Game 53, Red Sox at Mariners

DMZ · May 27, 2008 at 6:23 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

7:10. Matsuzaka v Batista.

In WPA, Matsuzaka is 3rd in all of baseball at 1.84. Ratios:
K/9 7.95
BB/9 5.7
HR/9 .6

Batista is -.97
K/9 6.47
BB/9 5.7
HR/9 .74

1.5K/game separates the two pitchers right now, and in their starts so far, the results have been a difference of nearly three games in value.

CAIRO AT FIREST! His outstanding work charging a bunt yesterday is rewarded with a start!

!1!!!oneone!!!

CF-L Ichiro!
2B-R Lopez
DH-B Vidro
LF-L Ibanez
3B-R Beltre
C-R Johjima
RF-R Balentien
1B-0 Cairo
SS-R Betancourt

Boston:
CF-B Crisp
2B-R Pedroia
DH-L Ortiz
LF-R Ramirez
3B-R Lowell
RF-L Drew
C-B Varitek
1B-L Casey
SS-R Lugo

VIDRO OPTION WATCH:
Only 250-300 plate appearances to go until his 2009 option vests!

Comments

290 Responses to “Game 53, Red Sox at Mariners”

  1. tgf on May 27th, 2008 6:27 pm

    CAIRO AT FIREST! His outstanding work charging a bunt yesterday is rewarded with a start!

    [head explodes]

  2. paulkersey on May 27th, 2008 6:33 pm

    I noticed the lineup says Cairo is a zero-handed hitter. Nice work, Derek.

  3. joser on May 27th, 2008 6:39 pm

    Poor Derek. Following this team has turned him into JeffK.

    And if this keeps up, I may have to start watching games at the Diamond Knot, since a brewery named after a sunken ship (with Diamond in its name, no less) is clearly the patron beer of this year’s team (assuming nobody finds South Pacific, of course). Though if their experiments have come to fruition, there’s no way I’ll be any shape to drive home. Which means the 2008 Mariners were so bad they forced me to live in Mukilteo.

  4. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 6:42 pm

    Youkilis out again? Did he get a twinge in something and I haven’t heard about it yet?

    It’s amusing to note that Ortiz is off to a bad start this year, and it’s only some recent good hitting that’s gotten his OPS+ up to a mere 44 points over his opposite number on the Mariners’, Vidro.

    Never the less, they both bat 3rd, despite their deficiencies.

  5. joser on May 27th, 2008 6:46 pm

    But Ortiz batting 3rd creates a pick-your-poison situation with Manny right behind him. With Vidro, the poison is self-inflicted no matter where he bats (listen to that AB countdown ticking).

  6. James T on May 27th, 2008 6:48 pm

    As opposed to last night which was a very quick game for two reasons (Colon’s good control dovetailing with Mariner lack of patience and Red Sox aggressiveness in response to the threat of Felix H. strikeouts), this game will likely be loooooong.

    The Red Sox will go back into disciplined mode against a pitcher they don’t fear. And Matsuzaka throws a lot of pitches that no one will swing at.

    Last night we were into the bottom of the 7th after about 1:35. Tonight we may be in the bottom of the 4th or top of the 5th.

  7. James T on May 27th, 2008 6:49 pm

    #5. Lineup homeopathy?

  8. Sklyansky on May 27th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Looking at his line-up cards and bullpen decisions, it appears McLaren has been trying really hard to get fired. And naturally, he even fails at that.

  9. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Wouldn’t lineup homeopathy be starting with a lineup like Boston’s, and then, over the course of a season, diluting it with the addition of gritty no-hit types like Cario at 1st, Bloomquist at shortstop, Eckstein at 2nd, Bengie Molina at catcher, etc, etc, so that the effectiveness of the offense is increased due to homeopathic law?

    James: Personally, I’m looking forward to seeing which wins; Matsuzaka’s tendency to pitch out of the strike zone or the Ms’ tendency to swing at balls out of the strike zone.

    Frankly, a no-hitter wouldn’t shock me.

    Of course, having said that, Batista will now no-hit the Sox.

  10. jro on May 27th, 2008 7:01 pm

    Derek – for us less-informed, can you give a quick background on WPA? I’m studying but still behind the curve.

  11. Eleven11 on May 27th, 2008 7:03 pm

    That is the weakest line up I have seen in years. They will probably blow Boston out, Cairo 4 for 4 with an HR, Vidro 3 RBI’s,, etc. Headlines tomorrow, “Mac pushes all the right buttons”. And it continues.

  12. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:06 pm

    WPA

  13. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:10 pm

    And since that leads to the question “What is Win Expectancy?” and the rest of the terms. Bonus: run expectancy (since this has come up a couple of times in the past few games, the Mariners demonstrating new and astonishing ways to beat the odds). Everything else you can probably find at Tangotiger.net

  14. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:12 pm

    Kurt Suzuki would’ve had that. But I’d still rather have Kenji swinging the bat. (Of course Clement might give you both, who knows?)

  15. msb on May 27th, 2008 7:13 pm

    dunno how any of this will compare to the exciting and star-studded two-part Streets of San Francisco episodes yesterday and today — prosecutor James Shigeta interrogating nervous witness Gary Frank in court about the radical “family” he was a part of, before the jury (Darleen Carr, Tina Chen, Jan Clayton, Norman Fell, Barry Sullivan, Dick Van Patten, Joseph Wiseman, James Hong, Doris Roberts, Irene Tedrow, Paula Kelly, Jim McMullen) are taken hostage by hard-as-nails leader Patty Duke and the rest of the gang, Anthony Geary, Ron Glass & Susan Dey …. Susan Dey inadvertantly gives the cops a lead (after info from her mom Marion Ross) but not before she panics and shoots Michael Douglas ….

  16. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:13 pm

    Reed? Reed? Bueller?

  17. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:13 pm

    I feel slightly better about how Manny plays left field now. Slightly.

  18. msb on May 27th, 2008 7:15 pm

    Manny? Susan Dey would have better range than Raul in left.

  19. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:15 pm

    Always wondered what Susan Dey was doing between her life on the road in that multi-colored bus as part of a family pop act and her later career as a lawyer in LA. That seems to fit as a segue.

  20. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:16 pm

    The Red Sox broadcasts use a dead on looking over the pitcher’s head camera positione at Fenway. It’s weird looking from these nearly over shortstop viewpoints now.

  21. msb on May 27th, 2008 7:17 pm

    Only 250-300 plate appearances to go until his 2009 option vests!

    discussion last night post-game on whether Vidro gets to vest– Hasselman can’t believe he will be allowed to, Drayer not so sure..

  22. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:17 pm

    #18. You just want to see that circa Partridge family version of Susan Dey running in left, don’t you?

  23. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 7:19 pm

    I think that if I owned a Red Sox jersey, I’d have Ramirez’s.

  24. msb on May 27th, 2008 7:20 pm

    damn these selective hitters. why can’t the Ms play a team that flails at the plate the way that they do?

  25. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:20 pm

    And given how Danny Bonaduce turned out, the distance between the Partridges and the Mansons doesn’t seem particularly great after all. Perhaps the two families were just one communal cookout away…

    Dick Van Patten, though. Sheesh. There’s a psycho killer family waiting to happen.

