Silva signing announcement later this week

DMZ · December 19, 2007 at 1:17 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

The PI’s reporting “the Mariners could announce they’re signing him as early as Thursday.”

4y, $44m, as previously rumored.


85 Responses to “Silva signing announcement later this week”

  1. MarinerDan on December 19th, 2007 6:01 pm

    I have just one question. Does Washburn hold any trade value (more likely in the National League) and is there a possibility that we could make a move?

    Trade value? Probably very little. But the bigger question is why Bavasi would ever trade Washburn.

    He just spent weeks scrambling to find an (assumed) upgrade to the rotation. He has said he needs two upgrades. So, I’m not sure why he would deal Washburn, unless he got someone back that was at least as good.

    Bavasi is in an almost psychotic “must acquire pitching” mode — trading Washburn seems about the least likely move he could make.

  2. cebo04 on December 19th, 2007 6:07 pm

    Very true. Perhaps it’s just wishful thinking.

  3. kenshabby on December 19th, 2007 6:20 pm

    And the 2008 starting rotation shall be named thusly:

    King Felix and the Four Punching Bags.

  4. Alaskan on December 19th, 2007 6:22 pm

    I like Jim Street’s comment at, about now that we have Silva and Dickey, we could be done looking for pitchers. Ah, Jim, if only that were true, I think I would actually be happy. I wouldn’t be too excited about ’08, but at least I would still be looking forward to ’09.

  5. Alaskan on December 19th, 2007 6:25 pm

    I should include the link and quote:

    General manager Bill Bavasi’s goal going into the offseason was to add to two starting pitchers. Adding Silva to the mix would accomplish that mission as Seattle selected knuckleball specialist R.A. Dickey in the Rule 5 Draft during the Winter Meetings.
    With Silva aboard, it might enable the Mariners to back off on their efforts to acquire left-hander Erik Bedard from the Orioles and thereby allow Seattle to keep right fielder Adam Jones, among others, which is what it would take to acquire the hard-throwing lefty.

  6. HamNasty on December 19th, 2007 6:29 pm

    53- It is already better then last year unless we think Jeff Weaver needs to get shellacked a few more times. And I don’t see HoRam keeping a SP job for more then 5 starts if RRS, Ryan F. or any of the young guys even resembles a starting pitcher. But McLaren/Bavasi is making those decisions so all logic just got thrown out the window.

  7. joser on December 19th, 2007 6:32 pm

    HoRam in Alaska somewhere…

    –Hey, we don’t want him.

    The bears aren’t picky.

  8. trentdf on December 19th, 2007 6:47 pm

    Is anyone reporting the Mariners have a serious bead on acquiring Bedard and what does his future look like?

  9. Kingfelix34 on December 19th, 2007 7:25 pm

    # 47

    Digger Phelps is currently dating one of my best friends mother. Weird story but it’s true.

    I would’ve enjoyed a trade for Edwin Jackson a lot more then this….even if it meant no more Wladimir Balentien (and whatever other prospect not named Jones, Morrow, or Clement they wanted.) At least Jackson would’ve been under team control and cheap for a few more years. Oh, and he has a heck of a more lively arm and is going to only be 25 next season.

    I just hope I don’t wake up in the morning one day and see the following headline “Mariners acquire Lefty Ace Bedard from Orioles……..Seattle sends OF Adam Jones, RHP Brandon Morrow, and 3B Carlos Triunfel.” I’d cry if that happens and to be honest Bavasi could be that stupid….well probably not THAT dumb.

  10. Dave in Palo Alto on December 19th, 2007 7:41 pm

    If signing Silva means Jones stays home, I can live with it. But damn, I wish Mitchell would do an investigation into unlawful use of stupid pills in certain front offices . . .

  11. gwangung on December 19th, 2007 7:43 pm

    Hmph. I wouldn’t mind too much if they still could pull a trade for Jackson or another Tampa arm–still possible, actually.

    Don’t see ANY major move I like….

