinch Runner/Pinch Hitter/Very Very Part Time Outfielder Jones:
I appreciate the four at bats you give us every week, and the ninth inning fill in for Ibanez in Left Field. I would add filling in for Ichiro in Center, too, but that dropped ball… ugh.
I think you are coming along nicely and I am sure you will be in the mix next year for a spot on the outfield. You are lucky to have so many outstanding veterans to learn from, especially Raul and Vidro.
Hey, you know if you really want to start, I heard you have a 95 mph fastball. Because, well, Ramirez kinda sucks. Want to start next week against the twins?
Johnny Mac
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Prince Jones? You know that’ll never fly with Jonesy being the obvious heir to the boonie-cammy line of generic crappy nicknames M’s style.
Is it just me or does Jones seem to have amazingly quick bat speed? It seems like he really whips it around.
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I unfortunately missed it.
The predicament is that Lopez needs to not squander opportunities like he had tonight. The pressure was not on him in his one at bat, other than his teams need for him to show he’s capable of hitting again. And soon. If Lopez is hitting and the rest continue to, they could bring that Scored/Allowed back to where it should be for a .550-.580 team. It is alltogether possible that it’s that side of the equation that needs to regress to the mean.
Although a few horrible relief days that reminded me of a 12 run lead slipping away in Cleveland ’01 while the bats were dragging and Weaver was, uhm…what do you call that?…have left us with some pretty anomolous game scores. The bread for the sandwich of “Cleveland Snow” was a pair of 9 run losses. The 4th of April 0-9 vs Oak. and the 10th of April 3-14 vs Boston.
I just did a breakdown of runs/losses by 5 or more runs (16/18) through todays game and found this…
The Mariners have won by 8 runs 5 times, but not more this season. They have lost by 8 runs twice, 9 runs twice, 11 runs, 14 runs and 15 runs. only two more times have they lost by 5 runs/more and 8 runs/ more than they won. Of course there’s the streak from June 11th through 15th where they won 5 of 6 by one run ,losing the other by 4 to almost break even in runs while going 5-1.
I meant June 5th through 11th…
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Adam Christ! Hahahaha I love it. Somehow I don’t think it’s going to fly though.
How about we just call him “Chemistry” Jones
I wonder if Jones will eclipse ichiro’s outfield glove in upcoming years. He has the athletic ability but ichiro is so darn coordinated too.
I thought that the warning track ball that went off ichiro’s glove was a bad play. he wasn’t even looking at the ball! granted it would have looked super dialed if he would have caught it but he took himself out of position to field the ball off the wall to try to make a very very difficult (read: low percentage) catch.
In a very similar warning track hit to bloomquist, he didnt blindly try to bring it in. he just played it off the wall and respected the hit. Difference: ichiro allowed a triple and bloomquist only a double.
Difference:Ichiro will sometimes get the out, Bloomquist will always give up the double
Ugh, even if you wanted to label him “Christ” it would be “Adam the Christ”. Christ was His title, not His name
Sorry, pet peeve (Though Jesus Jones made me laugh).
If you wanted to stay with some reference to God’s Son, you could try just calling him Adam of San Diego.
And John, the best reason for playing Adam Jones is that Bavasi thinks he can help the ball club now. Bavasi knows ballplayers, John.
Somehow Adam of San Diego doesn’t have the same ring.
I already made my suggestion of The Box. Must I waste brainpower on MORE?
It’s Jonesy, obviously
Well let’s see, Ibanez was the Oak tree in LF so that would make Jones….the Chipmunk? Gathering up all those nuts Ibanez drops.
Dear Adam,
I know you are eager to play. I was young once myself, a looong time ago. But these are the Majors, son, and you are a rookie.
I need to enlighten you a little about your future. There is a lot of talk about next year and you getting your shot at last. Well….
Raul will be back, Ichiro has reupped, we are working on an extension for your pal Guillen. Also Ritchie Rich is signed for 35 times what you will make, so I can’t sit him in favor of you. And Turbo will be back from his successful .300 campaign in 2007.
Where do I fit you in? You are our 4th outfielder, lad, there is not much I can or wish to do about it. Even 2nd, short & 3rd are occupied. So we can use you as we are doing currently, or we can trade you in the offseason for a starting pitcher. Don’t get too comfortable at Safeco, and please turn in your uniform at season’s end.
Wishing you a long, successful career in another city,
Manager John.
How about:
Adam Ant?
ATOM Jones!
Amazing Adam!
Action Adam!
A+ Adam!
Absoult Jones!
