I hate this

DMZ · May 16, 2008 at 11:02 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

I hate this so much. I saw Hoffman finish off the M’s an hour ago. I keep thinking about that last inning even though it really wasn’t all that meaningful, just the capstone to another loss. Then I start going over all the other losses I’ve already seen this season. I don’t know, folks, this is just ridiculous. I’ve gone from horror to humor to a head-shaking resignation and today was nice and sunny and I got a nice ride in even though two cars tried to clip me today at Eastgate, separated by only about 20s (both Mercedes drivers). This was a nice day for me, and I feel like I’d have been better off not having seen the game.

I love baseball, and I don’t want to watch tomorrow.

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61 Responses to “I hate this”

  1. msb on May 16th, 2008 11:07 pm

    so, what are we going to talk about at the next feed? that we haven’t whinged about already? A lot?

  2. juneau_fan on May 16th, 2008 11:14 pm

    Yeah, I couldn’t even be upset. All I could do is mutter, this stinks.

    I wish I could be more profound, or find some inner strength, or just enjoy the real beautiful game, but I can do is mutter, this stinks.

  3. smorinj on May 16th, 2008 11:15 pm

    I feel your pain. I was watching the game at a bar in Orlando (I live in FL) and was being told to “calm down” repeatedly by my friends. Growing up outside of Chicago with my dad a life long die hard Cubs fan I should be used to this. But I’m not. Honestly, I feel that my mood directly correlates with how the M’s do. Wednesday, I skipped watching the game to golf but couldn’t quit calling a 1-800 # to get score updates. When they won, officially, I relaxed a ton and ended up shooting an 83. Today was a good day as well, until this pathetic performance by Batista and the M’s. I mean it took him only 3 pitches to already put us behind tonight.

    I hope that things change. And by change I just simply mean win. I don’t know the answers, no one does. All that I want is to win and have a chance at a championship.

    This is off topic a hair, but I will be at 2 Mariner games over the 4th. July 3rd and 5th with my g/f. DMZ I enjoy you’re stuff despite the fact that I disagree with some of it, but to show my appreciation for this site I’ll buy you a beer or two if you are going to either of those games. Dave same to you if you are going to any of the games in Atlanta (I’ll be at the games on Friday and Saturday night).

  4. jephdood on May 16th, 2008 11:18 pm

    I don’t even get mad anymore.

    Keep them losses coming. This needs to be a disaster of a season to effect change.

    I only wish we could also change the changers.

  5. Mike Honcho on May 16th, 2008 11:20 pm

    I realized the other day that, deep down, I want the team to lose. I can’t support a Mariner team led by Bavasi and McLaren. Just can’t. Want to support the M’s no matter what, but can’t.

    So go Padres. Go Tigers. Go Yanks. Kick our ass and speed up the rebuilding process.

  6. Gerald on May 16th, 2008 11:22 pm

    Sounds like it’s about time for Derek to turn Mariners games into a drinking game.

    Me, I convert my disgust and anger into laughter. Mariners games are better than any sitcom on TV.

  7. smb on May 16th, 2008 11:26 pm

    Cheer up, if you can pass for 14 or under you can get some cheap promo sunglasses with a sponsor logo bigger than the M’s logo at the gates tomorrow. Easily worth the drive into town, assuming you don’t get run off I-5 by moron drivers anyway.

  8. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 16th, 2008 11:37 pm

    What was the last Mariner team this bad?

    This is worse, IMHO, than 2004. At least we had Ichiro! setting the hits record.

  9. matthew on May 16th, 2008 11:37 pm

    I don’t want to watch either, but I find myself watching these games over the NBA playoffs, etc. You’d think I could find something better to do…

  10. juneau_fan on May 16th, 2008 11:39 pm

    Remember the solar bra? It was just on Countdown with(out for tonight) Keith Obermann. Turns out you can’t wear a top over it for the solar panels to work. And the drink holders are sacs, not cup holders.

    Uh, to make this on topic, in one of the countdowns, we’re told that Jason Giambi, to break out of a hitless streak, wears a glittery, tiger-striped thong under his uniform and it works every time. He’s even loaned it to Jeter.

    ….Shall we order a gross for the team?

  11. jephdood on May 16th, 2008 11:44 pm

    Giambi and Jeter are sharing underwear? Well isn’t that special.

  12. geofftoons on May 16th, 2008 11:48 pm

    I very rarely post…. but geez, how bad can this team get?! Has anyone started a pool on whether Bavasi and McClaren last to the All-star break? I give it about two weeks at this pace.

