Game 71, Marlins at Mariners

DMZ · June 17, 2008 at 6:05 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Olsen v Felix.

Day 2 of the Pelekoudas Era/Strasburg Hypothesis.

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99 Responses to “Game 71, Marlins at Mariners”

  1. jlc on June 17th, 2008 6:09 pm

    So it sounds from Baker like Kenji’s out and Clement’s in (though not tonight), and Burke is somewhere other than at the end of the Bedard battery. Along with the Ichiro change to RF, does this mean Bavasi was keeping a rein on Mac? Or does it mean that Mac knows his managing career is over at the end of the season and is expanding the dart board he’s using? I’m guessing the second one.

  2. pygmalion on June 17th, 2008 6:18 pm

    So it sounds from Baker like Kenji’s out and Clement’s in (though not tonight), and Burke is somewhere other than at the end of the Bedard battery.

    Maybe – just maybe – Vidro will be out for good? If that happens, then both Clement and Kenji can play 5+ games a week.

  3. jlc on June 17th, 2008 6:20 pm

    This reminds me of a great line from James Hilton:

    “There’s nothing worse than a scared optimist.”

  4. Steve Nelson on June 17th, 2008 6:28 pm

    Although not explicitly said in Baker’s entry, it looks as if Johjima is the primary DH once interleague play ends.

    With the way things are happening, though, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to hear that Johjima is working out in center field.

  5. pygmalion on June 17th, 2008 6:30 pm

    With the way things are happening, though, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to hear that Johjima is working out in center field.

    New outfield configuration: Reed – Joh – Ichiro!

    Awesome! Reed and Ichiro! would have to play in left-center and right-center respectively, but hey, uhm, well,…

  6. confess on June 17th, 2008 6:34 pm

    Also from Baker’s blog, it sound like Mac is talking like a real manager finally.

  7. ManageWA on June 17th, 2008 6:36 pm

    I don’t know if you can bury a game thread with just one post, but that fantastic analysis on GMs made this one at least close.

  8. Dave in Palo Alto on June 17th, 2008 6:38 pm

    Vidro drags his .327 slugging average into the three hole again tonight. It is to laugh.

  9. pygmalion on June 17th, 2008 6:54 pm

    Lineup (per Baker):

    51 Ichiro RF
    4 Jose Lopez 2B
    3 Jose Vidro DH
    29 Adrian Beltre 3B
    28 Raul Ibanez LF
    44 Richie Sexson 1B
    2 Kenji Johjima C
    16 Willie Bloomquist CF
    5 Yuniesky Betancourt SS

    Auto-optimization of the lineup, in three easy steps: Swap Vidro and Yuni, swap Bloomquist and Vidro, swap Betancourt and Ibanez.

    51 Ichiro RF
    4 Jose Lopez 2B
    28 Raul Ibanez LF
    29 Adrian Beltre 3B
    5 Yuniesky Betancourt SS
    44 Richie Sexson 1B
    2 Kenji Johjima C
    3 Jose Vidro DH
    16 Willie Bloomquist CF

    Still stinks. Second three step optimization: Swap positions of Ibanez and Vidro, swap Reed with Vidro, swap positions of Reed with Bloomquist.

    51 Ichiro RF
    4 Jose Lopez 2B
    28 Raul Ibanez DH
    29 Adrian Beltre 3B
    5 Yuniesky Betancourt SS
    44 Richie Sexson 1B
    2 Kenji Johjima C
    3 Reed CF
    16 Willie Bloomquist LF

    Even after six adjustments, still not very good.

  10. pygmalion on June 17th, 2008 6:54 pm

    Sorry that was really long.

  11. DMZ on June 17th, 2008 6:56 pm

    It was good

  12. Carson on June 17th, 2008 7:12 pm

    Ugh. Dave Valle.

  13. confess on June 17th, 2008 7:14 pm

    Sounds like we need to get some of that “chemistry” stuff.

  14. Rick L on June 17th, 2008 7:14 pm

    So why not put Clement in the lineup? Left handed pitcher?

  15. Carson on June 17th, 2008 7:15 pm

    Oh god. Shut the hell up, Niehaus.

    He just spent 30 seconds explaining how the Marlins are doing well because of ONE THING.. ONE! That’s right. Chemistry.

  16. joser on June 17th, 2008 7:22 pm

    So why not put Clement in the lineup? Left handed pitcher?

    That is the thinking (to the extent that word applies to any of the lineup decisions McLaren has made)

  17. NJ Ms on June 17th, 2008 7:23 pm

    would a bunt attempt by Turbo be better then him trying to hit the ball?

