And Tejada moves

DMZ · December 12, 2007 at 12:33 pm · Filed Under General baseball 

The Orioles get five players for the declining, expensive, and increasingly immobile shortstop. Wow.

Dave adds: The five players aren’t very good. A couple of back-end starters without much upside, a run of the mill corner OF, and a pair of fringe prospects. Of course, I don’t think much of Tejada either. Both teams still stink, but the Orioles save some money and don’t get demonstrably worse, so I guess they win the trade.

Also, Jeff Kent’s agent on Kent’s return:

“He is actively pursuing his customary and rigorous offseason conditioning and weightlifting program, and is very focused on helping his team win the World Series this year,” Klein wrote. “He asked me to wish all of you and your families a happy holiday season.”

Doing a lot of truck washing, then?

Comments

70 Responses to “And Tejada moves”

  1. terry on December 12th, 2007 12:49 pm

    What are the odds that the Astros non-tender Everett now?

    Last season Tejeda was roughly a 2 win over replacement player (valuing his defense at -10). This might seem like a blockbuster based upon name power, but I’m thinking it’s every bit the yawner that Dave implies…

  2. smb on December 12th, 2007 12:50 pm

    “He is actively pursuing his customary and rigorous offseason conditioning and weightlifting program…”

    …to properly prepare him for taking every third game off?

  3. Replacement level poster on December 12th, 2007 12:58 pm

    When I was in Houston this summer I went to a few Astros games. Whenever Luke Scott would come up they would put his picture on the Jumbotron with the caption Luke Scottwalker, play some Star Wars music, and play the clip of Obi Wan saying “Use the force Luke”.

    It was sad.

  4. Evan on December 12th, 2007 12:58 pm

    I couldn’t figure out why Tejeda got his own post.

    Oh, you meant Tejada. Well, that makes more sense.

    I’m always disappointed when the Orioles make a move that isn’t unbelievably dumb. They’ve been my least favourite team for as long as I can remember, and I don’t even know why. Maybe it’s the colour-scheme.

  5. bermanator on December 12th, 2007 1:14 pm

    The reaction in Baltimore so far can pretty much be summarized as “Tejada must be named in the Mitchell Report, so Baltimore took what it could get.”

    My own reaction is: “Does this mean Tejada takes over the ‘Five-For-One’ nickname from Von Hayes?” And also, “Does this move Baltimore past Houston on Dave’s Organizational Rankings chart?”

  6. Tek Jansen on December 12th, 2007 1:14 pm

    What I take away from this as an M’s fan is that Angelos is letting his GM make moves, the GM desires to rebuild the O’s and their farm system, and this could lead to a Bedard trade to the M’s or someone else.

    Furthermore, the O’s might want to package aging, expensive, and/or useful veterans with Bedard to clean house and get a more attractive package back in return.

  7. joser on December 12th, 2007 1:42 pm

    Yeah, to echo Tek: I see this as more interesting in terms of what it might signal about Baltimore’s philosophy going forward. Perhaps Angelos has finally realized what a coffin corner he’s in between the big money teams at the top of the division and the inceasingly big-talent Rays below him. I expect the Jays aren’t feeling especially comfortable this offseason, either, but they’re not in quite so dire a situation (plus the stronger Canadian dollar has to make them feel a little better).

    Baltimore looks to be in the basement of the AL East in ’08 no matter what, so it’s best to acknowledge that fact asap and get started with the rebuild. Of course, if Angelos plays true to form, as soon as they start showing some life again he’ll start meddling to get players he loves all out of proportion to their abilities.

  8. Brooklyn on December 12th, 2007 2:07 pm

    Sorry to hear that Tejada’s not going to become the Angels’ problem. From what I had read it had sounded like they were interested in him as a Plan B after they lost out on Cabrera.

  9. Carson on December 12th, 2007 2:39 pm

    And…

    SAN FRANCISCO — Aaron Rowand agreed to a five-year contract with the San Francisco Giants on Wednesday, giving the club the starting center fielder it sought this winter.

  10. hub on December 12th, 2007 2:50 pm

    Is Adam Everett a ‘USSMariner-Approved’ acquisition? If so, as a starter or as a backup?

  11. skyking162 on December 12th, 2007 3:26 pm

    #1 – Just curious, where do you see Tejada as a -10 run SS? Zone ratings using STATS and BIS data put him around +5 in both systems. He’s gone -8, +7, -4, -3, 0 the past five years in UZR (first two months of ’07 only).

    If Tejada is -10, Adam Everett’s a better player overall. If Tejada is more like +5, slight edge to Tejada — for a slightly larger price tag, of course ($25 million and five players).

