Game 126, Mariners at Rangers

DMZ · August 24, 2007 at 4:42 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Felix Day! 5:35 our time, FSN. Felix faces once-greatly-desired free agent pitcher Kevin Millwood!

Over at the PI, John Marshall names his top picks of this year’s baseball books. I’m of course disappointed The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball isn’t on there (No love for the local? Really?), though it does look like they’re almost all hardbacks, and particularly — and there’s really no way to say this, having a book in competition, but I thought Shaughnessy’s book was just baaaaad, so it doubly hurts. Feel free to twist knives in the comments if you’re so inclined – it might distract from today’s standard lineup.

Comments

311 Responses to “Game 126, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. The Unknown Comic on August 24th, 2007 4:45 pm

    I am starting to get the feeling that no matter what pitcher or what lineup the Mariners throw out there they will find a way to win.

  2. Rusty on August 24th, 2007 4:52 pm

    You wrote a book? ;)

  3. SeattleDan on August 24th, 2007 4:55 pm

    I did list “Cheater’s Guide” last week in the Seattle Times Sunday Arts section for local bookstore. Maybe John doesn’t read that section on Sundays.

  4. schmicky on August 24th, 2007 5:02 pm

    That book, well let me just say this much about it…Once I started reading it I took every chance I could to read and then it was like I’m done already? I think Cheaters needs a sequal, and now!

  5. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 5:03 pm

    I just picked up Cheater’s Guide from the library a minute ago!
    Any other book recs DMZ or Dave? I have ‘the Book’ on it’s way to my hold section in the library soon.

  6. Teej on August 24th, 2007 5:07 pm

    I haven’t read the Curly Headed Boyfriend’s book, but if it’s anything like his columns for the Globe, I’ll pass.

  7. Jack Howland on August 24th, 2007 5:11 pm

    How is Kirby Arnold’s book to anyone who has read it?

  8. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 5:12 pm

    Hey, Halladay pitching against the halos today. And it’s Felix day, so basically instant win.
    Time to share the division title!

    Bill Krueger is an idiot by the way. Every time he opens his mouth it makes me want to shoot him in the face.

  9. Teej on August 24th, 2007 5:17 pm

    Also, speaking of that P-I list, Zack Hample’s book was kinda obnoxious. I have no idea why I bought it. I thought I’d learn something, but it’s written for 8-year-olds. “This is what a fastball is.” “This is what a curveball is.”

    Plus, I didn’t realize until I got home and looked at the picture on the back that it was written by the same guy I saw on TV a few months beforehand knocking over children to get to fly balls.

  10. terry on August 24th, 2007 5:18 pm

    I just picked up Cheater’s Guide from the library a minute ago!

    I hope you sent a check to Derek anyway…. :-P

    Since you’re in the library anyway here’s some out of print gems:

    Pete Palmer’s & John Thorn’s “The Hidden Game of Baseball”

    Eric Walker’s “The Sinister Firstbaseman”

    any of the original Bill James Abstracts

  11. Teej on August 24th, 2007 5:19 pm

    6: Oops, I meant Curly Haired Boyfriend.

  12. msb on August 24th, 2007 5:31 pm

    well, that is an uninspiring list of titles. Where are the biographies? Opening Day by Jonathan Eig? The Soul of Baseball by Joe Posnanski?

    Arnold’s book is part of a series from “Sports Publishing”; I still haven’t read it, but I understand it is an engaging rehash of Marner Lore

  13. DMZ on August 24th, 2007 5:41 pm

    I’m going to update the USSM Reading List at some point soon — there certainly seems to be a call for it.

  14. msb on August 24th, 2007 5:42 pm

    hey! it’s Veteran Right-Hander Kevin Millwood!

  15. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:42 pm

    And away we go.

    Best comment about the M’s lineup: “Well, I see a lot of Joses in there!”

  16. argh on August 24th, 2007 5:43 pm

    3 pitches 3 strikes. After last night, however, I’ve given up on omens.

  17. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 5:45 pm

    haha
    Guillen has some power on his HRs, doesn’t he?

  18. argh on August 24th, 2007 5:45 pm

    There’s one of our Joses. Nice whack.

  19. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:45 pm

    Don’t get behind in the count. Ouch.

  20. Dave on August 24th, 2007 5:45 pm

    Jose Guillen might just be the best free agent signing the club has ever made.

  21. Teej on August 24th, 2007 5:46 pm

    I’m going to update the USSM Reading List at some point soon — there certainly seems to be a call for it.

    I read it last year and bought a few books off it. Very helpful. But there are some that I still haven’t found the guts to crack yet — “Curve Ball,” for instance. Some dense reading there. Someday . . .

  22. dnc on August 24th, 2007 5:46 pm

    20 – Bret Boone?

  23. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 5:46 pm

    Dave, what do you think about a long term Guillen contract? I see it as inevitable.

    Side note: Ow legs x_x

  24. sf-seattle on August 24th, 2007 5:47 pm

    22 – i was thinking rickey henderson :)

  25. argh on August 24th, 2007 5:47 pm

    “He’s kind of laughing about it now.”

    Well, hit him again then.

  26. Dave on August 24th, 2007 5:47 pm

    Yea, the crap machine probably was better. But still, Guillen’s been a pretty terrific signing.

  27. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:48 pm

    “He’s not fooling anybody,” as an announcer might say.

  28. DKCecil on August 24th, 2007 5:48 pm

    Haha, watching Raul run is hilarious and painful at the same time.

  29. Dave on August 24th, 2007 5:48 pm

    I’m fine with extending Guillen for something like 2/20 and an option for a third year, honestly.

  30. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:49 pm

    Get up!
    Get on up.
    Get up!
    Get on up.
    Stay on the scene…
    like a crap machine.

  31. sf-seattle on August 24th, 2007 5:49 pm

    wow good pitch, i don’t think Richie can reach that one outside & low

  32. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 5:50 pm

    I agree. Since it doesn’t look like Balentien is going to get a chance at a starting spot next year, Guillen isn’t a bad choice to get a few years out of.
    Since he’s shown some affection for Seattle, maybe we don’t have to outbid teams necessarily?

