Baek designated for assignment

DMZ · May 21, 2008 at 8:57 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Because someone has to take the fall for the awful pitching and God knows it can’t be Silva, Washburn, or Burke, personal catcher to the immature and poor interviews.

Because boy, is this bullpen exhausted!

Who Today, May 21 Day -1, May 20 Day -2, May 19 Day -3, May 18 Previous
Baek 38 35 off   May 12
Green     off 20 May 14
Lowe   16 off   May 16
Morrow     off   May 16
Putz     off 14 May 17
Rhodes     off 3 May 16
Rowland-Smith 35 16 off   May 16

Oooooooooooooor not.


69 Responses to “Baek designated for assignment”

  1. dirk on May 21st, 2008 9:02 pm

    Hmmm….Maybe Washburn to the pen, RRS to the rotation, and RA to long relief?

  2. huhwhat on May 21st, 2008 9:05 pm

    Maybe Washburn and Batista rotate being the Moose…Actually they probably would fail at that too.

  3. jsa on May 21st, 2008 9:07 pm

    Sending some random player down because your “Stars” fail (as expected) seems too dumb even for this front office.

    Did someone see Cha pitch and offer the M’s a bat for him or something so they take him out of the lineup?

    Cha has always seemed to suffer from butterflys when working as a starter, (for the Ms at least) but as a long reliever, often sent out with the bases drenched, he seems far more competent than Washburn.

    Who comes up? R.A.? Baker seems to think so, but I’ve seen nothing even hinting of that other than his blog.

  4. scott19 on May 21st, 2008 9:13 pm

    Maybe Washburn and Batista rotate being the Moose…Actually they probably would fail at that too.

    Too funny…I could SOOOO see Wash tipping over Moose’s ATV! :)

  5. CC03 on May 21st, 2008 9:14 pm

    While Baek can pretty much be replaced easily, I still hate seeing him DFA’d after these two games of terrible SP performances. I feel like the M’s are just trying to put the blame on someone and say “hey, we’re making moves”.

  6. Tek Jansen on May 21st, 2008 9:16 pm

    Well, Cha has pitched in consecutive games, which means that he would have been unavailable tomorrow. Batista is pitching, so the M’s will need a fresh long reliever by the bottom of the second.

  7. msb on May 21st, 2008 9:18 pm

    Burke, personal catcher to the immature and poor interviews.

    Burke was just on with Elise, and my goodness, he earnestly announced that they just have to turn it around, they are too darned good to play that way, they are too good an offense, why just look at the Yankees last year, how they turned their season around, and with their pitching staff, why they could go to the world series if they got on a roll.

  8. scott19 on May 21st, 2008 9:26 pm

    7: Probably ’cause he knows that if he says anything that even remotely smacks of sounding “critical”, he’ll likely be the next one DFA’d.

  9. SexsonMendoza on May 21st, 2008 9:28 pm

    “Maybe Washburn and Batista rotate being the Moose…Actually they probably would fail at that too.”

    And Sexson and Vidro could be ball boys.

  10. msb on May 21st, 2008 9:29 pm

    no, it wasn’t that at all.

  11. MattThompson on May 21st, 2008 9:30 pm

    And Sexson and Vidro could be ball boys.

    With their lead gloves? I shudder to think of it.

  12. scott19 on May 21st, 2008 9:35 pm

    Man, we’re bummed out enough just talking about how sucky these guys are playing on here…can you imagine how bad the morale level has got to be in that clubhouse?

  13. Tek Jansen on May 21st, 2008 9:51 pm

    Who is the favorite for the next DFA? And I am not including younger players who may be sent down to the minors for more work (Morrow, Lowe, Reed, etc.).

    I put Vidro at a Big Brown-esque 1 to 9 odds.
    Cairo is second at 15 to 1.
    Sexson comes in third at 35 to 1.

  14. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 10:12 pm

    You have got to be kidding!!!

