Game 38, White Sox at Mariners

DMZ · May 10, 2008 at 6:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Vazquez v Washburn, 7:10.

I looked at the mini-schedule on the M’s home page today and saw that they were headed to Texas after this series. It gave me a start — I’d forgotten, and being reminded that the team the M’s just went 1-3 against would be their next opponents caused my heart to fall. “Can we just skip ahead to divisional rivals the Padres?” I thought.

Anyway, as this posts I’m likely trudging down Occidental smiling on my way into the game.

Comments

296 Responses to “Game 38, White Sox at Mariners”

  1. jspektor on May 10th, 2008 6:18 pm

    Have fun at the game – you will need a lot of liquor to endure.

  2. CC03 on May 10th, 2008 6:27 pm

    Willie is hitting 2nd. I’m not watching tonight.

  3. Tek Jansen on May 10th, 2008 6:29 pm

    Did anyone catch tonight’s lineup of absurdness? It includes Cairo and WFB. Liquor indeed.

  4. B.W.Marx on May 10th, 2008 6:31 pm

    Just have one look at the lineup….frightening.

  5. Tek Jansen on May 10th, 2008 6:35 pm

    You know, BoMel didn’t start making out lineups like this until August of 2004. Looks like Mac is getting a jump start on the Mariners’ death march.

  6. IndieSnob on May 10th, 2008 6:40 pm

    I’d like to see a nice chart with a regression line that models the amount of drinking due to the Igniter! & Cairo being in the lineup. Blech.

  7. jspektor on May 10th, 2008 6:46 pm

    disappointed when on May 10th, a thought pops into my head thinking that my team is mailing in the season … terrible feeling.

  8. msb on May 10th, 2008 6:48 pm

    coming up on Baseball Tonight, a special report on The Maple Bat: Delicious But Deadly. I think it is narrated by Troy McClure.

  9. area 51 on May 10th, 2008 6:57 pm

    despite the lineup, you know it is baseball, you never know…

    may be its boom booms night to light em’ up.

  10. red_devil20 on May 10th, 2008 6:58 pm

    Wow, can we just forfeit?

  11. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Cairo??
    Again??
    It’s gonna be a long nite…
    Okay I don’t have to work tonight so…tonight’s drinking game (because I’m trying to be optimistic AND I don’t wanna get stupid drunk) everytime the Mariners score a run it’s JAGERBOMB TIME. If someone named Bloomquist or Cairo gets a hit..make it a double…
    Gawd..the things I do to keep the games interesting the days are hard on my liver…
    Oh well…Go M’s!

  12. HamNasty on May 10th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Did Sexson’s appeal not go through or something? Thought that usually lasted a few days to a week.

  13. Tek Jansen on May 10th, 2008 7:01 pm

    Sexson’s suspension was reduced to five games, starting tonight. Still, it is damning of the organization that the best they can do is Cairo.

  14. red_devil20 on May 10th, 2008 7:03 pm

    Tek, I don’t think Cairo’s the best they can do, but it’s the best they’re willing to do. There are better solutions, but they would have to jettison Cairo, which for some reason is unthinkable.

  15. JI on May 10th, 2008 7:04 pm

    I’m glad we have Cairo playing first instead of Notron.

  16. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 7:06 pm

    everytime the Mariners score a run it’s JAGERBOMB TIME. If someone named Bloomquist or Cairo gets a hit..make it a double…

    What if Princess Willie or Cairo hits a double?

  17. Tom in Edmonds on May 10th, 2008 7:06 pm

    I better c some bag heads or I will b very dissapointed.

  18. HamNasty on May 10th, 2008 7:07 pm

    Think that tugboat can hit?

  19. JI on May 10th, 2008 7:11 pm

    Think that tugboat can hit?

    No.

  20. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:11 pm

    A double???
    LOL
    seriously…
    If either of them hits a double I’ll drink the whole damn bottle…

    What’s Ben Broussard doing these days..maybe he could play first for five days…then when he goes three for three we can release him…

  21. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:12 pm

    …speaking of which…did anyone notice the huge offensive numbers Wilkerson put up today?

  22. HamNasty on May 10th, 2008 7:13 pm

    The league leading team in HR going up against Washburn. The worst RHP hitting team in the league going up against Vazquez. This will be ugly.

  23. justinh on May 10th, 2008 7:22 pm

    Why don’t u take a shot for every out by Cairo or Willie? Double for a K. That way you get hammered.

  24. HamNasty on May 10th, 2008 7:22 pm

    Just because the Tigers are not meeting expectations does not mean its ok for the Mariners to be below expectations. I hate hearing that statement.

  25. MarinerYelly on May 10th, 2008 7:23 pm

    Lets hope we can put a solid hitting performace up tonight….LETS GO M’S!

  26. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:23 pm

    Cairo is playing first right? Hmm…don’t think that would be fair….

  27. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 7:26 pm

    Wlad could be the new face of the franchise with plays like that one.

  28. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 7:26 pm

    I’d love to hear bob uecker do the broadcast

  29. justinh on May 10th, 2008 7:26 pm

    Maybe we should trade for Moyer. Put him at DH. He is hitting .273 with .697 OPS.

  30. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:28 pm

    I think Broussard is back in the studio, working on his next album.

  31. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:28 pm

    For all you stats guys:

    Cairo’s Batting Average .067
    Cost of a whiskey and cola (1oz) .67
    Combined IQ of Mariner’s FO 67

    weird huh?