  33. Dave on August 24th, 2007 5:50 pm

    Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap machine. Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap machine. Try not to suck.

  34. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:50 pm

    He’s like that one back.

  35. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:51 pm

    I miss those days.

  36. Dave on August 24th, 2007 5:51 pm

    Those were good days.

  37. Tropics iRE on August 24th, 2007 5:52 pm

    giddyup

  38. Tropics iRE on August 24th, 2007 5:52 pm

    giddyup Felix

  39. Teej on August 24th, 2007 5:53 pm

    Did he just refer to Felix as “The next big thing in pitching circles”? That cracks me up.

  40. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:53 pm

    Next year is when Guillen blows up, though, and not in the good way. One-year gamble, paid off, now move on.

  41. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:54 pm

    Fastball.

  42. Tropics iRE on August 24th, 2007 5:55 pm

    i am sure Guillen would not be for this option…. but i have long advocated this for all players…. 1-2 yr contracts only!!

  43. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 5:56 pm

    What’s the Crap Machine? Also, Churchill says the Indians got Salcedo? Does anyone (Dave) know if this is true, or if we still have a chance?

  44. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 5:57 pm

    Looks like we have breaking ball Felix today.

  45. JMB on August 24th, 2007 5:59 pm

    Crap Machine was my nickname for Bret Boone. Early in 2001, before he starting putting up ridiculous numbers, I came up with it after what seemed like yet another GIDP. He started hitting, of course, but I kept on calling him Crap Machine so he didn’t get too comfortable.

  46. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:00 pm

    Good times.

    hay, Jason, do you have a Mariner Blue toque?

  47. DMZ on August 24th, 2007 6:01 pm

    Way to put some “T” into tonight’s broadcast there, FSN.

  48. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 6:02 pm

    We seem to be hitting Millwood pretty hard so far.

  49. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 6:04 pm

    FSN is putting the “FU” in “FUN.”

  50. sf-seattle on August 24th, 2007 6:04 pm

    ouch — varitek & lowe — for heathcliff… yikes

  51. Tropics iRE on August 24th, 2007 6:05 pm

    whats with the “bunt” “no bunt” … if your gonna move em over move em over

  52. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:06 pm

    #46– um, ‘hey’. hard to type when also eating a popsicle.

    #47– did they run the Best Damn Hookers Hooters contest ad again, or was it a lissome Texas lass in the stands?

  53. Tropics iRE on August 24th, 2007 6:06 pm

    good job Ichi!!

  54. pygmalion on August 24th, 2007 6:07 pm

    Like I said last night, Ichiro is always due.

  55. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 6:07 pm

    The Rangers announcers are talking about how during the Slocumb/Lowe/Veritek trade negotiations, their GM thought he was being offered either Lowe or Veritek and he was willing to do the trade, and then realized he was being offered both. Of course the two clowns broadcasting the Rangers can’t be the most reliable source, but wouldn’t it be logical to see if you could get Slocumb for one, before offering both? :)

  56. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 6:07 pm

    Ichiro is a machine

  57. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 6:08 pm

    The worst part about Felix playing is that I can’t bring myself to go get something to eat, lest I miss one of his wicked pitches.

  58. Dave on August 24th, 2007 6:09 pm

    That story’s a myth, David.

  59. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 6:09 pm

    If only that trade was a myth.

  60. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:10 pm

    one that never goes away, though, like the Henderson/Olerud/helmet fable.

  61. Mr. Egaas on August 24th, 2007 6:11 pm

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard that one…

  62. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:12 pm

    which one?

  63. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 6:12 pm

    62… the one about the rabbi, the clown, and the duck.

  64. Teej on August 24th, 2007 6:14 pm

    In my mind, I pretend that the Henderson/Olerud/helmet fable is true, because it’s so damn funny.

  65. Mr. Egaas on August 24th, 2007 6:15 pm

    The Henderson/Olerud/helmet one. Please enlighten me.

  66. Dave on August 24th, 2007 6:16 pm

    Felix’s slider has recently become more vertical drop and less horizontal break. It’s almost acting like a splitter now.

  67. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 6:18 pm

    66: Any comment about its effectiveness or are you just going to state the fact?

  68. dnc on August 24th, 2007 6:19 pm

    Dave, do you see that as good, bad or indifferent for him going forward?

  69. billT on August 24th, 2007 6:19 pm

    Re: Felix’s slider…

    Is this a cause for concern?

  70. Teej on August 24th, 2007 6:19 pm

    Mr. Egaas, I’m copying this from something on Sporting News:

    With the Mariners, Rickey walked up to John Olerud at the batting cage and asked him why he wore a batting helmet in the field. Olerud explained that he had an aneurysm at nine years old and he wore the helmet for protection.

    Rickey replied, “Yeah, I used to play with a guy that had the same thing.”

    Olerud said, “That was me, Rickey.”

  71. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 6:19 pm

    And the fable goes?

  72. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 6:20 pm

    Haha, Guillen’s an animal on the basepaths.

  73. Teej on August 24th, 2007 6:20 pm

    Ballsy baserunning, guys. NICE.

  74. terry on August 24th, 2007 6:20 pm

    Olerud might possibly be the funniest major leaguer in the history of the major leagues…well, he’s one of my favorites anyway….

    Concerning the greatness of Guillen, his bat has been probably as good as we could’ve hoped but his defense has given back alot too….

  75. Dave on August 24th, 2007 6:20 pm

    Well, it’s still dropping like a rock, so I’m not going to say it’s good or bad – for now, it’s just an observation.

  76. pensive on August 24th, 2007 6:20 pm

    Dave#66 Is that a better result? Or too much like splitter?

    His pitches do look quite nasty this evening. Whatever they are. Good results.

  77. JMB on August 24th, 2007 6:22 pm

    hay, Jason, do you have a Mariner Blue toque?

    Thankfully no. No toques at Houston’s. And I am off to Houston’s now — we’re moving to Atlanta.