    Mark my words…Baek will be someone’s stud in the rotation one day…
    Meanwhile we put up with Washburn, Sexson and Cairo in the lineup???

    This is absolute horse shit…sorry…pony shit!!!

    I think I might have to start watching hockey again…

  15. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 10:13 pm

    Oop..I forgot Turbo…normally I just wish I could forget him…

  16. westfried on May 21st, 2008 10:16 pm

    Baek’s pitched long two days in a row. M’s need a long reliever for tomorrow (Batista), so they want Dickey up. Maybe they’ve had an almost-ready Beak trade percolating.

    So, they DFA Baek, which gets them a roster spot for Dickey, and hope they can finalize the Baek deal within the 10-day timeframe. They won’t get anything brilliant for him, but there could be 2-3 teams competing for a cheap starter.

    Losing Baek, per se, isn’t horrible. Doing it in a way that they can bring up Dickey and have ten days to work out the best possible trade for Baek isn’t horrible.

    Having boxed themselves into a coreder (can’t DFA the millionaire’s club of Silva, Wash, Batista) IS horrible.

    Just like trading a RH bullpen arm for a LH starter isn’t a bad idea, unless the names are Soriano and HoRam.

    Just like easing rookies into the lineup isn’t necessaroily a bad idea. But bringing up your hot-hitting AAA outfielders (Jones, Reed) and sitting them in favor of Turbo IS horrible. (And then, of course, being shocked that they’re rusty.)

    Sometimes, the loose beginning of an idea isn’t so bad. But, man, the execution is terrible.

  17. bavasihaspictures on May 21st, 2008 10:16 pm

    It’s a good thing that Morrow is still in the pen, I’d hate to see him rot in Tacoma learning how to start. Err, Baek and Dickey in the pen together would show all those profitable families that visit the Safe or Liberty field that this team is D-U-N done.

  18. Joe C on May 21st, 2008 10:24 pm

    Washburn must have found a way to blame the nine runs he gave up today on Baek because he couldn’t blame it on Johjima this time. Maybe he told McLaren that Baek flashed a mirror at him from the bullpen or put some sort of foreign substance in his food that debilitated him to the extent that he couldn’t get his fastball above 83.

  19. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 10:24 pm

    Gawd I hope it’s not a trade..because we all know how those work out for us…

  20. jimforjim on May 21st, 2008 10:28 pm

    I think the most interesting number from today’s game was Washburn’s game score. -1 Now, I’m not a big fan of game scores, but that is rich, isn’t it?

  21. will_k on May 21st, 2008 10:37 pm

    17- oh god you just made my day worse thinking about that. Yes, Morrow’s too valuable in the bullpen.

  22. Colm on May 21st, 2008 10:39 pm

    How do you spell “SCAPEGOAT” in Korean?

    This is a terrible, terrible move. I’m not saying Baek is Randy Johnson, but, dammit, this is appalling, immature, downright cowardly personnel management. It’s whipping the little orphan boy becuase the young master pissed in his bed. The Mariner’s should have the balls to DFA the whining incompetent that is Jarrod Washburn.

  23. jspektor on May 21st, 2008 10:39 pm

    sandmeyer was so pissed off that when I was listening to the radio today he wanted the Moose fired.

  24. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 10:40 pm

    Come to think of it..this whole mess is the Moose’s Fault!!!
    Off with his head!!!

  25. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 21st, 2008 10:57 pm

    I was listening to Elise and Puckett tonight. They were talking about the Ms had to make a major change after this humilating loss.

    Then they announced Baek being DFA’ed.

    Both were speechless.

    Puckett was guessing that Dickey would be called up because “it would make sense”, but you could tell that he was thinking that “sense” means nothing this year.

    How about:
    RRS to rotation.
    RA Dickey to rotation.
    Batista to long-relief and spot starts.
    Washburn to games where 5 runs were given up in the first inning and the game is over. He gets to finish the game. “Enjoy your 120 pitches.” Or, better yet, cut bait and bring Baek back.
    Morrow down to learn to be a SP.
    Corcoran back up to replace Morrow in bullpen. Or Rohrbaugh.

