Game 142, Athletics at Mariners
DMZ · September 10, 2007 at 6:20 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
Blanton v Ramirez. 7:05.
Blanton 5.48 K/9, 1.4 BB/9, .6 HR/9, 3.38 FIP
Ramirez 3.64 K/9, 3.64 BB/9, 1.12 HR/9, 5.29 FIP
Broussard plays first with Sexson’s hammy apptly acting up, Vidro returns to DH duties.
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Considering that anemic A’s offense, tonight might actually be fun.
And Ichiro vs. Blanton, Round 2!
Vidro not batting 2nd for the first time in months.
J. Hannahan 3b?
Krueger says this year the Mariners realized they could beat Oakland.
oh, and the Big Three left, and the young guys all got hurt. That helped too.
oh.
“Hannahan was leading the International League in on-base percentage (.422) at the time of the trade and was tied for seventh in all of the minors in walks (76).”
2 Because Beltre got ‘hot’ and they won with him in the two spot so now he can’t be moved?
Where is Ellison when we need him? Porky needs to get pushed again.
#6– polishing the bench in Cincy, right?
Can someone explain to me the reason to bat Beltre second? He’s got some speed, but based on his power and onbase skills, I’d think he’d be more valuable like fourth or fifth. Any thought?
5 games behind. So sad when we had the lead a little over a week ago.
7- Last I heard he was still sanding it, but he might have moved to polishing it by now.
8 – The reason is that we won yesterday, and would Mac ever mess around with something that ‘worked’?
I’m at the game. I’ve never seen it this empty. It looks like it’s 6pm and it’s still filling up, only it’s game time.
They will announce 25k but I bet it’s a shade over 11k in the seats.
The A’s have used an entire football team!!
Seattle has fallen from #1 to #15 in attendance. And that’s including Florida, Tampa Bay, and Oakland.
crap. HoRam just remembered who he was.
what in the cliff barnes is going on with horam ?
This is hilarious.
You are fucking awful HoRam, I would find another profession.
I had to laugh about the radio comment about Ramirez “all of a sudden losing control” a moment ago.
It’s much like saying Tom Cruise is “all of a sudden a little nuts” or the Titanic is “all of a sudden a little wet.”
Sad thing is, I’m not even mad. It was expected.
Is there any chance Glenn Abbott might still be available/alive? He certainly couldn’t do any worse than Horrible HoRam
sadly, Mac already had someone up in the bullpen– HoRam was still too fast for him.
Gah, not radio, TV comment. I can’t look at the game because of the pure suck, so it’s much like radio.
Oh yeah, being in Oakland here, the A’s announcers, naturally, went crazy over that grand slam.
Suzuki hits a grand slam!
Unfortunately from the Mariners’ viewpoint, it was Kurt–not Ichiro–Suzuki.
Its almost like Ramirez isn’t that great or something
good investment, Bill.
Your Seattle Mariners.
We Make Bad Teams Feel Good About Themselves.
Feierabend is the “definition of the long reliever”?
Unless Soriano ends up being Vick’s partner in crime down in Atl, I think we got hosed on that deal.
Glad that we still don’t get to see the young talent we brought up from AAA. Obviously this team is serious about winning, HoRam on the mound just lets the league know we are serious!
has anyone ever seen a BABPIP chart like horam’s . . . it just goes up since 2004, his best moments this season are worse than his worse stretches early in ihs careeer.
#29– when HoRam is the starter, why, yes, yes he is.
So. Um.
How bout dem Huskies?
again?
I’d like to see a shot of Bavasi in the GM’s box, cradling his overlong bald head in his hands, looking dejected, humiliated, morose, ashamed at his own stupidity.
Any chance of that?
why is Scutaro apologising to the pitcher, for throwing a good throw to the pitcher, that the pitcher just dropped?
#35– I used to have a newspaper shot of Moyer– head down, yawning in the dugout …. if only I could photoshop.
Not only have the Mariners driven off a cliff, but the car burst into flames and then landed on top of the already broken, mangled bodies lying at the bottom of the ravine.
This team is very much like the leftovers you find in the back of your fridge. You vaguely remember, that at one point, it was quite a fine meal…worth not only savoring, but storing away.
But at this point something has gone very wrong. So wrong in fact that you can’t just throw the evidence in the trash and move on. You have to see just how much taller that fungus can grow…you have to say to your buddy “hey, smell this!”
What do you mean the car landed? It’s still rolling down the cliff far as I can see. And I think it just hit a orphans picnic.
were kindly nuns in charge of those orphans?