  26. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 7:21 pm

    You’d almost think that his willingness to take a walk rather than flail at unhittable pitches is part of why Manny is a great hitter. Almost.

  27. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:22 pm

    I know Hargrove was the M’s manager last year. Did he teach Batista to slow the game down like this?

  28. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:23 pm

    Lowell seemed very hot about a week ago. Now? Ehhh. Not so much.

  29. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 7:24 pm

    Much as I dig the long ball, I’d be totally in favor of slight adjustments to the mound or something to give pitchers a bit more edge, reduce scoring, shorten games, and make ‘smallball’ and one-run strategies more viable. Especially shorten the game.

  30. Rick L on May 27th, 2008 7:25 pm

    This is all a bad dream. The good ship Mariner gurgling into the empty sea, while Tampa Bay is in first place.

  31. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:25 pm

    Dice-K is tied with Fausto Carmona for giving up more walks (38) than any other pitcher in baseball (and third, behind Oliver Perez and Carmona, in BB/9). I wonder how many innings the M’s will go without drawing one.

  32. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:26 pm

    I have a suspicion Lowell must be very popular with ladies of a certain age. But, as I’m not one, I can’t be certain.

  33. ianbrown on May 27th, 2008 7:27 pm

    tell me if i’m wrong but kenji didn’t call for an inside pitch the whole first inning. next time around bautista won’t get so lucky against ortiz and lowell

  34. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:28 pm

    There have been 3 or 4 games where Matsuzaka’s control was just terrible.

    What the hell was he thinking?!? 1st inning!!! Take the out!!

  35. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:28 pm

    Ichiro is doing his damnedest to carry this team. Anybody who claims he’s given up is clearly not actually watching the games.

  36. The Dreeze on May 27th, 2008 7:28 pm

    I wonder if we became the Tampa Bay Mariners, would the Seattle Rays be in first.

  37. Rick L on May 27th, 2008 7:29 pm

    Mac banking on Vidro’s ability to ground out to second and get an RBI.

  38. ianbrown on May 27th, 2008 7:30 pm

    i agree with dave, playing for one run in the first inning? all the sudden mclaren trusts vidro enough to get the run in when last night he had him bunt?

  39. crazyray7391 on May 27th, 2008 7:31 pm

    Great call Rick L

  40. Rick L on May 27th, 2008 7:31 pm

    Mac knows his player’s abilities.

  41. The Dreeze on May 27th, 2008 7:32 pm
  42. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:34 pm

    Ugh. I thought, for a moment, that Crisp would get that. And, seeing the replay, he could have. Damn.

  43. msb on May 27th, 2008 7:34 pm

    Larry Stone is handling the blog tonight, and his pregame notes and game log are off to a roaring start

    I have a suspicion Lowell must be very popular with ladies of a certain age.

    hmmm. well, he is a handsome fellow …

  44. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 7:35 pm

    Can I just state for the record that it is terribly disconcerting to come here and read people talking about the Red Sox as “we.”

    I turned down tickets to tonight’s game, in part because I can’t stand being in an “away” game in my home stadium (and in part for all of the reasons that we’re all so frustrated)–and for the past two nights I’ve had to figure out that neither “Tek” nor “Drew” were actually USSM pet names for Mariners players (a la Turbo or Beluga Tits or, sniff, past tense for Doyle.)

    Anyway, I just needed to get that off my chest. I now have to take a moment to remember how to cheer for Raul.

  45. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 7:36 pm

    James: Eh. On a run and dive like that, I try not to think too badly if the player can’t quite judge the angle and the ball goes over or under the ball by a smidge.

    I would have prefered to see Manny back that dive up better, maybe keep Ibanez on first, instead of having to make a u-turn after Crisp missed it.

  46. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:36 pm

    Sure am glad the Sox paid to bring over this guy with 5 or 6 pitches so that Tek could call 2 of them. Annnnd Beltre misses the cut fastball after all the other fastballs. Okay.

  47. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 7:37 pm

    Man, Beltre has an amazing looking swing, even when he misses…

  48. BigJared on May 27th, 2008 7:37 pm

    05/27/2008 19:32

    Fast Food Vidro scores from 1st on a double.

  49. msb on May 27th, 2008 7:38 pm

    why, the M’s have just invited me to go vote Ichiro! to the All Star Game.

    I see that he is actually in 2nd place at the moment, with (oh, what a surprise) the Yanks & Sox leading the AL voting.

  50. Rick L on May 27th, 2008 7:38 pm

    Who is the better left fielder, Raul or Manny?

  51. Steve T on May 27th, 2008 7:38 pm

    people talking about the Red Sox as “we.”

    Where is that? I don’t see it.

  52. JerBear on May 27th, 2008 7:39 pm

    Vidro is lucky Crisp didn’t make that catch – there’s no way he could have gotten that much weight turned around quickly enough to make it back to first. I mean, I’m no physicist, but it seems nigh impossible to me. On another note, it’s nice to hear some people cheering for the M’s tonight instead of just the BoSox…especially, you know, since they’re in Seattle..

  53. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 7:39 pm

    In my defense, I came back to the faith of my fathers in 2003, instead of September 2007 like some people. I have vivid memories of my father’s reaction to… events, in 1986.

  54. bonesbarry on May 27th, 2008 7:39 pm

    wow. kenji. no.

  55. sm3346 on May 27th, 2008 7:40 pm

    pgreyy- I feel it…there’s an unholy disturbance in the force.

  56. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:40 pm

    And I’ve been a Sox fan since 1977. I signed up here because there was interesting discussion of a lot of different things relating to the game.

  57. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:42 pm

    And I try not to use “we” in speaking of the Red Sox. If I do, I agree that a stern reproach is merited.

  58. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 7:44 pm

    49-I saw that today. It kind of makes me sick that a few players that should at least be in contention are not even close.

    1st base- Giambi in 3rd? really?
    2nd base- Cano 2nd, is he hitting over .200 yet?
    catcher- V-Mart is in 5th? He is getting beat by Posada who isn’t even playing!

    Doesn’t look good for the integrity of the game when half the votes are coming from 2 cities.

  59. The Dreeze on May 27th, 2008 7:46 pm

    MLB should dominate TV on Memorial Day. Why weren’t any games on the tube during the day?

  60. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 7:46 pm

    Not that I disagree, but what’s your proposed alternative? Turn the selection process over to the same geniuses that gave Rollins the NL MVP last year? He was neither the best shortstop in his division, let alone league, nor the best player on his own team.

  61. crazyray7391 on May 27th, 2008 7:47 pm

    Who says Manny can’t play D?

  62. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:48 pm

    Manny seldom makes a catch that couldn’t be accomplished without carrying a martini and not spilling a drop.

  63. SpokaneMsFan on May 27th, 2008 7:48 pm

    Why did Cairo bat right handed? Anyone have any idea? Vidro batted left handed if I remember correctly.

  64. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 7:48 pm

    Eh. That was a Jeter-level classic ‘get a bad jump and make a play that would look (and be) routine for a better fielder look difficult’.

  65. James T on May 27th, 2008 7:49 pm

    while carrying a martini and not spilling a drop

  66. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 7:49 pm

    Can’t argue that. The guy to his left is in at a whole diffrent level. The All-star game is for the fans, but now that it does mean something, should there be intervention? I can’t say myself.