Or something about “Not knowing him from Adam”?
Ho must go. NOW. How can the front office remain blind to his blatant suckery?
I don’t think they’re blind, they just don’t see any better options. Baek would be a better option if he was healthy. Maybe he’ll be off the DL later this month.
A Jo. That’s what his teammates likely call him. They like short, uncreative names.
AgedDavid,
You seem to think Jones would be traded before Vidro, Sexson or Raul. Why?
Can anyone explain why -and how- the front office and manager remain blind to issues like Adam Jones/LF and Ho Ram?
strong silence,
who the hell would trade for Vidro, Sexson or Raul?
29: I have to admit that your last sentence immediately made me think of Blazing Saddles. In fact, I’ve already got a commercial for the ’08 season:
Adam Jones steps to the plate, and sets for the pitch.
JONES: ‘Scuse me while I whip this around…
The entire opposing team, infield and outfield, simultaneously covers their eyes and ducks away from Jones.
MARINERS BASEBALL! MY OH MY!
“Action Adam!”? Wasn’t that a blaxploitation flick from the 70s?
david h,
There is a possibility that Vidro ends the season with a shiny batting average. If so, then Littlefield, Sabean, Byrnes, or Bowden may want him. I don’t know the salary for 2008, which could change the possibility of a trade.
To reframe this: I asked AgedDavid why he implied that AJ would be traded.
I think it more likely that either Vidro or Lopez gets traded first. Vidro because of a shiny BA or Lopez because he doesn’t appear to be learning how to hit.
Does the move to put Vidro at 2B mean the Mariners have given up on Lopez? In any case 2B looks like a good place to upgrade the team in free agency. Not knowing anything about who might be available, it’s one spot on the team where there is an underperforming guy that won’t cost us much to replace.
Oh crap. I forgot we just signed Lopez to a long term deal.
All the Jesus talk reminded me of the pithy name I came up for Broussard when he made the first and last outs in the sixth inning: Jesus. He was the Alpha and the Omega.
Geoff Baker is reporting that Jones will be in the lineup tomorrow because Guillen’s hand is swollen. Might even be out for a few days.
I just read this over on the Mariners site.
“Even if he doesn’t play, it’s a good learning process for him,” McLaren said. “We’re going to use him in different places — spot starts, defense, pinch-running, and possibly pinch-hitting. But it’s not a priority for me to find him a place to play right now.”
I’m hoping that after tonight’s performance, Mac makes it more of a priority put Jones in the lineup as much as possible.
Mac is a veteran-whore. It’s a Pineilla trait I presume. Adam couldn’t be playing any better, though.
Which Mariner has this career line? 263/298/384 with an OPS+ of 81.
51 I kind of figured that would happen. I can’t say it’s good news being that Guillen is going to be out, but it’s nice to know that we have a guy like Adam Jones in the lineup to take his place.
[i]-In the post-game clubhouse=[/i]
Jones: Please sir, may I have some more?
McLaren: MORE??!!!
*Vidro sneaks off with the rest of the gruel…err playing time….or something*
51: While that sucks, and I don’t think that Jones is an offensive upgrade, I’m glad he’ll be getting enough playing time to make the small sample size a “decently moderate” sample size, and if he keeps up great numbers… Maybe we’ll see if Wlad can do the same thing? Wait, no, that’s never ever gonna happen.
I can’t believe the ESPN crew still doesn’t know how to pronounce Ichiro.
Frankly, I would have used McLaren’s strategy—a month and a half ago.
Doesn’t get the veterans’ noses out of joint when you announce it (and that’s STILL important to do; that’s about 50% of a manager’s job–to manage egos), you can cheat a bit and up his playing time and not have people notice, and you let the kid convince ‘em with his play. “Chemistry” aint gonna get disrupted with a .300/.375/.475 hitter taking starts…
I don’t think Mac’s going to use general media comments to signal major changes. He can say anything he wants to keep the veterans happy as long as he puts Jones in the lineup. As long as Jones keeps taking advantage of his opportunities, we’ll keep seeing him more often than not.
-In the post-game clubhouse=…
Ooops.
I’m teh suxor.
58 It’s not just ESPN Laura, it’s everybody who doesn’t have an understanding of the Japanese language. My wife and I still laugh everytime we hear his name mispronounced. It never gets old.
AJ iz teh pwnzor.
AJ iz in UR outfield, thowin out UR doodz.
All your base are belong to AJ.