    But, being the glutton for punishment that I am, I’ll keep watching.

  13. shortbus on May 16th, 2008 11:53 pm

    Don’t despair, Derek! Tomorrow we get to learn whether Bedard is totally not worth what we gave Baltimore, or is the worst trade in the history of baseball.

    It’s the Washburn / Batista / probably-soon-to-be-Silva games I’m finding intolerable. Because you know those guys will give up three to five runs at least. If your team doesn’t wave Red Vines instead of bats, you might hope that you’d pick up some of those games. Not us. We like big, red, floppy, useless pieces of candy.

  14. don52656 on May 16th, 2008 11:56 pm

    Amen. I’m past the train wreck fascination part. Now it feels like 2004 all over again, only this time it’s worse. In 2004, I could rationalize that we’d just had a great 9-year run and baseball is basically a cyclical sport. I can’t make that rationalization this time. After going through 4 losing years, it looks like we’re going to have to start all over again. Yuck.

    This feels to me like it’s going to be a 90+ loss season, maybe we’ll get to close to 100 losses. We’ve just about finished the “easy” part of the schedule and we’re on a pace to lose 103. From what I’m hearing on the radio, there seems to be some internal problems on the team….Washburn/Johjima, no one talking to the media after the game, etc.

    It looks to me that it’s time to get a new GM in here and start the purge. We need a new team. We have some valuable parts to begin building the new Mariners. Let’s get on with it already so we can at least have something to look forward to.

  15. don52656 on May 17th, 2008 12:02 am

    Regarding the Bavasi/McLaren “pool”, I predict Bavasi won’t last through the All-Star break, and maybe not past May. I think McLaren may survive initially but will probably be let go at the end of the year.

    This team is 16-27 during a time when they thought they had a chance to compete. I wonder how they’ll do now that they are realizing that they have 119 games left to play and virtually no chance to win. Win hell, they are 5 games out of 3rd and losing ground daily. Holding this team together and keeping it competitive will be a real challenge for McLaren and his staff.

    Looks like the AL West is going to be a good race. Too bad we’re the only team on the outside looking in.

    Josh Hamilton is a stud. I’m glad to see it.

  16. scraps on May 17th, 2008 12:17 am

    Losing sucks. It sucked when I was a kid, too, but at least then there was the excitement of being new, building something. Now they’ve been good, and they suck again, and there’s no good reason for it other than incompetence. I get angry, but the anger is wasted; no one in the organization will even face the fact that they suck, never mind trying to do something about it.

  17. scraps on May 17th, 2008 12:21 am

    I wish that I could believe that Bavasi would be fired midseason — and yeah, I know the reasons not to do it, but emotionally I want him gone as soon as possible, and have a hard time believing that the damage of changing captains before the draft is worse than the damage of having him still running the ship for another full season, along with the awful chance that the team turns it around just enough for Bavasi to keep his job another year — but I don’t believe they’ll fire him. We’re stuck with him.

  18. jephdood on May 17th, 2008 12:27 am

    I usually hit 10-12 games/yr. This year we will be going to ONE game- the train giveaway date. And ONLY because my wife collects them and she can’t miss one.

    I gotta believe.. Get enough people like me ducking out on buying a ticket and it eventually hits ownership in the wallet where it hurts.

    Changes might be made when the pens in accounting change over from black to red.

  19. DKCecil on May 17th, 2008 12:30 am

    I’m sitting in the bleachers in the 9th inning, and I see Bloomquist take second without a throw. A brilliant idea pops into my head for a book title. Indifference: The Willie Bloomquist Story.

  20. Steve T on May 17th, 2008 12:37 am

    I’m surprised. I never have trouble with Mercedes drivers. The ones I see are usually in their 90s. BMW drivers are the hyper-aggressive tailgaters, and Audi drivers are the ridiculous swerve-arounds who pass on the right on city streets, and the new thing seems to be asswipes in Saabs — a guy cut right around me to make the left in front of me, no signal, and I was already going over the speed limit. He missed my front bumper by inches. What is it with these people?

  21. batura on May 17th, 2008 12:42 am

    I don’t ride through Eastgate. Too dangerous. I wish they’d build a real i-90 bike trail.

  22. tomas on May 17th, 2008 12:43 am

    I said it before and I’ll say it again. I’m done until they get some new people running things. Love the M’s, even love the players. They get a pass because I feel they’ve been set up to lose by the idiots in charge.