  67. crazyray7391 on May 27th, 2008 7:50 pm

    Yeah, but it’s really sad to think that Manny can still get to that ball after making a bad read. I can just picture Raul getting a bad jump on the same ball and then dropping to a knee to play it on the hop. Ugh.

  68. joser on May 27th, 2008 7:53 pm

    Yeah, James T has been around here for a while. He’s well-behaved, so we tolerate him. There used to be an old guy from Providence (“Pahvidence”) that hung out in my neighborhood bar and had been cheering for the Red Sox since Ted Williams (and had all the psychological trauma to prove it). He was a treat to sit beside for a baseball game.

    On the other hand, Seattle seems to be full of people who have never been to the East Coast and picked up all their Red Sox gear right around, oh, 2004. Or last year. (Presumably displacing all the Yankee gear they picked up around 1996). These people are among the most obnocxious fans I’ve ever encountered. I actually left a bar last year because some loudmouth yahoo in a Red Sox hat (who I’m quite certain has gotten no closer to Boston than Harvard Avenue on Capitol Hill) had me considering starting my first bar fight since some dickwipe decided to decry Prince’s “promotion of interracial sex” in 1984. I realize these people just want to identify with a winning team because their pathetic little lives give them so little else to be proud of, and it’s unfortunate for all those long-suffering BoSox fans that they get lumped together, but seriously: right now, the bandwagon Red Sox fans are the worst fans in baseball. (And I say that having worn a visiting team hat while in the stands at Yankee stadium).

  69. ianbrown on May 27th, 2008 7:59 pm

    i did enjoy the few m’s fans trying to drown out the “lets go red sox” chant

  70. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:00 pm

    I wore a Beckett shirt into yankee stadium in 2006 and was shocked at how tepid the response was.

  71. joser on May 27th, 2008 8:01 pm

    I have no problem with the all-star game being a popularity contest. But if you’re going to do that, it shouldn’t have an effect on the home team for the World Series. And if you are going to have it influence the World Series, then it should just be the top WPA (or OPS, or VORP, or whatever) players at each position, no voting / no choosing / no pity picks for bad teams.

    One or the other.

    As an aside: I never use “we” to refer to the M’s, even though that’s the team I cheer for. I’m not on the team, and I’m not an owner or an employee, so I don’t believe I have the right to use “we”; moreover, I don’t think it’s healthy to do so. I’m sure it doesn’t matter to most people, and it is a convenient shortcut at times, but there certainly are some people who take the identification a little to far. So as a matter of personal style, I keep it formal. They’re them, and I’m me. (On the other hand, I probably have used “we” to refer to the USSM community… I’ll leave it to others to judge whether that’s healthy or not).

  72. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 8:02 pm

    Ok, Batista just blew a ‘fast’ball past David Ortiz? Anybody got a weather report for Hades?

  73. crazyray7391 on May 27th, 2008 8:03 pm

    72
    The temp is falling VERY quickly.

  74. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 8:04 pm

    joser: I totally agree about the use of ‘we’ when referring to one’s favorite sports team.

  75. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:05 pm

    #72. Ehh. 95 mph pitch. Ortiz might have hit it if he’d cut down his swing to one appropriate for just a 500 foot homer.

  76. naviomelo on May 27th, 2008 8:05 pm

    With that flyout by Lopez, Ichiro now leads the team in batting average.

  77. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 8:05 pm

    15:

    Darleen Carr

    Actually, she wasn’t part of the jury in that episode, though. She played her usual recurrent role of Mike Stone’s daughter, Jeanne.

    Though I’ll agree that I’m surprised Danny Bonaduce wasn’t a member of that Manson-style gang…

    Come to think of it, ol’ Danny Boy might make an interesting next M’s manager. At the very least, he’d be certain to lead the majors in ejections every year. :)

  78. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:06 pm

    I will say “we” about the M’s in 6-10 years when they (almost typed we) get back on track and actually win something. “We won the world series!” Yeah, that sounds nice, I will use that.

  79. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:07 pm

    Almost two errors on one play by Casey.

  80. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:07 pm

    I guess that’s what the Tigers are missing.

  81. joser on May 27th, 2008 8:07 pm

    There are almost as many Red Sox fans as Yankee fans in New York (heck, the NY Times is a part owner, and covers the them like they’re a third NY team). You have strength in numbers. That said, unless you were out in the bleachers you probably didn’t get the full effect.

    I wore a Giants hat for a 2002 interleague game in which Bonds hit a home run (long story). Had I worn a Bonds jersey I might not have survived. There are still a bunch of true Giants and Dodgers fans in NY, but they’re mostly using walkers to get around and aren’t much help in a fight.

  82. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:08 pm

    HAHA!!! I would love to see Danny Bonaduce manage the M’s. That would be real entertainment. I would also like to see Mark Cuban own a MLB team.

  83. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 8:08 pm

    I want to be clear that I chose my words carefully. (Well, I could have said that the “implication that Red Sox=we.”)

    I said that it was disconcerting… I’m not angry about it. I’ve lived in Seattle long enough to not get angry about that. Of course, the irony is that’s one thing that East Coasters tend to criticize us about–that if an M’s fan would go onto a Sawks board in a year where the M’s were dominant and the Sawks struggled–hey, this is a rhetorical scenario I’m picturing of course–and even if they participated politely, they’d likely get chased off with a Louis CK-esque “Go suck a bag of dicks.”

    It’s hard enough this year to see MARINERS fans display their frustration by being mad when marginal players on our own team do well or express their hope that we lose enough games to force some serious organizational changes.

    But to go onto a board based for supporting the M’s to see comments about how the poster wishes that Manny would have properly backed up Crisp to keep Ibanez to a single…or worse, to read a CONVERSATION between two Red Sox fans discussing what their team should or shouldn’t do…

    …again, it’s disconcerting.

    Nothing personal.

    …but so was seeing the Portland Timbers soccer player in the stands who got all of his teammates to come to the game–where they put on Red Sox jerseys and cheered for Dice-K striking out a Mariner. I’m definitely of the LeBron shouldn’t wear a Yankees cap to an Indians home game mindset.

    I’m a born & bred Packers fan…and I went to the Packers/Seahawks MNF game here in Seattle with a Seahawks fan…and I didn’t wear any GB stuff and didn’t cheer loudly while the Packers controlled the first half. I just didn’t think it was right. (And since the Packers ended up losing that game, I’m happy with my decision.)

    But, whatever.

    I’m not asking that anything be done–I agree, there hasn’t been any baiting going on by any of the Sawks fans participating here…and good on you Sawks fans for keeping it respectful. I was just expressing how its disconcerting.

    Oh…and Raul’s up again with a chance to drive in Ichiro. For many of us here, that still has the potential of being a good thing, right?

  84. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:09 pm

    And to top it off, I want to see the Moose in a no rules cage match vs. that thing from Philly.

  85. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 8:09 pm

    Hmmm…the Mariners in the World Series…

    Boy, it’d be nice to jump on one of Southwest’s “getaways” to a parallel universe to see that.

  86. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:10 pm

    You think 6-10 years is too optimistic?