57 Although I think it’s too early to determine how much of an offensive impact he’s going to be, you can’t deny that you don’t like what you’ve seen so far. In a limited role he’s already produced 8 runs. He gives this team a whole new dimension on offense. If he can keep swinging an effective bat, I’d like to see him batting behind Ichiro in the near future. I’m hoping he can be similar to a Grady Sizemore, but that might be asking too much.
You’d certainly justified in giving him more playing time…pretty easy to give a hot hitting bat more PT while resting your vets.
re: nickname
I like Jpwns.
Honestly, can you knock it off with the intentional typos?
Adam Jones = The Mariners best solution to their long standing LF problem that stretches back over a century. Now makes the Mariners so much better that the other teams are just keeping up with the Joneses!
HA! Adam “the cat” Jones.
Honestly, can you knock it off with the intentional typos?
wut
Question:
What’s average range for BABIP?
nickname: the Black Hole
Okay, it might be considered un-PC and it’ll never take off, but I kind of like the idea of having Area 51 in CF and the Black Hole over in LF. Not sure what to call a Guillen filled RF though…
It’s definitely gonna be either the Black Hole or Adam Christ. I’ll leave it up to Niehaus to decide…
73- The AL average BABIP is .304.
Thank you JLC
nickname: the Black Hole
What the Smeg? We got plenty of authetnic black holes in the lineup. A black hole Adam Jones aint.
78: I was referring to his defense…
Hello USSM: What about me? Since the All-Star Break I am hitting .402 with a .465 on base percentage, and a .960 OPS. I also have the second highest batting average for a DH. I love Adam Jones too, but you guys were wrong about me.
Thanks, Bill, for giving me new life in the American League. And, please, don’t play me at second too often–unless it’s to get AJ and Raul into the lineup at the same time.
There still seems to be an assumption by some that playing Jones means Ibanez sits but this whole chain of events needs to result in two things:
key players get the rest they need since there are adequate talents to choose from
Sexson needs to go away until he can earn his AB’s again
There’s room for Vidro to be in there as long as he doesn’t suck as bad as he did for first 3 months of the season.
I just don’t believe in seniority and living off of past laurels. The most invigorating thing about watching a team is when someone comes along that fills a hole and makes it better.
Hello USSM: I’ve had a really incredible last 7 games or so but even with that, I’m still not even SLG .400 for the season. Who says your DH needs to be a run producer anyway? I have no business with a glove and really can’t run well either. I’m a constant threat to ground into a double play but hey, Ichiro should steal more anyway. I just know that if you guys could convince John to let me pitch too, I could bring this thing home for the Ms.
Hello USSM
I can’t speak for the rest of USSM, nor would I want to. But Vidro still sucks, and this is still Excessive Penalty Week. Being snarky about a player and completely ignoring everything anybody else has said about Vidro since day one is not going to bode well.
I just know that if you guys could convince John to let me pitch too, I could bring this thing home for the Ms.
Hell, I’ll try anything once. Go for it “Turbo”.
#80, I hope you just forgot your sarcasm tags. Since the All-Star Break is an awfully short sample.
#80, #84, and batting average is an awfully useless stat. And wrong is an awfully incorrect conclusion.
Has anyone read Art Thiel’s latest hackjob? Not only does he have to remind everyone about the M’s crashing and burning around this time last year, but he uses Adam Jones’ one dropped flyball against Boston as proof that he isn’t ready to play in a playoff chase for a contender! I mean, I know it’s Art Thiel, and not much is to be expected of him, but wow.
#80: It is forbidden to say anything good here about Jose Vidro no matter what he does. And he’s not swinging the bat well. He’s accidentally gotten a few extra hits due to random happenstance. Or something.
Dear Adam,
Small sample size. (I learned this from Dave Cameron.)
John
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What the hell is that? I don’t live in Seattle, so I’m not a regular reader of any of the stuff the local papers churn out, but after your comment I went over to the site and read that article. I can’t believe the nonsense that man is writing.
He gives props to Mac and BB for picking up a worthless veteran reliever by refering to the oft cited youth of our ‘pen and the overwork of Putz (while simultaneously failing to note the shut down job they turned in last night from the 7th inning on without JJ). He indicates that Jeff Weaver is our most consistent starter (Miguel Batista says hi Art) and includes him in a list of players who will carry the team down the stretch run! The parting shot at AJ at the end of the article was just adding insult to injury. Is he always this bad?
Re: Nicknames
We already got a ‘King’, so how about an ‘Emperor’ as in Emperor Jones? Wouldn’t a nice literary reference go well with Seattle’s latte-sipping, flannel-shirt guy in the BMW, je ne sais quoi sports scene?