  32. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 7:29 pm

    I’m sure Jon Miller will let us know when Broussard’s next album will drop tomorrow night.

  33. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 7:29 pm

    the M’s are one White Sox sac fly from being totaly out of this game

  34. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 7:31 pm

    So much for a sac fly.

  35. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 7:32 pm

    thats like 5 games worth of runs in one swing

  36. CC03 on May 10th, 2008 7:33 pm

    The Reds fired their GM already, why can’t Bavasi just be fired already? Any day f’in day now people.

  37. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:33 pm

    the Dangers of The Maple Bat is now on BBTN.

    It might be more gripping than watching Wash.

  38. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 7:34 pm

    i dont mind Maple bats, I just dont want my daughter bringing one home

  39. justinh on May 10th, 2008 7:34 pm

    God damn Cairo.

  40. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 7:34 pm

    McLaren should be fired, right now, just for putting Cairo at 1B.

  41. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 7:35 pm

    37… what about maple bars? Mmmm, maple-y goodness.

  42. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:35 pm

    and even worse, the saturday night line-up on RTN is just as bad as this game.

  43. Slippery Elmer on May 10th, 2008 7:37 pm

    McLaren should be fired, right now, just for putting Cairo at 1B.

    Seriously! wtf?!

  44. Steve T on May 10th, 2008 7:37 pm

    Cairo at first base is beyond bush league. Cairo and WFB both on the field — I think the Rainiers could take us.

    I’m sorry, I can put up with bad baseball but Cairo playing at 1B just makes me angry.

  45. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:37 pm

    what about maple bars? Mmmm, maple-y goodness.

    you know, baked up some of those Trader Joe’s pecan sticky buns for lunch today with my dad …

  46. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 7:38 pm

    I see we’re showing off our defense tonight.

  47. IndieSnob on May 10th, 2008 7:38 pm

    Jones would have had that, er…

  48. MedicineHat on May 10th, 2008 7:38 pm

    So, because Cairo doesn’t get an error on that play, thanks to Lopez & Washburn, The M’s don’t get out of the inning and Washburn gets an earned run.

  49. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:38 pm

    how in the world can they look at this and believe that they have fielded an above average defensive team?

  50. fishiam on May 10th, 2008 7:39 pm

    Do you suppose Geoff Baker was watching and will acknowledge that Ibanez’ defense did unquestioningly cause a run to score? That a league-average LF catches that without the drama?

  51. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:39 pm

    Derek may be buying a lot of beers tonight.

  52. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 7:39 pm

    Can you see anyone in the stands with a bag on his/her head?

  53. justinh on May 10th, 2008 7:39 pm

    Kenji is the worsed defensive catcher in the league!!!

  54. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 7:39 pm

    Jones wouldn’t have had that.

  55. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 7:40 pm

    Losing in baseball is so much worse than the other sports. Getting a high draft pick means nothing. unless its gay-rod or Griffey its a crap shoot. The idiot you sign to a 60 million gets it all guaranteed. There is really no silver lining in losing other than hoping everyone involved never works again.

  56. fishiam on May 10th, 2008 7:40 pm

    …. caused 3 runs to score at this point ….

  57. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 7:40 pm

    Holy cow! What a train wreck…you don’t like what you are seeing, but you just can’t stop watching it….

  58. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:40 pm

    remember just last week when Washburn had the one-hitter going?

    good times.

  59. MedicineHat on May 10th, 2008 7:40 pm

    So what does a pitcher think right now…you’re guaranteed a loss cause there is no way your team can come back and you’ve got no defense behind you. When you are a pitch to contact hitter, it is hopeless.

  60. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 7:40 pm

    Oh god, Baek.

  61. HamNasty on May 10th, 2008 7:40 pm

    See comment #22.

  62. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:42 pm

    I’m following the action on MLB Gameday because the game isn’t on here until 9pm…
    Wow..perhaps I shouldn’t bother…

  63. msb on May 10th, 2008 7:42 pm

    and yay!!!

    tune in tomorrow for Gavin Floyd’s ‘third-times-the charm’ no-hit bid.

  64. nwtrev on May 10th, 2008 7:43 pm

    I haven’t read the whole thread so if it has been said before I apologize, but geez, Washburn inhales loudly.

    ETA: before I could post this… nice play Raul…

  65. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:43 pm

    Griffey went 2-5 with 2 RBIs tonight…

  66. justinh on May 10th, 2008 7:43 pm

    61 – Oh, make sure you watch. You wouldn’t want to miss Blowers talking about his mullet!

  67. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 7:43 pm

    hopefully there is another fight and Cairo and Bloomquist are prominetly involved

  68. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 7:44 pm

    I come home to this debacle. Whatever. Business as usual.

  69. IndieSnob on May 10th, 2008 7:45 pm

    What’s the over/under that they sign a contract with Derek tonight?

  70. Swungonandbelted on May 10th, 2008 7:46 pm

    Can’t switch the channel for 5 min to watch the debate on maple bats without the M’s giving up a bunch more runs. The M’s version 2008 are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked…..

  71. frannyzoo on May 10th, 2008 7:47 pm

    I come across the game on WGN for less than ten seconds and get to see Ibanez fail to get to a ball AJ rather easily….blah, blah, blah….NASCAR, friggin’ NASCAR is lookin’ good at this point.

  72. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 7:47 pm

    The video of the Pirates coach catching the broken maple bat with his face is scary stuff.