  87. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:11 pm

    Fair enough, pgreyy. Thanks for everyone’s forbearance in having us here.

  88. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 8:12 pm

    And I should have known better than to call this a board.

    I guess I’m NOT choosing my words carefully enough.

    Anyway, Go M’s.

  89. Steve T on May 27th, 2008 8:14 pm

    More than a few Mariners fans are actively hoping the M’s lose.

  90. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:14 pm

    Larry Stone may be onto something (not “on” something, note the difference). They just showed two girls about mid 20s with a sign saying that “Boston Ladies Love Mike Lowell”

    Mid 20′s.

  91. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:14 pm

    I almost didn’t watch this game tonight, but I’m glad I did. It’s got me feeling pretty good about this one. Plus, we gotta help out the Rays.

  92. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 8:15 pm

    You think 6-10 years is too optimistic?

    Well, not if it’s 6-10 light years, no. :)

  93. AZ Ms Fan on May 27th, 2008 8:15 pm

    I think ichiro was mocking Crisp lol

  94. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 8:17 pm

    GOD Beltre is unlucky. He just can’t find the grass.

  95. BigB on May 27th, 2008 8:18 pm

    I wore a Beckett shirt into yankee stadium in 2006 and was shocked at how tepid the response was.

    I wore a Ted Williams shirt into Yankee Stadium last year during a Yanks/Angels game (just for kicks) and literally have never heard louder boos. We literally (there were two other guys with Sox shirts – I got suckered in to join them) got booed out of the stadium.

    On the other hand, I wore my Ken Griffey Jr. jersey to the Bronx on Saturday and Sunday, and only had a grand total of 3 people over two days “politely inform” (yell at) me that the Mariners “are not very good this season” (suck). It’s amazing how things change when your team is awful… nobody even puts forth the effort to taunt you.

  96. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:18 pm

    Johjima had more twitches and little gestures there than a pga golfer with OCD.

  97. ianbrown on May 27th, 2008 8:18 pm

    93 haha with that sliding catch? he would do something like that

  98. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 8:18 pm

    I keep hoping the Ms FO will shape up. USSM and LL are so good, I don’t have much choice but to hope that they get a better FO and team to talk about. My heart is very much in sympathy with Ms fans.

  99. JerBear on May 27th, 2008 8:20 pm

    I swear our announcers are in love with Manny.

  100. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:21 pm

    BigB. In slight defense of the yankee fans, I’ve never liked someone wearing a shirt to the game that’s not associated with the teams in question. I’ve been at Fenway when the Sox were playing some other team and seen people with yankee shirts. It’s too much of a provocateur thing for me.

  101. ianbrown on May 27th, 2008 8:21 pm

    [no]

  102. bunk_medal on May 27th, 2008 8:22 pm

    “I doubt he thinks ahead enough to worry about showing anyone up” – doesn’t that just make him ignorant?

  103. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 8:24 pm

    Maybe Sims & Blowers have gotten the memo that there might actually be more Sox fans watching FSN Northwest than Mariners fans at this point?

    (That rings so true, it hurts a little.)

  104. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:24 pm

    Our new first baseman is looking like an improvement. It’s sad when F.M.C. is an improvement.

  105. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Matsuzaka is an excellent fielder. That’s part of why that first inning decision to throw to third on the bunt was so weird. Maybe Varitek totally misjudged it and was shouting “Three! Three!”.

  106. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Ha! Blow, blow! I get it!!

  107. msb on May 27th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Actually, she wasn’t part of the jury in that episode, though. She played her usual recurrent role of Mike Stone’s daughter, Jeanne.

    yup, I realized after the fact that I’d lumped her into the jury– it was just so ridiculous as the faces kept popping up on screen. SOSF wasn’t a show I watched when it was on the first time …

    it’s Wakefield tomorrow, right? wonder if Bedard would like to push back a day, and let Dickey pitch

  108. The Dreeze on May 27th, 2008 8:26 pm

    When the Hawks beat Favre on Monday Night in the snow, some clown wore a Steelers jersey and beanie.

    He got beer dumped on him multiple times, got in three fights (full on fist fights), and then they kicked him out.

  109. Karen on May 27th, 2008 8:26 pm

    71 and 74: Yankee fans, particularly at nyyfans.com and LoHud Yankee blog, are particularly notorious for doing that. Not so much for Red Sox fans at the 2 RS boards I read regularly.

  110. JerBear on May 27th, 2008 8:28 pm

    pgrevy – that could be.

    “Hey guys, we were looking at the tv ratings for this series against the Red Sox, and, uh, it turns out nobody’s really watching. Except for some sox fans of course. So, you know, you can go ahead and talk about them if you want. It’s probably easier to do anyway.”

    Even Niehaus was in on the Manny love-fest earlier.

  111. SpokaneMsFan on May 27th, 2008 8:28 pm

    So nobody knows why Cairo wants to bat right handed against Daisuke?

  112. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:31 pm

    111- Mac is having him try something new.

  113. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:32 pm

    They actually made a yankee fan a moderator over at Sons of Sam Horn. There are 3 or 4 yankee fans posting there who are pretty good.

  114. msb on May 27th, 2008 8:32 pm

    I swear our announcers are in love with Manny.

    I love Manny. I would be happy to have Manny & all his idiosyncrasies on my team. I can understand admiring his hitting on the air.

  115. SpokaneMsFan on May 27th, 2008 8:34 pm

    JamesT: I was at a Red Sox Yankees game at Fenway and I wore my Ms cap. I just got a coupled puzzled looks though. One guy said Mariners??? I told him I was on a business trip, from WA but man do I hate the Yankees. He gave me a hug. I guess the Ms don’t real provoke anyone.

  116. BigB on May 27th, 2008 8:34 pm

    MSB (or anyone) – did you see the “Best of Manny Being Manny” on Baseball Tonight last week after his “high five” play? It was an incredible set of highlights.

  117. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:34 pm

    #110. I’m shocked. Because Manny’s usually a cheap opportunity for announcers to go into high dudgeon about him not respecting the game.

  118. joser on May 27th, 2008 8:34 pm

    Hope there’s nothing wrong with Dice-K. Beyond, you know, giving up 3 runs in four innings to the worst team in the American League.

    Watch now: the Boston bullpen will pitch a no-hitter.

  119. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:35 pm

    I remember reading the headline 18 months or so ago, “M’s trade for Ramirez” and being all excited. Then I found out it was some other Ramirez. Some really bad Ramirez.

  120. JerBear on May 27th, 2008 8:35 pm

    SpokaneMsFan –

    It’s like when you’re playing softball in your church league, and you’re behind 28-6. Sometimes you just want to try batting wrong-handed for the heck of it. Because you know, it doesn’t really matter.

  121. SpokaneMsFan on May 27th, 2008 8:36 pm

    Seal: So he’s just batting right all the time? I tried googling Miguel Cairo right handed, but didn’t see anything relevant, thx.

  122. BigB on May 27th, 2008 8:36 pm

    115: I got that all the time living in Boston for 4 years in the epicenter of that Sox/Yanks rivalry. Kind of the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” factor. Besides, Seattle is arguably the 2nd most Yankee-hating city in the country behind Boston.