  78. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 6:24 pm

    So is Millwood a really overpaid league average starter having a bad year?

  79. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:24 pm

    #70– (just to be pedantic, Olerud was in college when he had his brain aneurysm)

    After Rickey & Olerud had denied (repeatedly) that it had ever happened, it was confessed by the Mets that a non-field employee told it as an in-house joke and when it started showing up on ESPN and all the newswires, they couldn’t believe it :)

  80. pensive on August 24th, 2007 6:26 pm

    Jason, You didn’t like Sonoma County or the Napa area?

  81. Teej on August 24th, 2007 6:27 pm

    #70– (just to be pedantic, Olerud was in college when he had his brain aneurysm)

    As a Coug, I should have spotted that during my meticulous copying and pasting. :)

    It’s crazy, though, how something like that can take off.

  82. dnc on August 24th, 2007 6:27 pm

    79 – that raiseas an interesting question – have two players ever been teammates on three different teams before, ala Rickey and Ole?

  83. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:27 pm

    And I am off to Houston’s now — we’re moving to Atlanta.

    wow– congratulations! I assume that is a good thing?

  84. terry on August 24th, 2007 6:28 pm

    Knowing Ricky, it’s not an unbelievable story…

  85. Dave on August 24th, 2007 6:29 pm

    Yea, that thing is nasty, even if its not moving like his normal slider.

  86. Teej on August 24th, 2007 6:30 pm

    This new slider almost looks like Lincecum’s curve: fast, hard and straight down.

    (Sorry, I have a mancrush on Tim Lincecum.)

  87. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 6:30 pm

    Hey, the Braves just released the veteren right handed setup man we’ve been coveting all along!

  88. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 6:31 pm

    As long as Felix keeps his AL rank 6th K/9 ratio, AL 11th rank K/BB ratio, and AL 2nd best GB/FB ratio… I’m happy (this is for starters with at least 120 IP).
    So he’s awesome no matter what his pitches do.

  89. Dave on August 24th, 2007 6:31 pm

    This is what Felix looks like when everything is down in the zone. Just brutal.

  90. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 6:32 pm

    Felix is dealing tonight whatever he’s throwing.

  91. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:32 pm

    #81– just google it, and you see how it still lives on.

    a USA Today article this month (when Rickey became a coach for the Mets) identified a Mets trainer as the original storyteller– which didn’t stop the story from coming up again on the various Met blogs :)

  92. terry on August 24th, 2007 6:33 pm

    Felix has to feel invincible tonight…

  93. JMB on August 24th, 2007 6:33 pm

    No, Napa was great. But I knew it was temporary, just for the manager-in-training program.

    And yes, it’s a good thing. I get a title now — Assistant Kitchen Manager — and a raise. Plus the cost of living is far superior to Napa (or LA, which was another possibility).

  94. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:34 pm

    “That is probably one of the most ridiculous stories in America,” Henderson says. “Totally made up.”

    Then he smiles and chuckles.

    “But it’s a good story.”

  95. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:35 pm

    I get a title now — Assistant Kitchen Manager — and a raise.

    so you can afford the A.C., then :)

  96. JMB on August 24th, 2007 6:37 pm

    Our electric bill here is plenty, believe me. But now it’s back to the East Coast… yay humidity! And I’ll be about four hours away from Dave, so we can catch a minor league game or two.

  97. msb on August 24th, 2007 6:38 pm

    a few questions.

    is it a good thing or a sad thing when the last position player of the 9 to get to 50 RBIs is your DH?

    is Kenji going to get a day off at some point? in the 90 degree Texas weather? after playing all those games on turf?

    is it so hard to give your pitcher a litle more run support, when he is pitching in such a feelthy way?

  98. DMZ on August 24th, 2007 6:40 pm

    I finally put up a revised “Suggested Reading List” link (see the top of the page) after many requests.

    Is there a better title? “Read these to have better discussions”? “Please, please read these”?

  99. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 6:40 pm

    Sims on Feirabend… “He’ll get called up when the rosters expand… Extra arm in the bu… er, on the staff.” What are the chances he takes over Ho-Ram’s spot for another try?

  100. Dave on August 24th, 2007 6:41 pm

    This is a hall of fame arm against a Triple-A line-up. Man, he’s just blowing them away.

  101. sf-seattle on August 24th, 2007 6:41 pm

    77 — who? soriano?

  102. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 6:41 pm

    “Rickey replied, “Yeah, I used to play with a guy that had the same thing.””

    Just that should tell you the story is false. Rickey would have said “Yeah, Rickey used to play with a guy…”

  103. pumpkinhead on August 24th, 2007 6:43 pm

    Don’t jinx it Dave!

    Soon to come: Statistical Analysis of Jinxes and how they impact trade value.

  104. DMZ on August 24th, 2007 6:43 pm

    That “Rickey talks in the 3rd person” thing is totally exaggerated, like the story about him.

  105. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 6:43 pm

    I’m going to go out on a limb and predict that the Rangers won’t score 30 tonight.

  106. sf-seattle on August 24th, 2007 6:43 pm

    So how bad are the O’s? Swept by us and gave up 30 runs to the Rangers (struck out 17x against Santana and now Felix is shutting them down)? Or maybe Johan and Felix are just that GOOD…

  107. Jack Howland on August 24th, 2007 6:43 pm

    Willits at DH and Anderson in LF?!? Is McLaren managing the Angels now?

  108. Carson on August 24th, 2007 6:44 pm

    Okay, I’ve also figured that Rickey comment was a joke to Olerud. Rickey may be a little off, but he’s not stupid.

    BTW, isn’t Ichiro about the closest thing we have to a modern day Rickey, personality wise?

  109. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 6:45 pm

    Isn’t Anderson hogging LF in Anaheim worse than our situation with Ibanez?

  110. sf-seattle on August 24th, 2007 6:47 pm

    Who’d take Anderson and his 10 RBI over Rauuul?

  111. JMB on August 24th, 2007 6:48 pm

    They’re still killing the ball, even on outs.

  112. SeattleDan on August 24th, 2007 6:51 pm

    Good reading list, DMZ. Thanks for the update.