  73. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 7:48 pm

    What channel is the maple bat debate on?

  74. justinh on May 10th, 2008 7:49 pm

    Hey Vazquez could get a no-hitter tonight.

  75. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:49 pm

    Oh well…my Jagermeister is getting really cold…

  76. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 7:50 pm

    The maple bat debate was on BBTN on ESPN, but they’ve moved on.

  77. anson21 on May 10th, 2008 7:50 pm

    I have seen this level of baseball skills only twice in my life ,the 62 Mets and my grandsons T-Ball team. You don’t need to waste time using statisical analysis on this group,they are pathetic.

  78. fetish on May 10th, 2008 7:50 pm

    What’s the record for least amount of runs scored over a 10 game stretch? In the modern (post-WWII) era?

    Over the past 10, we’re 1-9; scored 19 runs and allowed 54, almost a 3:1 margin.

  79. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 7:55 pm

    When a team’s doing bad, the booth guys tend to wander, topic-wise, and my attention tends to wander as well, so it causes these surreal moments of coming back to discover Dave saying things like: He’d put cigarettes out on his wooden leg….

  80. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 7:55 pm

    Great throws by Wlad and Beltre.

  81. fishiam on May 10th, 2008 7:56 pm

    Crede got greedy … got Beltre’d.

  82. TomC on May 10th, 2008 7:57 pm

    Good Lord! I just tuned in and Washburn is pitching to contact — and the score reflects it. Has he been walking a bunch or is he just being lit up like a Christmas tree?

  83. Benne on May 10th, 2008 7:58 pm

    I’m wearing a paper bag on my head here at home, just to keep the spirit alive. Who wants to join me?

  84. Steve T on May 10th, 2008 7:59 pm

    Tom C — Christmas tree. Long, loud fly balls.

    Oh, look, a Mariners hit.

  85. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 7:59 pm

    OMG!

  86. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 8:00 pm

    cancel the postgame show

  87. justinh on May 10th, 2008 8:02 pm

    Here comes our man!!! Get ready to take a shot. A double after the homer coming right here.

  88. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:02 pm

    Looks like a decent crowd tonight. Did they learn nothing?

  89. TomC on May 10th, 2008 8:03 pm

    Cairo just looks awkward at the plate.

  90. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 8:04 pm

    I get the sense that Cairo believes he can hit, the way he just said, “Come on!” to himself as he’s there with two strikes.

    I realize supreme self-confidence is necessary to make it in pro sports, but at some point, don’t the numbers tell you the truth?

  91. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:04 pm

    At the start of the game, we had 5 of the nine hitters batting above .200. Pathetic.

  92. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:04 pm

    Hmmm..do I have one here or not..I’m kinda torn…

  93. justinh on May 10th, 2008 8:04 pm

    Way to beat that out Mickey.

  94. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 8:04 pm

    if you are going to bat bloomy 2nd, shouldnt you just bat Cairo 3rd? why spread em out

  95. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:05 pm

    What the hell..it may be my only opportunity…
    Cheers everyone…

  96. justinh on May 10th, 2008 8:05 pm

    BillyJive…drink up. There was contact!

  97. killer_ewok18 on May 10th, 2008 8:07 pm

    Here at the game. Went to sit over in right field with my paper bag on. I was forced to move. Apparently, the usher checks “everyone’s” tickets. I wonder what they will do when I sit in my own seat with it on.

  98. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 8:09 pm

    Does the JJ Putz bobblehead come with a seat cushion?

  99. praetor on May 10th, 2008 8:09 pm

    cairo is such a cunt

  100. Paul L on May 10th, 2008 8:10 pm

    Just went to check when Dave made his “Five Days” post. It was on May 6th, and assuming we lose tonight we’ll be 0-4 in the first four days.

    One could argue that the next 6 innings are our season, and it’s May 10th…

  101. praetor on May 10th, 2008 8:10 pm

    I’m getting really sick of this, here’s to another shitty season

  102. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 8:10 pm

    Tomorrow is Mother’s Day. Make her proud.

  103. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:11 pm

    Meanwhile, the Rangers are winning their fifth in a row. The Angels are losing, so we aren’t going to be any further behind at the end of the night.

  104. jspektor on May 10th, 2008 8:13 pm

    Someone needs to turn that place into a parking lot

  105. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:13 pm

    killer_ewok18, what’s the crowd like? How big is it and what’s the mood?

  106. praetor on May 10th, 2008 8:13 pm

    Maybe next season will be better

  107. jspektor on May 10th, 2008 8:15 pm

    103 – judging by being there over the past 4 days, i would be surprised if the crowd even knows they are watching baseball

  108. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:16 pm

    A run! A real run!!!

  109. TomC on May 10th, 2008 8:16 pm

    BELTRE !!!!

  110. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:16 pm

    Beltre!

  111. praetor on May 10th, 2008 8:16 pm

    we’re just like the rays, except the Rays are WAY WAY better

  112. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:16 pm

    FUNK BLAST!!!
    Cheers everyone!!!

  113. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 8:17 pm

    First nine games in May: M’s 58-296 for a .196 BA. 17 BB’s for a .240 OBP. 12 extra base hits (8 doubles, 4 HR’s).

  114. killer_ewok18 on May 10th, 2008 8:18 pm

    shtick: for the most part, it seems like they aren’t aware we’ve been playing so awful. Crowd goes insane on Beltre’s homer, cheering WFB and Cairo, etc. Maybe they’ve been watching the other Mariners.

