Seventeen days without a bad move

DMZ · January 7, 2008 at 1:45 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Good job team! Let’s see how long we can keep this string up!

I was thinking about putting a little counter widget on the sidebar with a nice auto-generated number we could reset, but I discovered that it would require work, so I didn’t.


42 Responses to “Seventeen days without a bad move”

  1. Grizz on January 7th, 2008 2:06 pm

    Well, we know it will end in 45 days or less when Horacio Ramirez gets a new contract either through an agreement or an arbitration award.

  2. Mr. Egaas on January 7th, 2008 2:08 pm

    I still think Bavasi has a good move in him… let’s hope it’s true that the Edwin Jackson rumors ‘just won’t die’.

  3. Sports on a Schtick on January 7th, 2008 2:10 pm

    Reminds me of the gag in The Simpsons when Homer visits Lurleen at the Royal King Trailer Park.

    The first time Homer arrives the sign reads: 14 Days Without a Tornado. The next time it says 2 Days.

    Perhaps go with the
    Doomsday Clock?

  4. thefin190 on January 7th, 2008 2:13 pm

    Wouldn’t it be ironic too if we woke up the next morning to find that Adam Jones, Brandon Morrow, Jeff Clement, and Carlos Triunfels are traded for Eric Bedard or Jason Bay/Ian Snell.

  5. Gregor on January 7th, 2008 2:30 pm

    Well, we know it will end in 45 days or less when Horacio Ramirez gets a new contract

    The bad move regarding Ramirez was already made when they offered him arbitration (which was more than 17 days ago), so unless they negotiate a contract that pays him more than one could have reasonably expected for him to get through arbitration, I don’t think that should count.

  6. shortbus on January 7th, 2008 2:36 pm

    Now that the O’s have a new CF we can hopefully count on Jones not going to Baltimore in any Bedard deal.

  7. DMZ on January 7th, 2008 2:43 pm

    That wouldn’t be ironic at all.

  8. PositivePaul on January 7th, 2008 2:45 pm

    It can’t be THAT hard to put this gif on the bottom of your page template. Or, if that one has too many digits, there’s always this one…

    Do non-moves, like say, not giving George Sherrill the Bavasi arb treatment count? If so, then that hasn’t happened in the last 17 days — and I consider that a BAD thing…

  9. argh on January 7th, 2008 2:54 pm

    This off season has been kind of like sitting on death row — endless hours of horrifying boredom accompanied by the grim knowledge that things ultimately will get very exciting. Just not in a good way.

  10. Mr. Egaas on January 7th, 2008 2:55 pm

    Yeah… those are just like the things that Alanis Morissette song… they aren’t ironic, they just really really suck.

  11. msb on January 7th, 2008 3:23 pm


    Now that the O’s have a new CF we can hopefully count on Jones not going to Baltimore in any Bedard deal.

    Roch Kubatko in the Sun: “the Orioles acquired Chris Roberson from the Phillies for cash considerations … So what does this mean for the Orioles? Roberson could be a fourth or fifth outfielder, especially if Jay Payton is traded. The Orioles need a center fielder, and Roberson made most of his starts in center with Ottawa. But he’s only played two games there in the majors, compared to 37 in right and 31 in left.”

  12. cpbuddha on January 7th, 2008 3:58 pm

    A potentially bad omen: John McLaren says he’s relying on Sexson as “a real key to our offense going forward.”

    I wish I could believe that this talk of minor league at-bats referred to Sexson being sent to Tacoma. Instead, I think it means that Sexson will be given extra playing time during spring training.

  13. Eleven11 on January 7th, 2008 3:59 pm

    Like watching my dog eat grass. I know that she is going to throw up, just not when…

  14. Mike G. on January 7th, 2008 4:06 pm

    Bavasi could have made this move so that’s good news too. Ganbatte Atchison-san!

  15. wrob4343 on January 7th, 2008 4:07 pm

    You know i tell other people about this site and why its so good. this post is precisely why i think this site is so great. you grab the inner mariners fan in all of us that is optimistic but knows all that nintendo money will be spent on crap. but look at it this way. nintendo really struck it big with the wii and i know in my circle everybody looked at it like it was crazy so maybe management is building a Wii franchise….

  16. msb on January 7th, 2008 4:20 pm

    by the way, speaking of potential moves by the Mariner– when estimating how long the M’s might extend Ibanez, should we have factored in his potential longevity?

    apparently he has a 101 year-old gramma.

  17. Celadus on January 7th, 2008 6:01 pm

    Re: ironic.

    My experience is that the commonest misuse of the term by sports writers & sports announcers is as a synonym for coincidental (e.g., the opposing quarterbacks, ironically, are from the same town).

  18. Mike G. on January 7th, 2008 7:32 pm

    What’s fantastic about this “streak” is we owe it all to Baltimore. Bavasi was willing to just about trade the farm, minus Morrow, for Bedard.

    Andy McPhail is the MVP of the streak.

  19. argh on January 7th, 2008 8:50 pm

    Many times the conjoining of the word ‘sports’ with that of ‘writer’ results in (usually unintended) irony. Present company definitely excluded.

  20. Librocrat on January 7th, 2008 10:07 pm

    18. Read Churchill’s latest post, and get ready to start rooting for the Rays. DMZ, you don’t talk to the pitcher about the no hitter going into the 8th inning!

