Game 130, Angels at Mariners

DMZ · August 28, 2007 at 6:23 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Santana v Weaver. 7:05. Bloomquist at second to ignite a struggling offense.

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462 Responses to “Game 130, Angels at Mariners”

  1. Teej on August 28th, 2007 6:37 pm

    Willie is awesome at putting down tags on baserunners. We should win now!

    Go M’s!

  2. Glen on August 28th, 2007 6:38 pm

    Willie is going to bring the “Boom Boom” stick

  3. _David_ on August 28th, 2007 6:40 pm

    McLaren recognizes Lopez’s marginal defensive value over Bloomquist, and decides the best time to rest him is with flyball pitcher Weaver on the mound. He’s finally getting it!

  4. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 6:40 pm

    I’m already drinking the rally Fat Tires.

  5. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 6:49 pm

    Mac adjusted the lineup… wow.

  6. mr.smartypants on August 28th, 2007 7:01 pm

    3 – I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but if you aren’t, I think Mac is “resting” Lopez for other reasons. It’s nice that by blind luck it turned out to be a decent situation to do so, however.

  7. joser on August 28th, 2007 7:06 pm

    Yeah, I’ve been predicting a Lopez rest since the Texas series. Pretty much everybody else in the infield has had one recently. No rest for a weary corner outfielder, however.

  8. go_cougs on August 28th, 2007 7:08 pm

    I’ve started my Rally Brats and Rally Weinhard’s. Almost playoff baseball in Safeco Field I love it.

  9. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 7:12 pm

    Go M’s and Weaver! Never thought I would say that with such importance…

  10. WardP on August 28th, 2007 7:16 pm

    Meaningful baseball on August 28th.. in HD even! Gotta love it..

    Go Weaver! Go Ms!

  11. shemberry on August 28th, 2007 7:17 pm

    You have to love the HD

  12. joser on August 28th, 2007 7:18 pm

    Hmmm, where should I go watch the game? If it’s anything like last night, I don’t want to go anywhere. Nothing like feeling the hope drain out of an entire bar full of people to send you staggering out into the night like some angst-ridden emo teen who just had her ipod full of Joy Division run over by a bus.

  13. WardP on August 28th, 2007 7:18 pm

    “not a punitive move at all,” say Niehaus.. his toes must be sore from their time on the party line..

  14. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:18 pm

    Scrappy defense, Willie.

  15. Corey on August 28th, 2007 7:19 pm

    @#$%^*

  16. NBarnes on August 28th, 2007 7:19 pm

    Lopez woulda had it. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

  17. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:19 pm

    Gritty leap, there.

  18. argh on August 28th, 2007 7:19 pm

    Lopez lookin’ mo bettah by the swing.

  19. timc on August 28th, 2007 7:19 pm

    Can someone interpret the “Cabrera singles on a pop up to second baseman” for us Gameday-ers?

  20. theraven on August 28th, 2007 7:20 pm

    #19 Willie misplayed it and it fell in for a “hit.”

  21. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:20 pm

    19: Willie happened.

  22. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:21 pm

    Yeah.. I just saw that too on Gameday

    Did Willie miss something he should have gotten, or was it a legitimate bloop?

  23. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 7:21 pm

    12 Joy Division? I can’t imagine them still listening to that…the emo crowd isn’t about embracing old music, it’s about whatever is currently popular. At least, that’s my impression from rubbing shoulders with them at the Warped tour in recent years.

  24. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:22 pm

    oh ok… thx

  25. theraven on August 28th, 2007 7:22 pm

    Wow, Weaver is getting squeezed.

  26. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:22 pm

    22: He very much badly overran it backing up, and fell down trying to come back and get it.

  27. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 7:22 pm

    22- He miss read it, how you miss read a bloop is beyond me. They don’t slice.

  28. Glen on August 28th, 2007 7:23 pm

    strike er out, throw er out

  29. timc on August 28th, 2007 7:23 pm

    Thanks 20,21.

    Hey, good to know Garret Anderson still swings at everything.

  30. Leroy on August 28th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Willie should have had them both, no harm though. I am more amazed that I am sitting here in August watching Weaver with confidence in his ability.

  31. cgmonk on August 28th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Look at the play at third, Beltre just let the tag hang out there and the base runner simply slid into it. Same play as Lopez, different result.

  32. argh on August 28th, 2007 7:24 pm

    How is Willie’s miss not an error? Doesn’t Helen Keller get that ball?

  33. krb on August 28th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Beltre knows how to tag..

  34. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:24 pm

    That is Kenji for you…

  35. theraven on August 28th, 2007 7:24 pm

    Did anyone see that lead by Guerrero before Weaver threw the last pitch? He was halfway to 2nd before it left Weaver’s hand!

  36. Teej on August 28th, 2007 7:24 pm

    There are few things I love more than watching Scioscia Ball fail miserably.

  37. 23daysfordavis on August 28th, 2007 7:25 pm

    it should have been an error, 100% error…..how these scorers rule some routine plays is beyond me.

    ERROR

  38. rsrobinson on August 28th, 2007 7:26 pm

    Scorekeepers tend to award hits for even the most horribly misplayed flyballs as long as it isn’t touched before hitting the ground.

  39. freezer on August 28th, 2007 7:26 pm

    Hello offense!!!! Thanks for coming.

  40. krb on August 28th, 2007 7:26 pm

    Run Ichiro Run

  41. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:26 pm

    32: He made it look like a hard play by, you know, falling all over himself. He turned his back on a bloop single instead of just backing up, I guess thinking that “Bloomquist” looks like “Mays” if you squint hard enough.

  42. Glen on August 28th, 2007 7:26 pm

    lol “Split the Red Sea” lol

  43. timc on August 28th, 2007 7:27 pm

    I assume that was the Ichiro Power Swing.

  44. shemberry on August 28th, 2007 7:27 pm

    We have to score here!

  45. krb on August 28th, 2007 7:27 pm

    Seems to be a pretty good energized crowd.. finally.

  46. Glen on August 28th, 2007 7:28 pm

    I call for a Guillen Special

  47. ndrfx on August 28th, 2007 7:28 pm

    Let’s go chemistry.

  48. mark on August 28th, 2007 7:28 pm

    nothing to boost crowd noise like Ervin Santana on the road.

  49. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:29 pm

    Big inning… blow it open to make up for last night.

  50. freezer on August 28th, 2007 7:29 pm

    Did anybody read Bill Plaschke’s article from the LA Times today? I’d love to shove these next two games right in his face.

  51. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Woot!

  52. ndrfx on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    TURBO WITH THE WHEELS!!!

  53. krb on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Thats what we need!

  54. rsrobinson on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Turbo turns on the jets!

  55. Glen on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Woo hoo ANGRY Guillen!

  56. theraven on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Wow, Vidro scores from 1st?

  57. cgmonk on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Vidro scores from first, this is nice.

  58. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    YESS!! Finally some runs!

  59. _David_ on August 28th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Turbo scoring from first?? It’s some kind of an omen.

  60. thowe1 on August 28th, 2007 7:32 pm

    Man, loving those wheels by Vidro… I never thought that would have come out of my keyboard.

  61. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:33 pm

    50: yeah, that article was inane.

  62. theraven on August 28th, 2007 7:34 pm

    Triple, walk, Double (advance to 3rd on throw), walk… Anyone else seeing a trend?

  63. krb on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    62- I like this trend.

  64. shemberry on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Suck on it Plaschke

  65. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Yes!!! Beltre!!!

  66. rsrobinson on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    God, they’re just destroying Santana’s pitches!

  67. shemberry on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Suck on it Plaschke

  68. ndrfx on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Santana brought his A game.

  69. theraven on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Wow, now we need another walk.

  70. chimera on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    should have been 3 triples.

  71. freezer on August 28th, 2007 7:35 pm

    Anybody having fun yet? Hehehehehehe!!!!

  72. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:36 pm

    A SEAHAWKS SUPERBOWL??

    Hey buddy, Does LA even HAVE a football team?

    Wow… I want the Angels to lose more than ever now.

  73. argh on August 28th, 2007 7:36 pm

    Lunk Blast by Richie there.

  74. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 7:36 pm

    What’s the etiquette on running a game up when you were shut out the day before? Hee hee

  75. freezer on August 28th, 2007 7:36 pm

    Go figure: Sexson is the 1st out. AND he doen’t score the runner (although, I think Beltremendous should have scored).

  76. mark on August 28th, 2007 7:36 pm

    This is what happens with Willie Ballgame in the game, his hustle spreads to the whole team.

  77. theraven on August 28th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Leave it to Sexson to ruin a good thing. For the life of me I have no idea why McLaren doesn’t realize that putting Ibanez at 1st and Jones in LF would be better than Sexson coming to the plate 4 times a night.

  78. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Everyone hits except for Richie

  79. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Moseley warming up in the bullpen, for folks on gameday…

  80. timc on August 28th, 2007 7:37 pm

    It looks from Gameday like Santana’s being squeezed a bit as well (cf. 25′s comment regarding Weaver) and the result is lots of fat fastballs.

  81. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Of course LA has a football team. I went there for undergraduate.

  82. Swungonandbelted on August 28th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Wooooooooooooooooooo!

  83. rsrobinson on August 28th, 2007 7:37 pm

    Santana is tossing BP.