  18. killer_ewok18 on June 17th, 2008 7:23 pm

    … did our number 3 hitter just try to bunt with 1 out with a runner on second base?

  19. pgreyy on June 17th, 2008 7:23 pm

    Ahhhhhhhh yes, the Bunsen Burners are working early…

    Enjoy the sweet smell of Imaginary Chemistry, M’s fans!

    Ichiro + Happiness + Lopezitude = First Inning Run

  20. pygmalion on June 17th, 2008 7:24 pm

    Chemistry.

    You know, a lot of the time it is the same guys who like WFB who like chemistry. Maybe we could just constantly quote WFB against everyone who praises chemistry?

  21. Tree on June 17th, 2008 7:24 pm

    did I hear laughter in the background during the bunt attempt?

  22. NJ Ms on June 17th, 2008 7:25 pm

    yes then laughter after Turbo flailed at that last pitch

  23. Tom in Edmonds on June 17th, 2008 7:25 pm

    Vidro, The prince of DH….

  24. pgreyy on June 17th, 2008 7:26 pm

    Tree, as you know, laughter and tears sound very similar…

  25. Tree on June 17th, 2008 7:26 pm

    yeah, I wonder who those people are.

  26. pygmalion on June 17th, 2008 7:26 pm

    A hitter in the 3 hole bunting. Where have you gone, Salvador Dali?

  27. joser on June 17th, 2008 7:28 pm

    He just spent 30 seconds explaining how the Marlins are doing well because of ONE THING

    He kind of went off on interleague play on the radio last night, complaining about (among other things) the fact that unless you have a cross-town rival, you often get bad matchups. Which left me wondering what all the NL East teams think about facing the M’s this year (especially the Phillies, who don’t get a shot at three easy wins), and what we’re supposed to think about all those games against the Rangers and Kansas City over the years.

    Then he backed up a bit. And a little while later he was musing about going to Atlanta, a place he said he’s never seen a ballgame.

    But we gets the emeritus slack, so I won’t go any further. (I’m kind of looking forward to his next “SWUNG ON AND BELTED!….and it’s caught just short of the warning track.”)

  28. killer_ewok18 on June 17th, 2008 7:28 pm

    I think it’s safe to tune out now, we already got our two runs.

    According to Niehaus, two runs is a “party.”

  29. NJ Ms on June 17th, 2008 7:28 pm

    2 more days until playing in NL park…No DH less chance Turbo is in the lineup

  30. joser on June 17th, 2008 7:32 pm

    No DH less chance Turbo is in the lineup

    On the contrary, Lopez is already getting ready to pick the slivers out of his ass.

  31. NJ Ms on June 17th, 2008 7:40 pm

    WFB that is “chemistry”

  32. Lauren, token chick on June 17th, 2008 8:01 pm

    Felix is looking loverly this evening.

  33. Phightin Phils on June 17th, 2008 8:02 pm

    Does the new GM get to pick new announcers?

  34. killer_ewok18 on June 17th, 2008 8:02 pm

    I could kiss him.

    But I’m not at the game…

  35. joser on June 17th, 2008 8:02 pm

    Got that right. The Royal Curve makes an appearance.

    (Hey, Lauren sighting. Feeling better?)

  36. Lauren, token chick on June 17th, 2008 8:03 pm

    No need to distract him, ewok. He’s busy striking out the side and all.

  37. Lauren, token chick on June 17th, 2008 8:03 pm

    Yup, thanks. Well enough to drag myself into work, at least.

  38. JerBear on June 17th, 2008 8:04 pm

    He’s on fire tonight! Mixing his pitches well – I love watching him pitch like this!

  39. Jar on June 17th, 2008 8:05 pm

    Felix = stud.

  40. forte40 on June 17th, 2008 8:06 pm

    omg Felix!

  41. enazario on June 17th, 2008 8:06 pm

    Sweet Felix.

  42. JerBear on June 17th, 2008 8:06 pm

    9 pitches – 3 Ks. Freaking awesome.

  43. JerBear on June 17th, 2008 8:08 pm

    Ooohhh…gotta talk about Willie getting his uni dirty now. Cuz that’s what it takes to play in the bigs.

  44. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:08 pm

    There’s only one thing that could possibly make a game where Felix is pitching hard to watch, and that is Dave Valle announcing the game. He is terrible. I never thought I’d say this, but bring back Blow!!

    Oh yeah, long live King Felix!!

  45. enazario on June 17th, 2008 8:10 pm

    God we just have singles hitters. It’s hard to watch even when they are hitting.