  115. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 8:20 pm

    If the Rangers are winning their fifth in a row, that means we’ll be 4 games out of 3rd after tonight.

  116. jspektor on May 10th, 2008 8:20 pm

    so washburn is good 1 out of 5 starts?

  117. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:21 pm

    #112

    Once you get kicked out for wearing the bag be sure it reads USSMariner.com. Hopefully that might educate a few clueless fans.

  118. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:22 pm

    Maybe Seattle fans are practicing to be like Cub fans.

  119. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:23 pm

    Washburn is throwing 80 MPH meatballs.

  120. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 8:24 pm

    quick question, how does a team with a $117 million payroll end up with Cairo at first, Bloomquist at SS, two minor leaguers and Washburn pitching.

  121. jspektor on May 10th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Sims is losing his mind.

  122. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:27 pm

    The answer:
    Nintendo!!!!!

  123. killer_ewok18 on May 10th, 2008 8:27 pm

    Haven’t put it back on yet. Will let you know.

  124. Benne on May 10th, 2008 8:28 pm

    This is a broken record, but Raul is really, really slow.

  125. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:28 pm

    Ibanez can play first right?
    Right?
    Gawd

  126. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:28 pm

    120. Good question. The only possible answer is GM incompetence.

  127. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 8:28 pm

    Is that booing I heard from the crowd?

    Probably meant for Swisher, not poor Raul, scurrying around like an old lady after her last chicken.

  128. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 8:29 pm

    You could easily make the case that Raul’s defense in LF has cost 4 runs.

  129. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:29 pm

    Personally, I think Baek would be a better starter than Washburn.

  130. killer_ewok18 on May 10th, 2008 8:29 pm

    Okay, I’m in 328 about halfway up.

  131. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:29 pm

    An also better than Batista.

  132. djw on May 10th, 2008 8:30 pm

    Ibanez is a triple machine, and not in a good way.

  133. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:30 pm

    129-so would Dickey

  134. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:31 pm

    But it doesn’t much matter who we have pitching if we only score one or two runs a game.

  135. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:31 pm

    Clement shoulda let that hit him…I’ll drink for a HBP

  136. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:31 pm

    133. I agree.

  137. smb on May 10th, 2008 8:32 pm

    This should amuse a couple people…sorry if someone has already posted it.

    I was just poking around the Yahoo! fantasy baseball columns and read Andy Behrens’ piece on Richie Sexson’s ultimate worthlessness.

    ‘That is a gutless, six-foot-seven, .200-hitting, formerly good player’

    Bottom of the article links to DMZ’s “Your choice of colors, too” ‘throwin’ in the towel’ post from yesterday. Nice to see Sexson’s suckitude is getting the national recognition it deserves, and that USSM can help the cause.

  138. jspektor on May 10th, 2008 8:32 pm

    Clement is working his way back to the minors.

  139. dsmiley on May 10th, 2008 8:33 pm

    Clement: don’t they throw curveballs in AAA?

    133: I’d support calling up R.A.D again

  140. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 8:33 pm

    I feel like I’m watching that scene in “The Natural” where the Knights hire the psychologist to talk to the team….”losing, is a disease”….

    And Clement looks like he’s caught it. Wasn’t he hitting something like .390 in Tacoma?

  141. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:33 pm

    I sensed it was time for another homer. But I didn’t mean Homer Simpson.

  142. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:36 pm

    [no]

  143. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 8:38 pm

    Why’s Baek pitching? Won’t they need him tomorrow when Batista only lasts three innings?

  144. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:39 pm

    Baek threw 93 pitches on Tuesday. So he is pitching on three day’s rest after essentially pitching a whole game.

  145. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:40 pm

    They will need him tomorrow…maybe Cairo can pitch too..it might explain why he’s a Mariner…

  146. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 8:40 pm

    143… you had a point?

  147. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:41 pm

    Reed has a 1.017 OPS at Tacoma. I say send Clement down, put Raul at DH and put Reed in left. At least it would be a defensive upgrade.

  148. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:42 pm

    Wow! Okay so no to Barry Bonds…

  149. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:44 pm

    If the Mariners score a run this inning I’m inviting you all for free Jagerbombs…

  150. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 8:44 pm

    Why would Barry Bonds want to play on a losing team?

  151. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:45 pm

    143. I guess Mac figures RRS can come in for Batista in the 4th tomorrow. But he did pitch on Thursday.

  152. dsmiley on May 10th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Cairo’s OPS: .243
    Cario’s salary in 2008: 850,000

    Can’t we get a minor leagure who can do a better job for less?

  153. Benne on May 10th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Fuck Rally Fries. Why won’t FSN grow a pair and show somebody wearing a bag on their head?

  154. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Thunderous applause for Cairo!

  155. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:46 pm

    NO WAY!!!
    Wow..cheers everyone!

  156. TomC on May 10th, 2008 8:46 pm

    That’s a double for BillyJive

  157. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:46 pm

    Cairo! Isn’t that his second hit of the season already?

  158. Benne on May 10th, 2008 8:46 pm

    Miguel Cairo gets a hit? To quote Kyle’s mom:

    “Wha-wha-whaaaa?”

  159. dsmiley on May 10th, 2008 8:46 pm

    Well he got a hit, but I stand by my point.

  160. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:47 pm

    Um..didn’t he play for the Giants?

  161. justinh on May 10th, 2008 8:47 pm

    Where is that shot?!