  23. Milendriel on May 17th, 2008 1:05 am

    20- Don’t forget the Cadillac drivers who go 25 MPH under the limit (Okay, that’s an exaggeration, it’s more like 10). Good times.

  24. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 17th, 2008 1:11 am

    Eastgate is cool because the P&R is the fastest way to get to Safeco – combo of regular Sound Transit buses and the special Mariner game buses. Getting back is just as easy.

    One thing I miss about not working there is being able to easily hop on a bus and be at Safeco in a half-hour depending on traffic. Hit up a scalper or the ticket office, grab a delicious Reuben Dog (TM), and life was good.

  25. juneau_fan on May 17th, 2008 1:29 am

    Giambi and Jeter are sharing underwear?

    There was a third player, but my brain had seized at the image of Giambi and Jeter handing off that thong that I missed it. I do know it wasn’t A-rod, sadly.

    How do you wash a glittery thong anyway?

    Because I like to pick at scabs, I had to go look at the standings. It’s not the top of the standing that are depressing, it’s the ‘bottoms’ that are above the Mariners. The Pirates have a better record. The Astros. The Giants have the same record and were supposed to be the laughing stock of the league this year.

  26. Mike G. on May 17th, 2008 1:29 am

    This is pretty bad. This just makes the Bedard trade that much worse. Not that Bedard isn’t great it’s that it’s pretty obvious now (well to anybody that it wasn’t obvious already) that a long rebuild is necessary. Again the Mariners can afford to avoid a complete fire sale but the loss of 5 pieces in that trade hurts the impending rebuilding process that much more.

  27. seattleslew on May 17th, 2008 1:55 am

    Last season I was in SF, far away from this misery. It was weird being there on Barry’s birthday while he was about to break the record. I wasn’t excited about it. I’m not from San Francisco, I’m from Seattle and I couldn’t stop giving Bonds shit from the Left field bleachers. I can remember screaming at him thinking about how glad I was that Barry wasn’t and probably never would be a Mariner. I also thought that he looked like a beached whale standing out there. What a fathead. Funny enough, I grew up a Giants fan, too. This is only because I used to go to Everett Giants games. But the 2007 Giants sucked and I was miserable waiting for that foggy night, extra-inning game to be over and done with. I was, for the most part, cold and tired, thinking of my Mariners and how inexplicably well they’d turned out to be. The thing was, it wasn’t misery up here, it was deceit. We could see the writing on the wall. After Boone, Olerud and our glory days faded, I expected a fresh start from the FO. Well, I didn’t really… I assumed the revolving door would continue as it has. We ended up getting a bunch of dead weight and broken promises.

    The point of having a sports team in any city is to have a successful product the average fan can watch with pride. It felt good to be a Mariners fan that night, feeling so much pride. How times have changed. Man, I feel no pride when watching this team. Bavasi has run these guys into the ground. This is Woodward Part 2. This is Clay Bennett. Utterly tactless, foolish, moronic, dimwitted lemmings that they are. Oh how I hope to God for a real GM before I die. Not one who’s previous GM experience was at a Federal Way KFC, or so it would seem.

  28. Roger on May 17th, 2008 2:26 am

    The puzzling thing is that Bavasi is a smart guy, according to Dave and DMZ, and they’re smarter than me, so I’ll trust their word. I also expect Lincoln isn’t dumber than a sack of hammers.

    So–how do they get here, the most pathetic team in baseball? I’m a simple baseball fan, with no special learnin’, and even I could see that this team was headed for the crapper based on off-season acquisitions and promising players casually discarded.

    The only conclusion to draw (and it’s been mentioned many times before) is that the Baseball Club of Seattle simply doesn’t care much about winning. Offer enough hope each year to sell enough season tickets and game-packs, keep the money flowing–that’s their philosophy, in a nutshell.

    People only remember the good from the past and love big names. So when the M’s acquire a “big name” even if they’re past their prime, it puts butts in the seats. Look how many fans give free rides to washed-up vets based on what they did ten years ago, versus how short a leash they hand a new kid who is still getting their feet under them but has some promise.

    Look no farther than the comments from the “you guys hate the M’s, you suck!” folks on this very blog before and shortly after the season got underway.

    The Mariners front office understands those fans to a T, and that’s their demographic. Apparently it’s a sizable enough market to keep the private jets fueled, and an easy one to cater to–after all, smarter teams want nothing to do with the washed-up guys, so they’re always out there, buying Seattle guidebooks and making tentative calls to our local realtors.