89: Art is the extreme bitter pessimist that lives somewhere in the hearts of just about every Seattle sports fan. He’s always around to remind us of how bad it can be when things are going good, and how…bad things are when they’re not going good. He hardly ever has positive things to say, and when he does, they’re horribly misguided. It’s tough to read his articles.
I’m going with “Adam ‘Passion of the’ Jones”.
I can’t believe this turned into another Vidro-thread.
Am I the only one who has heard an ad for M’s playoff tickets and thought how completely ludicrous that idea even is, despite the fact they lead the WC standings with 50 to go?
PLAYOFF TICKETS, people~! *shakes head*
I wonder if Thiel actually watches the Mariners or knows anything about baseball. I think maybe not.
I can’t believe this turned into another Vidro-thread.
Amen, brother (or sister, as the case may be). It’s all been said, several times.
This blog is supposed to be where I can read about the Mariners without hearing about how good “you-know-who” has been “since the All-Star Break”, or how high his batting average is, compared to other DHs, who actually generate runs. Isn’t it still EPW?
Why does he even need a nickname? There’s only one Jones on the Mariners, so when someone says “Jones” it’s rather evident who they’re referring to.
That being said, Niehaus calls him “The Kid” (probably because he thinks it’s Griffey out there…)
I watched the Orioles broadcast last night and found it highly amusing when their announcers were going on about how McLaren was one of the main reasons Jones had been called up. Something along the lines of “McLaren knows what this kid can do and had been lobbying to bring him up.”
It’s great to have A.J. in the lineup but almost as important is having Big Whiffey not in it.
Has a team ever made to the post season with regular first baseman posting sub-Mendoza Line numbers?
As for chemistry, Jones is definitely changing it from the cozy veteran, “mediocrity is okay” atmosphere to one of, “if I don’t do my job, somebody else will.” What’s wrong with that? Professional athletes should thrive on that kind of pressure and competition.
Playoff tickets? The commissioner normally authorizes the printing of them with about two weeks to go in the season. This sounds more like a season ticket scam to me–the one where your playoff deposit is non refundable and transfers to next season if they don’t make it.
I hadn’t read Thiel in ages. Now I remember why.
Theil has done tremendous damage to the Sonics’ chances of staying in the region. He pumps out an anti-NBA/Sonics article on a near weekly basis. I wonder why he writes for a Seattle paper. He seemingly hates the sports teams here, and their respective fans.
I’m just hoping that Mac plays him more than once every five days, so he can build up some good streaks. Sitting on the bench, pinch running, etc doesn’t seem like the best use for him.
If we nicknamed him “Beakerâ€, do you think Mac would play him more, since he could be used with their magic chemistry set?
I think Thiel is right about Weaver being the steadiest. He has been consistently awful since day 1.
Doctor Jones! Doctor Jones!
Incorrect.
Please delete previous post, and this one.
102 – June and July called. They said you must have missed them.
I just read this from Larry Stone covering Geoff Baker:
“Yes, Adam Jones is back in the lineup in left field, and Ben Broussard is back at first base, which should make the blogosphere happy. Jose Vidro back at second base — not so much.”
Nice. I guess the internet ain’t just for fondling yourself in a chat room anymore.
Since so many here preach the gospel of Small Sample Size let’s not start waving around Jones’ BA and OPS after three games.
Having said that, Jones’ talent and potential are obvious and there’s good reason to be excited about him. His throw from LF to first was better than a lot of Yuni’s throws from SS and he just seems like a threat to score every time he gets on base.
Just don’t nickname him Prince. Please.
Not that he really needs a nickname. But if we are going to throw something out there can we not do a play on the whole royalty thing. One member of the nobility is enough.
That being said, in the game summary from the Seattle Times it quotes him as saying that he just wants to “wreak havoc” on the field and basepaths. So why not just call him Havoc.
What about the Ballplayer formerly known as Prince? Or just call him, “The Ballplayer� Anyway, no matter what you call him last night hopefully means more playing time for him; and that’s a good thing.
Of course Jones needs a nickname! Perhaps references to the suspended football player are out of bounds, but perhaps we could give a little hat tip to M’s history and call him HacMan Jones?
Adam “M*********ing” Jones
Well, you know who else was named Prince Adam…
HE-MAN! MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE!
I’m seriously going to shout “By the Power of Greyskull!” every time he comes to the plate, now.
Question, isn’t scoring runs and getting on base important? If so, Vidro gives us chances there.