Dave: “Do you have dual citizenship?”
Mike: “No.”
Dave: “Do you like to watch movies about gladiators?”
Ok, it landed on top of the broken, mangled bodies, then kept its trajectory down the cliff. It reached a small plateau and the burning chassis mowed through an orphans’ picnic. Then it continued rolling, and is aimed squarely at a nunnery located toward the bottom of the hill. A nunnery that nurses sick, abandoned pets back to health.
damn patient hitters.
Come on, Kurt!
That grand slam increased Suzuki’s RBI total by 11%.
This game (and season) are getting so out of hand, isn’t it time to partake of a little roster-bation?
What the hell is up with South Dakota trivia night?
The Mariners entered tonight tied for second in the majors in doubleplays. Boston and Seattle are at 132, KC at 134.
Total plate appearances: KC 5425, Boston 5730, Seattle 5409.
M’s are in 2nd place in groundballs with 1999, trailing only Minnesota with 2113.
M’s are last in walks with 343, KC is next to last with 391.
M’s are next to last in strikeouts at 718.
Yup. Kindly old nuns that sing French folk songs with the voice of angels. Or, were.
Did I mention they were AIDS orphans?
One Suzuki is sucking all the power out of the other Suzuki.
Ichiro GIDP… thats unusual
Dave: “I worked at Mt. Rushmore, I told you that story.”
Mike: “No, you haven’t.”
Hey, Shut Up Mike!! We don’t want to hear Dave’s summer college job story.
#52 lol I’m in the bay area on business and am watching the Oakland broadcast, but after reading your last couple quotes I really wish I was watching the M’s feed.
I can’t wait to see what McLaren does with the lineup tomorrow. We’re going to be 15 games behind the Yankees on the last day of the season when Adam Jones finally makes another appearance… as a pinch runner (in a blowout of course).
I really like the GameDay Audio feature on MLB.com’s GameDay. It only costs me $14.95 for a full year. So, I suppose, that means I can listen to the postseason games at my computer. Oh, joy.
#42, 52– actually, I was kind of hoping that Mike & Dave would talk more about it, as Mike’s background would make for a fine tv movie — maybe on the Lifetime Channel …
American GI meets and courts German girl, has a family, is transferred to Oklahoma, and 6 months later is shipped out to Vietnam. Soldier returns from Vietnam two years later a broken man, and after strife leaves family to find himself (if not child support). Mother learns English, works multiple odd jobs to support the four kids for about 4 years, when she meets another soldier, Carlos Ramos, the man Blowers is usually referring to when he says “my dad”.
56- Mike’s life sure, but Dave Neihaus South Dakota pop quiz was rather out of place.
wasn’t the trivia question answer South Dakota?
Maybe, I find myself blacking out for innings at a time watching lately.
But did we need to know where the University of South Dakota was and how to spell the capital? We now know Dave bussed tables at a restaurant near Mt. Rushmore for a summer job in college. Seems out of place for a baseball game to me.
apparently [SIMS] missed that after the game Bonderman had an MRI on his elbow. I’m guessing that Bonderman really isn’t wondering ‘what happened’ yesterday.
#59– I think Neihaus would rather think about butchering buffalo than the Mariner inability to hit Blanton.
But did we need to know where the University of South Dakota was and how to spell the capital? We now know Dave bussed tables at a restaurant near Mt. Rushmore for a summer job in college. Seems out of place for a baseball game to me.
Spiro, Oklahoma.
Sorry for the pain that may have caused.
Somewhere, the ’95 Angels are pointing their fingers at us and giving a collective Nelson Muntz laugh.
Is the Beltre fan referred to as “Red”? The Oakland broadcasters were just focusing on him, comparing his appearance to the Cowardly Lion.
Watching A’s broadcast while in CA. The tag line during breaks? “Watch the A’s end the Mariner’s playoff dreams.”
They’re also obsessed with that red-haired bearded Beltre fan. “He’s The Cowardly Lion!”
So, do we now hold the top spot for most GIDPs this year? That’s 3 so far tonight, right?
yup– Jeff at LL first id’d him by the Cowardly Lion looks as well before he met him, and found out his nickname was Red
LL’s first Red blog post
This game makes me sad.
so, this would be why some are high on Daric Barton?
#69– would Warm & Fuzzy Hippo Happiness make you feel better?
Ichiro makes me happy.
Ichiro makes us all happy.
Especially when he calls out the umpires.
The girl who delivered the rally fries could make me happy.
