Game 132, Mariners at Indians

JMB · August 30, 2007 at 3:02 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

LHP Ramirez vs. LHP Aaron Laffey, 4:05pm, radio only?

Ramirez, 2007 road: 8 G, 38.1 IP, 61 H, 45 R, 6 HR, 20 BB, 17 K, .363 BAA. That’s almost an unfathomably bad line.

Laffey, making his fourth major league start, is a groundball machine. First time out, he was 11:5 GB:FB. Second start, 14:2. Last start, 15:0. That’s not a typo. I’m sure Dave loves Aaron Laffey.

I’m going to go grab some BBQ, watch the game, and contemplate staying up to watch USA Hoops vs. Argentina at midnight.

CF Ichiro       CF Sizemore
2B Vidro        2B Cabrera
DH Guillen      DH Hafner
LF Ibanez       C  Martinez
3B Beltre       1B Garko
1B Sexson       SS Peralta
C  Johjima      RF Gutierrez
RF Jones        LF Michaels
SS Betancourt   3B Gomez


389 Responses to “Game 132, Mariners at Indians”

  1. Mike Honcho on August 30th, 2007 7:27 pm

    My thoughts exactly, john…

  2. Mat on August 30th, 2007 7:27 pm

    sigh. 30+ pitches thrown, a couple of baserunners on, and one whole run to come out of it.

    That was certainly an important run, though.

  3. mr.smartypants on August 30th, 2007 7:28 pm

    if this goes to the 10th we’d better score, or else there’s a good chance of a Rick White sighting

  4. jlc on August 30th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Well, that wasn’t part of the plan.

  5. Mike Honcho on August 30th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Aaaaaaaand still! No JJ Putz.

  6. zzyzx on August 30th, 2007 7:31 pm

    Speaking of the 97 pen…

  7. Mike G. on August 30th, 2007 7:37 pm

    McLaren really doesn’t want to win this game, does he?

  8. Shizane on August 30th, 2007 7:40 pm

    i swear to god, if white blows this game, he owes you guys a new server

  9. marinermiles on August 30th, 2007 7:45 pm


    McLaren does this AGAIN. I just can’t f**kin believe this.

  10. terry on August 30th, 2007 7:46 pm

    I think it’s safe to say that USSMers have much bigger axes to grind then Jones’ playing time….

  11. JG on August 30th, 2007 7:53 pm

    Rick White must be a war veteran cause I just got shell shock.
    (rim shot)

  12. msb on August 30th, 2007 7:57 pm

    ok. I checked in with my dad, and then came back to find that apparently not only did JJ not come in, but Richard F. White was back once more.

    And walked in the winning run.

    so, did JJ’s arm fall off, and they forgot to tell us?

  13. vin on August 30th, 2007 7:58 pm

    I don’t remember which game it was but JJ must have missed at least three tags. That’s the only thing that could explain this.

  14. DKCecil on August 30th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Welp. That’s that.

  15. msb on August 30th, 2007 8:07 pm

    according to Mac, White was the only available pitcher. Ryan R-S was held out to be the long man if they went to extra innings and they ‘had to have JJ available to wrap it up if they tok the lead’.

  16. nickpdx on August 30th, 2007 8:07 pm

    What. The. Fuck.

  17. msb on August 30th, 2007 8:09 pm

    also according to Mac, Sexson has been been battling the hamstring for a while, but with the way it was hurt tonight, and with turf coming up, he thinks Richie will be sitting for a few days, even if ‘Richie is trying to be a warrior’– because you know, ‘it’s hurting his hitting a little bit’

  18. Suckerjones on August 30th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Oy! For F#$%s Sake! White? Why? Do they hate us? Has McLaren decided to quit? Seriously, it took me about two seconds to think, “bottom of the ninth, on the road, tie ball game . . . maybe I should bring in my best reliever.” Then here comes Mr. White (who from now on will be known as Mr. Pink). Somebody tell me JJ is hurt. Somebody make sense of this apparent stupidity. Please? Somebody offer me a beer. Mmmm. Beer. Good night moon.

  19. rcc on August 30th, 2007 8:10 pm

    Vidro on second, White on the mound, Sexson on first….how bad can it get….the M’s are toast, and you can point the finger at McLaren. By the time the M’s return next month after this road trip they will be hopelessly out of the wild card race.

  20. Rydogg2122 on August 30th, 2007 8:11 pm

    I am moving on to football. The baseball season is officially over for me thanks. Good luck to the Angels and Yankees in the playoffs.

  21. msb on August 30th, 2007 8:11 pm

    Norm thinks Mac is using JJ the way he is because that was the way Lou kied to do it, and he’s been Lou’s bullpen & bench coach for so long … but he thinks JJ may need to get the rust off after sitting for a week

  22. WardP on August 30th, 2007 8:12 pm

    Unbefuckinglievable. Mac’s plan is apparently to have Gas Can White torch every game remaining this year.

    Why would you let a reject from the Astros anywhere near an AL pennant race?


    The days just get darker. Any poster on this thread (except maybe me) could run the team better.

