Game 127, Mariners at Rangers

DMZ · August 25, 2007 at 4:35 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Horacio Ramirez vs Jamey Wright. HOOOO BOY. 5:35 our time.

Interesting lineup:
CF-R Jones
DH-B Vidro
RF-R Guillen
LF-L Ibanez
3B-R Beltre
1B-R Sexson
C-R Johjima
2B-R Lopez
SS-R Bloomquist

On the other side, we get a AAA-worthy lineup, with Saltalamacchia at first.


332 Responses to “Game 127, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. thowe1 on August 25th, 2007 8:24 pm


  2. theraven on August 25th, 2007 8:24 pm

    I can’t believe they’re leaving Vidro on the bases.

  3. _David_ on August 25th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Pinch hit Ichiro right now. Seriously.

  4. Teej on August 25th, 2007 8:25 pm

    The only pinch runners we have are Jones and WFB, and they both started this game. Not much to choose from on the bench tonight.

  5. scott19 on August 25th, 2007 8:26 pm

    288/292: Gah, I’ve heard of “homers”, but those Anaheim chumpos must really take the cake if they’re THAT sore a losers!

    Can the YES network even possibly whine that much?

  6. ahhruff on August 25th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Beltre has had better nights….

  7. Teej on August 25th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Oh yeah, Yuni. My bad.

  8. frannyzoo on August 25th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Ichiro pinch-hit for Sexson?

  9. LA M's Fan on August 25th, 2007 8:27 pm

    If Beltre reaches (but doesn’t homer), you must pinch hit ichiro for sexson.

  10. pumpkinhead on August 25th, 2007 8:30 pm

    Big fucking surprise right there.


  11. IdahoInvader on August 25th, 2007 8:31 pm

    Yeah, like Mac would have the guts (or brains actually) to pinch hit Sexson for ANYONE.

    Was Ichiro really that “tired?” Sure could’ve used him tonight. Raul 1-15 vs Wilson really looked promising too…ugh

  12. scott19 on August 25th, 2007 8:31 pm

    Thanks a lot for the come-from-ahead loss, White!

    Can we DFA your ass now?! >:(

  13. Teej on August 25th, 2007 8:32 pm

    304: I recant my entire post. I was thinking too fast. And poorly.

  14. Rydogg2122 on August 25th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Reitsma, then Parrish, now White all in close games. Why do we put in our worse pitchers in critical situations. I mean the Angels are losing. Sorry, I am totally disgusted.

  15. IdahoInvader on August 25th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Seriously…did Mac do any actual “strategy” at any point?

    And no, putting in your worst reliever to mop up in a tie game, likely doesn’t count.

  16. beck21 on August 25th, 2007 8:35 pm

    So this loss obviously makes tomorrow’s game feel even bigger. Any guesses on if we see the standard lineup? Before the game I thought we would probably see Broussard/Burke tomorrow against a righty… Mac mentioned after Friday’s game he was resting Ichiro & Yuni today and that he’d probably rest a couple more on Sunday. Now I’m thinking he may think it important to get that “hot” line-up back in there. I’m really hoping for BB. Tough loss tonight, but hopefully they’ll bounce back tomorrow.

    I’m also still beating the “Start Jones” drum… But, I can’t see Mac doing that tomorrow.

  17. pinball1973 on August 25th, 2007 8:40 pm

    Is it OK to point out now that a one-eyed monkey with a pencil clamped in its teeth & scrabbling with a ouiji board would have mana…

    Wait a moment! I promised to avoid negativism (in comments here, anyway)! Ahem…

    Let’s talk about something cheering! Angels are comeing up son for real baseball, win or lose!

  18. msb on August 25th, 2007 8:55 pm

    postive thoughts??

    um, I’m positive they could have played this game better in so many ways!!

    oh, #186– Ichiro has a lovely asparagus & leek cream soup for his birthday treat.
    and maybe some vanilla ice cream with dark chocolate sauce.

    I wish I had some of that.

  19. scott19 on August 25th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Msb — thanks for the suggestive-sell on that cookbook.

    I definitely will pick that up the next time I’m at the Team Store! 🙂

  20. Notor on August 25th, 2007 9:15 pm

    Let’s be fair, White had nothing to do with that. They would’ve scored 0 runs if not for Beltre’s throwing errors and a bad call.

    I’m not saying Beltre is a bad player at all, it was just one of those anomalies that pop up at inopportune times. And I’m not saying White is a good pitcher either, but he didn’t pitch -that- poorly tonight.