    Perhaps some of the these stupid-huge contracts the M’s hand out are simply a way to reassure their target fan base that the guy being signed still has something in the tank. “If he ain’t any good, why would they give him $6 million bucks? Can’t wait for the season!”

    This isn’t baseball, it’s “entertainment.” I’d rather watch baseball.

  29. BlazerD on May 17th, 2008 2:56 am

    It’s times like these I take comfort in the fact that my other favorite team has the brightest GM in all of sports. Kevin Pritchard.

  30. xxtinynickxx on May 17th, 2008 4:21 am

    Maybe the Mariners can trade Sexson and Vidro for a couple of razor clams, I think Bloomquist might be able to arrange that deal.

  31. seadiv88 on May 17th, 2008 5:49 am

    I’m numb. I can’t feel my legs.

  32. windwardtrades on May 17th, 2008 6:55 am

    [This is not a Lincecum thread]

  33. Sports on a Schtick on May 17th, 2008 7:01 am

    How the hell did “35,586″ people convince themselves to go watch the M’s last night? Is Seattle’s interleague “rival” really that much of a draw?

  34. msb on May 17th, 2008 7:05 am

    Regarding the Bavasi/McLaren “pool”, I predict Bavasi won’t last through the All-Star break, and maybe not past May. I think McLaren may survive initially but will probably be let go at the end of the year.

    I thought it was the players’ fault? Isn’t that what I heard?

    Indifference: The Willie Bloomquist Story.

    starring Emile Hirsch.

  35. msb on May 17th, 2008 7:09 am

    Lincecum.

    How the hell did “35,586″ people convince themselves to go watch the M’s last night?

    JJ bobblehead. you know, JJ’s deadpan commercials for the bobblehead series may be one of the few bright spots in this entire season–

  36. Joe C on May 17th, 2008 7:10 am

    Yeah Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

  37. Sports on a Schtick on May 17th, 2008 7:12 am

    Okay, I can for that.

    Actually, that’s quite sad. Under normal, non-super sucky circumstances that giveaway should have been a sellout.

  38. rcc on May 17th, 2008 7:48 am

    I agree with Mike @ # 5. I have no hope that the current regime can do anything but put band aids on this team. I want them to lose so that a new front office can come in that knows what they are doing.

    I want Bavasi fired now because I have a concern that to save his job he will make more horrific trades.

  39. scraps on May 17th, 2008 8:21 am

    The only conclusion to draw (and it’s been mentioned many times before) is that the Baseball Club of Seattle simply doesn’t care much about winning.

    I can think of two other explanations that pass the is-it-likely test better than that:

    First — as has also been mentioned many times before — being smart and being adaptive don’t necessarily go together. Bavasi is articulate, clearly a sharp guy, but the game has moved forward and he’s been slow, at best, to adjust.

    Second — and I think this is crucial — there’s smart compared to the rest of the world, and there’s smart within the small world of your demanding job. Bavasi’s smart, but most of the rest of the baseball executives may be smarter. Smart is the minimum to be at his level.

  40. cheapseats on May 17th, 2008 8:31 am

    Make it stop. I’m getting to feel like the only thing to do is wrap it with garlic and pound a wooden stake through it.

    The only thing worse, at this point, would be to find out that Junior was on his way…

    39 – Good point. Bavasi’s smart, no doubt. But there’s a difference between sheer intelligence (and that doesn’t mean wit, quick or otherwise, which is a different thing altogether), encyclopedic knowledge, and…

    Insight.

  41. jro on May 17th, 2008 8:39 am

    While we’re in the middle of the World Series of Suck, I found the Worst GM Poll.

    It’s both funny and sad at the same time. In this round-robin tournament of voting, Bavasi was ranked 4th as the suckiest GM. (Sabean of the Giants comes out on top, though.) Throughout the tournament, there is running commentary that essentially assesses the end-result of the efforts of a GM.

    This post says it all about our sharp, articulate guy. In baseball terms, he stinks. No, he needs an upgrade to “stinks”. Actually, he “STANKS”.

    Ownership obviously could care less about Bavasi’s job performance. I don’t believe for one second that Bavasi or Mclaren will be fired this season. If their collective performance to date isn’t enough to warrant a firing, they’ll never be fired.

  42. JI on May 17th, 2008 8:45 am

    This post says it all about our sharp, articulate guy. In baseball terms, he stinks. No, he needs an upgrade to “stinks”. Actually, he “STANKS”

    The gap would have wider if the poll wasn’t Corcobombed.