  23. jefffrane on August 30th, 2007 8:15 pm

    It entirely makes sense to play this game the way the Skipper did. I mean, close game, ninth inning, best thing to do is get someone who pitched so badly that the Astros let him go and put him in. Eh, so he walks in the winning run, big deal. We’ll get the run back in the 10th.

    What? No 10th inning? When did they change *that* rule?

  24. hub on August 30th, 2007 8:18 pm

    Very poor baseball move…by a manager who is looking very poor himself.

  25. 3cardmonty on August 30th, 2007 8:19 pm

    Bobby Ayala, that ridiculous platinum blond beard isn’t fooling anyone anymore.

  26. dcmarinerfan on August 30th, 2007 8:19 pm

    Tonight was absolutely heartbreaking to watch on TV. This Mariner team is too good to have this happen again and again. HoRam put together a decent start and to lose this game this way is incomprehensible.

    There’s no way that anyone can convince me that we don’t have a minor leaguer who’s a better pitcher right now for us out of the bullpen than Rick White. No way!

    Toronto needs to be at least 2/3 and it would be great to sweep heading into a huge series next week.

    This is our season right here, and if Mac continues to put us in positions to lose and if the bullpen doesn’t get things done, it’s going to be all for naught.

  27. WardP on August 30th, 2007 8:22 pm

    The callup we need from Tacoma is Daren Brown..

  28. kenshabby on August 30th, 2007 8:24 pm

    I just need to yell it from the rooftops: RICK MOTHERFUCKING WHITE!!!!!

    Ah, much better. Someone else can do the same with McLaren.

  29. Draeger on August 30th, 2007 8:27 pm

    Look at the bright side.. all the use White’s gotten lately, they’re likely to NOT use him tomorrow, as he needs to rest his veteran arm so he’s available in tight games for the future!

  30. SMJ on August 30th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Is this “veteran arm in the bullpen” experiment going to end anytime soon? It’s a miserable failure, and watching all of these games get thrown away or put out of reach is seriously disgusting.

    At this pace, JJ will be starting his trot out to the mound in 2008.

  31. John in L.A. on August 30th, 2007 8:34 pm

    “according to Mac, White was the only available pitcher. Ryan R-S was held out to be the long man if they went to extra innings and they ‘had to have JJ available to wrap it up if they tok the lead’.”

    He has a completely different definition of “only available pitcher than I do.

    Friggin’ morons. At least it’s gotten so F’ing ridiculous that I’m laughing instead of crying.

    I mean, could you have scripted a dumber ending to this game?

  32. kenshabby on August 30th, 2007 8:37 pm

    Maybe it’s time to start instigating conspiracy theories. Like, Steinbrenner paying off Bavasi & pals to make such dreadful decisions that the Yanks have an easy time capturing the wild card. Or, Mac being sick with mad cow disease.

  33. hub on August 30th, 2007 8:44 pm

    I miss Maury Wills, Del Crandall, and Bill Plummer. Really.

  34. scott19 on August 30th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Having taken a walk to cool off while the server was cooling off, I’m afraid I must still state the obvious: namely, if Mac has not yet been scheduled to an appointment at Western State Hospital for a complete psychiatric evaluation, then the FO must make it a priority.

  35. Lauren, token chick on August 30th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Just arrived home to news of another loss. I haven’t read all the comments yet but…

    Rick White proved himself unreliable again! Adam Jones went 2 for 3 with a homer! Richie Sexson strained his hamstring, possibly making himself unusable for at least a few games! Maybe these things will make for a change. Soon. Please.

  36. scott19 on August 30th, 2007 9:15 pm

    370: I would pretty much agree — though I will wish good luck to whichever NL team plays the Yanks or Angies in the WS to beat the living crap out of EITHER of them!

  37. Rydogg2122 on August 30th, 2007 10:37 pm

    386 – Well yeah, I wasn’t rooting for the Yankees to go anywhere in the playoffs, I never do. Just stating the obvious. The only way for things to get better is for things to get worse. And with the upcoming “nail in the coffin” series in New York and Detroit. Hopefully the positive thing that comes out this is a FO house cleaning. That is really where the problem lies. Poor management, poor player utilization. They continue to go with mediocre relievers in pressure situations (Reitsma, Parrish, now White). They continue to go with a guy batting .207 when they have a better solution collecting dust on the bench. I mean this is almost September, I really don’t think he is going to miraculously turn things around. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mariners say that Sexson has been playing thru his hamstring injury all season. Just to downplay his poor hitting.

  38. jephdood on August 30th, 2007 11:00 pm

    We HAVE the players to win this. But how they’re used (or NOT used) is the complete cluster f*ck here. John McLaren has turned out to be a HORRIBLE manager. And the persistant insertion of crap ‘veteran’ arms into the bullpen has thrown that once-great group WAY out of whack. If the inept decision-making continues on this path, any glimmer of playoff hopes are gone.

  39. gwangung on August 31st, 2007 1:07 am

    according to Mac, White was the only available pitcher. Ryan R-S was held out to be the long man if they went to extra innings and they ‘had to have JJ available to wrap it up if they tok the lead’.

    And if they USE Ryan Rowland-Smith to get to extra innings, there’s no rule that he couldn’t CONTINUED to be used, hm? As a long man?

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