  162. Jeff Nye on May 10th, 2008 8:47 pm

    Cut out the Barry Bonds stuff, guys.

    I know this game is boring to watch but we’ve had that discussion as many times as we can productively have it.

  163. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:47 pm

    HAHAH screw you Anderson.

  164. fishiam on May 10th, 2008 8:48 pm

    My ears may deceive me, but I thought I heard Sims say “Drilled by Crede, a single to right”. I guess he two was thunderstruck by the event of a Cairo hit.

  165. Benne on May 10th, 2008 8:48 pm

    It feels weird having runners in scoring position.

  166. tomas on May 10th, 2008 8:48 pm

    Wow. I just turned on the game. Hwhaaugh!

  167. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:48 pm

    $hit..I forgot..okay…anther shot it is…my tummy’s getting warm…

  168. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:48 pm

    sdkla;fuhsdl;ifgdhi;iuf;dasfhs FUCKASDIOFHDSFHn WILLIE

  169. justinh on May 10th, 2008 8:49 pm

    Great job WFB. What an ass!!

  170. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:50 pm

    justinh I said they had to score a run..they’re not there yet…*grin*

  171. killer_ewok18 on May 10th, 2008 8:50 pm

    Ugh. Captain plastic is in my section.

  172. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 8:51 pm

    Dude, Cairo scored, gotta finish the bottle

  173. dsmiley on May 10th, 2008 8:51 pm

    Beltre!

  174. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:51 pm

    LOL
    There ya go two Jagerbombs for everyone…email me for directions to my pub….
    Too funny….

  175. Benne on May 10th, 2008 8:52 pm

    Go Beltre! This game suddenly got interesting.

    Killer_ewok, are you on a BlackBerry or iPhone?

  176. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:52 pm

    I have completely opposite feelings for Beltre and Willie.

  177. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 8:52 pm

    Was that the Princess Wille fan club in the stands?

  178. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:52 pm

    Cheers everyone…

  179. TomC on May 10th, 2008 8:52 pm

    YES! multiple runs at last!

  180. dsmiley on May 10th, 2008 8:53 pm

    Screw it, I’m going to crack open a beer.

  181. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 8:54 pm

    RAUUUUUL!

  182. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:54 pm

    Who are these guys!?

  183. TomC on May 10th, 2008 8:54 pm

    Full credit for this inning goes to BillyJive’s liver, may it rest in peace.

  184. Benne on May 10th, 2008 8:54 pm

    We have a pulse! Rally Pony Time!

  185. praetor on May 10th, 2008 8:55 pm

    cairo still is a cunt

  186. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:56 pm

    No kidding..talk about taking one for the team….
    Here we go again…
    Cheers everyone!

  187. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:56 pm

    Those were some loud cheers for a sac fly. I feel bad for those fans who will undoubtedly be disappointed by game’s end.

  188. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 8:56 pm

    [whispers]
    We’ve secretly replaced the Seattle Mariners lineup with real hitters! Let’s see what happens!
    [/whispers]

  189. Benne on May 10th, 2008 8:57 pm

    How many shots is that for you now, Billy?

  190. praetor on May 10th, 2008 8:57 pm

    my god, down only three runs! quick to the bomb shelter!

  191. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 8:57 pm

    Clement, Clement, he’s our man!
    If he can’t strikeout, no one can!

  192. justinh on May 10th, 2008 8:57 pm

    Good time for a bomb! Com’on Jeff!

  193. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 8:58 pm

    7 and one double although I just did two at once…
    But I’ve had 4 Red Bull…

  194. praetor on May 10th, 2008 8:58 pm

    3-1 good count!

  195. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 8:59 pm

    im not gonna sit here and watch this team score runs, who do the think they are the 27 yankees?

  196. LTMartin on May 10th, 2008 8:59 pm

    Sims just asked if Clement had the green light on a 3-1 count…

  197. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 8:59 pm

    Hey Joey Cora! Ahh, good Mariners memories.

  198. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 9:01 pm

    the fact clement worked a walk right there makes him the third best hitter on this team already. Anyone else would’ve drove that 3-1 pitch right to shortstop.

  199. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 9:01 pm

    I still own a JOey Cora jersey!
    And an Edgar
    ..and an Ichiro 2001 All-Star Jersey
    ..um..and a Bloomquist

  200. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 9:02 pm

    Kenji grounder on the first pitch?

  201. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:03 pm

    So who are the pinch runners tonight with WFB & Cairo playing, since that is why we have both of them … right?

  202. praetor on May 10th, 2008 9:04 pm

    johjima looks like my baseball coach

  203. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 9:04 pm

    MyOhMy Meet Turbo Professional Pinch-runner

  204. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 9:05 pm

    no quality start for Vazquez, moral victory!

  205. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:05 pm

    So who are the pinch runners tonight with WFB & Cairo playing, since that is why we have both of them … right?

    Ah, obviously Turbo and Burke. How could you not know that?

  206. HamNasty on May 10th, 2008 9:07 pm

    WTF is a “4″? And why did it move the 0 out of its place on the FSN scoreboard by the Mariners??

  207. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:07 pm

    With Dotel in the game, it would be wise to have a left handed bat in the linup. Like Norton, for example. Oh wait. I guess that leaves Vidro.

  208. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:11 pm

    Has anyone seen the difference in opponents average over last couple years when Johjima catches vs. Burke? Every starter has a lower ERA and opponents BA when Burke catches. Johjima calls a garbage game and does not know how to work with pitchers.