  84. Teej on August 28th, 2007 7:38 pm

    Seriously, Richard Karn was throwing better pitches than this.

  85. chimera on August 28th, 2007 7:38 pm

    1/3 of an inning. Woo hoo!

  86. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 7:38 pm

    Of course LA has a football team they are called the Trojans.

  87. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:38 pm

    Santana gone after 1/3. Hee.

  88. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:38 pm

    Thanks harry…

    Here is a situation for Jones.

    One or two more runs will end this game… and Jones could come in to give Ibanez or someone a night off once it gets out of hand.

  89. freezer on August 28th, 2007 7:38 pm

    1/3 inn. 5 runs (possibly 6). Weaver must have given him some kind of hex.

    P.S. Love the standing O!! Way to be, fans lucky enough to be at the game.

  90. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 7:39 pm

    72-Of course LA has a football team they are called the Trojans.

  91. argh on August 28th, 2007 7:39 pm

    Santana’s gonna have to pitch some serious whoopee in 2008 to repair the damage from this season, assuming he wants the big free agent bucks.

  92. ndrfx on August 28th, 2007 7:39 pm

    Well, it’s not like Moseley is any better. I see us getting 10+ runs this game.

  93. kenshabby on August 28th, 2007 7:39 pm

    What a turnaround from last year for Santana. I almost feel bad for him. He’s only 24, tho.

  94. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 7:39 pm

    Pretty good pitching there. He just made a couple mistakes…

  95. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:40 pm

    Hey Hey Hey… GOODBYE!!!

    Oh the horror… hahaha

  96. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:41 pm

    Hey guys… betta Richie feels great right now. He is the only guy Santana got out all night. ;0

  97. msb on August 28th, 2007 7:41 pm

    Bloomquist at second to ignite a struggling offense.

    so terrifying to an opposing manager, that he pulls his starting pitcher, so as not to damage his psyche forever….

  98. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 7:41 pm

    Aww. My compassion is kicking in. I feel bad for Santana, all sad on the bench. However,

    YAY M’s!

  99. ndrfx on August 28th, 2007 7:41 pm

    #94 – Take away a few walks and hits, those 5 runs, and he pitched a pretty good ballgame.

  100. krb on August 28th, 2007 7:42 pm

    Wear their bullpen out for tomorrow.

  101. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 7:42 pm

    Since we are up 5-0, can anyone link that article in the LA Times so i can get a good laugh?

  102. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:42 pm

    Oh.. I meant a SuperBowl quality team.. not one that choked to the Bruins..

    Sorry UofMich

  103. freezer on August 28th, 2007 7:43 pm

    Loren,

    Thanks for being the “token chick.”

    I know the rest of us are reveling in enjoyment. At least I am.

  104. Tak on August 28th, 2007 7:43 pm

    5 Runs, I still do not feel too safe with Weaver on the mound. (though post-DL Weaver has been decent)

  105. rrose on August 28th, 2007 7:43 pm

    Wait a minute… How can they score Guillen’s hit a double? Is it even possible for Vidro to go from 1st to home on anything less than a triple? I mean we’re talking Laws of Physics here. Aren’t we?

  106. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 7:43 pm

    Lol first inning, went through the linup, i bet safeco field is going crazy!

  107. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:44 pm

    Feel bad for the Angels????

    Did they feel bad for us last year, in last place??

    How about the year before, when they won the division and we were in last again?

    I can never feel badly for the Angels.

  108. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:44 pm
  109. freezer on August 28th, 2007 7:44 pm
  110. DanO on August 28th, 2007 7:45 pm

    Bill Plasche can be reached at bill.plasche@latimes.com. I think some (good natured, polite of course; do right by the M’s) correspondence regarding his apparent propensity to jump to inappropriate conclusions might be in order.

  111. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 7:45 pm

    99 isn’t manager pitching evaluation wonderful? He didn’t screw up, he just wasn’t perfectly sharp and the M’s hit every mistake he threw.

  112. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:46 pm

    Nice high fastball there. Gotta step on their throats, and not get complacent.

  113. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 7:47 pm

    I don’t feel bad for the ANGELS, but I always feel bad for pitchers when they completely blow it and have to slink back to the dugout.

    It’s true, this trait is very “token chick” of me. I’m ok with that.

  114. ndrfx on August 28th, 2007 7:47 pm

    Ballgame.

  115. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:47 pm

    .1 4 5 2 0 23 for Santana

  116. scottg02 on August 28th, 2007 7:48 pm

    So, right now, just for the rest of the season, who is the better starter?

    HoRam or Santana?

  117. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 7:48 pm

    I don’t feel bad for the ANGELS, but I always feel bad for pitchers when they completely blow it and have to slink back to the dugout.

    What if their name is Mesa or “he who shall not be named”? How can you feel any sympathy for those two?

  118. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 7:49 pm

    135 ERA, SWEET job Santana!

  119. eddieranch on August 28th, 2007 7:49 pm

    [Richie]

  120. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Mr. Plasche,

    I read your recent article regarding the Mariners in their first game of their three game series against the Angels. I found it quite alarming that a prestigious writer such as yourself would blatantly libel a baseball team that is actually quite good. Considering the events of just the first inning of tonight’s game, I feel that an apology is in order.

    Feel free to apologize for any premature conclusions you may have made about the Mariners and their team.

    Thank you.

    Sincerely,
    Ichiro

  121. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 7:50 pm

    I hope to God Weaver throws a complete game shut out. Then as a collective fanbase we can email Bill Plasche kindly linking tonight’s box score. Then we can remind him that it was indeed Jeff Weaver, a 2006 throw away pitcher, not John Lackey – 2007 Cy Young contender.

  122. rsrobinson on August 28th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Looks like the good Weaver has showed up tonight. Lots of movement and hitting the corners.

  123. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:50 pm

    119: a “not” missing in that sentence, perhaps?

  124. shemberry on August 28th, 2007 7:50 pm

    That is big. When you put up a big inning you have to hold them scoreless the next inning, from a momentum stand point. We want their dugout thinking, “well if we win tomorrow we still gained ground during this series”, not “hey we got 1 back, keep chipping away.”

  125. _David_ on August 28th, 2007 7:51 pm

    72 what’s this?

  126. eddieranch on August 28th, 2007 7:51 pm

    (119)meant NOT to have a good at bat, sorry

  127. msb on August 28th, 2007 7:52 pm

    Seriously, Richard Karn was throwing better pitches than this.

    hey, Rick was an athlete, man– wide receiver at Roosevelt :)

  128. _David_ on August 28th, 2007 7:52 pm

    Nevermind, read the article, fuck Bill Plashke.

  129. harry on August 28th, 2007 7:54 pm

    Damn, two caught looking… and they were good pitches.

  130. rsrobinson on August 28th, 2007 7:55 pm

    You gotta swing at two strike pitches over the plate, boys.

  131. Axtell on August 28th, 2007 7:55 pm

    [nope]

  132. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 7:56 pm

    Come on guys, don’t stop yet.

    Maybe I should go back to Pies and Pints. I missed the first inning.

  133. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 7:57 pm

    (Expletive) Bill Plaschke

  134. scottg02 on August 28th, 2007 7:57 pm

    If the M’s do pull off the AL West I’m gonna fly to Cali from Alaska, find Plaschke, and rub that piece of trash he called a story in his face.

  135. msb on August 28th, 2007 7:58 pm

    do lets actually win this game before making any big plans.

  136. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 7:59 pm

    Is today UPS day or something? 100th anniversary?

  137. Otto on August 28th, 2007 7:59 pm

    #4 me too then!!!!

  138. cgmonk on August 28th, 2007 8:00 pm

    Hey, cool. It’s radio on the tv!

  139. chimera on August 28th, 2007 8:00 pm

    Nice video feed.

  140. DanO on August 28th, 2007 8:00 pm

    135–Good point.

  141. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:01 pm

    Dammit. Let’s not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, here, guys.

  142. Replacement level poster on August 28th, 2007 8:01 pm

    My Mom always said if you don’t have anything to say other than “(Expletive) Bill Plaschke”, don’t say anything at all. Isn’t my Mom the greatest?

  143. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 8:02 pm

    135- Let’s win this series.

  144. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 8:02 pm

    Guillen is back at it…

  145. msb on August 28th, 2007 8:02 pm

    aaaaaaand they try to give runs back to the Angels …

  146. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 8:03 pm

    Now… it is a 4 run game with a runner on 2nd.

    If that run scores, then all of a sudden it is a game again.

  147. msb on August 28th, 2007 8:03 pm

    Blowers wonders if Beltre hurt his thumb on the throw-in from Guillen …

  148. mark on August 28th, 2007 8:03 pm

    I always expect reggie willits’ at bats to last 10 pitches, god is he annoying.

  149. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:03 pm

    I thought we were going to have a Bartman there for a second.

  150. Replacement level poster on August 28th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Well he’s definitely acting like it bothers him.

  151. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:04 pm

    *Whew* I can breathe again. I thought that ball was gone on the foul.

  152. hititagainandagainandagain on August 28th, 2007 8:04 pm

    I thought Raul Ibanez’ best defensive skill was backing up third base.

  153. rsrobinson on August 28th, 2007 8:05 pm

    There were two mistakes on that play. Weaver threw an 0-2 pitch over the plate and Guillen had no business gunning it to third. He had no shot at him.