    —-

    Anyone else amused that Luke Scott keeps being referred to as “Jay Payton’s platoon mate”? I mean, Payton’s the righty, getting the short end of the stick. And Scott can actually take a walk and hit for power. Sure, he’s old, but another year or two of a .850 OPS is pretty good — that’s what Tejada provides.

  12. skyking162 on December 12th, 2007 3:33 pm

    hub/10 – Everett is awesome defensively. Here are his UZR runs from ’04 to ’07 per 150 games: +28, +31, +51, +37. 2006 was sick. Even though Everett has zero offensive value, 50 runs over replacement overall is like having the 2007 version of Miguel Cabrera or Ryan Howard.

  13. Chris Miller on December 12th, 2007 3:40 pm

    Everett is awesome. If we were ever tempted to trade Lopez, I could see trying to pick him up and shifting Yuni to 2nd.

  14. JSully on December 12th, 2007 3:45 pm

    And to think that Everett has *zero* Gold Gloves while Cap’n Jetes has two. Unreal.

  15. hub on December 12th, 2007 3:54 pm

    How much does Everett’s lack of hitting offset his exceptional defense?

  16. msb on December 12th, 2007 4:01 pm

    “Dec. 12, 2007. Last date to tender contracts.”

    what time do the M’s have to get their tenders in by?

  17. Jeff Nye on December 12th, 2007 4:09 pm

    Is Adam Everett a ‘USSMariner-Approved’ acquisition? If so, as a starter or as a backup?

    I don’t know about USS Mariner approved…

    But speaking solely for myself, I think it’s still way too early to give up on Jose Lopez.

    That being said, if the M’s disagree about that, they could do a LOT worse than picking up Adam Everett.

  18. Mat on December 12th, 2007 5:05 pm

    How much does Everett’s lack of hitting offset his exceptional defense?

    I think that’s kind of a tricky question to answer. I mean, you can look at him as a +20 defender and a -5 hitter or something like that, but you can do things to leverage the value of a player like that.

    Even adjusting for era and league, Mark Belanger was a worse hitter than Everett. But, Earl Weaver liked to have Belanger around for his glove at SS and buried him at the end of the lineup. Belanger would start, and if he came up to bat in an important spot late in the game Weaver would pinch hit for him. That way, you get the defense in the field for the vast majority of the game, and you maximize the leverage of the pinch hitting appearances.

    Also, the value of an elite defensive SS depends on how many GB pitchers you have on the staff. (Sort of the same way that Ichiro’s impact on the season would be smaller if you made him hit 9th in the order instead of 1st.)

  19. Jack Howland on December 12th, 2007 5:25 pm

    Wouldn’t the Astros just move Tejada to third and leave Everett where he’s at?

  20. Mr. Egaas on December 12th, 2007 5:32 pm

    It’s not like Tejada would make a special 3rd basemen, offensively or defensively.

  21. coffee on December 12th, 2007 5:39 pm

    In the ESPN article, Houston GM Ed Wade said that Adam Everett would be an unrestricted free agent by Thursday. I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a Seattle uniform but there really isn’t a place for him. He’s not worth having around as a defensive replacement and his hitting isn’t anything to write home about. Though you could say the same thing about Willie Bloomquist, he at least can play multiple positions.

  22. Jeff Nye on December 12th, 2007 5:48 pm

    Adam Everett is one of the best defensive players in baseball.

    Willie Bloomquist is a AAA-level player that the organization has a silly level of attachment to.

    Adam Everett’s glove is worth finding a place for him to play every day; Bloomquist belongs on the bench if he’s in the majors at all.

  23. kkjs on December 12th, 2007 5:51 pm

    “what time do the M’s have to get their tenders in by?”

    Midnight eastern time.

  24. _David_ on December 12th, 2007 6:06 pm

    I guess they’ll have to replace Scott. I guess we’ll have to send them Wlad for Everett and Wandy Rodriguez and move Yuni to 2nd :)

  25. Evan on December 12th, 2007 6:06 pm

    I certainly approve of acquiring Adam Everett. Lopez and Betancourt both have trade value.

  26. Mat on December 12th, 2007 6:27 pm

    Wouldn’t the Astros just move Tejada to third and leave Everett where he’s at?

    That’s what I would do. NL 3B hit .280/.348/.456 last year. I would think that Tejada could beat that next year, and maybe be an average defender at third. Then when you pinch-hit for Everett, you could either use the utility infielder at SS or move Tejada over to SS and put someone in at 3B.

    I guess I’d rather do that than put up with Wigginton’s iron glove and unimpressive bat at 3B, anyway.