  123. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:37 pm

    Aardsma looked very awkward on that throw. Sometimes it’s like pitchers don’t think the infielders throw the ball hard to the first baseman and they don’t dare try and have the poor guy catch their heat.

  124. BigB on May 27th, 2008 8:38 pm

    I remember reading the headline 18 months or so ago, “M’s trade for Ramirez” and being all excited. Then I found out it was some other Ramirez. Some really bad Ramirez.

    My worst fear is seeing the headline in the future “Jose Vidro Resigns” only to realize it isn’t “resign” as in retire, but “resign” as in re-sign. I can’t think of a worse sports transaction headline blunder.

  125. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 8:40 pm

    I’d love to see a Wakefield and Dickey matchup…not sure when the last time two knuckleballers faced each other.

  126. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:41 pm

    “Denver school superintendent proud of Hampton testimonial”

  127. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:42 pm

    “Sexson gets 4 year extension. Bavasi thinks he can be comeback player of the year.”

    “M’s trade Felix for Griffey”I can think of worse.

  128. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 8:43 pm

    That would be a WTF for Lugo…

  129. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 8:44 pm

    That would be a WTF for Lugo…

    Is that now an official stat?

  130. JerBear on May 27th, 2008 8:45 pm

    I hate that smirk.

  131. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Francona doesn’t get thrown out very often. Hell, I wish he’d argue a bit more, not much, just a bit. But when was the last time a shortstop got thrown out for saying something about a check swing. Angel Hernandez needs to be a bit less sensitive.

  132. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Well that was fun. I still don’t get what happened. I guess I’m gonna want to watch the post game show to see what that was about.

  133. Jay R. on May 27th, 2008 8:45 pm

    From Red giving Vidro the hex right over his head to two ejections over a check swing, this has been a pretty entertaining inning. Nothing better than a bad umpire with rabbit ears and a hair trigger temper.

  134. joser on May 27th, 2008 8:46 pm

    Yeah, I was thinking it would be cool to have a Dickey-Wakefield matchup. I wonder how long it’s been since both starting pitchers were knuckleballers. Of course, if things go badly Dickey might end up in the game anyway (yikes, cross fingers, and whatever).

  135. msb on May 27th, 2008 8:49 pm

    and as the tv side pointed out, it looked like Tito had started to walk away when Hernandez tossed one last remark at him, and that led to him saying the magic word that got him tossed.

    boy, the diamond club better watch out, or some of them might get run for remarks about the umpiring

  136. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 8:50 pm

    HAHA!!! I would love to see Danny Bonaduce manage the M’s. That would be real entertainment.

    Actually, I think it would’ve been cool to see ol’ Danny take on Jose Canseco’s $5k challenge to meet him in a boxing ring in Atlantic City this summer.

  137. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 8:51 pm

    To Scott19: re:knuckleballers facing each other.

    According to Wikipedia:

    On July 22, 2007, White Sox pitcher Jon Garland started against Boston Red Sox knuckleball pitcher Tim Wakefield. Garland was relieved by Haeger in the 5th inning, marking the first time in recent years that two knuckleballers have faced each other in the same game.

    …but, that’s Wikipedia.

  138. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 8:52 pm

    Haeger = Charlie Haeger

  139. msb on May 27th, 2008 8:52 pm

    From Red giving Vidro the hex right over his head

    could you see Red? I’m mostly listening

  140. James T on May 27th, 2008 8:52 pm

    I think youtube still has that argument between McClelland(sp?) and Earl Weaver in which Weaver says that he’ll be going to the hall of fame and McClelland shoots back, “For what, Earl, f***ing up World Series?” Classic stuff

  141. BoiseMoose on May 27th, 2008 8:53 pm

    I disllike Angel Hernandez as an umpire. After that smirky, smartass look he got on his face after running Lugo, I don’t think dislike is appropriate here. Its more like I disrespect him as a person.

    Hernandez sucks. His strikezone sucks, his calls suck, and his professional demeanor sucks. I shudder everytime I see him on the crew announcements. Francona had every right to be pissed there.

  142. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:53 pm

    Joe’s Tracer on that a.b. was awesome. It looked like buck-shot scatter.

  143. Steve T on May 27th, 2008 8:53 pm

    Batista’s been very economical until now. Trouble?

  144. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 8:54 pm

    134: My first guess would’ve been back when the Niekro Brothers and Charlie Hough were all still pitching…but then, I remembered that Wakefield and Steve Sparks were both in AL at the same time a few years back, too.

  145. Jay R. on May 27th, 2008 8:55 pm

    could you see Red? I’m mostly listening

    He was crystal clear on the HD signal. Wearing some crazy blue or purple sunglasses. Pointing at Vidro (pointing down) and shaking his head, etc. It was quite amusing.

  146. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 8:55 pm

    ut-oh… is this a turning point?

  147. Swungonandbelted on May 27th, 2008 8:55 pm

    Damn, there goes Yuni’s gold glove….

  148. msb on May 27th, 2008 8:56 pm

    thank you, Yuni.

  149. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 8:56 pm

    Betancourt…you can’t give Batista 4 outs…you just can’t

  150. Swungonandbelted on May 27th, 2008 8:57 pm

    shit.

  151. Jay R. on May 27th, 2008 8:57 pm

    This team is actually cursed. I am now convinced of it.

  152. msb on May 27th, 2008 8:57 pm

    boy, you could just see that coming.

  153. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 8:57 pm

    Oy.

  154. Steve T on May 27th, 2008 8:57 pm

    Yup. Trouble.

  155. JerBear on May 27th, 2008 8:59 pm

    Aaand there it is. I’m going to bed.

  156. Borat4President on May 27th, 2008 9:00 pm

    Gammons says Hatteberg likely to land with the M’s. We’re saved!

  157. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:00 pm

    I hate being ablr to call it like that. Sorry I ruined the surprise.

  158. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:00 pm

    And there is goes…thank you Yuni. That is what happens when you give Batista 4 outs to work with

  159. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:00 pm

    And there is goes…thank you Yuni. That is what happens when you give Batista 4 outs to work with

  160. msb on May 27th, 2008 9:01 pm

    so did Yuni miss that pregame infield drill?

  161. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:01 pm

    -able-

    Who is Jose Can-Strike-Out fighting? Some ex-nfl guy, right? What a jack ass.

  162. Steve T on May 27th, 2008 9:01 pm

    Batista threw 25 pitches in that inning, 64 in innings 1-5. He can’t find the plate, and when he does, they’re finding it too now. Hmm.

  163. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 9:02 pm

    Gee, Dave, I know you’re one of the great voices of the game and all…but must you be that enthusiastic about Manny’s HR? He is, after all, uh, not playing for us. >:(

  164. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:02 pm

    Sorry for the extra post the internet lagged out on me you can delete the extra one and this one :) .

  165. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 9:02 pm

    Just like that.

    And would other teams likely have plunked somebody for Manny’s pointing…or has Mannybeingmanny been accepted by all of the old schoolers?

    (I’m not advocating plunking anyone–I always think that’s foolish strategy.)

  166. Phightin Phils on May 27th, 2008 9:02 pm

    No ownership can be pleased with this many Boston fans in the stands, instead of Mariner fans. Sure they sold tickets, but they can’t be that short sighted to not think what happens when Boston leaves town.