  154. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:06 pm

    Damn, why is MLB.TV blacked out in Salem Oregon?

  155. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 8:06 pm

    I can’t resist sending an email already. I pointed out that Santana’s pitching was like the Raiders in the superbowl.

    He didn’t even show up.

  156. Replacement level poster on August 28th, 2007 8:06 pm

    That’s only no man’s land if Raul is playing right.

  157. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 8:07 pm

    Beautiful work Weaver.

  158. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:07 pm

    I want them to out-do the Rangers tonight. Last night got me so very angry.

  159. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 8:07 pm

    I already sent the email I wrote in 120

  160. Replacement level poster on August 28th, 2007 8:07 pm

    Its blacked out in Salem Oregon due to FSN being available there and them having the rights to this game.

  161. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 8:07 pm

    Ok lets get a few hits here, give weav a lil bit longer break.

  162. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:09 pm

    160, It worked fine for me in Portland. Sigh.

  163. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Hmm if were not goin to get a hit, lets at least try to get his pitch count up so that we can wreck thier pen for tomorrows game.

  164. msb on August 28th, 2007 8:11 pm

    could we please get a run off of a pitcher not named Erwin?

    or as Geoff Baker just christened him, Ervin “Road Kill” Santana?

  165. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:11 pm

    Why do I have to breathe a sigh of relief when Beltre *doesn’t* swing at the low outside pitch in the dirt? Why can’t I just expect that he won’t?

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  167. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 8:12 pm

    165- It is the Happy Feet dance he does every time he sees one that he can’t wait to swing and miss at.

  168. _David_ on August 28th, 2007 8:12 pm

    Hudler: “The always dangerous Richie Sexson”

    Yeah, I guess that’s right, as jogging in a thunderstorm is always dangerous.

  169. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:12 pm

    Richie continues to impress.

  170. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 8:13 pm

    BOOO his ass right out of the lineup!

  171. juneau_fan on August 28th, 2007 8:13 pm

    Ah, it’s the running tree from Lord of the Rings!

    And the gentle pitter-patter of boos.

  172. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:14 pm

    Big Richie has all of 20% more RBI than our #9 hitter, don’t be so hard on him.

  173. Ichy on August 28th, 2007 8:15 pm

    That a boy Richie… way to come through

  174. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:15 pm

    Is there such a thing as an “intentional strikeout”? It might be a good idea for Richie when someone’s on first…

  175. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 8:16 pm

    #172

    The #9 hitter hasn’t been hovering near the Mendoza Line for most of the season.

  176. JMB on August 28th, 2007 8:16 pm

    I’m in crappy cheap hotel (in Atlanta), with internet… but internet not quite fast enough to handle MLB.tv. Oh well.

  177. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 8:17 pm

    That’s right Yuni. You show Raul he has no place in the field. Bad Raul, bad.

  178. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 8:18 pm

    Thats right Raul, hang your head in shame as the SS calls you off a fly ball in LF.

  179. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:19 pm

    175: yeah, I was sort of being sarcastic.

    Weaver seems to be doing OK, even though the strikezone is changing shape unpredictably.

  180. argh on August 28th, 2007 8:20 pm

    Weaver=Spicoli!

  181. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 8:21 pm

    !@#%ing Matthews.

  182. Slippery Elmer on August 28th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Matthews needs to go away for a long time.

  183. juneau_fan on August 28th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Weaver’s only 31? Jeez, talk about being ridden hard and put away wet. I thought weed was supposed to keep a guy youthful, as it, a slacker teenager.

    Okay…uh, that wasn’t very nice, Mr. Matthews.

  184. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Crap.

  185. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:22 pm

    This game was a lot more fun a few minutes ago.

  186. JMB on August 28th, 2007 8:23 pm

    Even the usher is walking down to tell the guy to throw it back.

  187. Teej on August 28th, 2007 8:24 pm

    Gary Matthews has just demolished us this year, but he’s still less annoying than about six other guys in that lineup.

  188. Tak on August 28th, 2007 8:24 pm

    This is exactly why people should not get ahead of theirselves just because they scored 5 runs in the first inning. All those cocky remarks are gonna look pretty damn embarassing if the Ms end up losing this one.

    On the bright side, the Ms win expectancy is still over 75%, though they are completely hitless so far against Moseley.

  189. Slippery Elmer on August 28th, 2007 8:24 pm

    As Weaver gave up 2 HR just after I turned on my radio, I claim responsibility for the negative turn of events. I will now turn off the radio. Takin’ one for the team, I am.

  190. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Can we please just put these guys away get just a few runs in this inning. Heck I’d settle for one.

  191. DanO on August 28th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Ya know, those of us who’ve already written Plasche are going to be deeply humiliated if the Angels come back and win this thing…

  192. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:27 pm

    Hey Joh, you have to jump up and down if a catcher is going to body english a ball to stay fair. Someone send him a tape of Fisk.

  193. juustabitoutside on August 28th, 2007 8:29 pm

    #191-especially if you can’t even spell his name.

  194. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:29 pm

    So, when do we get to see Broussard in the game. Richie has the only out against the very hittable Santana, and a GIDP. Typical, in other words.

    What the hell was that? Why a hit and run with Grit at-bat?

  195. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:30 pm

    Swinging pitchout? I’ve never even seen that on gameday before

  196. timc on August 28th, 2007 8:31 pm

    194 – does the ensuing groundball out answer your question?

  197. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:32 pm

    That inning took a turn for the worse really quickly there.

  198. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 8:32 pm

    #195

    It was a hit and run. Willie had to try and put the bat on the ball to save Johjima.

  199. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 8:32 pm

    I bet Angel fans are wishing they woulda just started Moseley…

  200. Teej on August 28th, 2007 8:33 pm

    It appears that Moseley’s going to throw an 8 2/3-inning shutout, and Ervin Santana will be even more ashamed.

  201. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 8:33 pm

    this guy is pitching pretty well, im suprised he’s not a starter.

  202. Dan W on August 28th, 2007 8:34 pm

    As painful as this is to watch for most of you, if you aren’t listening to Physioc/Hudler, you still have a lot to be thankful for.

  203. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 8:34 pm

    #201

    Apparently the Angels have HoRam syndrome when it comes to Santana.

  204. JMB on August 28th, 2007 8:35 pm

    Hmm.

  205. chimera on August 28th, 2007 8:35 pm

    M’s never seem to do well against pitchers they haven’t seen or weren’t expecting.

  206. Swungonandbelted on August 28th, 2007 8:35 pm

    No bad Weaver tonight… get it together spicoli

  207. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 8:35 pm

    I hope McLaren has Weaver on a short leash right now, the Angels are starting to see through the smoke and mirrors.

  208. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 8:35 pm

    I wish our number 9 was 2 for 2 or even our number 8

  209. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:35 pm

    198, You have to wonder if the angels weren’t stealing signs there

  210. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 8:37 pm

    208- I bet the Angels wish they were up 5-3.

  211. Teej on August 28th, 2007 8:37 pm

    Nice red bat, Reggie. I didn’t think you could get any more obnoxious.

  212. krb on August 28th, 2007 8:37 pm

    If the run scores, I want Weaver out.

  213. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:38 pm

    210- I wish the M’s were up 5-3 still.

  214. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:38 pm

    The shiny has worn off the game already. We gotta score some more runs.

  215. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:38 pm

    TAKE HIM OUT!

  216. Otto on August 28th, 2007 8:39 pm

    Time to pull Weaver

  217. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 8:39 pm

    Can we just put the batting practice pitching machine on the mound every 5 days?

  218. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 8:39 pm

    Please tell me someone is warming up in the bullpen.

  219. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:40 pm

    WE goes back to 50%….

  220. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:40 pm

    O’Flaherty is coming in.

  221. chimera on August 28th, 2007 8:41 pm

    I don’t know how many times over the years I’ve seen the M’s score a bunch of runs, knock the pitcher out, then post a big fat 0 against long relief after.

  222. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:42 pm

    Thank god. Weaver was obviously going to keep hemorrhaging runs until it was too late.

  223. Orothar on August 28th, 2007 8:42 pm

    Can someone, anyone, find a reporter who is willing to shout at Mac during a press conferance and ask him – sternly and with the clear intent that they think he’s dumb – why he continues to play the worst-hitting everyday 1st baseman in baseball while a perfectly good, starter quality, power-hitting first baseman rides the bench?

    Or better yet – ask him if he blindly believes that the status of “veteran” means players no longer have to earn their position and can “coast” and “play crappy” (those quotes must be demonstrated with hand motions) and still keep their position…

    ARGH!

  224. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:44 pm

    Jeez.

  225. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:44 pm

    I wonder if the rationale of keeping Weaver in was largely to get him 5 so he could get the W. If so… it didn’t exactly work.

  226. Swungonandbelted on August 28th, 2007 8:44 pm

    For anybody watching, did the M’s get hosed on that call?

  227. krb on August 28th, 2007 8:45 pm

    He was out! These goddamn umps.

  228. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:45 pm

    226 – It looked like it.

  229. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:46 pm

    Yeah, the M’s got hosed. Vlad was out at third.

  230. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:46 pm

    We bailed the ump out.

  231. mark on August 28th, 2007 8:46 pm

    god dammit i thought i was going ot have a worry free night.