  26. fetish on May 21st, 2008 11:01 pm

    This has to be a trade setup – Baek has looked like a decent bullpen item for a team that needs some inexpensive help, especially one that sees itself as perhaps a wild-card contender. Or the Yankees.

    Question #1 – Which teams fit that bill?

    Question #2 – What are we looking for? A starter, perhaps a salvage project? Hopefully not an outfielder, seeing as how Reed isn’t even playing. A utility player? We have two already. A first baseman? Yes, but who’s low enough on their team’s totem pole to warrant getting just Baek in return? Maybe a contract dump, but we’ve got some contracts of our own to shed, so that’s unlikely.

  27. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 11:02 pm

    Does it even matter at this point?
    Let Ichiro and WillieB pitch…Trade Washburn for a nice area rug…
    Release everyone else batting under .250 and replace them with FAs and minor leaguers…
    and lower the price of the garlic fries…maybe people will quit bringing rally fries signs…

  28. nel98029 on May 21st, 2008 11:03 pm

    Damn that SOB Moose! We can only hope they are trading Baek for the Philly Phanatic.

  29. DMZ on May 21st, 2008 11:06 pm

    Fixed the table

  30. Jeff Nye on May 21st, 2008 11:19 pm

    It really is like they’re laughing at us.

  31. jlc on May 21st, 2008 11:26 pm

    The good news is coolstandings still gives us a 0.9% chance of getting to the playoffs. The bad news is that we cut that in half just since yesterday. If we continue to halve our chances every day, how many decimal places will we need by the all-star break? Hell, by the end of the month?

  32. WTF_Ms on May 21st, 2008 11:30 pm

    Anyone see the Rob Neyer Jonah Keri interview on ESPN Page2?

    Rob: OK, so how about the Mariners? Seems like a long time ago, doesn’t it, that they were everybody’s favorite dark horse?

    Jonah: Not mine! I didn’t like them at all at the start of the season. I wasn’t quite as optimistic about the A’s as you were in late March (kudos on that one), but I had no problem with anyone predicting a third-place finish for Seattle, even last place if the Rangers ever got their pitching together. To me, the biggest issue with the M’s was their woeful lack of secondary players. You had four stars on this team: Erik Bedard, King Felix, J.J. Putz and Ichiro, with Adrian Beltre a fifth player you could classify as very good. After that, ugly. The Bedard trade subtracted a very important bullpen arm in George Sherrill and what would have been a valuable defensive outfielder in Adam Jones.

    In fact, for all the wailing about the M’s offensive problems, it’s been their inability to catch the ball that’s been their most consistent problem over the past couple of years. They turn fewer balls in play into outs than just about any team in baseball. Raul Ibanez resembles a mummified Boog Powell in left field, and plenty of others on the roster have defensive reputations that far exceed their actual contributions. Throw in injuries and ineffectiveness turning Putz into half the dominant force he was last year, and Ichiro, at least to date, looking like he may actually be human, and I just don’t see enough here. The Mariners don’t make the playoffs, they don’t contend for the playoffs and we see wholesale changes between now and Opening Day 2009.

    Rob: I think that’s right. The M’s went to a great deal of trouble to improve their rotation, and the guys they got have been fine. But they’re still stuck with Miguel Batista and Jarrod Washburn, both of whom make good money but can’t actually pitch. And the M’s are last in the league in OBP and only figure to improve a few slots once Ichiro gets going. Fork, meet M’s.

  33. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 11:30 pm

    The playoffs?? LOL
    I am just hoping we don’t finish dead last at this point…

  34. jlc on May 21st, 2008 11:40 pm

    I’m hoping we don’t stay last in the league.