    Pathetic.

  167. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:03 pm

    163, I like Sims. Plus he know thre are more Sox fans watching than M’s fans. He he he…

  168. Steve T on May 27th, 2008 9:03 pm

    Thank you Adrian. A leadoff walk after an inning like that keeps the game from tipping.

  169. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 9:04 pm

    Who is Jose Can-Strike-Out fighting? Some ex-nfl guy, right? What a jack ass.

    Thank you. I hope he gets his ass handed to him on a silver platter. What a chump!

  170. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:04 pm

    166- Oh, they are that short sighted. I think they have porved it over and over and over…

  171. msb on May 27th, 2008 9:04 pm

    Gammons says Hatteberg likely to land with the M’s.

    gritty, hard-nosed, character-laden hometown veteran??

    check.

  172. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 9:05 pm

    Aiiigh. Maybe someone SHOULD distract Manny with actual fellatio.

  173. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:06 pm

    prove, sorry about my sloppyness tonight.

  174. msb on May 27th, 2008 9:06 pm

    Gee, Dave, I know you’re one of the great voices of the game and all…but must you be that enthusiastic about Manny’s HR? He is, after all, uh, not playing for us. >:(

    30 years of calling losing baseball, you take your entertainment where you get it.

  175. Jay R. on May 27th, 2008 9:07 pm

    I wonder if he has braids everywhere? /shudder

    Baserunning. Arrgh.

  176. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 9:07 pm

    I like Sims

    No, actually, I was talking about Niehaus on the radio side. He sounded as if he were calling a grand-slam by Griffey about 10 years ago on that call…yikes!

  177. Paul L on May 27th, 2008 9:08 pm

    You know, I was going to mention this morning that we could end up with Hatteberg because he was yet another hometown guy, but I didn’t think the FO would be that stupid and obvious given the current state of the team.

    Guess I was wrong.

  178. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:09 pm

    This is a strange game. Kenji just stole 3rd.

  179. smb on May 27th, 2008 9:10 pm

    Hatteburg just like Wilkerson…would have been a nice idea a decade ago.

  180. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:10 pm

    Hatteberg would be a pointless pickup. I would rather have Richy. And I don’t use a sentance like that loosely.

  181. msb on May 27th, 2008 9:11 pm

    well, that looked more like the Mariner offense.

  182. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:12 pm

    Unless…. Is Hatteburg viewed as some kind of super team leader? From what I hear, we don’t have one of those.

  183. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:13 pm

    Leaving Batista in there to loose it. Way to go Mac.

  184. jro on May 27th, 2008 9:13 pm

    @Joser 12/13 – thank you much.

  185. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 9:16 pm

    I retract 183.

  186. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:17 pm

    183 – I can’t believe I am about to say this, but tonight you may not blame Mac for the loss. The Innings was Yuni’s fault for giving Batista an extra out to work with. Not Macs fault, Yuni’s fault.

  187. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 9:18 pm

    Though, if he were playing 1B, I’m not sure if Hatteberg — even washed up — wouldn’t be a better option than Sexson at this point.

    And, in a moment of joy that should unite us all — Mariner and Red Sox Nations alike — the final from Camden Yards: O’S 10, Yanks 9. To borrow a line from John Sterling: “YANKEES LOSE!!! THHHHHHHE YANKEES LOSE!!! :)

  188. James T on May 27th, 2008 9:24 pm

    Manny Delcarmen has been terrible in high leverage outings this season. If he can get Lopez this might be his best clutch appearance this year.

    Nope double. Still a chance he can blow it. Sigh. Delcarmen’s from the Boston area so he seems to get an almost complete pass from the media. Very frustrating.

  189. naviomelo on May 27th, 2008 9:25 pm

    Lopez just overtook the team lead in batting average with that double.

  190. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 9:27 pm

    188: Yep…gotta love those “hometown” guys, eh?

  191. Jay R. on May 27th, 2008 9:27 pm

    Clutch deceleration at the bag there, Turbo.

  192. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 9:27 pm

    Arg. I go out to work with the new foal here and I miss some good old fashion Manny being Manny action. Bother.

    But… tie game! Gotta love a tie game. I root for Boston, but I also root for the Leverage Index.

    TURBO strikes!

  193. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 9:27 pm

    How much of an M’s fan am I?

    I believe that Ibanez could have beat that out.

  194. AZ Ms Fan on May 27th, 2008 9:28 pm

    wow, i think lopez was halfway between 3rd and home before vidro even got to the bag.

  195. msb on May 27th, 2008 9:29 pm

    . Is Hatteburg viewed as some kind of super team leader? From what I hear, we don’t have one of those.

    from the Cincy paper today: “What they will miss is his presence in the clubhouse, his savvy and his willingness to share his experiences.”

    huh, Hatteburg got all of 52 ABs this season. of course, we are all speculating about something Gammons wrote…

  196. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 9:29 pm

    Something’s definitely not right in the universe when Jose Lopez has a higher average than Ichiro! yet in the final week of May.

  197. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:29 pm

    WTF Vidro, will you hustle please you p.o.s.
    That annoy anyone else how he just jogged to first base on what could have been a hustle single?

  198. James T on May 27th, 2008 9:32 pm

    It seemed that, reading between the lines, Hatteberg used to be a big time source for writers in Boston and elsewhere.

    And here’s that Earl Weaver argument I mentioned earlier:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl-4FSRYagc

  199. msb on May 27th, 2008 9:32 pm

    on what could have been a hustle single?

    um, we are talking about Vidro here.

  200. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 9:32 pm

    What’s weird is that Vidro did ge all those infield hits last year. Does he not want to hit 300 again?

    Maybe he knows that no matter how badly he hits, McLaren will still put him in the lineup until his option vests.

  201. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:33 pm

    WTF Vidro, will you hustle please you p.o.s.
    Making his option look more and more appealing.

  202. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:33 pm

    Lets go Morrow. >:)

  203. James T on May 27th, 2008 9:34 pm

    Kind of a tough assignment for Rowland-Smith, but that’s the job I guess.

  204. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 9:38 pm

    Eh, somebody needs to pitch to Ortiz. It’s not like anybody really wants to.

    Wow. Manny, the ball only needs to go about 410 feet or so. It’s ok if you don’t get it up to escape velocity.

  205. Jay R. on May 27th, 2008 9:39 pm

    He only has one pitch, but it is fun to watch sometimes.

  206. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 9:39 pm

    Phew. Nice, Morrow. Stop trying to make us feel a bit of hope about our club.

  207. naviomelo on May 27th, 2008 9:40 pm

    That strikeout was awesome.

  208. Swungonandbelted on May 27th, 2008 9:41 pm

    Nice, I think Morrow had a shot of “Hot Damn” before he came in the game :)

  209. James T on May 27th, 2008 9:41 pm

    BTW, you guys might like this one.
    That minor leaguer who was trying to set up the system where you could buy shares in minor league players was at a Sabr thing in Boston earlier this year. He said that one of the coaches on one of his teams had been a catcher who was in the AL while Edgar Martinez was there. This catcher told him that Edgar was absolutely impossible to deal with. The thing they came up with was to intentionally throw a breaking pitch out of the strike zone on the first pitch to try and see how he reacted to it. Did he shift his weight way to quick for that? Right on it? I guess the catcher’s theory was that he’d absolutely kill you if he was guessing right about what you’d throw and that he’d probably kill you if he just relied on reactions, see pitch hit pitch. But that you had some chance if you were going against his guesses.