  113. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 6:51 pm

    Felix is making John McLaren look competent!

  114. JMB on August 24th, 2007 6:55 pm

    Sit down.

  115. Notor on August 24th, 2007 6:55 pm

    KKKKKKK

    Daaaaaaaaaamn Felix!

  116. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 6:56 pm

    I find it amazing that the M’s can win at all, much less leading the wild card race, with the decisions made by Bavasi, McLaren & Co….

  117. Notor on August 24th, 2007 6:58 pm

    Oh come on.

    That was not a hit.

  118. maalox on August 24th, 2007 6:58 pm

    That was the stupidest base hit I’ve ever seen

  119. JMB on August 24th, 2007 6:58 pm

    The Rangers announcers missed the answer to one of my favorite trivia questions — Vida Blue. Vida Blue, the pitcher, was AL MVP — and a switch-hitter — in 1971.

  120. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 6:59 pm

    Bollocks.

  121. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 6:59 pm

    well, eventually the dumb decisions by this ballclub had to catch up with them…

  122. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 6:59 pm

    ohshi…

  123. JMB on August 24th, 2007 6:59 pm

    Aw, crap. Things were going so well.

  124. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 7:00 pm

    I wanna see Felix put one in someone’s ribs after a homer =)

  125. pensive on August 24th, 2007 7:00 pm

    Now we know what Clemens would do to that rookie the next time up.

  126. Notor on August 24th, 2007 7:01 pm

    I hate this ballpark, right field is a JOKE. That’s a double in any other park.

  127. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 7:02 pm

    They mentioned that the wind was blowing out that way too. Not that it helped a line drive too much.

  128. msb on August 24th, 2007 7:03 pm

    dammit. I blame Dave Sims who was waay overdoing the Felix Love.

    That “Rickey talks in the 3rd person” thing is totally exaggerated

    but of course mnay versions of the story have him saying ‘Rickey used to play…’

  129. John D. on August 24th, 2007 7:04 pm

    “Over at the PI, John Marshall names his top picks of this year’s baseball books. I’m of course disappointed The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball isn’t on there (No love for the local? Really?)…”

    What’s with these people, ignoring the local ties?
    Former Seattlite Megan Kelso is just winding up a three-year run on a comic strip that appears in THE NEW YORK TIMES. Couldn’t we have picked that up, and DFA’d one of our veteran strips?
    It’d be one thing if “CHEATER’S” didn’t have it, but it does.

  130. msb on August 24th, 2007 7:04 pm

    someone hit Millwood again.

  131. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:06 pm

    Joh needs to get a day off or talk to Pentland or something different the very routine GB to SS needs to stop.

  132. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 7:08 pm

    I can’t believe Raul caught that.

  133. pensive on August 24th, 2007 7:08 pm

    msb–it maybe time for you to make some
    rally brownies.

  134. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 7:08 pm

    129… dude, you can’t get rid of “Beetle Bailey” or “B.C.”

  135. dnc on August 24th, 2007 7:09 pm

    131 – he has an .890 OPS in his last 7 games, so I think you may be overreacting a wee bit.

  136. msb on August 24th, 2007 7:09 pm

    I disagree with Neihaus.

    90 degrees at 9pm is not a ‘balmy & warm night’

  137. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:10 pm

    His 19 GIDP agree with me.

  138. msb on August 24th, 2007 7:11 pm

    think it would work if I just announced that I was off to make brownies?

  139. Dan W on August 24th, 2007 7:11 pm

    Felix’s L/R splits make me nervous every time a lefty comes up, regardless of how well he is throwing.

    True – relax and enjoy the game – the Mariners are a good team!

  140. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 7:11 pm

    Summer’s in Texas are brutal. I used to live near the ballpark in Arlington. AC is a must.

  141. Teej on August 24th, 2007 7:12 pm

    Joh is fine. This is the kind of hitter he is. He’s a dead pull hitter. He’ll hit homers and hard doubles, but he’s also going to ground out to 3b or SS a lot. I don’t think that’s going to change based on rest.

  142. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 7:12 pm

    136… it is during August in Texas!

  143. msb on August 24th, 2007 7:14 pm

    dammit.

    I’m going to go make brownies.

  144. awolfgang on August 24th, 2007 7:14 pm

    #126, you’re right, RF is a joke in this park, and there is Millwood is right-handed, so why the hell!!!!! is BB on the bench??????????

  145. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:15 pm

    141- I know but its just hard to watch. It is one of the things I should not bother getting angry at when we have a record like this but I can’t help it.

  146. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 7:16 pm

    143… I’ll take mine with walnuts.

  147. Steve T on August 24th, 2007 7:17 pm

    We ARE a good team, aren’t we? Third-best in baseball, and we could be second-best tomorrow — heck, we could have the best record in baseball in four days if all falls accordingly. It won’t, but it sure beats August 24, 2006.

  148. pygmalion on August 24th, 2007 7:22 pm

    Last August was awful. I was back in Seattle for eight days and the Mariners lost every day I was back. I arrived hopeful and left hopeless.

  149. dnc on August 24th, 2007 7:23 pm

    137 – no, his 19 GIDP suggests that this isn’t something that’s going to change with a day off or a talk with the hitting coach.

  150. pensive on August 24th, 2007 7:23 pm

    msb–Yep, the power of suggestion is at times more powerful than reality.

    Plus no one will know if the brownies are being created.

  151. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:23 pm

    Love me some Jose!

  152. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 7:24 pm

    That’s fucking ridiculous. He didn’t tag him.

  153. thewyrm on August 24th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Guillen was so F’n safe on that play.

  154. pensive on August 24th, 2007 7:25 pm

    Wow msb. The power of the brownie.

    Time for a new USSM T-Shirt.

  155. wcf51 on August 24th, 2007 7:26 pm

    random question: what is “pinging”?

  156. Teej on August 24th, 2007 7:26 pm

    I thought I saw the ball pop out anyway, but I’m watching it on MLB.tv, so it easily could have been a bird flying by. Or another player.