  35. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 11:43 pm

    See we’re all aiming high but the wind keeps blowing the piss back in our faces…

  36. WTF_Ms on May 21st, 2008 11:45 pm

    I think we’ll be lucky to be single digits from the second to last place!

    My guess…63-99, just under 100 losses….

    That ought to get SOME heads to roll…but probably not the right ones. :(

  37. ManageWA on May 21st, 2008 11:50 pm

    at least there’s the mariners can look forward to the draft lottery, right guys? … guys?

  38. PADJ on May 21st, 2008 11:53 pm

    I like the quotes about “they had to do something.” Evidently no one has told these guys that simply doing “something” doesn’t necessarily make things any better.

    In a weird way the M’s have started to remind me of the expansion Seahawks. They didn’t win very many games, but they were entertaining to watch. You never knew if they were going to run a fake field goal or some other trick play.

    It’s probably a good bet that some in the FO are beginning to feel warm in their seats, so now they’ve decided to “do things.” Let the fun begin!

  39. Sklyansky on May 21st, 2008 11:56 pm

    I hope we break the team record for losses in a season. And looking at the players and manager, I think 105 losses is a very realistic goal.

    Its really the only way Lincoln/Armstrong will consider going in a new direction.

  40. BillyJive on May 21st, 2008 11:59 pm

    The only direction that Lincoln/Armstrong can go that would be good for this out the door…

  41. abender20 on May 22nd, 2008 12:25 am

    Get Kevin Towers really drunk and get him to trade Peavy and Adrian Gonzalez for Silva and Sexson. Convince him that height and weight are better than proven results.

  42. Breadbaker on May 22nd, 2008 12:35 am

    No plan, no conception, no idea. We need to do something, so we release Norton (who has been hitting) and keep Cairo (so we can have a second pinch runner on the bench, apparently). Our defense is fine and we’ll let our starting pitchers choose their personal catcher, regardless of the effect of this on the offense (they don’t actually expect Burke, who was a small sample freak his whole major league “career” to continue to be a .300 hitter if he played 40% of the time, do they? Okay, they probably do, just like they think the outfield defense is good). So it’ll be Wlad, Truinfel and Aumont for Junior, who will demand an extension at $25 million for 2010 and $40 million for 2011, and they’ll give extensions to Turbo, Sexson and Washburn, but lose Bedard after he spends the next two years on the DL.

    Maybe they’ll tell us that they have to have a new stadium next.

  43. Typical Idiot Fan on May 22nd, 2008 12:54 am

    I’m hoping we don’t stay last in the league.

    Stephen James Strasburg.

  44. scott19 on May 22nd, 2008 1:28 am

    I am just hoping we don’t finish dead last at this point…

    Good thing we’re not in the English Premiership right now…we’d be in serious jeopardy of falling into the second tier.

    If we weren’t there already, that is.

  45. scott19 on May 22nd, 2008 1:31 am

    In a weird way the M’s have started to remind me of the expansion Seahawks. They didn’t win very many games, but they were entertaining to watch.

    Yes, but these guys aren’t even entertaining to watch at the moment.