  12. huhwhat on December 19th, 2007 8:18 pm

    So Silva’s signings pretty much official now I guess, the Times and the site both report it has being done pretty much.

    I honestly don’t really care for some reason.

  13. Mustard on December 19th, 2007 8:27 pm

    WOW, way to make a splash this offseason. If the Mariners intent is to drive fans away, then its the best baseball related decision they have made in years. I can’t believe I have the “opportunity” to watch Silva pitch in an M’s uniform.

  14. heyoka on December 19th, 2007 10:00 pm

    Don’t the Mariners need a strong infield defense to make Silva seem a good pitcher?

    Are Lopez and Sexson all that bad? I’m not sure how they compare with the rest of the league….

  15. TAYTAY20 on December 19th, 2007 11:09 pm

    My take is that Silva has got to be twice as good as Weaver was. He’s kind of like Batista, who has actually done pretty well with us, in that they both get groundball outs. If Silva does what Batista did last year (wiggling his way out of jams), but with less walks, I bet he could win 14-15 games. He’s certainly no Felix, though.

    By the way, USSM staff, do you think Felix will get a relatively big contract when his is up, with other teams trying to offer big money? Could he be pryed away from us by big offers from the Sox or the Yankees?

  16. Mike G. on December 19th, 2007 11:33 pm

    Ho-Ram, though not allowed to pitch in the Alaska Baseball League, would probably lose his starting job to Sean Timmons.

  17. congreve on December 20th, 2007 12:25 am

    In all of the Silva articles, I’m still seeing the rumors persist that the Mariners are a top contender in trade discussions for Bedard. Assuming the trade does happen (and Jones, Morrow depart), what’s the outfield solution? I keeping seeking Geoff Jenkins come up here (in USS Mariner). He’s a left-handed hitter, sure, and his OBP is decent, but he’s past prime, is he not?

    What about Corey Patterson? Looking at the remaining free agent OF, he’s looking like the one name I wouldn’t mind seeing in a Mariners uniform, should Jones depart. He’s young (under 30), still stealing a ton of bases, and his SO numbers have come down substantially. And he’s a left-handed hitter, too. Power numbers are lower than Jenkins’, sure, but am I missing something else here (honest question; not rhetorical)? I don’t see any impending deals form him on the MLB free agent tracker.

  18. congreve on December 20th, 2007 12:43 am

    The Seattle Times article on the Silva signing suggests (in a quote from McLaren) that the Bedard discussions are still real:

    “The Mariners are still working on a deal to land Baltimore Orioles starter Erik Bedard after being snubbed in their initial attempts to trade for Johan Santana of the Minnesota Twins.

    “We’re in on both lefties,” McLaren said of Bedard and Santana. “We’re still talking to Minnesota.” “

  19. Sports on a Schtick on December 20th, 2007 12:44 am

    I think Lopez is a good glove at second. Nothing great but acceptable. Using either defensive metrics or just by watching games you can tell Sexson is atrocious at first.

  20. thefin190 on December 20th, 2007 1:09 am

    I am really dissapointed with Bill Bavasi’s stupidity here. One thing I will admit though, if this satisfies Bavasi’s raging clue for starting pitching, then I will be happy. I would much rather see this headline than the aquiring Bedard for the whole farm system headline. All I want is AJ to stay on the Mariners roster until Spring training, then I think he’ll be safe for the season, and prove how bomb he is, then even the M’s FO wouldn’t be dumb enough to trade him. Plus they don’t have much depth in the outfield anyway.

  21. thewyrm on December 20th, 2007 3:15 am

    29. HoRam in Alaska somewhere…

    Why do we gotta take him? Send him to Canada or something.

  22. terry on December 20th, 2007 4:59 am


    I had almost forgotten McLaren.

  23. cebo04 on December 20th, 2007 7:02 am

    I’m reading that Jenkins signed for 2 years $13 million with the Phils. That seems even below what Dave had speculated. Did our FO even consider this option? Ahhh the frustration!

