Game 66, Mariners at Blue Jays

DMZ · June 11, 2008 at 8:37 am · Filed Under Mariners 

0937h. Felix Hernandez v Shaun Marcum.

Wow. Scheduled to run on FSN. I mean, yay Felix and all, but that’s right at the start of the work day. How are we supposed to pull this off?

Bloomquist at third! Vidro batting third! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


264 Responses to “Game 66, Mariners at Blue Jays”

  1. msb on June 11th, 2008 12:40 pm

    Valle just said that Felix needed pitch a shutout to get the win today. 2-1 was the final right? This is why I can’t stand Valle, dumbass comments like that.

    hey, the run was unearned, so according to his ERA, it was a shut-out.

  2. Mustard on June 11th, 2008 12:43 pm

    Even better, I am listening to the Jays post game and there is some major anger coming in from fans. Glad to see we arent the only ones that are bitter about their team and management.

  3. msb on June 11th, 2008 12:44 pm

    Willie now has 55 plate appearances. Here are the results:

    9 walks
    7 hits (all singles, one infield single)
    1 reached on error
    19 ground outs
    6 pop outs
    1 fly out
    4 strikeouts swinging
    8 strikeouts looking

    but he brings energy and intangibles to the table!

  4. joser on June 11th, 2008 12:57 pm

    Drayer said Felix felt tired and asked to not come out in the 9th. Fine with me. The more Felix takes charge the better.

  5. Ralph_Malph on June 11th, 2008 12:57 pm

    if JJ is ok, wouldn’t it make more sense for him to go to Tacoma on rehab to get some regular throwing in to workk on his control rather than bringing him into games where he is likely to fail?

    He can’t go to Tacoma on “rehab” unless he goes on the DL first. If he is “ok”, why would he go on the DL? He can’t be optioned to AAA.

    The answer is I don’t think he’s OK. He’s got to be hurt in some way. I think he has guardaditis.

  6. crazyray7391 on June 11th, 2008 12:59 pm


    I didn’t realize that the run was unearned. I guess Valle’s comment makes more sense. Thanks for the correction, although I still don’t like him. 🙂

  7. jsa on June 11th, 2008 1:05 pm

    If you pull him from a game you can certainly put him on the DL-15, perhaps retro-active.

    Its interesting that this same scenario is how JJ got to be the closer in the first place, and now it seems we might waste Morrow in this role.

    I note that Dontrel was sent to Single A, so there are ways to do this stuff.

  8. DMZ on June 11th, 2008 1:07 pm

    If you pull him from a game you can certainly put him on the DL-15, perhaps retro-active.

    He has to be injured, though the M’s aren’t shy about making that stuff up when they have to.

    And you can only retroactively DL someone to the last time they made an appearance.

  9. jsa on June 11th, 2008 1:36 pm

    So it ends up being the 14 day or 13 day DL.
    I’ll take it.

    Since any saves he doesn’t blow are nail biters at best, he is no better than Joe Average Reliever right now.

    Either something is physically wrong, or he has lost his stuff, or he has given up.

    Make stuff up if they have to, (they just made their typical in game “for show” move), but seems like a rehab would be wise right now, he’s not the JJ we knew last year.

    How did Willis end up in Single A?

  10. Sentinel on June 11th, 2008 1:38 pm

    I’m really late to the show here, but I wanted to say a few things.

    First, I’m not sure how many walks the team has been averaging, but seven seems like a lot. Especially the two we got from Ichiro.

    2. Vidro went 2-3 from the three hole today. You have to figure that that is going to buy him another game there.

    #3: What a pitching gem of a game. Eight innings from The King (plus an 8:1 K/BB ratio), and a great game from Marcum. I wish I could have watched it.

  11. Rick L on June 11th, 2008 1:48 pm

    I actually like Morrow in the closer role. I think his steady diet of fastballs would get him shelled after about three innings of work. And his mechanics aren’t very good, so he would likely get injured as a starter.

  12. msb on June 11th, 2008 1:49 pm

    it was last March when he had the elbow strain, right?

    today it was ‘discomfort’ (hence the arm shaking after pitches) and hopefully not serious, though I assume they’ll run him through the MRI machine. It would be a nice convenient way to get him more work, once the elbow was cleared.

  13. msb on June 11th, 2008 1:56 pm

    How did Willis end up in Single A?

    do you mean how was he assigned, or, why Single A?

    they asked him, and he agreed to be sent down.

    “He was for trying to do anything necessary to getting him back to being the guy he can be,” Dombrowski said. “He also knew he wasn’t doing well and didn’t want to hurt his team.”

    why Single A?

    “We think it gives us the best support system,” Dombrowski said. “We have people there who can work with him … we think our best support system is there (Lakeland). It’s our headquarters. We have two (farm) clubs there and all our facilities. We really control the environment, so we think it is the best spot.”

  14. jsa on June 11th, 2008 3:34 pm

    >they asked him, and he agreed to be sent down.

    Why does this never seem to be an option in Seattle?

    Even when people pose the question around here someone points out that you can’t send the high salary guys to the minors.

    But clearly you can ASK them to go down, and that never seems to happen here either without an appearance on the disabled list.

    Queue a few bars of “Feelings”…


    And 261:
    I agree MLB hitters will figure out Morrow’s heat in a few innings if he were a regular starter.

    But I think the consensus around here is not to keep him riding pine for one inning every few days, but to send him to Tacoma where he can start every 5 days and master some additional pitches and control issues so that he would be somewhat less one-dimensional. (Which is not to say he’s totally a one pitch guy now).

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