  46. Lorenzo on May 22nd, 2008 1:59 am

    I was just reading a story about the Padres, a team that seems to running strangely parallel to the M’s this year (as has been noted). Apparently, Kevin Towers called his team “bad” and “threatened wholesale changes.” Contrast this with Bavasi, who, as far as I know, hasn’t spoken out publicly in weeks.
    Isn’t this, on some level, the most infuriating thing about this organization? Not the bad personnel decisions, the terrible managerial hires, the dancing groundskeepers or eighteen dollar garlic fries. For me, the worst thing about the Mariners, an organization I used to deeply love, is their inability to admit that they made mistakes; their absolute deficit of accountability. To anybody. But especially to the fans.
    Why is Richie Sexson still on the team? The guy could hit a hundred home runs this year and it doesn’t matter. He was done in Seattle two years ago. The man has a brain like a raccoon, the poise of a teenage girl. You know who should have been designated for assignment today? JARROD WASHBURN! Stick Baek in the rotation. The man deserves a chance. And what does Jose Vidro provide? Maybe he has value as a hitting instructor. But he is not a major league baseball player! What does Miguel Cairo do for the team? Where’s Greg Norton? And Matt Clement? And Ben Broussard? And Asdrubal Cabrera? And George Sherill? Who’s our eighth-inning shutdown set-up guy this year? Is it Morrow or Green? Or Lowe? And why oh why is Raul Ibanez still playing left field?
    I know all of the above has been repeated ad nauseaum on this site already. But for me it’s not even the baseball stuff; it’s the character stuff. General managers make mistakes. They even sometimes construct wholly bad teams, like this one. But at least have the decency, the respect for all of the people who pay these absurd ticket prices to go to the ballpark, the people who tune in every night on television and radio, who write blog posts and argue and dissect and debate, to own up to your failure. Give us that much at least.

  47. edgar for mayor on May 22nd, 2008 2:28 am

    [button term violations]

  48. JMHawkins on May 22nd, 2008 2:47 am

    Pardon me while I throw stuff.

    This is asnine. No, Baek will never be confused for Randy Johnson, probalby never confused with Jamie Moyer. But for the love of Christy Mathewson, Baek was a useful, inexpensive guy. Frankly, he’d probably be better in the rotation than Washburn or Batista. He damn sure was for a third of last year, and even though he doesn’t have a ton of upside, he’s got more upside than those two guys. If it was up to me, I’d put Baek and RRS in the rotation and exile Washburn and Batista to the pen. This season is lost, and we might as well see if either of those “kids” (Baek is a bit old to be a kid, but still) can hold down the tail end of the rotation over the course of a full season.

    Just another case of bad decisions. Hell, if the needed another pitcher, DFA Cairo and go with short bench until the next pitcher goes on the DL, or just go ahead and carry a 12 man staff, whatever, it’s not loke Cairo was getting enough work to be missed.

    Prediction: Baek ends up starting at least a dozen games for somebody this year, and finishes with a better ERA than both Washburn and Batista.

  49. WTF_Ms on May 22nd, 2008 3:38 am


    Prediction: Baek ends up starting at least a dozen games for somebody this year, and finishes with a better ERA than both Washburn and Batista.

    Easy prediction…

  50. shirts on May 22nd, 2008 5:13 am

    Someone should take the fall for the awful hitting as well. How’s that new call-up Vidro hitting these days?

  51. bermanator on May 22nd, 2008 5:23 am

    The solution is obvious. Baek and Clement to the Orioles for Kevin Millar.

    Millar is a great clubhouse guy and great with the media, filling Seattle’s two major needs.

  52. Ballfour on May 22nd, 2008 6:34 am


  53. bunk_medal on May 22nd, 2008 6:47 am

    There’s no more reason to put Washburn in the pen now than there was since he became a Mariner. Last year, when Washburn was off to a great start, Dave posted a very intelligent article noting that whilst his ERA was vastly different, his walk and strikeout rates were almost identical to his previous performances. The main difference was his LOB% which sat at 78.9%.

    Well, here are the BB/G and K/G stats for Washburn’s last four years (including 2008) –

    2005: 2.6 BB/G; 4.9 K/G
    2006: 2.6 BB/G; 4.9 K/G
    2007: 3.1 BB/G; 5.3 K/G
    2008: 1.8 BB/G; 5.3 K/G

    These figures are actually marginally better than they have been in recent years; however, his LOB% has dropped to only 59.9% and that’s the reason why his ERA is so high. Just as it was wrong to assume that Washburn had turned into a great pitcher at this stage last year, it’s wrong to assume that he’s completely done as a pitcher now. He’s still exactly the same number 4/5 in the rotation guy he’s always been.

  54. BaltimoreDave on May 22nd, 2008 7:03 am

    Bavasi’s hands are tied, while Towers’ aren’t.