  24. drake33 on December 20th, 2007 8:14 am

    Well, to put a small ray of sunshine here. Silva is pretty buddy-buddy with Santana. AND from what I’ve seen online, the M’s might not be completely out of the Santana deal.

    Maybe. Just Maybe. This is a precursor to a Santana deal. [finishes drink]

  25. msb on December 20th, 2007 9:21 am


    playing closer to home for a sure-fire post-season giant or
    hang around the Seattle clubhouse with Carlos…..

  26. Bearman on December 20th, 2007 9:28 am

    This is a way smarter move than I expected Bavasi to make when Kuroda opted for the Dodgers.
    I had advocated if the Kuroda deal fell through that the M’s should take the offer they had for him and sweeten then in turn offer it to Silva.

    It appears much to my surprise Bavasi must have been thinking along the same lines or he’s taken to reading blogs and forums.

    Now if he can just change gears and forget the Bedard deal.
    Instead approach the Rays about one of the young MLB ready surplus arms and save the prospects for the roster.

    Another tack he can take is a short term incentive laden contract(1 or 2 yrs only) for one of the following:
    Bartolo Colon
    Mark Prior
    Kris Benson
    til either ’09 or ’10 when the FA/trade pitching market is more flexiable or some of the inhouse starters are ready like Tillman,Morrow,even Augmont.

  27. PositivePaul on December 20th, 2007 11:45 am

    So, Carlos Silva for 4/44 or Dontrelle Willis for 3/29?

    Maybe the Tigers aren’t so smart

  28. Bearman on December 20th, 2007 1:44 pm

    #77: Frankly there is a difference in the deals bettween the two pitchers.
    Silva is new contract and a FA signing while Willis is a extension deal to avoid his going FA so Detriot gets its value out of the trade.

    I feel I must add that Willis is unknown quality againist AL hitting on a season long every 5th day start.This is not true of Silva because of his tenure with Minnesota.
    With the wear and tear he underwent in Miami with little or no DL time makes me suspect he’s an injury waiting to happen.

  29. lokiforever on December 20th, 2007 2:15 pm

    Also the tigers traded prospects and Andrew Miller for Willis and Cabrera – the extension isn’t really the same as a free agent signing.

  30. AuburnM on December 20th, 2007 2:19 pm

    I know I am going to get beat up for this…

    Bavasi just improved our rotation. Did he pay too much to do so? I don’t care. As long as they put a better product on the field, why should I care what they spend?

    Trade for Bedard and all of a sudden we have a very good starting rotation, which is the key to winning.

    Let yourselves be happy!

  31. BP on December 20th, 2007 2:23 pm

    It’s official. 4 years, $48M. I hate the Mariners.

  32. BP on December 20th, 2007 2:23 pm
  33. AuburnM on December 20th, 2007 2:28 pm

    If we get Bedard, I love this deal. Two proven, 28 year old starters added to the rotation? What’s not to like?

    If we don’t add Bedard, this is decent deal, but not nearly enough to make us competitive with LAA.

  34. Jeff Nye on December 20th, 2007 2:41 pm

    I know I am going to get beat up for this…

    Bavasi just improved our rotation. Did he pay too much to do so? I don’t care. As long as they put a better product on the field, why should I care what they spend?

    Trade for Bedard and all of a sudden we have a very good starting rotation, which is the key to winning.

    Let yourselves be happy!

    The Silva signing is money poorly spent. If you are a fan of any team other than the Yankees or Red Sox, the efficiency of how that team spends its money should be of significant concern to you, because payroll limitations WILL be used as a reason that future moves cannot be made to improve the team.

  35. Dayve on December 20th, 2007 8:05 pm

    When have the M’s publicly said recently they didn’t have the money to offer a FA player? I don’t think the issue is how much money they spend, but who they have chosen to spend the money on. The money seems to be there when they make deals. We can all agree they tend to overpay for nearly everyone.

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