Believe me, I was no fan of his when he got here (and still aren’t), but I don’t understand the hostility to the guy? I can grudgingly accept that he deserves to play based on his ability to get on base.
Oh and Mac is being PC when he talks about AJ. I believe he will use AJ the way Grover used WBF.
Two good things result: AJ gets the playing time and WBF is used as sparingly as possible.
AJ will be a starter next season, I have no doubts there.
A bit OT, but Scott Spezio has entered rehab for substance abuse. That might explain a thing or two about his days as a Mariner.
“Cry havoc! And let loose the dogs of war! – Shakespeare
Perhaps we could call him Rottweiler Jones.
Or, we could just let something naturally develop as AJ seems to be doing.
I thought it was “let slip the dogs of war”.
112- I like AMFJ!
118 – I’ve heard it both ways which is funny since it shouldn’t be a translation from the original English issue. Anyway, it’s from memory which ain’t as good as it used to be.
Mariners are pushing rookie Adam Jones into places, such as the outfield, in which he doesn’t yet belong. As his blown catch in center field last week attested, a pennant race isn’t the time to introduce Jones’ inexperience to the baseball world. Quote from Art Theil.
Is this guy for real!
I miss yesterday and the “no nonsense thread.” Maybe we can have two entries everyday?
Mariners are pushing rookie Adam Jones into places, such as the outfield, in which he doesn’t yet belong. As his blown catch in center field last week attested, a pennant race isn’t the time to introduce Jones’ inexperience to the baseball world. Quote from Art Theil.
Is this guy for real!
As his column demonstrates, experience is no substitute for talent, not only in baseball but also in journalism.
If this team misses the playoffs it will be because of Weaver (and HoRam). Those April and May (and June) crappy performances should not be forgotten if the M’s are 2 or 3 games out of a playoff spot.
Whatever inexperience Jones brings to the field won’t do the damage those two veterans have already done.
#113 – That was awesome. You get my vote for “Post of the Day”. LOL!
Let me go on record and state that Art Thiel, in his prime, was my favorite local sportswriter bar none. His articles tended be somewhat deeper and more engaging than is the norm on a sports page and, though he overuses them, his metaphors and aphorisms were often dead on.
That said, the column today was a “mail-in” job. Having been around since the beginning of time (Seattle major league sports wise) it may be that he’s just running out the clock at this point.
You know, we like to complain about giving up Soriano and Snelling and Fruto in the HoRam and Vidro trades, and rightfully so. We also like to complain about the $$ now devoted to Vidro, as well as HoRam’s overall suckiness.
But think of the effect those moves have had on arguably our two top prospects, Adam Jones and Brandon Morrow.
Would this thread even exist if the Vidro deal never happened? Would McLaren be worried about chemistry and “veteranness” if he were contemplating playing Jones over Snelling, or even Broussard? I understand that if the Vidro deal hadn’t happened, other deals could have taken its place, and we might be in the same spot regardless. But one has wonder whether the Vidro deal has had the unintended but unfortunate effect of keeping AJ from regular duty.
As for Morrow, if we had kept Soriano, Morrow very likely would have been sent to the minors to become a starter. I understand his development time is a matter of debate, but he possibly could have been the arm to replace HoRam in the rotation in August or September.
Just another couple of reasons to hate the HoRam and Vidro deals.
Discussing Jose Vidro’s value is now off topic until further notice. We’re tired of having this debate, and won’t let every thread turn into another lame argument with people who choose to not want to learn.
127. Ummm, yes to all points. That’s kinda the reason we hated the Vidro deal to begin with: Vidro’s bloated contract ties up the DH spot for 3 years, which leaves Ibañez piss poor defense in left. It was the latest crushing sign that the M’s don’t know the value of defense.
Did Bavasi ever say that he intended to make Morrow a starter? I’m not being disrespectful. I’m simply ignorant about Bavasi’s view of the issue.
Thinking about Morrow, it dawns on me that USSM and this community wanted Soriano to be a starter, and thought he could. This view was the consensus view on this site a few years back. But when Gillick was asked he said it was never intended to make Soriano a starter.
Morrow is still slated to be a starter. At least that’s the organization’s line…
The good: the M’s offense is terrific against the likes of Baltimore.
The bad: Vidro in the field.
The ugly: ESPN announcers calling Ichiro “ee-CHEER-o”. Gawd, WTF, over?
Are the stars beginning to align or did we just play a really bad team? LAA plays MN at home this weekend. Do those guys EVER go on the road? Geez.
um. “the tale of Brutus Jones, an African American man who kills a man, goes to prison, escapes to a Caribbean island, and sets himself up as emperor. The play recounts his story in flashbacks as Brutus makes his way through the forest in an attempt to escape his former subjects who have rebelled against him.”