    He should never have been put in the game at all, but he wasn’t the one who lost it for us.

  21. scott19 on August 25th, 2007 9:24 pm

    320: Guess I probably shouldn’t have vented that ruthlessly at White — and yeah, I know the breaks go that way sometimes. It just pisses me off that the boys chose to shoot themselves in the foot tonight rather than take advantage of a golden opportunity to gain ground on LAA.

  22. msb on August 25th, 2007 10:32 pm

    we can ‘what if’ that inning to death– what if Beltre doesn’t throw high, what if the ump sees that Sexson tagged the runner, what if HoRam doesn’t throw the first pitch right down the middle of the plate to the next batter …

    heck, what if the Mariners didn’t have 11 LOB…

  23. Rydogg2122 on August 25th, 2007 10:48 pm

    Bottom line is White should not have been in there with a 3-3 tie with a chance to go .pct points ahead of your division rival, plus the Yankees already won. That was not the time to “see what White can do.”

  24. VaughnStreet on August 25th, 2007 11:16 pm

    289 — I had almost forgotten Doug Creek. Now I have to do that all over again. Why why why…

  25. shortbus on August 25th, 2007 11:20 pm

    I can’t believe we’re putting the blame on the pitching and defense when we scored only THREE RUNS in Texas. A five run night in Texas in August is probably about average. The hitters didn’t do their job tonight.

    One of those that didn’t was AJ which sucks. He needs to play more frequently or he’s going to be the next guy that doesn’t get a fair shot in Seattle and is sent packing for nothing only to perform well elsewhere.

  26. Karen on August 26th, 2007 10:29 am

    Maybe the M’s expect all their farm-grown players to come out of the system at age 18-19 like Junior Griffey and ARodriguez, like gangbusters.

    It seems like anything less, they get the Edgar Martinez treatment or the Jason Varitek treatment.

    In other words, I think you’re right, shortbus.

  27. msb on August 26th, 2007 11:23 am


  28. AgedDavid on August 26th, 2007 11:30 am

    The Jones situation is frustrating. I hope there is a sizeable benefit to riding the pine in a major league dugout, as opposed to on-field experience at AAA. Because that is what Bavasi & Mac have done to him.

    It is hard to see a future for him here – what position does he play next year?

    Unless McLaren reinvents his approach to platoons & bench usage, a talented 4th outfielder ( or any talented reserve, for that matter) is wasted talent. Better to trade him for pitching than breed a frustrated, disgruntled rookie. Not saying Jones will react that way, but I sure would!

  29. frannyzoo on August 26th, 2007 11:39 am

    ’08 outfield

    LF Guillen
    CF Jones
    RF Ichiro!

    actually, those guys should be almost interchangeable

    DH/1B: Ibanez
    DH/Bench: Vidro
    Bench Talisman & Clubhouse Chemistry Mascot/1B: Sexson

    of course, Sexson for Joba Chamberlain would be my preference, but….

  30. rsrobinson on August 26th, 2007 11:44 am

    Beltre has had a great year defensively but his two throwing errors led directly or indirectly to all five runs. And the M’s had lots of opportunities to blow the game open against Wright (who couldn’t find his target with a map and compass) but constantly let him off the hook.

    HoRam has richly deserved the criticism he’s gotten for many of his starts but this game wasn’t one of them. He pitched well enough for the M’s to win if not for the offensive and defensive lapses.

  31. rsrobinson on August 26th, 2007 12:01 pm

    It is hard to see a future for him here – what position does he play next year?

    Everyone in the organization (including McLaren) knows that Ibanez’s days as an outfielder are coming to an end. He’ll probably have to be moved to 1B or DH next year, if he’s not traded. The question right now isn’t whether or not Jones would be a defensive upgrade in LF but whether it would be worth the risk of taking veteran bats out of the lineup during a late season pennant run in order to play an unproven rookie every day. USSM obviously has one opinion about that while the M’s organization has another.

    There’s no doubt that Jones will be given every opportunity to earn a starting outfield spot next year, probably in LF.

  32. John D. on August 26th, 2007 6:11 pm

    Re # 312 – “Come from ahead Losses.”

    Last night the broadcasters (in one of those rare instances when they weren’t talking about rally fries)mentioned how many come-from-behind wins the Mariners had.
    Does anyone happen to know how many come-from-ahead losses the Mariners have had?

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