    Good point – and really, this is an ownership issue.

    Like Towers, Bavasi has a lot of work to do to rebuild his team. But while Towers has all but admitted he’s punting this season to build for next year and beyond, Bavasi is caught in the middle – try to win now, or punt and rebuild? That he feels he’s in this spot reflects poor ownership. If they don’t trust him to do this work, he should be gone tomorrow. Otherwise, he should be assured that he’s free to make the best moves for the future of the organization – and that he’ll stick around to enjoy the fruits of his labor if he does his job properly. There can be no middle ground, which is where (at least from an outsider’s perspective) Bavasi appears to be.

    It will be very interesting to see how these two situations play out.

  55. PADJ on May 22nd, 2008 7:24 am

    45 – Yes, but these guys aren’t even entertaining to watch at the moment.

    Only from the standpoint of what new brand of WTF move can they make or fail to make today.

    54 – Completely agree. Very well said. That’s what should be done in any well run organization and…umm…oh…

  56. Rick L on May 22nd, 2008 8:10 am

    Prediction: Baek ends up starting at least a dozen games for somebody this year, and finishes with a better ERA than both Washburn and Batista.

    This is maddening. it is hard to see how the M’s can be so incredibly stupid in their personnel decisions. They need hitting, so they DFA Norton and keep Cairo. They need pitching, so they DFA Baek and keep Batista. One gets the sense that these decisions and so many more (Soriano for Ramirez, etc.) were made by people who had never seen a baseball game before.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

  57. xxtinynickxx on May 22nd, 2008 8:50 am

    Right now the Yankees and O’s are looking at Cha and thinking “WOOT WOOT WOOT!”. Good luck Cha, you will be missed. As for the fans, get angry and start writing emails, flood there Inbox till it crashes. Make them see this is BS and fans are sick of stupid moves. Hell someone should start an online petition to show the discontent. We may not know everything going on behind close doors but whatever it is I get the feelings its showing in the overall production of the team.

  58. JMHawkins on May 22nd, 2008 9:02 am

    There’s no more reason to put Washburn in the pen now than there was since he became a Mariner.

    And there’s little more reason to leave him in the rotation than there was before.

    xFIP by year:
    year Baek Wash Batista
    2004 5.74 5.06 5.11
    2005 n/a 5.01 4.27*
    2006 5.08 5.35 4.88
    2007 4.66 5.30 5.12
    2008 5.23 4.58 5.23

    * Used exclusively as a reliever

    In 07, Baek actually started 12 games and was a regular part of the rotation for almost a third of a season. He posted 5.9 K/G and 1.7 BB/G – half the walk rate he posted in 06 and 08, when he was used as an irregular starter and long-relief respectively. This year, doing random long-relief duty, his Ks are down and his BBs way up – if there is such a thing as “roles” impacting performance, then Baek seems to have much better command as a starter. Even if that’s baloney, 07 represents over 40% of the IPs in his ML career, so his “mean” is heavily weighted towards that 4.66. An xFIP in the low 5s or high 4s is perfectly reasonable to expect from Baek as a #5 starter. Washburn, on the other hand, is walking far fewer than he has any time in the past few years, but is that sustainable, or will he regress to his recent career mean in the lows 5s? Batista for his part shows signs of being in his late thirties, and an xFIP below 5 would seem to be unlikely.

    Baek is almost certainly a better pitcher than Batista at this point in their respective careers, and he’s probably a Wash with Wash, with a chance of being a little bit better. He makes league minimum. The one advantage the other two have is they’ve shown more durability.

    Of course, RRS would be at least half a run a game better than any of them. Oh, why bother.

    Derek, the reason the pen is exhausted is those guys who haven’t pitched for a few days, none of them has a “role” that would let them come in in the third inning when the starter blows up. Only Baek and RRS can do that, asking any of the other guys to pitch before the 6th would be like asking your backup 1B or a utility infielder to go play the OF or something.

