Game 156, Indians at Mariners

DMZ · September 25, 2007 at 6:26 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Felix Day! Woooo! The Indians are playing for the best record of any playoff team, and the Mariners are playing for the honor of.. uh… not being eliminated from the wild card race today? Veteran pride?

I don’t know, but check it out…

CF-L Ichiro
2B-R Lopez
LF-L Ibanez
DH-R Guillen
3B-R Beltre
1B-B Vidro
C-R Johjima
RF-R Jones (WOOO)
SS-R Bloomquist (IGNITION)


122 Responses to “Game 156, Indians at Mariners”

  1. cheapseats on September 26th, 2007 1:15 am

    Connie Mack: “It’s more profitable to me to have a team that is contention for most of the season but finishes about fourth because that sort of team draws well enough in the first part of the season to guarantee a profit for the year and you don’t have to give the players raises when they don’t win.”

  2. cheapseats on September 26th, 2007 1:19 am

    In terms of vets, you play ’em because you’re paying ’em… and maybe some of the deadwood can improve their stats enough, even if by some tiny whisker of a point, to be worth trading….

    Just a thought… (or hope)

  3. scott19 on September 26th, 2007 1:26 am

    101: Nowadays, ironically, Connie Mack would still be stuck eating salary on guys who turned out to be underachieing million-dollar crybabies

  4. scott19 on September 26th, 2007 1:32 am

    101: Since my PC unfortunately spazzed out on me just now, please allow me to finish my thought…

    Ironically, if Mack were around these days, he’d still be stuck eating millions in salary on underachieving crybabies — like every other GM in the majors has had to at one point or another.

    Interesting how much the game has changed over the years.

  5. cheapseats on September 26th, 2007 2:03 am

    104: Yeah, the irony isn’t lost on me. Mack didn’t have to deal with free agents or people like Scott Boras, either. On top of that, I can’t help feel that Mack would be astonished by the Seattle Paradox of the club’s having (owning?) fans who come in droves even in years where the season’s not only basically over by the third week in April, but the team itself is deeply inflicted with the Zombie-Man (better known as Ayala)Syndrome which makes the games themselves an excruciating experience. Go figure.

  6. walla walla on September 26th, 2007 2:06 am

    #96 I don’t think that was Sandy tonight on KJR with Nellie. Unfortunately, I think it was Dick Fain. I heard Nelson come up with some absolute nonsense tonight, about how we should be going after Eric Bedard or Scott Kazmir this winter. When Fain told him that the O’s and Rays aren’t going to give up those kind of guys, that those are #1 starters, the guys those teams are building around, Nellie showed his ignorance, saying something like “those teams can’t afford to pay those guys in a couple of years so they’d probably just take a couple of prospects.” Yeah, the big market Baltimore Orioles with all of Peter Angelos’ money can’t afford Eric Bedard. What an idiot Nelson is.

    Fain was no better in discussing what a great year Raul Ibanez has had. When a caller called in saying that Ibanez had had half his HRs in a two week stretch in August and said he liked his cleanup hitter to be a lot more consistent than that (and pointed out that Raul can’t hit lefties), Fain called the guy an idiot and bemoaned that “there are people out there that are that ignorant”…

  7. msb on September 26th, 2007 7:05 am

    irritating though it might be, Mac isn’t different than any other manager in MLB when it comes to the arcane rules of “respecting your opponent” and/or “respecting baseball”

  8. Colm on September 26th, 2007 8:05 am

    I don’t know about the other teams, but Mac’s job is to manage the Mariners, not to do what might please the Angels or Yankees.

    Plus, it’s not as if we’re suggesting running out a lineup of scrubs. We don’t want to see Nick Green and Rob Johnson, we’re talking about (hotshot?) prospects like Jones, Wlad and Clement. That’s no more disrespectful of baseball than the Yankees running out Joba Chamberlain in the chase, or the Mariner’s running out Sexson for 5 months of this year.

  9. msb on September 26th, 2007 8:11 am

    “The Mariners were forced to make some odd decisions in the extra innings because of a shortened bench. After the game, McLaren said that shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt could only pinch hit, not run, and that his elbow needs a “precautionary” MRI today. Wladimir Balentien has an injured right hand and Charlton Jimerson has an injured back.”