IIRC, Jason Churchill favors “Showtime” for AJ.
Morrow needs to be developed into a starter. The M’s need another live arm in the rotation besides Felix’s.
Per Stone at the Times blog, Jones in right today because Guillen’s hand is swollen, he might miss a couple of games.
Seriously? I thought only Hawk Harrelson did that.
#113 – That was awesome. You get my vote for “Post of the Dayâ€. LOL!
Glad you liked it. Doesn’t look like it’s going to catch on, though – which is a shame. I’d love a chance to start calling Broussard “Man-At-Arms”.
Vidro can be Ram-man and WFB can be Teela.
Oh Richie. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7104348?MSNHPHMA
Anyone hear this call on the local MASN feed by (I think it was…) Jim Palmer or Buck Martinez when AJ doubled Roberts off 1B?
“Not only is he a five tool player, but he can also throw!”
I found that rather amusing.
It’s definitely gonna be either the Black Hole or Adam Christ.
Adam Almighty? But I do like “Havoc.”
Did Bavasi ever say that he intended to make Morrow a starter? I’m not being disrespectful. I’m simply ignorant about Bavasi’s view of the issue.
Intentionally using the #5 overall pick in the draft on a reliever would be, ah, dumb. Guys drafted that high should project out (if they reach their potential and have a long career) as at least borderline HOF candidates. Very few relievers would fit that description.
Nickname – Adam “The Particle Accelorator” Jones
Hints – Never read Art Thiel. Never listen to baseball talk on KJR. Only listen to Dave Niehaus on the radio.
Subject Playoff Tickets – Any day now the Mariners will send me and thousands of other season ticket holders a letter telling us we must give them thousands of dollars by Sep 1st or someone else gets our seats for the playoffs.
69 nailed it.
Jpwns
Look at it this way – it’ll piss Guillen off to no end without him even understanding it.
It is perfect for the kid who pwns leftfield but can’t get any respect from aged veterans & managers.
It seems that “AJ” is working just fine as a nickname. Who says you need something flashy or overused?
That said — Hacman is pretty funny.
Combining #140 with George Constanza’s “Seven” name for his yet to be conceived son, I go with The nickname of “Six” for Adam Jones. Five tool’s plus one.
That would really upset Jose Guillen (Jersey #6).
Jones is going to take his job, so he might as well take his jersey.
One thing you need to ask yourself is how Adam would feel about the nickname. I’m pretty sure Felix doesn’t mind “King Felix”. I’m also pretty sure Adam wouldn’t love “jpwns” or “Hacman.”
So to me he is:
Mister Jones.
All respect to Sidney Poitier.
As long as they don’t call him “utility guy.”
132 – Of course, Baltimore aren’t a great team, but we scored 31 runs in 3 games, which amounts to an absolute pounding. The Yankees and Red Sox have played the Orioles in recent weeks and their comparative totals were 17 and 15 runs respectively, so credit where credit’s due, it was a good performance even if it is against a bad team.
i vote for either “havoc” or “showtime” for jones…
Or jones soda in place of Raulee Fries…
My inner comic book nerd is thrilled with the idea of calling him Havoc, which is also pretty cool (and appropriate) just from a word-definition standpoint. And his own words indicate he might enjoy it quite a bit:
“…if I get on base, I can cause some kind of havoc. I like to wreak havoc. It’s always a good thing.”
I’m having trouble imagining it catching on, and it’s a little clumsy (do we just call him Havoc, or is it Adam “Havoc” Jones or something like that?), and maybe a little too over the top. But if it does catch on, I’ll get a kick out of it pretty consistently.
Adam “Havoc” Jones sounds awful… from now on Im just going to refer to him as Havoc!
Havoc doesn’t even sound like a nickname. The Box! The Box! The Box!
what does that even mean? the box
I’m so glad you asked.
It’s because he’s got ALL THESE TOOLS, see??
Well, there’s already a Basketball Jones, how about we nickname Adam “Baseball” Jones? Of course, somebody would need to update the song lyrics.
haha thats ok I guess… but Havoc is much better.
154 – I like it. Here’s my humble suggestion for AJ’s nickname: The Carpenter. That moniker combines your deft idea and the earlier one about Jesus Jones/Adam Christ.
How about: Adam Jones?
Nicknames are often stupid and pointless, especially when they have no meaning.
Yeah, but it also sounds like he might burst into a chorus of “Close to You.”