  43. scraps on May 17th, 2008 8:49 am

    If their collective performance to date isn’t enough to warrant a firing, they’ll never be fired.

    From ownership’s point of view, Bavasi has improved the team, making them a contender, until this year the wheel’s inexplicably fell off.

  44. jro on May 17th, 2008 8:51 am

    Ah, but there’s still time. For the grossly-bored, go here to
    vote for Bavasi as the worst GM. Brian Sabean and Ed Wade have already taken the top two spots, so the race is on for third.

    With only a handful of votes in, we can easily claim the bronze medal for Bavasi.

  45. hoser on May 17th, 2008 8:52 am

    I have this experience with an oddly redeeming sort of frequency. I articulate something that I judge negatively. Very soon I have an experience that puts me in the place of the people I have judged so harshly. It seems to me that the impetus for this post is the flip side of this ost

    I can’t see any hope for the team without Bill Bavasi changing how he evaluates ML players or finds a job that he is better at. It also seems that the team may need to pick more “patient” hitters and train them differently. I am in the crowd that hopes that Mr. Bavasi does not execute any more trades involving promising prospects.

    I do remember that last “disastrous” team (was it 2004?) and at the end of the season I found some enjoyment seeing some of the prospects being called up. It was fun to see Sherrill, Bucky Jacobsen, and other unlikely characters called up and occasionally perform. This year, the real interest for me comes from seeing Clement, Wlad and the development of Lopez, Felix and hopefully Yuni. When the club gives up on Richie, Vidro and Cairo and this season, I am hopeful that we will have some more interesting prospects to bring interest to the games.

  46. Hoover on May 17th, 2008 8:52 am

    Well…I’ll go to see stuff like Ichiro stealing second after a bunch of pickoff attempts and a pitchout, Beltre bouncing off the bar at the camera pit to snag a foul popup, the Balentien to Beltre to Sexson to Betancourt to Johjima putout of Iguchi at home, and even Johjima managing to drag his foot across home to get a bases loaded put out on a wide Sexson throw.

    Other than that, I can take my daughter shopping around Safeco, and answer questions like “Why do the players have to spit all the time?” and “Can we come back when they’re going to use the pink bats?”

  47. joser on May 17th, 2008 8:59 am

    [dupe]

  48. gwangung on May 17th, 2008 10:00 am

    I can’t see any hope for the team without Bill Bavasi changing how he evaluates ML players or finds a job that he is better at. It also seems that the team may need to pick more “patient” hitters and train them differently. I am in the crowd that hopes that Mr. Bavasi does not execute any more trades involving promising prospects.

    Not Bill Bavasi. The whole friggin’ team. Because I don;t think they were great shakes before that, with the exception of Pat Gillick….

    Second — and I think this is crucial — there’s smart compared to the rest of the world, and there’s smart within the small world of your demanding job. Bavasi’s smart, but most of the rest of the baseball executives may be smarter. Smart is the minimum to be at his level.

    Yeah, Double accent on that.

    The dumbest guy at Stanford is still a pretty smart person for the world at large….but that still isnt gonna help with all the other cut-throat premeds in his class…

  49. scott19 on May 17th, 2008 11:31 am

    it’s pretty obvious now (well to anybody that it wasn’t obvious already) that a long rebuild is necessary

    Amen to that. As painful (and unprofitable, from an attendance standpoint) as a Detroit-style rebuild might be, I’m starting to think that maybe the road to redemption will only be paved by completely blowing up the roster and taking the lumps of one (or two) 100-loss season(s) in the process.

  50. wabbles on May 17th, 2008 12:18 pm

    Yeah, I just read a quote recently that gross incompetence is often mistaken for malice. I wonder about that as gaze forelornly over this wretched wreck of a roster.

  51. nwtrev on May 17th, 2008 12:56 pm

    I am so frustrated as a Mariners fan. But my boss gave me tix for sec 133 row 28 for tonight. How can I say no to that?

  52. jlc on May 17th, 2008 1:04 pm

    51 – similar story here, but my tix are for Sunday. Anybody else going to be there? I’ve given up hoping the Mariners will win any particular game. I’m still watching every game, although I’m often doing work at the same time, where before I was kind of obsessive about missing a pitch.

    I figure that way I can enjoy Ichiro! and Beltre’ and Kenji, et al, and not get upset at the bonehead mistakes the guys make sometimes. It doesn’t bother me when guys get into slumps, but the stupid errors drive me nuts.