  157. pygmalion on August 24th, 2007 7:26 pm

    What?

  158. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 7:26 pm

    Why is Felix out?

  159. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:26 pm

    149- It isn’t going to change but it also means I wasn’t over reacting. It shows he grounds out a lot and is slow. His last 7 games mean nothing to me, thought we would have all learned that by now.

  160. Dave on August 24th, 2007 7:27 pm

    If Felix asked out, okay. If he didn’t, this is a fireable offense.

  161. zzyzx on August 24th, 2007 7:27 pm

    I thought I saw a tag on the arm after the missed tag.

  162. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 7:28 pm

    why the f*ck is Felix taken out? is McLaren retarded?

  163. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:28 pm

    Wow Yuni… That was NICE.

  164. Teej on August 24th, 2007 7:28 pm

    Why’s Felix out at 84 pitches? Late in the season and they want to limit his workload? Seems odd.

  165. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 7:28 pm

    It’s kind of strange that Felix is out after 84 pitches. I guess we’re just trying to rest our starters for the stretch run, but it’s kind of risky to use your bullpen an inning or two early when the game might reach extras.

  166. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 7:29 pm

    I know the managers make the decisions for the best of the team. but what if the manager is a retard?

  167. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 7:29 pm

    “We took Felix out to give Rick White some work.” – not a quote, yet

  168. wcf51 on August 24th, 2007 7:29 pm

    just 84 pitches for the king!

  169. pygmalion on August 24th, 2007 7:29 pm

    Maybe the heat?

  170. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Saving his arm would seem at odds with trotting Ibanez in LF every day.

  171. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Pitching in long sleeves in that heat had to take a toll.

  172. Dave on August 24th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Felix asked out of a game in Texas earlier this year. He may have felt like he was just gassed in the heat.

    But yea, if this is a manager’s decision, it’s a terrible one.

  173. dnc on August 24th, 2007 7:31 pm

    159 – I understand his last 7 games have no predictive value, but this whole discussion began with you saying he needs a day off. A poor recent performance wouldn’t necessarily mean he needs a day off (it would probably just be random variance), but a solid recent performance clearly suggests that he doesn’t need one.

  174. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 7:31 pm

    I’m actually kind of worried about this, regarding the reason Felix had to leave…I guess we’ll know soon enough.

  175. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:33 pm

    173- True, I know. It is more of a personal pet peeve to watch that I wish I didn’t have to watch.

  176. huhwhat on August 24th, 2007 7:33 pm

    Didn’t McLaren say in his pregame show with Niehaus that due to the heat they would be monitoring Felix and it was possible they would take him out earlier than usual.

    Personally I could be wrong, it’s just what I remember hearing come from McLaren’s mouth while I was driving to catch the game.

  177. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 7:33 pm

    oh great. Brandon Morrow. guess it’s going to be him to blow the win for Felix…

  178. Non Hippo on August 24th, 2007 7:34 pm

    Help a Moron.

    1) Does Felix ever throw a 4-seamer and if so what is the velocity difference between that and the two seamer.

    2) Why did McLaren take out Felix?

  179. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 7:36 pm

    Angels up 1-0

  180. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Did the Rangers announcers just say Morrow was a closer in college and is being groomed to be our closer of the future?

  181. pensive on August 24th, 2007 7:39 pm

    # 155–Pinging is when another site writes an entry that references one of
    our posts. In the world of blogging, if pinging’s turned on, along
    with comments, those references show up, like:

    1. Bob
    “I sure do like pancakes. Mmmmm.”

    2. Joe’s Blog of Goodness Wrote in entry _USSM talks about Adam Jones_
    “… one of the advantages USS Mariner writes about (link) is outfield
    flexibility…”

    and so on.

    Does that help?

  182. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 7:39 pm

    Crap. Make that 2-0, Angels.

  183. (Expletive) Dave Samson on August 24th, 2007 7:41 pm

    If only we didn’t have Sean, Matt, AND Rick White at the same time.

  184. pensive on August 24th, 2007 7:42 pm

    #181 -Was written to me by DMZ. I just copied. DMZ gets all the credit. “our posts” refers to USSM authors.

  185. Slippery Elmer on August 24th, 2007 7:42 pm

    The M’s don’t usually lose this type of game, do they? Their strong bullpen generally preserves one-run leads, IIRC.

  186. Slippery Elmer on August 24th, 2007 7:44 pm

    Beltre with another unforced DP on the basepaths…

  187. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 7:45 pm

    the 2nd base ump must be in on the take from the Rangers or something.

  188. HamNasty on August 24th, 2007 7:45 pm

    No Beltre’s fault he was stealing.

  189. JMB on August 24th, 2007 7:46 pm

    Uh, was that even close? Looked like Beltre was in there no problem.

  190. Jack Perconte Dreamin on August 24th, 2007 7:46 pm

    he was safe. that was a pretty obvious blown call.

  191. pumpkinhead on August 24th, 2007 7:47 pm

    It appeared to me he was quite safe.

  192. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 7:47 pm

    Beltre was stealing third with Richie “three swings and a cloud of dust” Sexson at the plate?

  193. FrayLo on August 24th, 2007 7:47 pm

    I say there’s no way Beltre was out on that call. I wanna see it again.

  194. JMB on August 24th, 2007 7:48 pm

    Sexson is large, thereby getting in the way of the throw down to 3rd. Easy steal.

  195. JMB on August 24th, 2007 7:49 pm

    2-0 Angels?!

  196. drew 18 on August 24th, 2007 7:50 pm

    nice of FSN to show the replay…

  197. Teej on August 24th, 2007 7:51 pm

    They showed a replay on the Texas feed, but it was from the worst possible angle, directly behind Beltre’s back where we couldn’t see his hands touch the bag.

  198. FrayLo on August 24th, 2007 7:52 pm

    stay the hell out of the way, Guillen. that’s Ichiro’s ball.

  199. FrayLo on August 24th, 2007 7:53 pm

    that ball, on the other hand, is yours, Jose.