159 – I was actually thinking “Rainy Days and Mondays”.
Perfect 10 (AJ’s uniform number)
How about Adam “Physics” Jones?
154 – I like it. Here’s my humble suggestion for AJ’s nickname: The Carpenter. That moniker combines your deft idea and the earlier one about Jesus Jones/Adam Christ.
That’s actually really good. The Carpenter. Except it might encourage McLaren to ask him to manufacture runs.
I think AJ is good, but now that I understand Lauren’s The Box I like that too. However Box has a certain innappropriate usage as well and I wouldn’t want people thinking that. Maybe we could go with Craftsman or some other tool brandname? (Must say AMFJ made me laugh out loud though)
Okay, here’s an abstract one for y’all: Fogerty. Takes some thinking, perhaps, but it fits for me…
Havoc Jones – I like it.
I would want people thinking of inappropriate box-ness. I guess that’s the difference between you and me. Hee hee! Box!
For maximum humor value, please say “…now that I understand Lauren’s Box I like that too.”
Creative and inappropriate? Lauren is now my favorite. poster. ever.
However, put my vote in for Mister Jones.
Actually, “Fogerty” fits MUCH better for Bloomquist. And it could actually be a nice way of keeping that “F” in WFB…
Nobody likes “Physics”?
Because I thought we all would prefer “physics” to “chemistry”…
How about Adam ‘The Jet’ Jones..
A not-so clever ripoff of the Sandlots Benny ‘The Jet’ Rodriguez.
‘The Jet fires a laser in to Johjima to nail Roberts at the plate.’
haha thats cute… but im starting to like Mr. Jones.
A Jo.
Should he marry J Lo – Think of the headlines! Think of the crossword puzzles! Imagine the names of their children!
After not very much persuasion I have decided that Lauren’s The Box is the best idea out there, clever and crude all at the same time.
No, he should not marry J Lo. I want AJ to have a long, happy career and not be destroyed by a vile woman.
Paul,
if you’re referring to John Fogerty please explain the connection. I don’t get it.
Thanks, vj
Jpwns would piss Guillen off to no end. All these young kids and their nicknames taking away his spot.
I would settle for AJ or The Carpenter though.
For #155, with apologies to Cheech, Chong, Dave and DMZ:
Baseball Jones, I got a Baseball Jones
Got a Baseball Jones, oh baby, oo-oo-oo
Yes, I am the victim of a Baseball Jones
Ever since I was a little baby, I always be swingin’
In fac’, I was de baddest hitter in the whole neighborhood
Then one day, my mama bought me a bat
And I loved that baseball bat
I took that baseball bat with me everywhere I went
That bat was like a bat to me
I even put that bat underneath my pillow
Maybe that’s why I can’t sleep at night
I need help, ladies and gentlemens
I need someone to bat behind me
I need, I need someone to line a shot at the home plate of life
Someone I can throw to
Someone to advance the man on the hit run
And not end up in the rally fry machine
So Mariner Moose, help me out
{Moose Repeatedly…}
(Baseball Jones, I got a Baseball Jones)
(I got a Baseball Jones, oh baby, oo-oo-ooo)
{while Adam Jones sings/speaks…}
Oh, that sounds so sweet
Sing it out
C’mon Coach Mac, Dave Niehaus, sing along with me
That be bad, honky
Yeah
I want everybody in the Safeco to stand up and sing with us
Oh yeah, sing it out like you’re proud
All right, everybody watchin’ coast-to-coast, sing along with us
Willie Mays, sing along with us
Rick Rizzs, sing along with us
Dave Sims, don’t sing nothin’
Oh, it feels so good
Gimme the bat
I’ll hit against the world, left-handed
I could throw it from center to home with my toes
I could jump on top of the scoreboard, take off a quarter, leave fifteen cents change and catch the ball I could, I could steal second running backwards I got more moves than Ex-Lax I’m bad I could catch with my bare hands Here I go around first, try to stop me You can’t stop me ’cause I
got a Baseball Jones Here I come That’s my sac fly with my one hand Yeah, I could
score running on my knees I’m, I’m bad as King Kong, gimme the bat I’m hot, I’m hot as…, I’m hot as…, I’m hot as… uh Uh, uh, uh, uh
(Basketball Jones, I got a Basketball Jones, I got a Basketball Jones, Basketball Jones)
ok scratch that question…
“put me in coach, I’m ready to play…”
“Soda” is pretty good. I hear he has pop in his bat.