  209. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:12 pm

    Two batters, two 1-2 counts.

  210. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 9:13 pm

    Yes but Burke is a pinch runner..how unfortunate

  211. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:14 pm

    Oh, how could I forget Burke?! NICE!!

    We wouldn’t want our old #5 hitter (Norton) playing 1B in Richie’s absence … OH NO, let’s play Cairo! At least he plays good D, errr NOT!

  212. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:15 pm

    208. Maybe that’s why Bedard prefers to work with Burke. But I guess one could also plead that Burke presents a small sample size.

  213. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:16 pm

    Good thing we have three catchers!

  214. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:17 pm

    #208 – I’ve wondered the same thing. I agree he calls a terrible game! And didn’t Mac learn anything from Lou as far as catchers go? Who cares if they hit … they need to handle the pitchers first and foremost! I guess the FO doesn’t see that either … 3yrs, $24M

  215. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:17 pm

    211. Norton was traded for a PTBNL.

  216. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:19 pm

    Jamie Moyer is my neighbor and he told me 2 years ago Kenji is the worst catcher he ever threw to. I think that is why Bedard is throwing to Burke for sure.

  217. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 9:19 pm

    Okay same deal as last inning…
    What the hell…it worked the first time…

  218. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:20 pm

    215 – OBVIOUSLY! I’m saying Norton was hitting 5th in the order when they decided to DFA him. Unlike Cairo who is can’t hit himself out of a wet paper bag and is NOW playing 1B.

  219. mksh21 on May 10th, 2008 9:22 pm

    211-

    Im assuming the PTBNL is Soriano????

  220. TomC on May 10th, 2008 9:23 pm

    BillyJive, is someone with you who can call 911 if the Mariners have a big inning . . . maybe one of the Funktastic Five?

  221. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:25 pm

    Cairo should not be called WFB lite. He should be called WFB heavy.

  222. red_devil20 on May 10th, 2008 9:25 pm

    Ok, down by three, Cairo up, we’ve got to pinch hit with Turbo right???

  223. red_devil20 on May 10th, 2008 9:26 pm

    Wrong!

  224. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:26 pm

    218. Sorry, myomy, I misread your previous post.

  225. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:26 pm

    Way to advance the runner for Ichiro. God, bringing up Reed to lpay left and putting Raul at first looks like a Godsend right now.

  226. Tom in Edmonds on May 10th, 2008 9:28 pm

    Cairo proves himself worthless again……

  227. Sports on a Schtick on May 10th, 2008 9:28 pm

    Ichiro has to steal here, unless the M’s feel confident Willie can hit a double…

  228. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:28 pm

    I love how WFB’s new song when he comes up to bat is “Rock You Like A Hurricane”. Willie the Hurricane!

  229. pumpkinhead on May 10th, 2008 9:29 pm

    A walk would be about the best thing Willie could do here.

  230. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:30 pm

    Do you send Willie?

  231. Benne on May 10th, 2008 9:30 pm

    Bring on Beltre.

  232. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:30 pm

    No worries Rick. I just don’t get WTF the M’s are doing. They can’t hit so they keep a pinch runner on their bench instead of a guy who can actually hit. It started with 3 pinch runners when you include Jimerson out of spring training …

  233. TomC on May 10th, 2008 9:30 pm

    I love it when Bloomquist is smart enough to take a walk.

  234. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 9:30 pm

    It would be worth it…but my guts are starting to hurt a little…

  235. pumpkinhead on May 10th, 2008 9:31 pm

    Muahah. How bad do you have to feel if you’re Dotel after you walk Boom Boom.

  236. Benne on May 10th, 2008 9:31 pm

    Do you send Willie?

    God no. Not with 2 outs.

  237. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:31 pm

    No, not with AB being the tying run.

  238. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:32 pm

    Dotel reminds me of Ayala! This must be the feeling other teams had when he was pitching for the M’s.

  239. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:33 pm

    232. I agree with you entirely. Trading Norton who was swinging the hot bat when then have four starters who can’t hit worth a damn is one of the most baffling decisions (along with the Soriano trade) the front office has made.

  240. IndieSnob on May 10th, 2008 9:34 pm

    Well that was incredibly bright. Sigh.

  241. pumpkinhead on May 10th, 2008 9:34 pm

    Yup. That’s about par for the season.

  242. TomC on May 10th, 2008 9:36 pm

    Is it me or does it seems like the Mariners have angered vast cosmic forces? That was infuriating.

  243. juustabitoutside on May 10th, 2008 9:36 pm

    Greg Maddux got his 350th career win tonight.

  244. derubino on May 10th, 2008 9:40 pm

    For me that was the season low point right there…

  245. Flowin on May 10th, 2008 9:40 pm

    I hate to say this guys.. but when WBN Superstation showed the replay of the Ichiro play at the plate, I kinda think the catcher missed the tag. Ichy mighta been safe.

  246. G-Germ on May 10th, 2008 9:41 pm

    Can someone please enlighten me to as why that was not called a balk?

  247. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 9:41 pm

    speaking of cosmic forces, every time I try to post, the site crashes.

    Oh well. It wasn’t anything important…just as expression of despair, with acknowledgment of heavy drinking.

  248. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 9:41 pm

    Don’t look now, but San Diego just won.

    If the Ms lose, I believe we will officially be the Worst Team in Baseball. My oh my!