  46. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:10 pm

    Ok Valle, if WFB couldn’t hit shit all season, then why in the world would the M’s give him “consistent at-bats”?

  47. JerBear on June 17th, 2008 8:15 pm

    A McLaren non-negotiable: If we’re lucky to get two guys on in a row w/no outs – Bunt.

  48. Lauren, token chick on June 17th, 2008 8:17 pm

    No, we have single hitters and the new improved J Lo!

  49. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:18 pm

    Love the way that Lopez has been hitting all year, if he could only learn to be a adequete defensive second baseman he would be amazing.

  50. Swungonandbelted on June 17th, 2008 8:20 pm

    Felix is just dealing tonight….wow.

  51. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:21 pm

    I don’t really know what Felix’s contract looks like, but if we are now building for the future, could we go and offer to lock this guy up long term? Please don’t let a talent like this go.

  52. enazario on June 17th, 2008 8:25 pm

    Felix is holding out. It’s not a foregone conclusion we can keep him.

  53. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:25 pm

    Crap, I was afraid of something like that. Do you know when his current contract is up?

  54. enazario on June 17th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Well I shouldn’t say he is holding out. But he has been coy about signing a long term contract.

  55. Jeff Nye on June 17th, 2008 8:32 pm

    That’s some pretty wild speculation to be bringing into a game thread.

  56. joser on June 17th, 2008 8:32 pm

    hey, bad fielding results in a run and it’s not against the M’s!

  57. enazario on June 17th, 2008 8:33 pm

    It was mentioned on KJR. So if it is speculation it’s not my speculation.

  58. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:35 pm

    55

    Sorry Jeff, my fault for bringing it up. I was trying to voice my opinion that we need to do all we can to hold on to this guy.

  59. JerBear on June 17th, 2008 8:35 pm

    Yeah! More of those run thingys. I like those. Naturally, they score a bunch of them for Felix on a night when he hardly needs them.

  60. pumpkinhead on June 17th, 2008 8:35 pm

    When Felix pitches, it never seems to matter what the M’s record is, or that post seasons hopes were squashed 2 months into the season. It’s just great to watch a master at work.

    Every 5th game M’s fans have something to look forward to, and it’s games like this that makes it worth being a hopeless M’s fan.

  61. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:38 pm

    When Felix pitches, it never seems to matter what the M’s record is, or that post seasons hopes were squashed 2 months into the season. It’s just great to watch a master at work.

    Completely agree. Felix is the most entertaining pitcher to watch since Pedro in his prime with the Red Sox. I don’t care that this team is shit, watching Felix mow down the opposition is a lot of fun. Also, it is fun to drink beers and cheer once and a while too.

  62. Joe on June 17th, 2008 8:42 pm

    Felix is under team control for another three years, IIRC. I think he goes to arbitration either this offseason or next (depending on whether he’s in the top 17% of service time amongst all the two-three year “tweeners”). But it shouldn’t come to that: these days most teams with a player anywhere close to Felix’s talent will lock him into a longer contract, buying out at least a few of those years. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bavasi firing puts the breaks on that. Ultimately he’s important enough to the team that it probably doesn’t matter — Lincoln and Armstrong should be smart enough to make sure the deal gets done regardless — but if I was Felix (or his agent) I think I’d be waiting to see if I liked the looks of the new regime before I decided on years and dollars.

  63. crazyray7391 on June 17th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Thanks for the info Joe. I’m with you, I think that Lincoln and Armstrong are going to have to show Felix that there is a damn good reason to stay with this team. That being said, I hope the moves that they make do prove to him that they are moving in a better direction.

  64. enazario on June 17th, 2008 8:45 pm

    He is supposed to be eligible for arbitration next week. What was said on KJR (it might have been Larry Stone) was that he was approached by Mariners but was not interested right now.

  65. enazario on June 17th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Argh. Sorry not next week, next year.

  66. ManageWA on June 17th, 2008 8:47 pm

    come on felix… get back to the groove

  67. forte40 on June 17th, 2008 8:52 pm

    With this game Felix is over 100 innings pitched for the season, is on pace to do better then last season. It seems he has been more consistent this year.

  68. naviomelo on June 17th, 2008 8:55 pm

    It has seemed that way, but aren’t his peripherals down from last year? I seem to remember reading that his GB% was way down near or below league average in 2008.

  69. forte40 on June 17th, 2008 9:00 pm

    whoops, meant to ask if he is on pace to do better this season.

  70. jlc on June 17th, 2008 9:03 pm

    Maybe we could hire someone from the Celtics. They might not know baseball, but at least they understand that defense is actually part of the sport they play.