Yeah, but we don’t want Jones in CF (yet). We’ll have to alter the lyrics a bit and rename the song Left Field.
Every time I see or think of J Lo, I am reminded of “it’s turkey time! gobble gobble!” from Gigli — the greatest movie since Showgirls, if not of all time. I think Chemistry Jones ought to get some of that, sure.
His mother calls him Jonesy.
Box just makes me think of Bob Melvin.
Jonesy?
Let’s not get that started.
The M’s already got Ichy, Kenji, Richie, Yuni, and Lopey.
Wasn’t Jonesy the sonar technician in The Hunt for Red October?
178: Just for making the effort, I would rate that an 8.1 if I were a Pitchfork reviewer. I know the nickname has no shot, but that was still a nice post in support!
Since we’ve had some pop music references already, I’d like to mention that there’s a song by the Talking Heads called Mr. Jones. (I guess that dates me but so what).
Jonesy is taken from Reno 911, we can’t be comparing our saviour to comedy central characters. (Although that is a pretty good show)
Jonesy was also Ripley’s cat in Alien and Aliens.
I want to hear Dave N. making the call:
(upper deck home run)
“And… they… call… him… Mister… JONES!”
Maybe I can bribe Dave C. to call him that on KJR today.
187 – And the Counting Crows, too -all about becoming a big star.
And they can have a “Me and Mr. Jones” t-shirt night.
Yeah, but that Counting Crows song kind of sucks. And easily gets stuck in one’s head. After being reminded of Melvin, I’m shifting my support to whoever way back said “Dr. Jones.” We could have awesome Indy-themed nights then.
I’m liking the nickname JoGui (prononced “Hogie”) for Jose Guillen..anyone else?
I think Mister Poopypants is a better nickname for Guillen.
Dr. Jones is good.
Having given it some thought, Havoc is too clumsy, and I withdraw my support. Chemistry is witty, but would probably take on the wrong connotation quickly. Physics sounds better, and while more of a stretch could be riffing on the same thing (Physics being more important than chemistry to the operation of a baseball time, really, as far as the sciences go).
I like Soda though. Any of those four and I’m pretty happy.
That said, we all know he’ll be called Jonesy by the broadcasters, so this is pretty academic.
great, now I have “Me and Mrs Jones” stuck in my head,
(mrsjonesmrsjonesmrsjones)
Oops, baseball team, of course. Don’t know how that happened. OK, no more posts on this topic by me…
That would be pretty funny if they played Ms. Jones every time he came up to bat. I don’t think he’d like it much though.
vj, if Paul is thinking of the same Fogerty connection that I am, perhaps it’s the solo album (“The Blue Ridge Rangers”) on which he recorded ALL the parts himself. Played every position, as it were.
As someone with the last name of Jones, I can definitely say that if they were to play ‘Me And Mrs. Jones’ or ‘Mr. Jones’ when Adam comes up, I will never darken Safeco’s doors until his career is over.
Something is happening and I don’t know what it is.
Adam Jones
career stats in M.L.B.
ba-.244
obp-.270
slg-.337
ops+ 61
Or “Center Field” . . . duh.
192 – True, but Sidney Poitier is more awesome than the Counting Crows are un-awesome.
197 – Me too. I blame myself. But it could be worse.
Still like the nickname for its simplicity.
Mr. Manager Sir,
In case you didn’t notice, I just went 3 for 4 with a double, a walk, scored four runs, and added an outfield assist just for fun.
I guess that’s not enough to overcome the awesomeness that is Jose Guillen, Raul Ibanez, and Richie Sexson.
Maybe I can play next month?
Sorrowfully,
Adam Jones
I am totally down for either:
- Havoc / Havoc Jones
or
- Dr. Jones. The Indiana Jones references would never end, I love it!
202 What purpose was that post supposed to serve?
Lauren – You’re abandoning The Box after spending all that time explaining it? Well I guess it’s good to not be reminded of Melvin, but I’d really came around.
Regarding the earlier complaints about the inability of certain persons to pronounce Ichiro’s name correctly, how about the inability of everyone on the air to pronounce Johjima properly? Every single time it’s “joe-jimma”. NO. It is “joh-jeema”.
Reguarding #202
Some are over reacting to his last game;I just put it in perspective.
For Adam Jones;
you’ve heard of the atom smasher?
How about Adam the Smasher?
I thought I’d heard somewhere round these parts that joe-jimma actually was correct.
Spokane: You must understand that as the uterus wanders around a woman’s body, it has a negative effect on our decision-making processes.
Actually, I’m quite keen on “The Box” again now!