  249. Flowin on May 10th, 2008 9:42 pm

    man.. now they got the good relievers coming. Dotel is hittable. Linebrink and Jenks arent. Game over. PLus, there is no way Batista beats Floyd tomorrow… and we have to hit the road after tomorrow. It might be a looong time before the Mariners win another game.

  250. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 9:43 pm

    I hate to say this guys.. but when WBN Superstation showed the replay of the Ichiro play at the plate, I kinda think the catcher missed the tag. Ichy mighta been safe.

    We weren’t shown a replay on FSN, but it sure looked as though his hand couldn’t slipped by the swipe tag.

    Perhaps the FSN producers didn’t want to add to our alcoholism.

  251. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 9:45 pm

    I mean, ‘could have slipped by the swipe tag.’

    (Step away from the bottle…)

  252. Benne on May 10th, 2008 9:46 pm

    Can someone please enlighten me to as why that was not called a balk?

    It looked like the pitcher stepped off the rubber first, but I couldn’t tell because I was too busy screaming obscenities at McLaren and Boom Boom.

  253. BillyJive on May 10th, 2008 9:46 pm

    He was safe!

  254. pumpkinhead on May 10th, 2008 9:47 pm

    Every day is a new game. I’m just looking forward to the next win, whenever that happens. Just because the Mariners aren’t headed to the post season doesn’t mean there’s not a chance to see good M’s baseball from time to time =)

  255. Flowin on May 10th, 2008 9:47 pm

    yeah… I mean, it was close either way, and when it happened live, I thought he was out by a mile. But the replay showed that the catcher tagged Ichy as Ichy was touching the plate. It was bang-bang, but after looking at the replay on my computer now, I think he was safe by a hair.

  256. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:47 pm

    Clement has been a total bust so far.

  257. Benne on May 10th, 2008 9:48 pm

    That flyball would’ve been a homer in every other ballpark not named Petco.

  258. Flowin on May 10th, 2008 9:50 pm

    well.. this game is over. That play at the plate was the game. If Ichy is called safe, then it is 7-5, with Beltre up and Boom Boom is scoring position. Dotel was struggling, and Beltre may have tied the game or continued the inning. Then, instead of a 3-run game, it is a 1 or 2 run game, and everything changes. But whatever… that is the way the breaks have gone for the M’s this season.

  259. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 9:52 pm

    RRS Warming up. This really leaves us without a long man for tomorrow’s potential Batista meltdown.

  260. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 9:52 pm

    I would like to apologize, my math was wrong. Even if/when the Ms lose tonight, they still will have a better record than the Padres.

  261. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 9:53 pm

    259… you gotta be kidding me, right? WHY? We ain’t winning this game anyway, let Green finish up.

    @$#@$#$P$%#$ McLaren!

  262. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 9:55 pm

    So, the White Sox add Swisher, Quentin, & Cabrera this offseason to get more ‘O’ and the M’s add Wilkerson, Cairo, & Norton. Lovely!

  263. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 9:55 pm

    Is it me, or do the opposing hitters seem to aim for left field? Raul just keep running around out there, chasing a ball already on the ground.

    There was some irony in that ball Ibanez hit to left field earlier, that if he’d been fielding, would have been an easy double, but was caught handily by Quentin.

  264. justinh on May 10th, 2008 9:56 pm

    Why it wasn’t a balk – - -

    You can fake to 3rd and then go to 1st when runners on the corners. No balk.

  265. G-Germ on May 10th, 2008 9:59 pm

    To me it didn’t look like he was faking to 3rd… it looked like he was going home until the catcher popped out and then he went to first.

  266. Flowin on May 10th, 2008 10:00 pm

    wow.. they are pulling Green.

    NOTE TO MCLAREN: This game is over. The Mariners have scored 4 runs all week, how are they gonna score 4 more in one inning. Cut your losses, let Green finish his own mess, and save Rowland for the 2nd inning tomorrow, when Batista is yanked after letting up 6+ runs again. We already wasted Baek, we need RRS.

  267. Rick L on May 10th, 2008 10:03 pm

    Holy Cow, Matt Thornton is still alive.

  268. justinh on May 10th, 2008 10:05 pm

    266 – We won’t need our bullpen tomorrow, Batista is throwing.

  269. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 10:05 pm

    and he has a good ERA. Glad we got, um, whatsisname for him.

  270. justinh on May 10th, 2008 10:06 pm

    Former Mariner #1 draft pick Matt Thorton.

  271. msb on May 10th, 2008 10:06 pm

    what? you don’t think Joh, Wlad & Cairo can’t take Matt Thornton?

  272. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 10:07 pm

    Thorton, and yet another guy we gave away for a guy, Borchard, who lasted approx 11 AB’s for the M’s before they cut him.

  273. dsmiley on May 10th, 2008 10:07 pm

    At least Joh’s bat is heating up.

  274. dsmiley on May 10th, 2008 10:09 pm

    “And Miguel Cairo — last hope.”

    What hope?

  275. juneau_fan on May 10th, 2008 10:09 pm

    “Miguel Cairo–last hope.”

    Now, those are words to have me reaching for the bottle again.

  276. msb on May 10th, 2008 10:09 pm

    “Miguel Cairo, the last hope” is not a phrase you want to hear.

  277. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 10th, 2008 10:11 pm

    Why is Peter Parker working the post-game show?

  278. praetor on May 10th, 2008 10:11 pm

    [what? no]

  279. MyOhMy on May 10th, 2008 10:12 pm

    “Miguel Cairo” period! Not the phrase you want to hear …

  280. justinh on May 10th, 2008 10:15 pm

    McLaren in his interview tonight:

    “Well we got dug ourselves into a whole early.”