  10. Mike Honcho on September 26th, 2007 8:11 am

    Some real gems from Baker’s column today:

    “We’ll run the consistent lineup out there every day,” [McLaren] said.

    Sticking with Ibanez and Vidro paid off for McLaren, despite the defensive argument for Jones, with both contributing high second-half numbers. But standing by Sexson, while Ben Broussard rotted on the bench, was an organization-wide gamble that failed miserably.

    For his part, McLaren has strived to remain true to his core beliefs as the season drags mercifully to a close. No team in baseball history that was 20 games over .500 so late in the season ever lost as many games as quickly as this one did.

  11. Colm on September 26th, 2007 8:15 am

    Funny that. I would define, “paid off” as having made the playoffs.

  12. msb on September 26th, 2007 8:19 am

    in one of the better stories this season, vote JJ for DHL delivery man

  13. Mike Honcho on September 26th, 2007 8:19 am


    The kid gloves are off.

    After watching their youth movement crash and burn against a wall of reality last week, the Dodgers are quietly mulling a slight change of direction.

    The kids are no longer untouchable.

    The Dodgers wouldn’t offer specifics, but insiders say they have reached the conclusion that they can be contenders quicker and longer if one or two of these kids are traded for more developed players who could help them avoid a repeat of this September’s meltdown.

    Unbelievable if this is true. Are the Dodgers really hoping to find a couple of “consistent vets” for Kemp? WOW.

  14. DMZ on September 26th, 2007 8:24 am

    Plaschke’s track record is pretty bad.

  15. Mike Honcho on September 26th, 2007 8:25 am

    Plaschke is a nut, for sure. But it sure sounds like things are backwards down in Chavez Ravine…

  16. DMZ on September 26th, 2007 8:33 am

    Oh yeah, I’d agree entirely. But there’s a fair chance that he’s just exaggerating something a marketing intern told him.

  17. msb on September 26th, 2007 8:36 am

    “his unwillingness to use Class AAA call-up Adam Jones on a more regular basis.”

    apparently, this is AJ’s new name.

  18. Colm on September 26th, 2007 9:34 am

    What are the Dodgers hypothesizing as the cause of their meltdown?
    Come to that, what IS the cause of the Dodgers’ meltdown? It’s not Kemp, Loney or Martin. It’s not Jeff Kent either. Oh I see, lots of ABs for Juan Pierre, Rafael Furcal and Nomar; and quite a few to Mike Lieberthal, Olmaedo Saenz, Ramon Martinez, and (for Gawd’s sake) Shea Hillenbrand,

  19. joser on September 26th, 2007 10:15 am

    If that’s Jones’ new name, we should make a concerted attempt to change it, in the same way the blog created “King” Felix. Wasn’t he “Baseball America’s Highest-Rated Prospect Adam Jones”? He’s certainly “Best Unplayed Player Adam Jones” and “Criminally Under-employed Adam Jones”

    All the other teams with hot prospects brought them up and gave them regular playing time long ago — including the teams that are going to the postseason.

    I am now, BTW, officially more pissed off at McLaren now than I ever was at Hargrove or Melvin at the depths of their worst decisions. This guy doesn’t need another year. He needs to go.

  20. Colm on September 26th, 2007 10:18 am

    As a manager, he looks like a great bench coach.

  21. scott19 on September 26th, 2007 3:32 pm

    106: Yeah, unfortunately, I heard Dickie Fain dress down that caller and thought he was way out of line for doing so, too. Fain often shows his moronic side on the air…as for Nellie, while I do give him a point or two for: (a) telling (or, attempting to tell) Lincoln and Armstrong where to go back in ’03; & (b) saying what’s on his mind, whether I agree with it or not (unlike most of those yuts who do the post-game show over on KOMO — who are such FO yes-men it’s not funny), he’s clearly NOT the greatest analyst I’ve ever heard — and has come up with some real “gems” himself.

    Guess I was being more sarcastic than anything when I said that, since I’m so used to hearing nothing but total nonsense from most of these so-called radio “analysts” that I’m utterly shocked when they DO have a fleeting where they almost make sense. 😐

  22. scott19 on September 26th, 2007 3:40 pm

    *fleeting MOMENT

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