  232. chimera on August 28th, 2007 8:46 pm

    Take away the first 1/3 inning of the ball game, and we’re behind 5 to nothing.

  233. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:46 pm

    Bullpen vs. bullpen. Statistically, I think the M’s should win this one…

    Right?

  234. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 8:46 pm

    This has got to be the best umpiring crew we have seen all year or at least everyone in Anaheim thinks so.

  235. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 8:47 pm

    Well, time for me to go get rally beer. Or “god damn it, why did they lose” beer.

  236. HamNasty on August 28th, 2007 8:47 pm

    Thanks for freezing during the argument and replays there MLB.tv!! (Expletive) MLB.tv!

  237. _David_ on August 28th, 2007 8:47 pm

    I think he was safe, delays by Ichiro and then Sexson kind of doomed the play.

  238. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:48 pm

    234, don’t you mean “Los Angeles of Anaheim”?

  239. The Unknown Comic on August 28th, 2007 8:48 pm

    #217

    We do and his name is Horacio Ramirez.

  240. benihana on August 28th, 2007 8:48 pm

    welp, time to hit (not hit and run)

  241. harry on August 28th, 2007 8:50 pm

    Man, it’s like last night’s M’s showed up, after the first inning.

  242. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:50 pm

    Hey FSN, I know you’re trying to be artistic, but I’d like to watch the game instead of your clever angles.

  243. Spanky on August 28th, 2007 8:50 pm

    I hate to say it…but I think the M’s have lost this game now. I know it’s still early and still tied…but COME ON!!! The Angels spot you 5 in the first and you let them come back little by little to tie it up! Being shut down since the 5 spot? They showed their inexperience by letting up and thinking they had the game won.

    That’s just wrong!

  244. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 8:50 pm

    That announcement sounded like they were saying “Jose Lima.”

    Hell, maybe we could use him.

  245. Beniitec on August 28th, 2007 8:51 pm

    I have a question for you guys. I’m a little weirded out… I’m watching the game…and my daughter needs to be changed. So I’m changing her… and my phone rings. Obviously I can’t get to my house phone. I check the caller ID, and I got a call from… Bell, David. Wha? Ok, I’m weirded out. I don’t know any Bells. Um… The only Mariner I have ever met in person is David Bell…but he wouldn’t know my number. Ok, seriously guys… what the world?

  246. bmanuw on August 28th, 2007 8:51 pm

    You guys know Mariners aint scoring anymore runs right?

    This team has no heart Id say final Score Angels 10-5

  247. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 8:51 pm

    The offense has gone stagnant again. Fantastic.

  248. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 8:52 pm

    Also: the future we’re building to is apparently “Super Mario 17: Jamaica!”

  249. JMB on August 28th, 2007 8:52 pm

    I wish Jones played enough that he could be the subject of the Banner Bank Building to the Future.

  250. bmanuw on August 28th, 2007 8:52 pm

    LET THE SEASON ENDING MELTDOWN BEGIN

  251. JMB on August 28th, 2007 8:53 pm

    OK, Lauren, you rock… I was trying to come up with a line related to the music, but couldn’t.

  252. Dayve on August 28th, 2007 8:53 pm

    Now we see what they’re made of. Let’s see how the M’s respond.

  253. Beniitec on August 28th, 2007 8:53 pm

    #243… I’m with you. Why do you let it get past 5-3? Wow…I’m blown away… and weirded out.

  254. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 8:54 pm

    I hereby turn all my one-liner power towards making the Mariners score at least one more run.

  255. JMB on August 28th, 2007 8:54 pm

    Also, you guys, no more letters to columnists for other papers while the game is still going. K?

  256. msb on August 28th, 2007 8:55 pm

    and tonights Banner Bank Molding on the Bench player is ….

  257. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 8:55 pm

    #250

    Shut up.

    #252

    I’m going to remain hopeful so long as the bullpen keeps the game where its at. I think the offense can at least put a run or two more across the plate.

  258. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:56 pm

    thank the lord; we got someone out

  259. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 8:56 pm

    Well here’s a silver lining – think how much more this would hurt if this were happening during the playoffs.

    Hmmmm, not much of a silver lining.

  260. msb on August 28th, 2007 8:56 pm

    #255. thank you.

    gloating is bad, and pride goeth before a fall, and look before you leap, and all that good stuff.

    Just look at one of my favorite Steve Kelley columns, the one where he crowned the Yankees division champs, and Alex the MVP the day before the big Sox comeback, and Alex’ post-season collapse….

  261. bmanuw on August 28th, 2007 8:56 pm

    257 Wow what a intelligent response “shut up” You in 2nd grade??

  262. krb on August 28th, 2007 8:57 pm

    Awesome play if Richie could have helped a bit.

  263. benihana on August 28th, 2007 8:57 pm

    bmanuw, i hereby declare that you are not allowed to enjoy any of the possible future successes of this team for the rest of the season after a comment like that

  264. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 8:57 pm

    wow big wave of negative karma. Score is still tied. The trick is to bounce back, not slump down in defeat. This is exactly the kind of attitude Bill Plaschke was mocking in his article.We can sing our woes after the game is lost. Not while we are in a middle of a do or die game.

  265. jack_per_conte on August 28th, 2007 8:58 pm

    Sexson needs to just be taken out back, given an ice cream cone, a nice long hug, and then put to rest, with a spoon.

  266. JMB on August 28th, 2007 8:58 pm

    Wait a minute — I thought Sexson was the best in the league at digging that ball out of the dirt?

    Sorry, wrong thread.

  267. chimera on August 28th, 2007 8:58 pm

    The start to this season was expected, then we over achieved, and now we are reverting back. This team just isn’t good enough to do anything in the playoffs (should we ever get there). The management is to blame (at all levels).

  268. maalox on August 28th, 2007 8:59 pm

    I don’t care if we go through our entire bullpen. We have to win this one.

  269. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 9:00 pm

    #261

    I’ll refrain from feeding the trolls today.

    Good news is that Sean Green is coming in, and not Rick White. Hopefully Johnny Mac has learned his lesson.

    Good effort by Willie.

  270. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 9:01 pm

    #267

    Dave would beg to differ. He seems to think this is a team that could do well in the playoffs, should they make it that far.

  271. maalox on August 28th, 2007 9:01 pm

    The score is tied, people. We haven’t lost yet… so stop with your Debbie Downer comments.

  272. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:01 pm

    If Sexson scoops that ball, we might have never seen Lopez play again, so it’s just as well.

  273. 23daysfordavis on August 28th, 2007 9:01 pm

    Scioscia knows our signs. Every year he sniffs out a steal and pitches out.
    He never guesses wron on a pitchout…….he has a snitch somewhere!

    I just wathced departed….lots of snitches in that movie.

  274. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Woo!

  275. Beniitec on August 28th, 2007 9:02 pm

    wow… Willie with the TAG!

  276. msb on August 28th, 2007 9:02 pm

    you know, I was watching Slings & arrows before I’d realized the game had started, and that 5 runs were being scored when my back was turned.

    maybe I should just go back and see how putting on the Scottish Play is progressing … there is only a little curse involved there :)

  277. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Well that makes up for our rather ugly hit and run a few innings ago.

  278. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Has there been any word on Bavasi and Lincoln-Whether or not Bavasi remains on the hot seat?

  279. Dayve on August 28th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Nice strikeout. Would be nicer to put them away without a baserunner this inning.

  280. chimera on August 28th, 2007 9:03 pm

    #270: Dave’s a smart guy, so I hope so. That’s just my opinion.

  281. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Big play there, let’s carry it over to our side of the inning.

  282. Teej on August 28th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Scioscia Ball! It works!*

    * When you have great pitching and defense and everything else that wins ballgames.

  283. JMB on August 28th, 2007 9:03 pm

    Yeah, that was ugly for them.

  284. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 9:04 pm

    I wonder if richie is going to try and win this one for us in the 9th inning, but i really dont want to chance waiting that long till we score any runs. :(

  285. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:04 pm

    How can a catcher double clutch and still throw a runner out by that wide of a margin?

  286. Dayve on August 28th, 2007 9:04 pm

    Fack. Broussard, loosen up!

  287. frannyzoo on August 28th, 2007 9:04 pm

    #271: Debbie Downer…good memories ‘bro back when Quaaludes were around.

    I’ve been gone the whole game, but I see I’ve missed nothing. Sort of.

  288. Spanky on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    One hit since the first…ONE!!! Someone needs to step up and get this thing turned around!

  289. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Okay Raul, if you don’t get on this AB, I’m subtracting a U.

  290. firova2 on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Check out the box score on Gameday. Everyone in the Mariner lineup is at .282 or above. Except for Richie at .209. Ben Broussard? .289, of course. Just noticing.

  291. JMB on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    I miss Jay Buhner.

  292. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Good Raul. You get to keep your U.

  293. benihana on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    now let’s just not run ourselves out of an inning

  294. krb on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Lets get it started.

  295. harry on August 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    OK, leadoff man aboard. Let’s score some runs. Come on, guys.

  296. JMB on August 28th, 2007 9:06 pm

    And the U lives. Good threat Brian.

  297. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 9:06 pm

    Ok, I’m back with more rally Fat Tire ($11.90 a 12 pack, not bad at all). It needs to work.

  298. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 9:06 pm

    Beltre make us proud.

  299. krb on August 28th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Put the ball girl at 1st.

