Rumblings from the Meetings

Dave · December 3, 2007 at 1:59 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Quick reactions to some of the rumors going around right now:

1. M’s interested in Edwin Jackson? Woohoo. We’ve been pushing for the M’s to pick up one of Tampa’s excess starters for months. Jackson’s a good arm and would fit in well as a buy low, high upside candidate. He’s a lot better than the mainstream opinion would have you believe.

2. M’s interested in dealing Richie Sexson? One year too late, but again, woohoo. This is the most obvious move of the winter – dump Sexson for whatever you can get, freeing up a position to get Ibanez out of the outfield, and sign a legitimate defensive LF (Geoff Jenkins!) to improve the defense.

3. M’s out of Johan Santana sweepstakes – not a big surprise, and something I’m totally fine with.

4. M’s have offered Hideki Kuroda either a 3 year, $30 million deal or a 4 year, $44 million deal, depending on who you believe. I’m still holding to the stance that we don’t have enough information to make any real informed opinions on either side, but man, $44 million for a guy with no outpitch?

So far, the rumors are at least mostly encouraging. But let’s see them actually do something productive before we get too excited.


111 Responses to “Rumblings from the Meetings”

  1. Matt from Tacoma on December 4th, 2007 12:57 am

    Who the hell came up with an Ibanez for Cliff Lee rumor? That’s absolutely ridiculous. The M’s wouldn’t trade Ibanez for a new stadium.

    OK, Dave, I’ll bite. Batista has been a five win player for pretty much every year since 2001. Jackson hasn’t yet done that in his career. Yeah, he’s got potentially electric stuff, but he’s also walking 3 guys for every 5 innings. Look at his PECOTA list, or the people Baseball Reference compares him to – not exactly a group of people who put it together in their age 24 seasons. Yeah, he could turn into an above average starter, but he could also be out of the league for good by June of next year. If you can get him for Sherrill, fine, but I wouldn’t give a blue chipper for him.

    Report is out that Guillen signed with the Royals for 3 years, $36M. I expect that both parties will regret this by the all-star break.

  2. Matt from Tacoma on December 4th, 2007 1:00 am

    #99 – I think if you suggested that the Orioles would part with Erik Bedard for Richie, Jerrod, and the worst 2/3 of the Rainiers outfield on KJR, they’d have to activate the seven second delay, because that’s profane. Really, you’d have to take on all the nuclear waste in Nevada to swallow the rest of those two contracts.

  3. milendriel on December 4th, 2007 1:15 am

    99- I know the Soriano for HoRam trade might have confused you, but baseball trades generally do not consist of one team foisting off their garbage onto another team in exchange for some of their best talent.

  4. Pete on December 4th, 2007 4:05 am

    #99 – “I would love if Bavasi thought like this: …”

    Dude, I would also love if I could spin poo into gold. But I’m no Rumpelstiltskin.

    ….was it poo, or straw?

  5. terry on December 4th, 2007 4:44 am

    #99: I too would love it if the rest of the league was less intelligent than the Ms FO….


  6. mrmitra on December 4th, 2007 5:25 am

    It was reported on that no one was interested in Sexson. Sadly I think he remains a Mariner unless we swap bad contracts with someone.

  7. dcmarinerfan on December 4th, 2007 5:50 am

    #99: If Bavasi can somehow work out trading a guy (Reed) twice, in addition to getting the Indians to give up a guy that Baseball-Reference compares to Duke Snider, then yea, I think I’d like how he thought too.

    But, there’s this little thing called reality in which both he and I live. We’ve got some extra space if you’d care to join us.

  8. Jar on December 4th, 2007 8:11 am

    The Dodgers, Mariners, and Mets have been pursuing Bedard the most aggressively. More meetings with the Mets should occur today. The Mariners could make an intriguing offer built around Adam Jones and Brandon Morrow.

  9. Jar on December 4th, 2007 8:13 am

    oh, sorry, that was from

  10. ooter on December 4th, 2007 5:11 pm

    “The Tigers have won the Miguel Cabrera sweepstakes. Detroit will get Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis from Florida for six players — Cameron Maybin, Andrew Miller, catcher Mike Rabelo and three minor league prospects.”


  11. Catherwood on December 5th, 2007 12:25 am

    That Tigers lineup is frightening. They’re going to be scoring LOTS of runs, so even if Dontrelle has an ERA hovering around 5, he’ll still win a lot of games by scores of 10-5 or so.

    And this points up where the Mariners have to go. The Tigers will win their division, the Sox and Yanks will win and get the WC, respectively, so our only way into the post season is to get by the Angels. We should be focusing on winning the West, and tooling up the team for that specific job.

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