  59. scraps on May 22nd, 2008 9:02 am

    bunk_medal, you’re probably right. But Washburn has been such an ass and made himself such a team problem — with management’s craven cooperation — that few people are inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

  60. scott19 on May 22nd, 2008 9:16 am

    Millar is a great clubhouse guy and great with the media, filling Seattle’s two major needs.

    Plus, he’s getting a little long in the tooth…and, as we know, those extra years of veteran grittiness are always SO essential.

  61. byronebyronian on May 22nd, 2008 10:43 am

    I read many who say dump Batista, but why not dump Washburn?

    He’s already a sunk cost and RRS would be worlds better at this point. Batista is at least a versatile guy. He can work out of the BP and he’s not the ass that Wash is.

    Jarrod is the perfect example of an entitled vet and the M’s are letting him get away with nonsense. I blame McLaren here. HE is the one getting input here. Baek goes because he isn’t one of Mac’s vets. Bavasi dumps Baek in agreement because he HAS to know that Mac will not use Baek properly.

    As much as I want to dump on Bill Bavasi, I won’t. I have ALWAYS believed the problems we see in this organization are all Chuck & Howie’s doing. Chuck strikes me as a meddler who insists on things being done with HIS philosophy at the heart of it. I see him sitting in a meeting and when a free agent’s name comes up as a possible signing, Chuck weighs in with “I’ve heard of that guy, sign him!”

    Howie and Chuck look only at putting butts in seats (as they should) using the lowest common denominator. Look at Felix. He should get an extension but what are the M’s waiting for? Other orgs have signed their kids. It’s an positive direction all over MLB YET our team can’t seem to extend the one player that will cost them serious arbitration cash down the line.

    When they make a move, it’s like a state secret or something. It took Geoff Baker to note that when Clement was sent down, Jeremy Reed was seen coming into the clubhouse later that day.

    Sorry for the long post, but I tend to be the type that will wait to see how things play out before getting too worked up. It’s time for Chuck to retire, Howie to hire a team Prez that he can hand the reigns to and either give Bavasi full reign to make decisions or fire him after the season and give the reigns to new blood. No more retread GMs. No more bland, faceless Managers. I get it, Chuck, Lou pissed you off with his antics but c’mon. BoMel was a newbie and it showed but look what he is doing with kids in Arizona?! Mac is proving he was a bench coach for so long for a reason. I do blame him as much as I blame the FO. This team has ZERO fire to it. The Padres have more fire and they suck.

  62. jsa on May 22nd, 2008 11:21 am

    So far, in answer to my question posed in #3 the only thing I’ve seen on this page that makes sense is that the 70 odd pitches in the last two days makes Cha un-available and they are using the 10 day window to bring someone (Dickey?) up to finish the road trip.

    (Several have mentioned this above,#6, #16, etc).

    One can only hope this is the case, as any alternative is just painful to contemplate.

    Not that Baek is the worlds best, but he does tend to stop the bleeding more often than not (numbers from memory). Besides his scolded child expression when he gets tagged for a long ball is entertaining to the opponent fans.

  63. Steve T on May 22nd, 2008 1:17 pm

    Baek has to be happy to get the hell away from this fucked-up organization. Maybe he’ll land on a team that knows what they’re doing. He would have trouble find one that has less idea.

  64. edgar for mayor on May 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm

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  65. planB on May 22nd, 2008 2:23 pm

    The submit button says “This comment is free of spelling errors”.

  66. edgar for mayor on May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm

    Wow…just wow

  67. edgar for mayor on May 22nd, 2008 2:28 pm

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  68. planB on May 22nd, 2008 2:30 pm

    It’s not a forum at all, actually.

  69. Jeff Nye on May 22nd, 2008 2:33 pm

    I’m not going to go back through them all, or start a moderation fight in this thread, but if you routinely make spelling mistakes in your posts, they’re subject to deletion.

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    It’s not a forum at all, actually.

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