I think the whole stadium would have to get fries to rally this game.
this would have been a really good game if HoRam hadn’t started it.
Ichiro may make us happy, but he seems a bit sad himself. A couple choice quotes from this weekend:
“I don’t even have words to express my feelings any more at this point.”
“At this point, you can almost laugh about it because it’s so silly.”
This would have been a better use of time if I hadn’t started watching.
“At this point, you can almost laugh about it because it’s so silly.â€
That’s exactly the point I’ve reached. Of course, I came to the realization that I was a masochist soon after leaving high school…and my friends tend to know that, if I’m smiling too much, something is seriously wrong.
#77– hey, the umpire dissing I was talking about!
The normally impassive Ichiro complained about the call on the field. And after the game, Ichiro, the pressures of this long season perhaps getting to him, could barely contain his disgust.
“It’s kind of to the point where I’ve given up about this topic,” Ichiro said through interpreter Ken Barron. “I don’t even have words to express my feelings any more at this point. At this point, you can almost laugh about it because it’s so silly. Ichiro then added: “I thought everybody here, at the major-league level, is professional. I thought that’s the reason they are at the major-league level.”
You have to wonder if the umpire situation is as ‘old boy regardless of talent’ driven a system as baseball management generally is.
Yeah, a bit unusual for Ichiro.
Perhaps a reaction for the bitter disappointment of the recent losing streak (and I think he’s not blaming the team or manager for it, unlike previous years….)
Wow…only 82 comments. Not that I’m that surprised. The race is over and obviously people are going to lose interest, but still.
Falling out of contention like this must be especially excrutiating for Ichiro, considering the new contract, the apparent progress the team had made, and his own massive commitment to winning. What a damn shame. This is one of the most disappointing M’s seasons I can recall (and I can recall back over 20 years).
So, here’s a quiz. Which team would you least like to be a fan of (to make us all feel better). I’m going to go with the Brewers. They may be competing for the division, but I would have abandoned baseball due to the Selig stink long ago.
or the disappointment of having four blatantly bad calls made on him in a two week period
I wonder if Ichiro feels better now that Hargrove is gone.
It’s kind of sad (read: frustrating, annoying, anger-inducing) when you see more of a “Free Adam Jones” sign, than actually seeing said Adam Jones.
Have we now seen the last of HoRam in a Mariners Uni?
This would have been a very good time to pinch hit.
89. Unfortunately, I think not. Unless Bavasi gets fired.
A dying breath.
too bad there was no one on base ahead of Jose …
#89– [SIMS] asked Mike if he thought it would be HoRam’s last start, and Blow thought he’d get at least one more …
Our one player who can draw a walk just did.
gasp! the closer in the 8th??!?!
the bad part about trying to crawl back into the Wild Card race is depending on the teams ahead of you also losing.
“Fans chanted “M-V-P!” when Magglio Ordonez came to the plate in the bottom of the ninth Monday night.
Once again, he delivered. Ordonez hit a two-run single with two outs in the ninth inning, capping a four-run rally that lifted the Detroit Tigers over the Toronto Blue Jays 5-4.”
If you watch Morrow’s arm wiggle around as he comes to the plate, you will realize why he is a candidate to join the long list of sore-armed Mariner pitchers. Unless he changes his mechanics, he is best suited to one-inning relief appearances.
The Mariners need a Magglio Ordonez.
The Mariners need a Magglio Ordonez.
Hell, at this point Rey Ordonez might improve the team.
so, does Eric Chavez win the Gold Glove again this year?
“Hell, at this point Rey Ordonez might improve the team.”
We could then get Rey Sanchez, and call the team the Devil Reys.
Not to pee on the third rail, but — rumors that HoRam’s going to get bounced from the rotation are like the Friedman Units of the Iraq War: we’re often told that HoRam’s going to be turned around, that he’s making progress, or that he’ll be replaced by someone who can help the team if he doesn’t shape up in the next start, or the next two starts — and it never happens. I’m resigned to it now: if something ever happens, I’ll be pleasantly surprised, but I don’t expect it.
Nah, ARod wins the Gold Glove. He’s only got 11 errors while fielding his own zone plus half of Derek Jeter’s. And he’s the best player in baseball this season, too, so he’s got lots of hardware coming to him.
I just don’t want him to get a WS ring, unless he buys Darryl Strawberry’s.
Or maybe not. I guess Strawberry was a regular during the WS-less Don Mattingly years…
I haven’t even heard rumors that he might be removed from the rotation, so resignation is my way of being.
hmm. maybe it’s time from Brandon to sit down, and rest up for that Winter Ball stint.