  210. enazario on May 27th, 2008 9:42 pm

    When he is on what a beautiful thing to watch this kid is.

  211. scott19 on May 27th, 2008 9:43 pm

    OMG, Morrow!!

  212. Swungonandbelted on May 27th, 2008 9:43 pm

    Ok guys, Morrow bailed your butts out, time to score a few runs and win this thing

  213. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 9:44 pm

    A nice bit of WPA accumulation for Morrow there.

  214. Paul L on May 27th, 2008 9:44 pm

    I’m definitely rooting for Morrow, but there’s a morbid part of me that wishes Manny got a hold of one of those. The thing would land at midfield of Qwest.

  215. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 9:44 pm

    Can’t wait until Morrow get slid into the rotation.

    As for 1999. If Vidro had done like a tick above jog he would have beat that out. That was unacceptable.

  216. AZ Ms Fan on May 27th, 2008 9:44 pm

    [wow]

  217. James T on May 27th, 2008 9:45 pm

    Impressive.

  218. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 9:46 pm

    Woof!

    Double Woof!

    Every so often, you remember that baseball in Seattle can be a beautiful thing…even when you’re rooting for the home team.

  219. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 9:46 pm

    …and then, you wake up when you have to go back and take back a “U”.

  220. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 9:50 pm

    Hey Arizona, if you have to swap asterisks for real letters and pluralize with apostrophes, can you at least not do so in the same damn sentence? Okthx.

  221. AZ Ms Fan on May 27th, 2008 9:53 pm

    u forgot to put a space between your Okthx.

  222. James T on May 27th, 2008 9:55 pm

    How the hell has Varitek gone 3-6 with 2 homers off Putz? Talk about your examples of skewing by small sample size.

  223. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 9:57 pm

    I have this memory from, like, 2001, of an interview in SI with some random pitcher who’d ended up with Barry Bonds going about 1-17 off him, single, one walk, and they asked him how he did it. And he clearly had no idea. Sample size.

  224. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 9:57 pm

    Sims just said “Good to see JJ in there, getting some work.”

    Yeah…

    It’d be better if JJ was in there to try to get a save, though.

    pg

  225. CC03 on May 27th, 2008 9:57 pm

    God forbid they leave Morrow in for more than one inning. Wouldn’t want to build his arm strength too much.

  226. AZ Ms Fan on May 27th, 2008 9:58 pm

    So I take this as Mac is just putting Putz in there to give him some work because he does not think any save opportunities will come up any time soon, I mean, thats just a guess.

  227. jHUGE on May 27th, 2008 9:59 pm

    They will find a way to blow it. Looking forward to tomorrows headline which should simply read “PATHETIC”.

  228. G-Man on May 27th, 2008 10:00 pm

    Good throw nails him

  229. naviomelo on May 27th, 2008 10:01 pm

    Can you believe that JJ’s strikeout rate is the highest of his career this year?

  230. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 27th, 2008 10:02 pm

    How are the Ms even still in this?

  231. jlc on May 27th, 2008 10:03 pm
  232. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 10:03 pm

    225

    For real.

  233. jlc on May 27th, 2008 10:04 pm

    I don’t know why I have so much trouble with the link button.

  234. James T on May 27th, 2008 10:05 pm

    Sigh. And that’s the shortstop who comes in as a “defensive” replacement.

  235. G-Man on May 27th, 2008 10:05 pm

    Nice bunt.

  236. naviomelo on May 27th, 2008 10:05 pm

    Time to bring in Willie?

  237. James T on May 27th, 2008 10:06 pm

    Jeremy Reed for Betancourt who responds by throwing stuff in the dugout.

  238. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 10:06 pm

    Aw, Yuni. Come on, Reed, make this work.

  239. James T on May 27th, 2008 10:07 pm

    I’m not sure any manager really needs to do the righty-lefty thing with Timlin. He’s got nothing.

  240. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 10:07 pm

    roflcoptor! WPA on that successful sacrifice was negative. Scragedy!

  241. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 10:07 pm

    Alright, well, whatever. There’s Ichiro.

  242. marinersfan33 on May 27th, 2008 10:08 pm

    so if we don’t score here, cairo to short… reed to left… and ibanez to first? wow scary

  243. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 10:10 pm

    I would really, really, really think about bringing Papelbon in for this. It’s not like the LI is going to get any higher later. *worry* Gotta love the game, though.

  244. James T on May 27th, 2008 10:10 pm

    Nothing.

  245. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 10:11 pm

    *dies*

  246. Lauren, token chick on May 27th, 2008 10:11 pm

    J Loooooo!

    Yeehaw!

  247. James T on May 27th, 2008 10:12 pm

    I probably would’ve felt better about Hansen coming in than Timlin. He’s got very little movement on his pitches any more, it seems.

  248. Swungonandbelted on May 27th, 2008 10:15 pm

    Lopez!

  249. zzyzx on May 27th, 2008 10:15 pm

    Mariners win! Mariners win! Mariners win!

  250. pgreyy on May 27th, 2008 10:17 pm

    And the saddest thing is?

    I turned down tickets to see tonight’s game.

  251. Mothy on May 27th, 2008 10:17 pm

    Oh yeah! Here comes the winning streak! Mariners will win the West!
    Oh sorry, I think my pain medication has just kicked in.

  252. pumpkinhead on May 27th, 2008 10:21 pm

    Ah, nothing like watching a seemingly huge Manny homerun turn into a meaningless one!

    Go M’s!

  253. NBarnes on May 27th, 2008 10:23 pm

    You’ve won this game, Mariners! But we’ll be back! Oh, yes! Weeeeee’ll beeeeee baaaaack! *sucked into the dimensional rift to trouble Seattle nevermore(?)*

  254. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 10:23 pm

    its a win. And a exciting one too.

    251 – aahahahahahahaha

  255. PaulMolitorCocktail on May 27th, 2008 10:26 pm

    McLaren has a passing resemblance to a Sontaran.

  256. jlc on May 27th, 2008 10:26 pm

    “We always knew defense was our strong suit and now it’s starting to pay off for us.”

    Uh, does Mac think he’s managing the Sox, ’cause he can’t be talking about the Mariners?

  257. bradguy on May 27th, 2008 10:28 pm

    Nice to see the use of two bunts to create two runs.

  258. bradguy on May 27th, 2008 10:33 pm

    Baek traded to Padres for right-hander Jarrod Wells.

  259. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 10:43 pm

    Rotoworld says the Mariner are not happy with Yuni.

  260. Beniitec on May 27th, 2008 10:44 pm

    Wait, wait… we didn’t just win a playoff game, or even gain a game in our division! But we (the team) are excited because we didn’t lose!!! That’s priceless. More seriously though, great win fellas. I was glued to the screen for the first time this year. Yes the FIRST time. Well executed. Now can we get rid of Cairo and Richie? PLEASE. No offense Richie. I love you as a hometown guy…but you’re not hitting here. Props to Morrow. For the first time this year he pitched with gusto. How about JLO for comeback player of the year? Wait…it’s too early for that.