  200. argh on August 24th, 2007 7:53 pm

    We may need to name this the “Guillen Texas Series” if he gets one more good game out of it.

  201. JMB on August 24th, 2007 7:53 pm

    Whew.

  202. drew 18 on August 24th, 2007 7:54 pm

    Good job Morrow and M’s D!

  203. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 7:54 pm

    195 – yes, 2-0, but it’s just top of 3.

  204. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 7:55 pm

    I’m going to pour myself a Rally Fat Tire to help us get some insurance runs here.

  205. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 7:58 pm

    When was the last time Lopez got a big hit?

  206. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 7:59 pm

    Putz and Borowski are tied for the saves lead. Hopefully Putz can get the save so he can be the better closer :)

  207. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 8:00 pm

    Yay reverse jinx works.

  208. pygmalion on August 24th, 2007 8:00 pm

    205 Yesterday?

  209. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 8:01 pm

    That was a sick catch

  210. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 8:01 pm

    Jose Vidro sucks.

  211. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 8:01 pm

    That was a nice grab.

  212. Teej on August 24th, 2007 8:01 pm

    YES! They’re playing the “FSN Fade to Commercial” music on the PA again. I love it. So ridiculous.

  213. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 8:02 pm

    Screw the infield single Ichiro, yank one out

  214. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 8:03 pm

    212: you mean the PA at the stadium?

  215. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 8:04 pm

    On second thought, hooray for the infield single!

  216. lailaihei on August 24th, 2007 8:04 pm

    213: Ichiro does what he wants.

  217. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Ichiro, on the other hand, does not. He and Felix make McLaren look like a competent manager.

  218. Teej on August 24th, 2007 8:04 pm

    212: you mean the PA at the stadium?

    I believe so. It might just be on TV, but I thought someone here at USSM mentioned earlier in the season that Texas plays it on the PA after great plays. I could definitely be wrong.

  219. drew 18 on August 24th, 2007 8:04 pm

    haha infield single!

  220. apunetid on August 24th, 2007 8:05 pm

    Ichiro now leading MLB in batting average.

  221. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 8:05 pm

    Turbo power!

  222. Slippery Elmer on August 24th, 2007 8:05 pm

    Clutch hit by Vidro!

  223. true_slicky on August 24th, 2007 8:05 pm

    despite the RBI Vidro still sucks, and the M’s season has been worse off with him as the DH.

  224. Slippery Elmer on August 24th, 2007 8:05 pm

    “Ichiro now leading MLB in batting average.”

    It’s about time.

  225. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 8:06 pm

    Never doubt the power of the Rally Fat Tire

  226. maalox on August 24th, 2007 8:06 pm

    Well, if they can have a check-swing base hit, I think we can have a dropped ball for an insurance run.

  227. maalox on August 24th, 2007 8:06 pm

    Well, if they can have a check-swing base hit, I think we can have a dropped ball for an insurance run.

  228. Jack Howland on August 24th, 2007 8:06 pm

    Ichiro just passed Frank Crosetti for 523rd place on the all time hit list.

  229. JMB on August 24th, 2007 8:06 pm

    A Paul Byrd-like performance from Milwood.

  230. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 8:07 pm

    Get a hit, Jose… Let’s give AJ an AB!

  231. Slippery Elmer on August 24th, 2007 8:07 pm

    [...]

  232. kmsandrbs on August 24th, 2007 8:08 pm

    I vote for a walk and a salami.

  233. FrayLo on August 24th, 2007 8:08 pm

    **btw, that was the stadium PA playing the MLB FSN music.

  234. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 8:09 pm

    I second that, 232.

  235. Teej on August 24th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Or are you just a liberal?

    That definitely seems relevant to the conversation.

  236. jack_per_conte on August 24th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Let us light up Frankie the Chair.

  237. Dave on August 24th, 2007 8:14 pm

    true slicky has been added to the mod queue. You can safely ignore his previous comments.

  238. kmsandrbs on August 24th, 2007 8:15 pm

    It is so nice to get to the ninth and feel confidence …

  239. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 8:16 pm

    Looked like JJ had some movement on that one. Nice pitch.

  240. Carson on August 24th, 2007 8:18 pm

    Was Brandon Morrow just lip synching “Thunderstruck?”

  241. jack_per_conte on August 24th, 2007 8:20 pm

    Beltre kind of looked like me this evening when I was trying to, in my stockings, catch the ice cream that slipped off its cone in my kitchen.

  242. jack_per_conte on August 24th, 2007 8:20 pm

    1/2 game!

  243. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 8:20 pm

    I think he was, Carson. Hard to tell for sure.

  244. Jay R. on August 24th, 2007 8:20 pm

    Nice win.

  245. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Woo-Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  246. JMB on August 24th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Well that was fun.

    I’m going to cook myself a nice ribeye, pour an adult beverage, and finish packing.

  247. Carson on August 24th, 2007 8:23 pm

    Hahaha. Anyone with a DVR, rewind to the 0-2 count before JJ got the K for out #2. Morrow definately was singing Thunderstruck. Hilarious!

  248. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 8:23 pm

    Yes! Now let’s go Blue Jays!

  249. kmsandrbs on August 24th, 2007 8:24 pm

    Yankee update …

    After NY got the first two runners on, they failed to score in the top of the first.

  250. msb on August 24th, 2007 8:25 pm

    phew.

    I couldn’t make brownies again, but I superstitioned myself into baking, so my dad is getting brownies and toffee bars tomorrow.

    oh, and with pecans, not walnuts.

  251. Slippery Elmer on August 24th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Teej:
    “That definitely seems relevant to the conversation.J”

    Sorry, it was supposed to be tongue in cheek.

    Anyhow, “37–in a row?”
    Putz would be nails in the playoffs.

  252. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 8:26 pm

    It’s funny to hear Putz talk about how hot it is with a JACKET on… I mean, I know it’s important for his arm not to tighten up, but that seems crazy.