  300. maalox on August 28th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Weird how many pickoff attempts are happening on our slowest baserunners. If I were McLaren I’d be changing the signs…

  301. mr.smartypants on August 28th, 2007 9:07 pm

    how about a sexson bunt next. Only half kidding, sadly

  302. benihana on August 28th, 2007 9:07 pm

    this dude is due to get tagged

  303. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Wow. That was an interesting pitch.

  304. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Check that man for steroids!

  305. harry on August 28th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Got lucky there, that was sort of a wimpy slide by Raul.

  306. benihana on August 28th, 2007 9:08 pm

    at least they didn’t bother trying to turn 2

  307. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Ok Richie, redemption time.

  308. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 9:09 pm

    msb: Wow. What if it turned out that we weren’t supposed to be saying the word “Mariners” at all?

  309. krb on August 28th, 2007 9:09 pm

    I wish Broussard could have hit for Sexson.

  310. benihana on August 28th, 2007 9:09 pm

    wimpy? ty cobb would have been jealous of that slide haha

  311. mrmitra on August 28th, 2007 9:09 pm

    Richie could you at least pretend you dont suck?

  312. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Shoot. I should have threatened Richie before he grounded out.

  313. maalox on August 28th, 2007 9:10 pm

    297, Oh, it will definitely work. But it depends on what you mean by “work”.

  314. benihana on August 28th, 2007 9:11 pm

    sexson is a superhero. he can undermine and defeat any semblance of a rally

  315. UofMichgoMs on August 28th, 2007 9:12 pm

    If I was still able to go to games I can guaran-dang-tee that I would take a sign with me every game that says in letters big…black…and bold…”EUTHANIZE RICHIE!”

  316. krb on August 28th, 2007 9:13 pm

    This is annoying.

  317. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:14 pm

    Come to think of it, I was eating rally fries during that first.

    Maybe this show will be rally Brock Butler.

  318. JMB on August 28th, 2007 9:14 pm

    Ugh.

  319. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:14 pm

    (This show == the music I just put in)

  320. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 9:14 pm

    Im starting to reallly dislike richie more and more, i hope he was booed

  321. frannyzoo on August 28th, 2007 9:15 pm

    Well, this team is really all about the bullpen, and tonight we find out if that is enough.

  322. Bach on August 28th, 2007 9:16 pm

    Where is Ben?!, come on now I think this game proved everything wrong with Richie. Even if he does get hot, he will never hit well in the pressure of the post season.

  323. jack_per_conte on August 28th, 2007 9:16 pm

    Sexson looks like a man who has been spending the last 40 years selling life insurance, is looking forward to retirement, and then finds out that he’s going to have to raise his rebel daughter’s four illegitimate kids and that he’ll have to take on a second job. More or less, he not only looks utterly and profoundly defeated, but he looks as if he’s made his peace with himself and is resigned to that defeat.

  324. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:18 pm

    Once again FSN, could you please chose camera shots that let us, you know, see the actual pitch thrown?

  325. jack_per_conte on August 28th, 2007 9:19 pm

    I hope the Angels bunt us into the bottom of the 7th.

  326. Grayfox on August 28th, 2007 9:20 pm

    manufacturing runs.

  327. maalox on August 28th, 2007 9:20 pm

    if you throw anything in the strike zone, sean, i am going to kill you

  328. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:20 pm

    I hope that guy down the third base line is trying to hex the batter, as opposed to doing that to get on tv.

  329. jack_per_conte on August 28th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Perfect pitch to that slap happy freak.

  330. maalox on August 28th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Yay! I don’t have to kill sean green!

  331. Jonathan on August 28th, 2007 9:22 pm

    farg.

  332. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:22 pm

    #(R#)*)*#$_)#$_#$*_*_

  333. JMB on August 28th, 2007 9:22 pm

    Walk him.

  334. harry on August 28th, 2007 9:22 pm

    Why? Why pitch to Vlad like that?

  335. JMB on August 28th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Grr.

  336. Dan W on August 28th, 2007 9:27 pm

    That mistake was not acceptable. First base open? Walk him. Bring in Sherrill to pitch to Anderson. Not acceptable.

  337. The Unknown Comic on August 28th, 2007 9:27 pm

    Well if the M’s are gonna lose I hope they can at least do me the courtesy of keeping the game close enough for F. Rod to earn me a fantasy save.

  338. WardP on August 28th, 2007 9:28 pm

    How can the fans be doing the freaking wave in the middle of this? The wave should be banned in games with playoff implications.

    (it should be banned in all cases, but I fear it will never happen)

  339. krb on August 28th, 2007 9:30 pm

    haha Beltre making sure Kenji doesnt fall back?

  340. Dayve on August 28th, 2007 9:30 pm

    Angel’s are thinking this game out. M’s are reacting. And poorly.

  341. The Unknown Comic on August 28th, 2007 9:31 pm

    Hopefully Richie is able to keep things in perspective and realize that at the end of the day he got 44 million from these SUCKAS.

  342. jack_per_conte on August 28th, 2007 9:32 pm

    Beltre and Johjima looked nice and natural there, it almost looked like that famous Janet Jackson Rolling Stone cover.

  343. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:32 pm

    Why let Scrappy hit here?

  344. harry on August 28th, 2007 9:33 pm

    Willie at bat, and Ben sits.

  345. jack_per_conte on August 28th, 2007 9:33 pm

    It’s not like we have a good fielding 2nd baseman on the bench . .

  346. Mat on August 28th, 2007 9:34 pm

    How can the fans be doing the freaking wave in the middle of this?

    I love that Sims called out the fans for doing the wave in that situation.

  347. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:34 pm

    How could you even think that was ball 4?

  348. Jonathan on August 28th, 2007 9:35 pm

    YUNI!!

  349. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:35 pm

    Ok, here we go!

  350. Mat on August 28th, 2007 9:36 pm

    Like they say, a one-out double is as good as a single and sacrifice bunt.

  351. Brian-No-Relation-To-Matt-Thornton on August 28th, 2007 9:38 pm

    Up 5-0 to a team whose starter couldn’t get more than ONE out in the first, and these guys allow six unanswered runs from the halos? This is where season go to die. If they lose this, playoffs as a wild-card or no, the rest of the year is anti-climactic. The Angels last night just kept pouring it on, and put the Ms away early. The Ms have the same opportunity this evening, and they can’t hold a lead? And Sexson is 0-for-what? His last TEN at-bats?

    FUCK.

  352. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:38 pm

    I-CHI-RO!!!!!

  353. harry on August 28th, 2007 9:38 pm

    Ichiro!

  354. Jonathan on August 28th, 2007 9:39 pm

    Oh, Ichiro!.

  355. bram on August 28th, 2007 9:39 pm

    Ichiro, at least, looks mentally focused in this series.

  356. harry on August 28th, 2007 9:41 pm

    It’s clear Sexson has incriminating photos of someone in the FO. That’s the only explanation that makes sense.

  357. Jonathan on August 28th, 2007 9:41 pm

    15% Mathis has caught 2 M’s stealing tonight?!?!

  358. enazario on August 28th, 2007 9:43 pm

    How is Ichiro nailed by that much? Must’ve been a horrible jump.

  359. BrianL on August 28th, 2007 9:46 pm

    #356

    My uncle used to say that was the only reason Bobby Ayala had a spot in the bullpen…

  360. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:47 pm

    357-8 – Maybe we watered down the basepaths and forgot to tell our team about it.

  361. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 9:49 pm

    So, at what point does it become umpire season?

  362. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 9:49 pm

    Did he miss the tag because that sure looked like an out?

    DAMN.

  363. Jonathan on August 28th, 2007 9:50 pm

    I’m listening on the radio. Was Ibanez close to catching it?

  364. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 9:50 pm

    Q: What word comes from the Anglo-Saxon scitten, originally used as a medical term denoting diarrhea?

    A: SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT!

  365. enazario on August 28th, 2007 9:50 pm

    Boy we are sure getting screwed by the men in blue

  366. The Unknown Comic on August 28th, 2007 9:57 pm

    Isn’t it ironic, don’t ya think?

    ITS LIKE WATCHING RAUL IBANEZ MISSING A BALL THAT ADAM JONES WOULD HAVE GOT TO.

  367. enazario on August 28th, 2007 9:58 pm

    It’s hold on to your pants time.

  368. The Unknown Comic on August 28th, 2007 10:03 pm

    Rick White used to be in ZZ Top.

  369. zzyzx on August 28th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Well it was fun still being in the race in late August.

    Sucks that the umpires played a large role, but I don’t think it would have mattered that much anyway…

  370. JMHawkins on August 28th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Stupidity, backed up by incompetence, and rounded out with ineptitude.

    Stupid roster construction, incompetent player usage, and inept offense.

  371. davepaisley on August 28th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Wow, there’s that veteranosity we love so much.

  372. JMHawkins on August 28th, 2007 10:09 pm

    Rick White used to be in ZZ Top.

    Not true. He’s too old. But I do believe he played third viola in one Beethoven’s symphonies.

  373. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 10:10 pm

    I am clinging to hope like a particularly sticky wall walker.

  374. Lauren, token chick on August 28th, 2007 10:12 pm

    God. Please at least tell me that Sexson’s numbers justify this somehow. I can’t imagine how.