  53. Ebenezer on May 17th, 2008 1:36 pm

    48 – I think Bavasi is a nice guy who lacks emotional intelligence. He refuses to adapt the innovations in evaluating baseball talent to his approach, and the M’s have paid the price during his tenure. His attitude reminds me of the recording and newspaper industries, who would rather crash and burn than adapt to a changing marketplace.

    The thing that really bothers me about Bavasi is that he’s been given so much time with two teams and has nothing to show for it. After this season, he’ll have a perfect record in eleven seasons of missing the playoffs. That despite having healthy player payrolls and being in a four-team division. It’s certainly different than what happened with Paul DePodesta.

    After Bavasi is let go, my guess is that the M’s hire another GM with an outdated approach and the team will continue to lose. I hope I’m wrong. It is odd that in this region with all these innovative tech companies, the M’s are about as anti-innovation as there is in MLB.

  54. franklloyd on May 17th, 2008 2:04 pm

    After 43 games of 16-27 cellar-dwelling baseball, the M’s have given me NO REGRETS about terminating my beautiful Sec 129, Row 33, Seats 1 & 2 40-game package. That’s $3500 I saved this year not paying to watch this train wreck. I’ve been a season ticket holder since 1996. I couldn’t spend another nickel to support Bavasi/Lincoln/Armstrong’s incompetence.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    Go Rays!

  55. kenshabby on May 17th, 2008 2:44 pm

    What I’d like to know is when all the baseball commentators will stop offering the rhetorical “What’s wrong with the Mariners, a team that was expected to battle the Angels for the AL West title?” question. Who ever suggested such a thing in the first place? Must be because of the “Bedard-King Felix one-two punch” thing plus Ichiro and Putz. Guess they weren’t paying attention to our middle relief, offense, or team defense.

  56. jlc on May 17th, 2008 3:02 pm

    But, but, our defense is one of our strengths. Mac and the FSN boys still say so.

  57. don52656 on May 17th, 2008 4:47 pm

    Anyone who has seen the team play would have to agree, in my opinion, that the team defense is below average. I’d like to see a discussion regarding where changes are most necessary. I think most everyone (except John McLaren) agrees that Ibanez plays a woeful LF. He tries hard, but just doesn’t have the wheels. Where else is the defense lacking?

    Anyway, my vote is for the right side of the infield. I don’t know exactly where to start; most everything I’ve read on this site seems to favor the “Sexson is a terrible fielder” camp. I think Sexson lacks range, but he seems to have pretty good hands, and he handles the flip to the P covering competently from what I’ve observed. I actually question how good Lopez is at 2B. It seems to me that he cheats way toward 2B and leaves a huge hole between him and Sexson, and doesn’t have much range up the middle either.

    If I were McLaren, I’d be screaming for Jeremy Reed to come up and play LF and move Raul to DH. Between Ibanez/Sexson/Clement/Johjima, you could set up some good platoons at 1B and C, and use one of the remaining two at DH. It seems that this would greatly improve the defense in LF and upgrade the offense at the same time.

    I don’t know what to do about Lopez, though. Plus, I’m not sure I’m right about his defense. Comments, anyone?

  58. wabbles on May 17th, 2008 4:59 pm

    RE 57: Well, I’m not as down on Lopez as you are but your ideas otherwise are good as anything else we could do. The problem, though, is the McLaren (and whomever else) doesn’t understand the basic concept(s)surrounding platooning. So even if they made your suggested personnel moves, the players wouldn’t be used properly to ensure maximum effectiveness. ‘heavy sigh’

  59. argh on May 17th, 2008 5:25 pm

    Well, I’m as discouraged as the next guy but some generous (and affluent) friends gave us a couple of tix to the Diamond Club tonight so even if Bedard and Company blows up I’m taking a doggy bag and hauling home a couple of days worth of buffet.

  60. The Unkown Comic on May 17th, 2008 6:17 pm

    I have been telling people for a month or so that the only way to get any pleasure out of watching this current Mariners team is to root against them. Looks like people are finally finding this out.:)

  61. thr33niL on May 17th, 2008 6:49 pm

    If this team is still 8+ games back by July, something drastic should be done. But I imagine the chances of that are about zilch. Nothing worse for fans than a team in denial. The high years are a bunch of ‘almosts’ and ‘what if’s and the lows are downright awful. Always more of the lows than highs of course.

    A franchise run like the Mariners is like being stuck in baseball purgatory.

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