  261. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 10:45 pm

    258- I heard that where you reading it

  262. Beniitec on May 27th, 2008 10:48 pm

    Where are you seeing the info about Baek?

  263. msb on May 27th, 2008 10:53 pm

    So I take this as Mac is just putting Putz in there to give him some work because he does not think any save opportunities will come up any time soon

    the PI yesterday: “Concerned about the decrease in the velocity of closer J.J. Putz’s fastball, McLaren said he’ll work to have Putz pitch more often to keep him sharp.”

  264. et_blankenship on May 27th, 2008 10:54 pm

    Baek traded to Padres for right-hander Jarrod Wells.

    Wells is completely worthless.

    And props to the Cora family for that little gift in the 9th inning.

  265. msb on May 27th, 2008 10:57 pm

    the trade was mentioned on the radio side about 15 minutes ago

  266. msb on May 27th, 2008 10:59 pm

    and the SD paper put this up

  267. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 10:59 pm

    Amyone look at the stats on the guy? Looks like he was pretty good in the minors till he hit AAA Portland. Well, start the ticker over again. The M’s made a bad move today. And the Padre’s scored a pretty good replacement level guy. Helps them a tonn with all the trouble they have had with Peavy and Young in the IR this year.

  268. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 11:01 pm

    Man, I am sorry I left in the 7th to go to the gym for a while. It would have been a good 9th inning to watch.

  269. edgar for mayor on May 27th, 2008 11:09 pm

    Back to the Goatee conspiracy, Baek doesn’t have one, so…what does that mean?

  270. msb on May 27th, 2008 11:15 pm

    homer article about Wells the other day

  271. sealclubber253 on May 27th, 2008 11:21 pm

    270- that article is a little generous compared to his stats. It’s like saying “The Mariners have already won 19 games.” On the bright side. But, I guess I can’t hate the guy before I ever see him pitch. I am just a little disapointed we lost beak cause I liked him a bit. Of coarse, in 2 years no one will remeber Beak.

  272. ManageWA on May 27th, 2008 11:42 pm

    If only we had Heafcliff Slocolm to give the team that added push to get to the playoffs. That’s all the team really needs.

  273. Tom on May 28th, 2008 12:28 am

    Concerning 272:

    Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no.

  274. scott19 on May 28th, 2008 12:38 am

    I somehow just knew a rare gift was coming our way the minute Timlin entered the game…

    …And again, to quote Benny Hill, that is “one in a row!” :)

    McLaren has a passing resemblance to a Sontaran.

    Never thought about that, but yeah!

  275. BurkeForPres on May 28th, 2008 12:52 am

    Does that trade for Wells just seem like a moot point to anyone else? The teams with the two worst records in the bigs, and the worst in their leagues respectively, swapping middle relievers, who are one year apart in age?

    Pointless much?

  276. scott19 on May 28th, 2008 12:59 am

    Of coarse, in 2 years no one will remeber Beak.

    Au contraire, mon ami…for our Hated Rivals the Friars say they will be occasionally spot starting him there as well. Hence, I am fully expecting him to make one of those “spot starts” against us when we return to the Evil Empire San Diego in a few weeks…

    …When he will throw the first no-hitter of his major league career! :o

  277. Breadbaker on May 28th, 2008 1:42 am

    I think we have to look at the Baek deal with something of a fan’s theory of sunk costs. On May 27, there was no place for Baek on our roster and we got something for him.

  278. Mike G. on May 28th, 2008 1:53 am

    This gem from SOSH:

    I fucking hate the Mariners. I do. Its irrational but I hate them and Safeco and the Godawful baseball timezone these dispassionate ratfuckers play in. Fuck you Balentien and Lopez. Fuck you in your Salmon holes.

    Not sure why “salmon” is capitalized unless it’s some kind of derogatory reference directed at Tim Salmon. Poor guy.

    Oh Sox fans, don’t go changing.

  279. Rumpelstiltskin on May 28th, 2008 2:29 am

    Reed got the job done.

  280. Typical Idiot Fan on May 28th, 2008 2:44 am

    [sorry, that's way over the line]

  281. bratman on May 28th, 2008 8:38 am

    We need to win tonight in honor of Bret Boone and his failed comeback attempt with the Nationals.

    And to send BoSox Nation home crying. For once.

  282. msb on May 28th, 2008 8:54 am

    We need to win tonight in honor of Bret Boone and his failed comeback attempt with the Nationals.

    sounds like Boone has reached a good place, finally

  283. Karen on May 28th, 2008 10:34 am

    RE: #278: SoSH is one of the more profane Sox boards out there (they’re on a par with nomaas.org). About this time 2 years ago I got suspended for a year and a half for disagreeing with a ranting misinformed crazed SoSH newbie in a Red Sox vs. Mariners game thread there.

    JamesT and other Red Sox fans visiting here probably come from a more rational site.

  284. scott19 on May 28th, 2008 11:37 am

    278: Wow! And here I always thought we were so freaking irrelevant in the eyes of ESPN and other East Coast media hacks that we could never possibly warrant such vitriol…

    The idiot who wrote that, no doubt, probably thinks that all of us west of the flippin’ Appalachians still live in log cabins and eat barbecued squirrel as a regular part of our diets. :o

  285. et_blankenship on May 28th, 2008 12:14 pm

    The idiot who wrote that, no doubt, probably thinks that all of us west of the flippin’ Appalachians still live in log cabins and eat barbecued squirrel as a regular part of our diets.

    Actually, most people around Boston picture Washingtonians as a bunch of rain-soaked 145-pound, latte-guzzling, software engineering dorks who swap our short-sleeve dress shirts for flannels and knit caps on the weekends so we can properly bond with the trees and salmon.

  286. scott19 on May 28th, 2008 12:23 pm

    True…though I mostly think he was probably pissed off about having to stay up ’til 1 AM on a work/school night only to see his precious Sox lose the game, anyway.

  287. joser on May 28th, 2008 12:40 pm

    Benitec, #260: Props to Morrow. For the first time this year he pitched with gusto.

    That’s absolute crap. I assume you missed his May 12th performance? He gave up the winning home run, but he fanned the four batters he faced prior to that in 16 pitches.

    Actually, most people around Boston picture Washingtonians as a bunch of rain-soaked 145-pound, latte-guzzling, software engineering dorks who swap our short-sleeve dress shirts for flannels and knit caps on the weekends so we can properly bond with the trees and salmon.

    And that’s totally wrong, because we wear our fleece and knit caps to our software engineering jobs.

  288. Typical Idiot Fan on May 28th, 2008 12:49 pm

    Re 280, Mods

    Hmm… so that comment was no good huh? Good thing I didn’t go with my first thought. I stand by my statement that Boston Fans have lost their cherub like luster and have just become really damn annoying.

  289. DMZ on May 28th, 2008 12:53 pm

    Oh, I agree, but the wishing harm part’s a non starter.

  290. Typical Idiot Fan on May 28th, 2008 3:23 pm

    I wasn’t wishing them harm. I was wishing them death. Still, it wasn’t a serious comment, just an exaggeration of my disdain for them.

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