  375. enazario on August 28th, 2007 10:12 pm

    Good thing their closer sucks.

  376. bram on August 28th, 2007 10:14 pm

    This M’s team has a decent set of skills, but they do not appear ready to turn that into any significant achievement yet. If they really expected to win this division, they would be performing at or near the top of their abilities in this series. They clearly aren’t.

    I’m not talking about “chemistry” or any other nonsense, I’m talking about mental preparedness. The Angels have shown it in this series, the M’s haven’t. I just hope it’s fatigue related and not indicative of a more serious problem.

    Then again, the tactical failures of on-field management are well-documented, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised should it extend to failure to mentally prepare the team to perform well when the stakes are high.

  377. JG on August 28th, 2007 10:14 pm

    “‘Rick White used to be in ZZ Top.’

    Not true. He’s too old. But I do believe he played third viola in one Beethoven’s symphonies.”

    Actually, he accompanied Nero on the lyre.

    White, pitching while Seattle burns.

  378. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 10:16 pm

    I am clinging to hope like a particularly sticky wall walker.

    I believe the proper metaphor would be a disgusting, unsanitary, fly strip.

    Seriously, this whole game has been disgusting after the second out.

  379. lailaihei on August 28th, 2007 10:19 pm

    M’s are a rudderless ship. Manager can’t make a decision that helps the team. BTW, why was Richie batting when Broussard hit a salami against Speier?

  380. PositivePaul on August 28th, 2007 10:20 pm

    Well, uh.

    Mac — you could’ve brought GS52 in, like, say 6-7 BATTERS AGO!!!

  381. Dan W on August 28th, 2007 10:20 pm

    This is the worst baseball game I have ever seen. Let’s see how lighthearted the guys are in the clubhouse tonight.

  382. enazario on August 28th, 2007 10:20 pm

    Stoli, splash of vermouth, two olives, UP here I come.

  383. manholecover on August 28th, 2007 10:20 pm

    i like the thread title…”bloomquist starts to ignite M’s offense.” i wish bloomquist would ignite himself on fire and take sexson with him. the only thing worse than this game is listening to M’s fans cheer for a team that gave up a five run lead.

  384. Sports on a Schtick on August 28th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Can we officially hate McLaren now?

  385. Oly Rainiers Fan on August 28th, 2007 10:21 pm

    That lolla-blue-za thing not working out so much, I’m thinking.

  386. mr.smartypants on August 28th, 2007 10:21 pm

    379 – If you haven’t by now realized that it’s pointless to ask why Richie is batting in any situation at all, then you’re in for a depressing rest of the season

  387. Faceplant on August 28th, 2007 10:21 pm

    “I’m not talking about “chemistry” or any other nonsense, I’m talking about mental preparedness. The Angels have shown it in this series, the M’s haven’t.”

    How do you mentally prepare for Gerry Meals?

  388. WardP on August 28th, 2007 10:21 pm

    377: The DayGlo goatee did not strike fear into the hearts of the opposition..

  389. krb on August 28th, 2007 10:22 pm

    NOW Broussard is in.

  390. nickpdx on August 28th, 2007 10:22 pm

    Biggest at-bat in the biggest inning in the biggest game of the last 3 years and we get who on the mound? JJ? Wait…

    Kill me now.

  391. sankthetank on August 28th, 2007 10:22 pm

    384: NO — the official “I Hate McLaren Club” was filled two weeks ago.

  392. nickpdx on August 28th, 2007 10:24 pm

    They’re taking new membership applications by mail, phone, or screaming out your window.

  393. bram on August 28th, 2007 10:24 pm

    I would submit that you don’t substitute ripping up Gerry Meals for whatever mental preparation you ought to have done. If that was the intent, it hasn’t worked.

  394. enazario on August 28th, 2007 10:25 pm

    Is that one going to sit, Dave?

  395. JMHawkins on August 28th, 2007 10:25 pm

    McClaren probably thinks Broussard needs to find a way to get more ABs if he wants more playing time.

  396. milendriel on August 28th, 2007 10:26 pm

    I was more appalled when I saw McLaren giving the ball to Rick White than I would have been if he’d come out of the dugout and raised both middle fingers to every fan in the stadium. That was utterly indefensible.

  397. JI on August 28th, 2007 10:27 pm

    Worst game ever.

  398. krb on August 28th, 2007 10:27 pm

    Someone needs to buy McLaren a Managing For Dummies book.

  399. WardP on August 28th, 2007 10:28 pm

    This is what the death of hope feels like..

  400. pinball1973 on August 28th, 2007 10:28 pm

    Dear nickpdx,

    Cracks like that are half of why I love this blog! Tanks for the humor – the gallows is only a strike away.

  401. manholecover on August 28th, 2007 10:28 pm

    if felix loses tomorrow, the m’s officially have no shot…and no guts. getting swept at home is inexcusable. i feel sick.

  402. DMZ on August 28th, 2007 10:29 pm

    Sigh.

  403. bram on August 28th, 2007 10:29 pm

    397 Not even close. Were you alive during the 2001 ALCS?

  404. davepaisley on August 28th, 2007 10:30 pm

    wow, from a 90% WPA to zero…

  405. WardP on August 28th, 2007 10:32 pm

    John McLaren.. putting the SUCK back in SUCCESS..

  406. Faceplant on August 28th, 2007 10:32 pm

    “I would submit that you don’t substitute ripping up Gerry Meals for whatever mental preparation you ought to have done. If that was the intent, it hasn’t worked.”

    I’m just kinda curious how you look at this performance and draw mental preparation as the reason the Mariners lost. Mental preparation doesn’t prevent the angels from getting four outs in an inning. And I didn’t really spot any mental mistakes. At least not by the players on the field.

    The Mariners lost because of a blown call, and terrible pitching. Period.

  407. krb on August 28th, 2007 10:32 pm

    Any chance we can get new umps for tomorrows game?

  408. JMHawkins on August 28th, 2007 10:32 pm

    I was more appalled when I saw McLaren giving the ball to Rick White than I would have been if he’d come out of the dugout and raised both middle fingers to every fan in the stadium. That was utterly indefensible

    When I saw how McLaren was using the bullpen in the 6th, I said to myself, “Self, Rick White is going to be pitching in a tie ballgame in the 8th.”

    I wasn’t quite so prescient to say it would be against Vladimir Guerrero with the bases loaded, but I suppose I should’ve known.

  409. JMHawkins on August 28th, 2007 10:33 pm

    Someone needs to buy McLaren a Managing For Dummies book

    Why, didn’t the publisher give him any Author’s proofs?

  410. PositivePaul on August 28th, 2007 10:34 pm

    I was more appalled when I saw McLaren giving the ball to Rick White than I would have been if he’d come out of the dugout and raised both middle fingers to every fan in the stadium. That was utterly indefensible.

    Well, really?

    Hmmm. I actually didn’t have a problem putting White in there. Vlad was 2-17 vs. White prior to that AB, and has done a pretty good job getting the hitters to keep it on the ground. There are far worse outcomes that could’ve happened than a broken bat single that just is beyond the reach of the third baseman.

    I’m the biggest GS52 non-related fan around, and I certainly wouldn’t've brought him in at that point. Certainly Putz might’ve been the best choice, but he wasn’t even warming up, and they were down 1 run already.

    To me, Mac already dug his grave when he decided to leave Morrow in to start the 8th.

  411. manholecover on August 28th, 2007 10:35 pm

    what number is higher, sexson OBP this year or rick white’s blood alcohol level when he decided to bleach his chin muff?

  412. Sports on a Schtick on August 28th, 2007 10:35 pm

    Ibanez in the outfield costing runs? Check.
    Letting the weak link in the bullpen pitch against the other team’s best hitter? Check.
    Failing to pinch-hit when it counts? Check.

  413. WardP on August 28th, 2007 10:35 pm

    Krueger questioning McLaren’s use of pitching? Cracks in the party line?

  414. davepaisley on August 28th, 2007 10:36 pm

    Wow, even Krueger is ripping Mac.

    Good for you Bill (for once).

  415. nickpdx on August 28th, 2007 10:38 pm

    Here’s the thought process that you have to go through in order to bring in Rick White in the 8th inning of that game:

    “I’m about to take out one of our better relievers because he isn’t getting it done to get us out of this inning. Should I step it up, bring in the Big Guns, to stop this potential catastrophe before it costs millions of lives? Yes, I should. I should bring in someone BETTER than the guy I’m about to take out. Someone who can do what this guy can’t. I should bring in
    Rick
    White.”

    FAIL

  416. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 10:39 pm

    Vlad was 2-17 vs. White prior to that AB

    Wow, 17 whole at bats between one of the best hitters in baseball and one of the crappiest veteran relievers in baseball! Seriously, 17 at bats proves absolutely nothing…a few more hits drop and Vlad would own White. The whole success against a pitcher thing is, for the most part, small sample size effects.

  417. The Unknown Comic on August 28th, 2007 10:40 pm

    Rick White as of tonight has officially settled into Julio Mateo’s old role in the bullpen.

  418. manholecover on August 28th, 2007 10:40 pm

    willie bloomquist really looked good out there today. he’s such a great player. i’m really glad he’s on the team.