  21. ArtfulDodger on January 7th, 2008 10:20 pm

    It could be back on. Not sure if this indictes new action or not, but defintely indicates, like monty python and the holy grail, ‘bavasi ain’t dead yet…’

  22. Greg08 on January 7th, 2008 10:23 pm

    17 days?’d be wise for everyone to check out Prospect Insider.

  23. Wishhiker on January 7th, 2008 10:28 pm

    Just because something gets jinxed doesn’t make it ironic…

  24. shemberry on January 7th, 2008 10:30 pm


    This is all your fault. How on earth could you post 17 days without a bad move and not expect things to change? This is awful!

  25. Tom on January 7th, 2008 10:34 pm

    Please god, don’t let this happen.

  26. marinerfaninvenice on January 7th, 2008 10:58 pm

    Bedard as a Mariner would be well worth Jones + Clement. Jones is a stud and plays with a lot of energy but is still unproven, and Clement reeks of someone with a bat who will always be injured — reminds me of Todd Greene. Bedard had a miniscule ERA and 211 Ks pitching in the AL East. He would shred the AL West. Plus he’d take considerable pressure off of Felix and would slot our other pitchers more appropriately as back-of-rotation guys (not #2’s and 3’s).

    Honestly I doubt that Jones + Clement could get the deal done, and even if it were on the table I’m sure that Bavasi would find a way to trade additional prospects in return for an injured over-the-hill veteran (who’s ready for Kevin Millar?).

  27. Walrus on January 7th, 2008 11:04 pm

    Oh, look on the bright side guys…I’m sure we will get Jay Payton back when we include a few million in the deal..

  28. Walrus on January 7th, 2008 11:11 pm

    Seriously, now…



  29. David on January 7th, 2008 11:12 pm

    Sigh. Somewhere there’s a man in a red pickup truck listening to Alabama and laughing hysterically.

  30. Jeff Nye on January 7th, 2008 11:28 pm

    Thanks to USS Mariner…

    I now cringe whenever I see the letters E, R, and A anywhere within close proximity of each other.

  31. imfinkspa on January 7th, 2008 11:57 pm

    From Rotoworld:

    “’s Ken Rosenthal says there are indications the Orioles and Mariners are closer to terms on an Erik Bedard deal.

    Rosenthal believes the Mariners are willing to give up Adam Jones, Jeff Clement and third baseman Marquis Tuiasosopo for Bedard. The Orioles, though, could prefer Tony Butler, Chris Tillman or Carlos Triunfel as the third player. The two pitchers might be put on the table, but we doubt the Mariners would part with Triunfel, probably not even if Clement were taken out of the deal. Clement would likely move to first base if sent to Baltimore. Some believe it’s where he belongs anyway.”

    I don’t know much about Tillman and Butler, a little more about Tillman. Would either of them be a deal breaker for most? I’m not terribly high on Clement and could accept Jones for Bedard if the rest of the price were not too high. I just don’t kno if Tillman or Butler would push it over the ledge (Triunfel would push it too far in my opinion).

  32. Walrus on January 8th, 2008 12:07 am

    FWIW and IMHO, Tillman is Morrow 4 years ago…before the arm issue that Morrow had, and probably has a good chance of being stronger / harder thrower, and with any luck better control than Morrow.
    Butler is Bedard 5 years ago, but slightly stronger – but Butler has had an arm issue as well as Bedard.

  33. thefin190 on January 8th, 2008 12:11 am

    Well I am not going to say anything yet because nothing happaned yet…

    But 20, perfect analogy for this situation.

  34. Sports on a Schtick on January 8th, 2008 1:18 am

    I suggest this be the counter widget. Let’s hope it never updates.

  35. Joof on January 8th, 2008 2:11 am

    [did not read previous comments, duplicated previous comments]

  36. terry on January 8th, 2008 7:49 am

    Seventeen days seems like a long time to go without doing something stupid but it hasn’t been for lack of trying.

  37. bakomariner on January 8th, 2008 9:12 am

    msnbc also has the deal getting closer to being done with jones and company for bedard…terrible…

  38. bill1410 on January 8th, 2008 9:30 am

    I kind of agree with bakomariner, and not others above about Jones being included in the deal for Bedard. The article quotes Bavasi as saying Morrow is off-limits, but Jones is therefore not, which seems odd to me. Jones is a lot closer to performing at a star level than Morrow (neither may make it there), and we’d be getting a star pitcher back, so Morrow/Clement/someone other than Truinfel would make me happy, while Jones/Clement alone makes me unhappy.

    Am I valuing Jones too highly? Bedard and Morrow too lowly? I would prefer no deal than giving up on Jones now.

    Even with Bedard, does this team competes for the playoffs this year? I don’t think so. I know Bavasi needs us too, but I don’t think so.

  39. galaxieboi on January 8th, 2008 9:52 am

    This is awful. It would seem Bavasi is going for bust the next year or so, wouldn’t it? For years I’ve chuckled at Pirate fans and Ranger fans for their front office shortcomings…now I shall laugh at myself. Shame on me.

    On a lighter note. Dave, I picked up THT’s 2008 Annual this last weekend. Nice writing. You summed up my feelings of ’07 exactly.

  40. msb on January 8th, 2008 9:55 am

    I can’t decide if “Seventeen days without a bad move” was hubris or whistling past a graveyard.

  41. bakomariner on January 8th, 2008 10:06 am

    i’d be fine with a deal that sent morrow, clement, and any minor leaguer but triunfel for bedard, but am against any deal involving jones…that kid will be a stud…

  42. bakomariner on January 8th, 2008 10:07 am

    and now the bedard rumor has it’s own post…

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