David Justice’s ring?
Maybe Roger Clemens will let ARod take a look at HIS ring. (and I hope that’s the only one HE gets, too)
(hee-hee)
#83 — There’s really nothing to say that hasn’t been said. Same old losing, same old losing lineup, same old losing manager. It could be worse, like at Geoff Baker’s blog where the sabermetric people and the stone age people are at each other’s throats.
I’m losing my mind…
oh, [Lauren].
As Homer Simpson would say, “Jebus!”
RRS making the Ho feel more secure in his job.
I can only laugh maniacally now…
Yikes! Awful pitching.
I am officially DONE with this team.
GO HAWKS
GO COUGS!!!!
See ya’ll in the spring………..
Your Seattle Mariners.
You gotta feel sorry for these guys.
Think about it. Even if HoRam held the A’s to that one run before the GS, the M’s would STILL be losing this game.
The second time in A’s franchise history that 2 GS have been hit in the same game. One more historical footnote that includes the M’s: we have The Losing Streak, this, and that 20K game back in ’86.
Lovely.
God awful. With apologies to God
104 – He could buy Strawberry’s ring from the ’86 Series. Speaking of which, at least my favorite NL team is going to the playoffs. Yay!
Brandon Morrow, the human bases-on-balls machine. He’s almost at a 1:1 BB:IP ratio.
Thanks “bmalpine”. I’ll be banning you from commenting for the next nine months to make sure you’re not tempted.
What?
was the Cleveland Collapse a record, or just an embarrasment?
God awful. With apologies to God
If he/she/it created the Mariners, I don’t imagine any repercussions for even the most violent reactions to their playing.
Clement? Is this his first?
Who else gets the feeling that Ichiro will have a lawyer looking at his contract to see if there’s any way that he can opt out?
no, he was in the other day …
God was?
He should have had his agent and his lawyer write into his contract a clause that allows him major stockholder status in the Mariners ownership. I’ll bet he’d make a better GM than the one they have now. And a better field manager, too. Heck, I’d LOVE to have Ichiro be the M’s player-manager.
There’d be a few changes in the post-game spread if that ever happened.
tchaw. God is Everywhere, Derek.
He didn’t have an at-bat, though, unlike Jeff Clement.
End of another horrible game: I’m going to go fix myself a nice cocktail now.
heh… I guess I haven’t been watching. I wonder why.
Karen, I’ll take a G&T, heavy on the G.
Mmm… G&Ts.
To be honest I had not a clue who was starting for the M’s tonight, but one look at the boxscore and I knew it was none other than Horam.
“Have we now seen the last of HoRam in a Mariners Uni?”
First time I read that I saw “Mariners Urn”
Fitting for the ashes that the disaster named HoRam has created…
125 – That would be a sweet idea! Id love to see that, even though that’d never happen. Ichiro being manager-player. But heck, him, just as anyone, would be a better manager than John McLaren has. I think Dave should consider interviewing for the role. He seems to have more knowledge of the players than Mac does.
was the Cleveland Collapse a record, or just an embarrasment?
Same-same. For this team anyway.
This is like a cheap horror flick where the ancient, decrepit witch uses some unholy potion to look like a twenty year old hottie so she can drain the life-force out of young, unsuspecting studs, extending her own necrotic existence. At the beginning, we’re told she’s a horrible hag, but we only see her in her transformed guise. A few times during the movie, we catch glimpses of what she really is – a gnarled finger or patch of blotched and paper thin skin, or a six game losing skid, that quickly morphs back to false beauty and pennant contention. But then, at the end of the flick, the potion wears off and she rapidly ages, first into the old hag that she is, then into a slowly crumbling witch-shaped pile of dust, blowing away with a shriek trailing off into loneliness and October Tee-times, as the…
Um, sorry, where were we? Season going to hell in a jet-powered handcart? Right, thanks.
Another couple of games, and the 40-man roster may outnumber the fans in the stands. Blowers and Sims will need to give rally fries to one of the Tacoma callups.
So was the alleged official 26,000 attendance in evidence tonight? Or was it way less than that in the stands?
Just for fun. Asdrubal Cabrera’s line after last night. 27 games .316/367/490. I love the Mariners, but for 2007 I just kinda hate this team right now.
136: I can believe there were at least 25,000 in attendance, but many didn’t arrive until after the first inning. The crowd was not in to the game at all until the 7th inning — that’s when it at least sounded like 25,000. There were boos after the first grand slam, and applause when HoRam got the hook.