  419. sankthetank on August 28th, 2007 10:42 pm

    I’m very thankful for USSM for many reasons, but one didn’t really make sense until today. I love the fact that there’s a site like this where hardcore, intelligent fans can share their misery. It’s strangely cathartic. Sadly, the last time it hurt this bad was 2003 so it’s been a while and you forget how legitimate and strong the pain can be. Anyway, thanks again USSM crew.

  420. Sports on a Schtick on August 28th, 2007 10:42 pm

    #417

    Screw Mateo, that was vintage Mariners bullpen in the 90′s full-fledged gas can.

  421. PositivePaul on August 28th, 2007 10:43 pm

    Wow, 17 whole at bats between one of the best hitters in baseball and one of the crappiest veteran relievers in baseball! Seriously, 17 at bats proves absolutely nothing…a few more hits drop and Vlad would own White. The whole success against a pitcher thing is, for the most part, small sample size effects.

    So, leave Morrow in, then?

    Try again.

    Bring in GS52?

    Nah.

    Putz?

    Wasn’t even warming up.

    I’m not saying it’s the best idea, just saying it’s not indefensible.

    It’s MORE indefensible not taking Morrow out earlier. And not pinch-hitting for Sexson in the 8th.

  422. manholecover on August 28th, 2007 10:44 pm

    i heard rick rizzs is going to shave his palmzzs for good luck tomorrow.

  423. vin on August 28th, 2007 10:44 pm

    Last night was understandable. Tonight may have ruined my Felix day.

    The thing is I don’t see a defense for it. JJ hasn’t pitched since the 24th. Vlad’s splits are nearly identical. Morrow was pitching well, but had balls get through, a close and then a horrible call go against him. And Rick White is not a good pitcher. Why do I, and everyone here, know this and the manager doesn’t? This bothers me more than anything in the world.

  424. Sports on a Schtick on August 28th, 2007 10:45 pm

    That begs the question, why the fuck wasn’t Putz warming up?

    That was the biggest moment of the game and McLaren left it in Rick White’s hands.

  425. manholecover on August 28th, 2007 10:50 pm

    424 and 423, because McLaren hasn’t managed a meaningful game since the Eisenhower administration and Rick White personally threatened to let off a stink bomb in the bullpen unless he got in the game.

    i wouldn’t be surprised if i woke up tomorrow to find putz is out for september with a dead arm and ichiro has a nude pictorial coming out in the october issue of Playgirrrr.

  426. PositivePaul on August 28th, 2007 10:51 pm

    Well, having a Tim Donaghy-approved umpiring crew certainly didn’t help things either. McLaren does his darndest to give the M’s the disadvantage as much as possible.

    So, yeah, it’s no wonder the M’s can’t do a thing in a big game and a big series.

    Speaking of small sample sizes. At least Felix fares a little better in day games than he does in night games, looking at the splits…

  427. Sidi on August 28th, 2007 10:51 pm

    421 ok, that I can understand. I just don’t think 17 at bats between such polar opposites is anything to make a real pitching decision upon.

  428. enazario on August 28th, 2007 10:55 pm

    Tomorrow’s a must win. 5 games with 32 games to go is a pretty big mountain to climb.

  429. jeffinfremont on August 28th, 2007 10:57 pm

    JHC, I’m doing my best to remain optimistic, but I can’t help feel that Felix is going to get shelled tomorrow and the M’s fall apart on the extended road trip.

    That, or I’m doing my very best reverse jinx.

  430. enazario on August 28th, 2007 10:57 pm

    I hate Bill Krueger and his stupid X and checks.

  431. Faceplant on August 28th, 2007 11:02 pm

    “Bring in GS52?

    Nah.”

    Why not?

    Against LH George Sherrill > Rick White

    Against RH George Sherrill > Rick White

    I’d say I hate McLarens obsessive belief in playing L/R matchups, but when he fills out a lineup card he doesn’t seem to know what platoon splits are.

  432. DKCecil on August 28th, 2007 11:06 pm

    God. I was there, and it was just deflating to hear them announce White coming into the game out of the pen. There’s just no defense for not warming up Putz in that situation. It doesn’t always have to be a save situation for him to go in, christ. Just depressing.

  433. eponymous coward on August 28th, 2007 11:11 pm

    So, let’s see, that’s THREE games where they’ve brought in the suck-ass veteran in a close game to help blow it. Parrish vs. Baltimore, and White twice in the past week. Only through the grace of God did we win the Baltimore game.

    Way to manage the bullpen, McLaren.

  434. JMHawkins on August 28th, 2007 11:17 pm

    Well, having a Tim Donaghy-approved umpiring crew certainly didn’t help things

    The umps definitely cost us this game. If they’d tossed McLaren before he started using the bullpen, I think we’d have hung on to win.

  435. eponymous coward on August 28th, 2007 11:20 pm

    I’m not saying it’s the best idea, just saying it’s not indefensible.

    I’m saying it’s indefensible. Rick White has no business being in any close ballgame, and it’s pretty blatant why- he got waived by the LAST PLACE and pitching-starved Houston Astros as being a no-talent assclown, and we have any number of better relievers to bring in (basically, every other reliever on the team).

    Mac’s done this THREE times in the past 15 days (I misspoke above, it was Minnesota):

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=270813112
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=270825113
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=270828112

    Basically, in the highest possible leverage situations, he had guys with ERAs that were deservedly bad pitching. What POSSIBLE explanation for this is this, other than a misguided belief that veteran=good?

  436. FrayLo on August 28th, 2007 11:26 pm

    What a disappointing game. Rick White in to pitch to Vlad? Are you kidding me?

    And I hate to be “That Guy” who complains about his fellow fans, but jeez…46,000 people there, and no one in my section wants to clap for anything. They all wait for the effing scoreboard to tell them when to cheer. If the scoreboard stops flashing, they stop cheering.

    I know, in the end it doesn’t affect the outcome of the game, but…it’s frustrating as a fan to be one of the few people actually cheering once in a while.

    And once again for good measure. RICK FREAKING WHITE pitching against VLAD?

  437. PositivePaul on August 28th, 2007 11:32 pm

    I absolutely will not defend Mac’s decision not to warm up JJ in that situation. I’m just saying, I would’ve brought in GS52 to start the 8th, with GMJ, followed by Morales, and lots of other batters before Vlad.

    And, even though I’m a HUGE GS52 freak, I’m not sure I would’ve even put him in there to face Vlad with the bases loaded, given the choice between Sherrill and White. Having White over Putz warming up was undefensible, barring Putz injury/illness. Bringing in White (reasonable GB/FB ratios) instead of GS52 (a bit of a FB pitcher, especially vs. tough righties) to face one of the toughest RH hitters isn’t completely unreasonable.

    I also would’ve walked Vlad in the 7th. No way you give Vlad anything close to hit. That hurt the M’s just as much as the 8th inning did. That was almost as much on the umpires as it was on the M’s.

  438. Stephen in Spokane on August 28th, 2007 11:33 pm

    I just want to puke.

  439. jephdood on August 28th, 2007 11:34 pm

    This team is fucking infuriating.

  440. eponymous coward on August 28th, 2007 11:38 pm

    And, even though I’m a HUGE GS52 freak, I’m not sure I would’ve even put him in there to face Vlad with the bases loaded, given the choice between Sherrill and White.

    It’s really easy. White sucks. He suck-diddly-ucks. He should be pitching garbage relief at best- and consider that Houston, a really bad team, wasn’t even willing to let him do that. Julio Mateo, who we all cringed last year when we saw him in a close game? He’s a better pitcher than White.

    White’s probably the worst relief pitcher on the roster (in a tie with HoRam for worst overall, likely). This is like pinch-hitting WFB for Ichiro with a runner on 3rd in a tie ballgame. There’s just no reason to do this, especially when it’s Wlad at the plate.

  441. Teej on August 28th, 2007 11:39 pm

    Mac’s done this THREE times in the past 15 days

    Hey, Rick White got a hold in that first game. Which means he did well, right? Holds are an awesome stat.

  442. scott19 on August 28th, 2007 11:39 pm

    Throwing salary away on a washed-up bum like White in the first place, and then using him in critical situations of perceivably must-win games, indeed lends suspicion to the conspiracy theory of Bavasi STILL being on the Angels’ payroll.

  443. Carson on August 28th, 2007 11:41 pm

    Just got back from the game. As I predicted after I got back last night, not drinking two nights in a row turned out to not be an option.

    While I was at work today, I started to send an email to the authors asking how they thought McLaren has done, as compared to Hargrove as we have a plenty big enough sample to work on. I opted to not do it, and irony slaps me in the face.

    I have decided not to purchase my season tickets next year as long as the current regime stays intact. There is no chance I am going to go through a whole season of this. If McLaren goes, I might reconsider. But if he and Bavasi are both back, I’m out.

    Can you believe people were doing the wave during a crucial part of the game? And even worse, people around me were turning around and giving me dirty looks when I voiced my displeasure of not being able to see what the hell was going on.

    The game had a serious October feel tonight. Until the lead was evaporated and it was apparent we were going to lose. People like reverted back to the non passionate fans I’ve come to see game after game.

  444. FrayLo on August 28th, 2007 11:46 pm

    443, I’ve given up hope on casual Mariners fans. like I said above, they only cheer when the scoreboard tells them to, or if someone’s trying to get the wave started. then when the wave is going, all these people pay attention to the wave instead of the pitcher/batter matchup, which most likely has some significance.

    furthermore, it always amuses me when people cheer for a supposed “sacrifice” that really doesn’t help us.