  253. kmsandrbs on August 24th, 2007 8:29 pm

    Detroit up 2-0 on the Yankees

  254. kmsandrbs on August 24th, 2007 8:30 pm

    Oh … and Ichiro not first in batting average anymore (at least, not for now)

  255. apunetid on August 24th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Boy, the Yankees and Tigers are going to be playing until around 2:00 (Eastern time). No MLB Fastcast for tonight!

  256. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Not sure how true it is, but Krueger just said Mac took Felix out “because he wanted to play match-ups.” WOW.

  257. cgmonk on August 24th, 2007 8:47 pm

    McLaren says Felix got tired on the post game show and Ichiro will get a full day off tomorrow and will not DH.

  258. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 8:51 pm

    Glad to hear Krueger was just wrong…

  259. JMB on August 24th, 2007 8:51 pm

    Hey, that should mean Jones!

  260. msb on August 24th, 2007 8:55 pm

    well, thank you Mac. Now, how about Joh?

  261. msb on August 24th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Drayer reports that Felix asked out due to heat and humidity, and that she was teasing him after the game:

    Felix: … too hot!

    Drayer: Felix! you’re from Venezuela!

    Felix: I am from Seattle.

  262. msb on August 24th, 2007 9:10 pm

    watching Sportscenter — are you really “sneaking up on the playoffs” if you are (almost) tied for first in the division, and leading the wild card race?

    ah, once BBTN comes on, there is a bit more love for the Ms

  263. The Unknown Comic on August 24th, 2007 9:32 pm

    #262

    Technically no but I can understand what they are saying. I sure didn’t see the Mariners being this good this year. Don’t know if they are getting lucky or what but it sure is fun. I think the good karma of Raul Ibanez is rubbing off on the team or something.

  264. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 9:36 pm

    GO JAYS! Maybe K-Rod can blow this one.

  265. beck21 on August 24th, 2007 9:37 pm

    Wow. Look a little like some of the Mariners. Two straight walks and Hill swings at the first pitch.

  266. Mr. Egaas on August 24th, 2007 9:38 pm

    C’mon Zaunny!

  267. Mr. Egaas on August 24th, 2007 9:41 pm

    First place will have to wait for another day.

  268. Typical Idiot Fan on August 24th, 2007 9:42 pm

    Bah, useless Toronto Blue Jays.

  269. ds on August 24th, 2007 9:52 pm

    Detroit 6, Yankees 3

  270. Sports on a Schtick on August 24th, 2007 10:41 pm

    Do my eyes deceive me, or is USSM sporting a different look when you click to comment on this topic?

  271. dcmarinerfan on August 24th, 2007 10:49 pm

    Yankees 6 – Tigers 6 — Joba Chamberlain taking the mound for the bottom of the 7th.

  272. Notor on August 24th, 2007 11:08 pm

    Wouldn’t it be funny if this game went into extra innings and they ended up playing baseball until 4 AM?

  273. Catherwood on August 24th, 2007 11:35 pm

    anyone know why posada got ejected in the NY/DET game? Arguing balls and strikes?

  274. Joof on August 24th, 2007 11:39 pm

    Well, according to Gameday, all three strikes called on him were outside. Assuming Gameday is correct, it’s likely that he thought he got hosed, and let the Umpire know.

  275. Catherwood on August 24th, 2007 11:45 pm

    I think it’s a little odd that the only game still going is the one on “the east coast” (I also thought it was weird, when I lived in Michigan, that we were on Eastern Time!).

    All those poor sports reporters drinking coffee….

  276. rsrobinson on August 24th, 2007 11:45 pm

    Yeah Posada was arguing balls and strikes, to put it mildly. He got into a shouting match with the umpire.

  277. Catherwood on August 24th, 2007 11:50 pm

    Ahhh, frack. Now we have to pull for Mags to hit one out.

  278. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 11:53 pm

    This is some of the worst ball/strike umpiring I’ve ever seen. Everything remotely close is a strike. This guy just wants to get over with and go home.

  279. _David_ on August 24th, 2007 11:54 pm

    Is there a curfew rule? Could this go until EST dawn?

  280. joser on August 24th, 2007 11:59 pm

    Yeah, for once it’s not the M’s playing the last game of the night. What time did that NYY-DET game finally start? I thought for sure it would be postponed and they’ve have a double-header on the weekend. But hey, here’s hoping it goes into extra innings and they both blow out their bullpens. The more worn down they both get the better.

  281. Karen on August 25th, 2007 12:00 am

    #278. You know, the Yanks fans over at nyyfans.com, the ReplacementLevelYWeblog, and the LoHud Yankee Blog are STILL crying over the Bloomquist 3-feet-short-slide-at-2B safe call, so you know these ball/strike calls against their team are just killing them.

    Now would be a good time for Mariano Rivera to have another meltdown…

  282. _David_ on August 25th, 2007 12:04 am

    productive out!

  283. _David_ on August 25th, 2007 12:04 am

    It started at about 7:45

  284. Catherwood on August 25th, 2007 12:04 am

    way to get it done, Carlos!

  285. rsrobinson on August 25th, 2007 12:08 am

    These are some hardcore fans still at the game. I’m fading fast here on the west coast.

  286. Dave S. on August 25th, 2007 12:12 am

    Wow. It’s 3:07 AM there and still playing baseball. I kind of want to see this game last 14 innings now.

  287. Karen on August 25th, 2007 12:14 am

    Rivera didn’t give up the GW run, but he pitched more balls than strikes: 12K, 13B. One would suppose he isn’t pitching 2 innings…

  288. joser on August 25th, 2007 12:16 am

    Yeah, can you imagine? Still playing as the sun starts to come up? We’ve already had one ridiculous/unprecedented game this week, how about another? Seriously — snowstorms, resigning managers, questionable home run records, 30-3 games with a save… it’s been a weird, weird season. And there’s still a lot of games left to play.

  289. Karen on August 25th, 2007 12:19 am

    Those beady little eyes and scary grin from Giambi staring at me from the GameDay pic…almost but not quite as scary as Dave Duncan’s son Shelly.

  290. Dave S. on August 25th, 2007 12:21 am

    Bottom 11. Top of the order – got to love how FSN Detroit didn’t update the lineup to reflect Casey now in the game.