After the second salami, many thousand, in what seemed like perfect unison, stood up, turned away from the field, and exited. It was actually pretty amusing, and many of those leaving noticed this and had to laugh too.
And people blame the rain for Seattle’s high suicide rate.
and, from “No, Duh” magazine:
“The Mariners have no one to blame but themselves, losing 13 of 14 to all but destroy their playoff chances. If they had just played .500 in that stretch they’d still be in front in the wild-card race, instead of five games behind.”–John Heyman.
So… I guess I picked a hell of a time to take a two-week vacation.
The moral of the story is clear: all of us who said, early in the year, that this wasn’t a very good team were right. The team’s summer success was based on a whole lot of luck.
The whole team has now regressed to the mean.
I guess the Seahawks felt they also needed their version of Rally Fries. They picked up Charlie Frye today.
Random thoughts…
If McLaren NOW says the team is focusing on the Wild Card, what does that say about their collective sense of reality?
How much would people say was the collective result of having to reschedule all those early snow/rain days? Should MLB try to schedule all April games for southernmost, domed-roofed venues?
If the Ms won’t be able to field a team with the kind of power that Detroit, LAA and NYY possess, why not try NL ‘little ball’ (Geoff, don’t laugh too much…here I go again) and utilize the speed and youth of a younger group of guys?
I know in order to succeed, NL ‘little ball’ requires better starting pitchers. Other than Crown Prince (CPF) Felix and Batista (a good #3 or 4), who can the Ms go after? I still like one of the younger Oriole pitchers…how about trading for a prospect from the As? And is CPF not going to be a legitimate #1 until he gets to be about 25?
I
think Jose Guillen is gone next year.
I wonder if Jose Lopez is gone next year.
I think Ben B. is gone next year.
I HOPE #44 is gone next year. I think our best chance of catching Detroit ended with the Ms withdrawing RS from waivers. Can you imagine how many innings he could have broken up for the Tigers by striking out or popping out?
I can see a starting outfield of AJ, Ichiro and WB.
I’d pay to see the kids play in the last 20 games. I wouldn’t pay to see the same kind of performance exhibited over most of the last 2 weeks.
OK people, what do you think?
Bavasi explicitly stated they will not go with AJ, Ichiro, and Wlad in the outfield.
Re 144 and 145…that outfield would be AJ, Ichiro and WB – as in Willie Bloomquist
[144, dennismk] – I think with this management team, the “WB” in your post could be Willie Bloomquist, but not Wlad Balentien.
If McLaren NOW says the team is focusing on the Wild Card, what does that say about their collective sense of reality?
What should they be saying? That they’re focusing on getting their golf games in shape for the offseason?
If Wlad’s starting in the outfield, it’ll be 2009, not 2008.
(Still gets me that they develop so many RH hiters for a park that just kills RH power….)
It’s September. We have a few extra pitchers hanging around. Can we please stop this HoRam mess and go TLR-style, throwing relievers all game? Heck, I’d even get rid of the DH and let reliever #1 bat 8th if it meant an end to HoRam. Please, pretty please?
To comment on one of your random thoughts, dennismk, namely:
How much would people say was the collective result of having to reschedule all those early snow/rain days? Should MLB try to schedule all April games for southernmost, domed-roofed venues?
The Mariners toe the line with the commish’s office with regards to contract offers to draft picks, to name one obvious nod to “authority”, so what do they get in return for such passive obedience?
Not the most desirable draft picks, for one.
And certainly no consideration when the schedulers set up the following year’s game schedule. You’d think one of the most prominent items on Bud’s agenda every year would be
1. Make sure the Mariners, who fly more air miles than nearly any other team in either league, criss-cross the country as few times as possible and open April with as many games in their ballpark, a domed stadium, or in southerly venues as possible.
This season Milwaukee, for instance (whom I’m sure Bud still has a warm place in his heart for), opened in their own covered park for 6 games straight, then flew to south Florida.
But some bigger whiner of a team owner would B & M about favoritism, and Bud would cave, forgetting that it’s about levelling the playing field, not about giving the M’s something the other teams don’t have.
there was an article about it at the start of the year
Wow, that was an east-coast-centric piece of crap. He interviews guys from Oakland, Cleveland and Washington, but not Seattle?
Washington is all broken up about three West Coast swings? Boo frickin’ hoo.
The Indians get all the sympathy because they had to play three games up the road and lose three off days? How about all of that AND have to fly to frickin’ Cleveland three more times, along with those missing off days?
I believe Mr. Ichiro had words to say about that.