    1995 was 12 years ago, you think we’d have some semblance of intelligent baseball fans aside from those who are on the tubes of the internets. i guess i’m a wishful thinker.

  445. jephdood on August 28th, 2007 11:49 pm

    Safeco is so ‘family friendly’ that most of the people in the joint at any given time don’t know a damn thing about baseball.

  446. msb on August 28th, 2007 11:50 pm

    ok, so I finished the due-back Slings & arrows (and is that an ironic title tonight) and thus missed most of the ensuing carnage, aside from Raul’s face-plant into the wall as the ball went flying the other direction.

    so, what was Meals’ egregious call? and I assume White gave up the 4 runs next to Morrow’s name?

  447. msb on August 28th, 2007 11:56 pm

    ok. Baker filled me in. Those darned blogs, what will they think of next.

  448. Carson on August 28th, 2007 11:56 pm

    444/445 – Yeah, and you know, I totally understand that there is a place for the casual fan. The hydro races, hat trick, those are all modern day versions of “Take Me Out to the (Willie) Ballgame.” You have to toss some other form of entertainment in to keep certain people buying tickets and beer.

    With that said, my frustration set in when one second people were on their feet concerned with every pitch (October feel), then when some idiot starts the wave, they ALL turn away from the goings on of the game to watch the wave (Typical Seattle feel). How does that happen? Was the stadium filled with 40,000 people with ADD?

  449. scott19 on August 29th, 2007 12:04 am

    444: Agreed. I personally think these idiot kids that spend the whole game circling the park trying to get the wave going should be escorted by the ushers to the nearest exit.

    Then again, I guess they only do that when the Yanks are in town — and spirited fans who truly understand what a rivalry is wear their “Yankees Suck” shirts only to get tossed out for doing so.

  450. SMJ on August 29th, 2007 12:12 am

    In light of White’s performance, I can’t identify the logical fallacy the FO/McLaren has for assuming that a player having “veteran” status will result in greater performance than a player who has less exposure in the league.

    Much like the gambler’s fallacy in that Sexson will eventually be launching a barrage of rockets off of his bat if he gets more plate appearances, there should be a snappy name for the fallacy that “Veteran = Good” fits into.

    Could someone figure this out?

  451. scottg02 on August 29th, 2007 12:13 am

    Its a good thing I didn’t have any weapons or sharp objects around me, I mighta used them on myself.

    Then again, that would probably be less painful then suffering through that ballgame once the first out was recorded.

    Seriously, it was all over for me when they showed George Sherrill just getting up in the pen for the first time…. later in the inning they show Rick White is warming up with him and I’m like, oh fuck, they’re not going to use Sherrill and they are going to use White. Sure enough, after the intentional walk he makes the call for White. I thought it was some sort of cruel fucking joke.

    We got to our best middle releiver (Sherrill) after the game is basically over, using evryone else in the bullpen before him. WHy bring the best guy in after it doesn’t matter? The umps just made it worse. This team is too frustrating to be a fan of. How the hell is Sexson still playing? GOd I hope Felix can salvage this series.

  452. Sports on a Schtick on August 29th, 2007 12:14 am

    I was at a Giants-Dodgers at Chavez Ravine (when Bonds was at 754) when some kids tried to start The Wave. They were promptly pelted with various materials and expletives.

  453. Tak on August 29th, 2007 12:21 am

    Casual fans are the only reason why baseball even exists. Without a fan base, however dumb they might be, no sport can operate as a business. Sports are supposed to be there for entertainment, if the fans are having fun then thats all that matters. Why should you let that bother you? If you want to watch the game “seriously”, then you should (like most readers here), there is nothing from stopping you. (well at least I have never been really bothered by the surrounding fans, but maybe thats because I am one of those casual fans out there as well)

    And yeah, people should probably not get too cocky about their team until its all over. Now those who made stupid cocky remarks earlier in the thread look totally dumb, ultimatelly making every other poster look like a cocky bastard as well.

  454. scottg02 on August 29th, 2007 12:25 am

    Yeah, you dolts that emailed Plaschke, I’m sure he went (or will) check his email, read through them and just start laughing out loud.

  455. thefin190 on August 29th, 2007 12:36 am

    I know the game is over

    But when I heard Rick White coming in with Bases-loaded against Guerrero with a close game on the line. I thought a couple things.

    1. Oh $%@#

    2. Of course typical Johnny Mac. Maybe he gets a high off sending useless veteran relievers in close games. I can’t think of any other reason he keeps making the same mistakes. Reitsma, Parrish, and now White. I wonder which cruddy reliever will be on the roster next week for Mac to turn to when an important game is on the line.

  456. scott19 on August 29th, 2007 12:43 am

    Re Plaschke: I’m a firm believer in not counting chickens before they are hatched.

    However, if he’s a typical OC wishy-washy sporto, he’ll no doubt be jumping back over to the Dodgers bandwagon the minute the Angies have to start rebuilding in a few years time.

  457. lailaihei on August 29th, 2007 1:16 am

    I hope we lose the rest of our games this season.
    I can’t stand the management and even if we got to postseason, you think Mac could handle that? We’d probably get swept in our first series.

  458. nrehse83 on August 29th, 2007 2:47 am

    This was a tough game to be in attendance. A quick 5-0 lead lulled me into a state of confidence…..which was promptly dashed by a vintage Weaver performance. Ichiro ultimately pulled through and brought victory back within the M’s grasp, but McLaren left Morrow out to rot on the mound, then brought in f#$%ing Rick White to seal the deal. What a god damned joke. How can I take this team seriously? With 2 outs in the 8th, bases loaded, down by one run, our manager brings in an over the hill, NL reject reliever.

    We have one of the best RP’s in baseball, one who didn’t see action last night. What are we saving JJ for? I am dumbfounded. The M’s will not be playing in October with the current roster construction, and more importantly the maddening ineptitude of our beloved manager.

  459. pgreyy on August 29th, 2007 3:18 am

    A few late thoughts.

    1) Our offense let us down. I know, I know…we pounded on Santana while we could…but we HAD to find a way to keep pounding on them until they were dead…and we let Dustin Moseley own us.

    2) Weaver got squeezed a few times and lost focus. Felix, obviously, loses focus rather easily. It seems that our entire pitching staff is so fragile that if they make a mistake, they can’t recover from it. That, to me, sounds either like a managerial (motivational) problem or a coaching problem…above and beyond just “stuff.”

    3) Yeah, we’ve been getting some bad breaks on calls over the past few games. Quality teams absorb the hit and still find ways to win. Can’t put this on the umps.

    4) Rick White coming in with the bases loaded and the game on the line? Ooof.

    5) Regarding the complaints about the “casual fans” at Safeco. I read people complaining here about how the fans only clap when told to by the scoreboard–and then I read those same people complaining that “nobody was standing and clapping when we had two outs.” To me, clapping with two outs or two strikes is just as sheep-like as clapping when the scoreboard tells you to… With the exception of GS52 and JJ (and even THEY can be questionable), there isn’t anyone on the staff that I feel confident enough to stand up and cheer just because they’ve almost done what we pay them to try and do.

    And if you complained about the fans not clapping during THIS game–other than the bottom of the first, what, pray tell, was there to clap for?

    If our team does something good, I’ll cheer my heart out… And, from time to time, I’ll cheer to try to motivate the team towards better performance… But just because I don’t do the hokey pokey when you’ve trained yourself to do it…doesn’t make me a less knowledgeable fan.

    Maybe what I know is that I’ve just been burned too many times before…

    pg

    PS–The team is already tired…and not going to get any rest any time soon… Somebody’s got to step up or it can all slip away. I’ll be cheering tomorrow, but I’m already taking the necessary steps not to leave myself vulnerable to a broken heart.

    For all of the talk about “veteran leadership”…there’d better be someone in that clubhouse who can motivate and guide us. I certainly don’t feel confidant that it’ll be a manager OR a coach.

  460. vj on August 29th, 2007 5:58 am

    Cheer up folks, it’s KING FELIX DAY!

  461. mln on August 29th, 2007 6:33 am

    The surest omen that the Mariners were destined to lose this game was Rick White’s weird day-glo goatee.

    As the kids used to say in the 1980s, Freakazoid.

  462. bram on August 29th, 2007 10:32 am

    406

    Come on, the Angels *pounded* the M’s in these two games. Getting “breaks” wouldn’t have made any difference – the Angels responded ferociously when the M’s issued any challenge.

    Now, the Angels are simply better than the M’s. They have a better repeatable skill set and better tactical management. If the M’s wanted to perform better in this series, there would be two ways, either the Angels would have to underachieve or the M’s would have to overachieve.

    If you don’t have the skills to match your opponent, how do you overachieve? Several ways. Will, focus, exploit tactical advantages by being smarter than your opponent, etc. (Having the last at-bat helps too.) The Angels are performing at or above their capabilities in this series. The M’s are not. Not a recipe for success.

    My question is what’s the root cause? Given how lethargic the entire team looked Sunday in Texas, fatigue is a very plausible candidate, but that should even out after the first game. Hence, my theory. I suspect the Angels are as mentally prepared and focused as the situation warrants, the M’s aren’t. Combine that with the skills deficit and you get two blowout losses (and a possible sweep) at home.

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