  27. HamNasty on December 12th, 2007 6:37 pm

    If the Adam Everett news about FA is true we need to fine a look a like and hid the real Bill Bavasi in a closet somewhere till we can sign him. No way Bavasi sees the worth in a player like Everett. He isn’t old, never had a flashy BA or gold glove. I hate when good players become free agents because there is little chance they end up in a Mariner uniform.

  28. Sports on a Schtick on December 12th, 2007 7:06 pm

    This move would make some sense if the Astros could actually contend in the crappy NL Central.

  29. Thom Jimsen on December 12th, 2007 7:44 pm

    I hope there’ll be a thread on non-tendered free agents up soon … there’s some mildly interesting low-level names popping up on the wire: Emil Brown, Chad Durbin, Dallas McPherson. Lots more to come tonight.

  30. jlc on December 12th, 2007 7:47 pm

    Do we just wait until 9 pm and see if Horam’s name is on a list? Or do the Mariners make an announcement?

  31. Jeff Nye on December 12th, 2007 7:56 pm

    I imagine that Dave/DMZ/et al will start a new post for the Mitchell Report news when there’s time and enough information to do so.

    Since the topic has the potential to be so volatile, I’d ask everyone’s patience until that happens.

  32. Thom Jimsen on December 12th, 2007 8:08 pm

    And the thread should be called: “Non-Tender Is The Night” … or “Try A Little Non-Tenderness” ….

  33. Jeff Nye on December 12th, 2007 8:15 pm

    I sortof like “For Whom The Barbell Tolls”.

  34. Mr. Egaas on December 12th, 2007 8:18 pm

    When do the M’s announce the Weaver, Broussard and Ramirez decisions?

  35. joser on December 12th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Illegal Tender?
    Love me Non-Tender?
    Hey! Bar(non)Tender! (Actually, I guess they will be BarredTender)

  36. hub on December 12th, 2007 8:26 pm

    Mark Prior non-tendered.

  37. HamNasty on December 12th, 2007 8:42 pm

    Rowand to the Giants.

    I like that joser, Barred Tender!

  38. msb on December 12th, 2007 9:19 pm

    “Women prefer men who have something tender about them — especially the legal kind.”

  39. Mr. Egaas on December 12th, 2007 9:24 pm

    You could build a pretty decent 4th place team with all of the non-tenders today.

  40. Thom Jimsen on December 12th, 2007 9:53 pm

    I’ll bet the M’s go after “local boy” Mark Hendrickson, the soggiest-armed lefty in baseball.

  41. Typical Idiot Fan on December 12th, 2007 10:01 pm

    “Non Tendered Meat Back On The Market”. Nah, that’s just wrong.

  42. msb on December 12th, 2007 10:02 pm

    only ’cause Halama is with the Long Island Ducks

  43. shemberry on December 12th, 2007 10:30 pm

    mlb.com is showing that the M’s non-tendered Parrish and no one else. So, Broussard and HoRam stay?

  44. CrepuscularPoet on December 12th, 2007 10:31 pm
  45. shemberry on December 12th, 2007 10:32 pm

    sent Broussard to Texas for a minor league 3B

  46. jlc on December 12th, 2007 10:39 pm

    It never seriously occurred to me that HoRam would be back. If this is Mel S’s first contribution to the M’s, he’s got a lot to show me before I can appreciate him.

  47. Mr. Egaas on December 12th, 2007 10:43 pm

    Welp, here’s to another year of Sexson, Ho-Ram, and a 4 year, 50 million dollar offer to Carlos Silva.

    Who needs a drink?

  48. CrepuscularPoet on December 12th, 2007 10:43 pm

    Fearless prediction:
    Soriano for Ramirez goes down as a steal when HoRam turns into a 5 time Cy Young winner.

    *sigh* Is that pointless pessimism even though I used sarcasm? ;)

  49. firova2 on December 12th, 2007 10:44 pm

    Miguel Olivo is available. Any takers? Er. . .

  50. I won the meat jackpot!!!!1 on December 12th, 2007 10:48 pm

    Who is Tug Hulett? (Our haul for Ben.)

  51. msb on December 12th, 2007 10:54 pm

    It never seriously occurred to me that HoRam would be back. If this is Mel S’s first contribution to the M’s, he’s got a lot to show me before I can appreciate him.

    what?! you don’t believe that Mel will magically fix him?

  52. msb on December 12th, 2007 10:58 pm

    “Hulett, who often goes by Tug, hit .279/.350/.406 for Triple-A Oklahoma last season. That he’s a left-handed hitter with some ability at multiple infield positions has kept him on the very edge of prospectdom, but he’s not a good bet to put together a career as a utilityman.”

    so does this mean he was the Rangers’ Willie F. Bloomquist?