  291. Karen on August 25th, 2007 12:23 am

    Curtis Granderson would have some pretty interesting things to say about his game on his blog if he wrapped things up here, now.

  292. Dave S. on August 25th, 2007 12:26 am

    It would have given him the cycle, but nope.

  293. frankb. on August 25th, 2007 12:33 am

    If Ichiro gets the day off we may see Adam Jones AND Ben Broussard. I’m thinking that BB’s lack of playing time is because McLaren wants to keep a LH bat on the bench for PH situations. The regular lineup includes Ichiro, Ibanez, and Vidro, so I think he won’t platoon at 1st to keep that last LH bat available.

  294. _David_ on August 25th, 2007 12:36 am

    So that trade finally starts to pay off.

  295. Dave S. on August 25th, 2007 12:36 am

    GUILLEN! WALK OFF JOB!

  296. rsrobinson on August 25th, 2007 12:37 am

    Carlos Guillen with the 3:30 am walkoff!

  297. lefthand on August 25th, 2007 12:37 am

    WOO HOO 3 game lead over NY!

  298. Steve T on August 25th, 2007 12:39 am

    P.S. — Derek, Shaughnessy is a prong, he’ll start writing poems next. Your book is much better.

  299. _David_ on August 25th, 2007 12:40 am

    Carlos with a pretty sweet .890 OPS this year.

  300. Notor on August 25th, 2007 12:42 am

    Yanks lose!

    A 3 game lead is HUGE at this time of year. I don’t want to aim for the wildcard at all but it’s nice to know we have a pretty decent cushion going into the tough part of our schedule.

  301. earinc on August 25th, 2007 12:43 am

    Thank you, TB!

  302. Notor on August 25th, 2007 12:46 am

    Plus New York pretty much friend everyone in their bullpen while Detroit did slightly better. This is a great outcome….thank you idiotic umps who insisted and waiting out a rain delay for 4 hours!

  303. Notor on August 25th, 2007 12:46 am

    Err, that should say “insisted on”

  304. Notor on August 25th, 2007 12:47 am

    And “Fried” not “friend”, jesus it’s late….

  305. joser on August 25th, 2007 12:57 am

    Actually, you can thank the TV networks rather than the umps. Apparently the broadcast windows are such that they couldn’t schedule a double-header for either Saturday or Sunday, which just left Monday — which would have been a double-header on the travel day, an option neither team liked. At least that’s the word over on the Yankees blog (where I went for another delicious dose of Schademfreude)

    Speaking of which, tomorrow’s national AL game on Fox is All Sox — the brutal Red vs the hapless White. That’s a snooze, even if you enjoy watching Ortiz & Co. pummel people.

  306. Notor on August 25th, 2007 1:52 am

    Really though, they could’ve just made this game up on an off day sometime in the future. 4 hours is way too long to wait out a delay no matter what the circumstances…

    I’m very happy it has handicapped the Yankees both tonight and for many nights to come due to their BP use but I still don’t see much justification for the two playing at all tonight.

    So uhh, I’m happy with it, just recognizing that it was an extremely stupid move to make this game go forward.

  307. GD on August 25th, 2007 2:10 am

    More sweet and entertaining breakfast reading here in Europe.

    Re: Shaughnessy’s father-son book. Is there a time in a sportswriter’s life that he feels he has to do one? Lupica of the NY Daily News wrote a really tedious one about the McGwire-Sosa race (yeah, how’s that one working out?)

    I’d rather read a Richard Ford novel.

  308. frannyzoo on August 25th, 2007 7:51 am

    How is that new Richard Ford (newish) novel, anyway? The other two Frank Bascombe books are pretty darn good. As for the umps and the ridiculous late start/finish of the Yanks game, the blame goes to mlb and its stupid subservience to television. Yet, if that subservience leads to the Yanks being extra tired for a week during the pennant race, is that a bad thing?

    I’m a little surprised Yankee nation hasn’t gotten torches and moved as a mob toward Dr. Selig’s mansion yet.

  309. ajdaddy on August 25th, 2007 8:33 am

    The MLB front office will find a way to delay a start so the Yanks can have time to recover. And if I hear one peep about how the Yankees are tired, or it wasn’t fair, I will freak out! how about the M’s flying 85 times to Cleveland? Screw the Yanks, and I’m glad they took the stomach punch loss this morning! And baseball haiku? Geez, even hacks like me try that stuff…as long as I get my syllables right. Now try sarcastic baseball haiku…that would be more fun. CHEATER’S GUIDE TO BASEBALL RULES! (yelled in the same tone as ‘San Dimas football rules’ for all of you bill and ted fans)

  310. Karen on August 25th, 2007 10:04 am

    Oh, you won’t hear any peeps from fans, anyway, about how screwed by MLB the Yankees were — at least 2 Yankee fan boards are in meltdown (“internal server error”).

    Whenever those boards come back on line, you’ll see complaints about:
    1. Sean Henn, DFA him!
    2. The umpires.
    3. The rain.
    4. Detroit fans.
    5. Selig (although more complaints about the umpires will doubtless be submitted to him).
    6. Clemens and his $1M/game.
    7. The Red Sox, winning a DH, they aren’t as good as the Yankees.
    8. The Mariners, winning a game they should, they aren’t as good as the Yankees.

    Everything but how their vaunted lineup couldn’t score any runs against the shaky Detroit bullpen, and how the Detroit lineup without Sheffield managed to match up with them, and win in the end.

  311. Karen on August 25th, 2007 10:28 am

    I was right about #8 above. About a half hour after the NYY/Detroit game ended, someone on the LoHud blog posted:

    August 25th, 2007 at 3:56 am
    [...]
    But I still say we pass Seattle eventually. They aren’t this good by far, and there’s no way they’ll play .750 baseball for the remaining 40 something games.

    They don’t have to. 21W out of the last 36 to be played is .583 ball, and that gets them to 94W…MAYBE enough for the WC.

    It’s the Yanks who have to play at a .676 rate from here on to = 94 wins, and a .706 rate to = 95 wins.

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