    “Our bats got going a bit.”

    “Beltre had some nice swings.”

    “Yeah Willie was going on 3-1 count and it was just an unfortunate play.”

  281. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 10:16 pm

    Listening to the post-game on Fox….they are trying to make it sound like this was a good game because we scored 4 runs, thanks to Beltre. The fact that we lost 8-4 seems to be lost on these clowns.

    Sigh…

  282. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 10:17 pm

    Does anyone ask why Willie was going on a 3-1 pitch with Beltre up on a 3-1 count and down by 3 runs?

  283. rcc on May 10th, 2008 10:18 pm

    Who is the hottie on FSN Mariners post game….smoking hot! She is the best part of watching the Mariners fail once again.

    I wonder what game the official scorekeeper was watching to not give that slick outfielder Rauuuuuuul a much deserved error.

  284. Steve T on May 10th, 2008 10:18 pm

    Four runs is still below the league average.

  285. msb on May 10th, 2008 10:23 pm

    Mac is a proud subscriber to the Cliche of the Month club.

  286. justinh on May 10th, 2008 10:25 pm


    Does anyone ask why Willie was going on a 3-1 pitch with Beltre up on a 3-1 count and down by 3 runs?

    Down three with 2 innings left you want to get both runners in scoring position if possible. With 3-1 count usually what teams will do if guy on first can run.

  287. Benne on May 10th, 2008 10:32 pm

    Down three with 2 innings left you want to get both runners in scoring position if possible. With 3-1 count usually what teams will do if guy on first can run.

    There’s no way to justify this. It was 2 outs in the most high-leverage situation in the game, with your best hitter at the plate in a very favorable count. The risk of ending the inning is not worth the benefit of an extra base.

  288. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 10:58 pm

    Down three with 2 innings left? There’s no way you are running on a 3-1 count. That’s bad baseball. Period.

  289. don52656 on May 10th, 2008 11:02 pm

    Plus, I’m getting a little sick and tired of hearing about how good a base stealer Willie is….he was 7/12 last year and is 3/5 this year. His base-stealing percentage is a net loss for the team in the last year and a half. He would have been out tonight if Dotel would have made a halfway decent throw.

  290. smb on May 10th, 2008 11:27 pm

    I’ve been a regular reader of this site for a couple years now, and to me the most telling fact of how bad things have gotten lately is that readers are now openly advocating Jeremy Reed as a step in the right direction. And they have a point. I am going to go cry now.

  291. CC03 on May 10th, 2008 11:35 pm

    I can’t believe 33k people were in attendance for this crap. That’s surprising.

  292. Rydogg2122 on May 11th, 2008 12:10 am

    I’d rather have Reed play 1B rather then Cairo. I mean it would make alot more sense bringing Reed up. Have him play LF, Ibanez plays 1B or have Clement play 1B and Ibanez DH. At least you have options. Cairo offers absolutely nothing.

  293. Breadbaker on May 11th, 2008 12:43 am

    Some impressions from Section 127, Row 13 (thank you, friends who got season tickets in 1977 and let me join the group):

    The reason it was such a large crowd is there were a large number of groups, in particular state government groups and elementary schools. Plus it was mom t-shirt night.

    The guy sitting behind me noted, after the first hit of the game, that Washburn was a completely different pitcher with men on base. He had breezed through the first and then the first hit led to the floodgates. Point made.

    Anyone with any eyes at all realizes that Ibanez is just killing us in left. Anything hit into the corner has the potential for being an inside the park homer. The suggestion someone made to send Clement down, bring up Reed to play left and have Raul become the fulltime DH makes so much sense that I assume McLaren and Bavasi are rehearsing their BS responses to it as this very moment. “We have statistics showing Raul performs worse when he’s the DH.”<—expect to see this comment. Try not to snigger too loudly.

    While my gut sense (seeing it in three dimensions though it was obviously a bang-bang thing) was that Ichiro was safe at home, I still don’t understand why he went. If he scores, they definitely walk Beltre and put in a leftie to face Ibanez. If he stays, there’s a slightly larger chance that they give Beltre a nice fat pitch to hit 3-1 (which was the count at the time). When you add in the possibility (as happened) that he’s called out, and look at the bottom five of the lineup, it really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to take the bat out of the hands of the guy who had already driven in three of our four runs with two runners in scoring position.

    And if we’ve got to the point where we have no option that includes pinch hitting for Miguel Cairo with two out in the ninth, what have we come to? Is Jamie Burke incapable of picking up a first baseman’s glove? WFB has played first before; is Yuni completely out? There’s gotta be a better option to at least give the fan’s the appearance that you aren’t already playing out the string on May 10.

  294. Benne on May 11th, 2008 12:51 am

    Are people giving up on Clement? On one hand I can understand–his line of .138/.286/.138 with an atrocious strikeout rate is hard to swallow, and at times he looks like he’s completely in over his head. On the other hand, if he goes back to the minors, it will probably mean more Turbo time.

    Personally, I’d rather watch him play and take his lumps than watch a washed up has-been phone it in.

  295. BillyJive on May 11th, 2008 3:19 am

    No drinking games tomorrow…
    Damn Mariners
    *sigh*

  296. currcoug on May 11th, 2008 12:14 pm

    It is interesting that Clement is struggling at the plate, but doing a solid job behind it.

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