  53. jlc on December 12th, 2007 11:01 pm

    52- Then how will we decide between them???

  54. Steve Nelson on December 12th, 2007 11:02 pm

    #52: so does this mean he was the Rangers’ Willie F. Bloomquist?

    Not quite. If he breaks out, Willie Bloomquist is his upside.

  55. CrepuscularPoet on December 12th, 2007 11:06 pm

    Might as well try to sign Prior to a 1yr deal

  56. Thom Jimsen on December 12th, 2007 11:14 pm

    A lot of teams are going to want Prior. I wouldn’t assume he’s there for the Mariner taking.

  57. CrepuscularPoet on December 12th, 2007 11:15 pm

    Well if we thought that way we would never sign anyone.

  58. joser on December 12th, 2007 11:23 pm

    Well if we thought that way we would never sign anyone.

    Were you here in the 80s?

  59. CrepuscularPoet on December 12th, 2007 11:36 pm

    Yeah. All Im saying is we should offer one. Maybe I am foggy on how free agency works…generally you cant sign people if you dont first make them an offer right? I think a player and his agent field offers from the league, then depending on finances, personal preference, etc THEY decide to pick or turn down an offer. Therefore, like I said, *TRY* to sign. If he turns it down, we are in the exact same place as we are now. WHy wouldnt you assume we have a chance? Out of the teams in DIRE need of SP, we do have one of the highest payrolls…

  60. ChrisK on December 12th, 2007 11:40 pm

    “Who is Tug Hulett?”

    Tug Hulett = Shin Soo Choo + Asdrubal Cabrera

  61. thefin190 on December 12th, 2007 11:59 pm

    “Tug Hulett = Shin Soo Choo + Asdrubal Cabrera”

    Soooo, does that mean he is good, or not? We all know how Asdrubal is doing now, but I haven’t heard of Shin Soo Choo this year. Did he turn out a bust?

  62. abender20 on December 13th, 2007 12:07 am

    I would love to see Prior in an M’s uniform as long as it isn’t a huge investment. If he can get healthy… yadayada.

    Also – I heard on the radio that Broussard is moving to Texas but I haven’t been able to track down the story. Que paso?

  63. abender20 on December 13th, 2007 12:11 am

    Nevermind. Yahoo! sports just posted.

    If Kuroda signs with the M’s, are there any other moves to add pitching or does the cost of adding him preclude that?

  64. jlc on December 13th, 2007 12:12 am

    See 52 and 54 for the guy we got for Ben.

  65. _David_ on December 13th, 2007 12:37 am

    In Tejada’s defense, last year was his only decline-type year. He’s got a 114 career OPS+ and put up years of 131, 128 and 126 before his 109 last year. He also missed 29 games due to injury after missing a total of 5 in the previous 8 years.

  66. Evan on December 13th, 2007 1:36 am

    Not quite. If he breaks out, Willie Bloomquist is his upside.

    So right now he’s a weak-hitting, left-handed Willie Bloomquist.

    Nice. We could platoon our 25th roster spot. Oh, wait…

  67. terry on December 13th, 2007 5:45 am

    So does the addition of Tug Hulett mean there is no chance the Ms will extend Beltre as well as signaling the move of Triunfel to the outfield?

  68. coffee on December 13th, 2007 6:47 am

    I saw Tug Hulett play in OKC and he was pretty good. Nothing more than a backup or injury replacement at the ML level though, in my opinion. I would say he’s better than Bloomquist, but that’s not saying much.

    Eckstein close to signing with Toronto, pushing MacDonald to the bench. There’s another slick-fielding SS being pushed aside for offense.

    That shows what type of value a guy like Everett has with the majority of teams in the leauge. My guess is Everett to Minnesota as they have shown that they value defense over offense, for the most part. Replacing Bartlett with Everett makes a lot of sense.

  69. joser on December 13th, 2007 11:22 am

    So does the addition of Tug Hulett mean there is no chance the Ms will extend Beltre as well as signaling the move of Triunfel to the outfield?

    That’s reading way too much into this. Essentially, instead of outright releasing Broussard, they got a token return in exchange for trading him to a division rival so that he could be close to his home. If Tug was anything of value, the Rangers wouldn’t have given him up. Not for Broussard, and not to the M’s. This has zero impact on whatever future plans they might have for Beltre or Triunfel.

  70. scott19 on December 14th, 2007 1:57 am

    40: Wouldn’t our own beloved HoRam make a case for THAT dubious title?

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