  71. Joe on June 17th, 2008 9:03 pm

    He’s at 49% GB, which is below average for him, but not below average for qualified starters (which is currently ~45%). The trend is worrying, however.

  72. wlad on June 17th, 2008 9:09 pm

    I had a feeling Bloomquist wasn’t gonna get to that.

  73. oac001 on June 17th, 2008 9:14 pm

    bloomquist is pathetic. jeremy reed would’ve caught that.

  74. seadiv88 on June 17th, 2008 9:16 pm

    Attaway Richie. Way to move the runner. . .

  75. seadiv88 on June 17th, 2008 9:20 pm

    Can someone just tell Willie to crowd the plate, and pull a Don Baylor/Biggio.

  76. naviomelo on June 17th, 2008 9:32 pm

    Why is Reed sitting on the bench while Bloomquist is out there, anyway?

  77. seadiv88 on June 17th, 2008 9:35 pm

    They are showcasing Willie for a blockbuster trade. . . duh. . .

  78. Breadbaker on June 17th, 2008 9:37 pm

    I’m guessing Ichiro is going to beat Paul Waner’s record.

  79. TomC on June 17th, 2008 9:41 pm

    Somehow the guys who put that last graphic together failed to list Vidro’s achievments in this game.

  80. Breadbaker on June 17th, 2008 9:42 pm

    Is this the first save situation we’ve had since JJ went on the DL?

  81. edgar for mayor on June 17th, 2008 9:43 pm

    Vidro getting a slew of boo’s. Then again I guess they are easier to here when no one is at the ball park.

  82. Mothy on June 17th, 2008 9:45 pm

    Is this the first lead we’ve had since JJ went on the DL?

  83. Swungonandbelted on June 17th, 2008 9:46 pm

    WOW

  84. Milendriel on June 17th, 2008 9:49 pm

    Morrow is ridiculous.

  85. TomC on June 17th, 2008 9:49 pm

    Morrow was awesome. I hope that doesn’t mean they will try to keep him as a closer.

  86. Breadbaker on June 17th, 2008 9:49 pm

    Nice job, Brandon.

  87. naviomelo on June 17th, 2008 9:50 pm

    Morrow! That was brilliant!

  88. edgar for mayor on June 17th, 2008 9:51 pm

    My hopes of Morrow starting die inside as Morrow closese :( .

    Then again…that was just jaw dropping.

  89. Milendriel on June 17th, 2008 9:51 pm

    Okay, WTF @ that Ibanez interview. It takes 4 seconds to see he’s decidely worse against LHP.

  90. msb on June 17th, 2008 9:54 pm

    my goodness.

    leave the country for two days, and everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

    or, gets a lot better, depending.

  91. edgar for mayor on June 17th, 2008 9:56 pm

    Okay, WTF @ that Ibanez interview. It takes 4 seconds to see he’s decidely worse against LHP

    TV media for you…

  92. joser on June 17th, 2008 10:05 pm

    The Morrow after-game (radio) interview was hilarious.

    Question (paraphrased): “So how is it different coming in as closer, as opposed to being a setup guy? Is it different mentally for you? Do you have to prepare differently coming in in the 9th?”

    Morrow: “Yeah… I start warming up about half an inning later.”

    (He went on to actually answer the question, sort of, but that was brilliant)

  93. joser on June 17th, 2008 10:07 pm

    msb! I was getting worried. All this press and no linkages from you. Out of the country, that explains it. But between that and Lauren being sick, everybody was having to pull double pithy commentary duty.

    “Where are we going? And what are we doing in this handbasket?”

  94. edgar for mayor on June 17th, 2008 10:14 pm

    What is this win thing?

  95. msb on June 17th, 2008 10:46 pm

    I went to Victoria.

    Oddly enough, there was very little coverage of this in the papers or on the news.

  96. joser on June 17th, 2008 11:21 pm

    Well, everybody in Victoria gets all the Seattle channels so anybody who wants to follow the M’s can do it that way. With hockey season over and the CFL not quite started the Time-Colonist and the TV stations are going to focus on, well, not much of anything. It’s summer!

  97. msb on June 17th, 2008 11:52 pm

    Well, everybody in Victoria gets all the Seattle channels so anybody who wants to follow the M’s can do it that way.

    well, not at our hotel– besides, there was that fascinating story about the rehabbing Eskimos player to cover, not to mention TigerTigerTiger ….

  98. joser on June 18th, 2008 9:51 am

    Victoria is the retirement capitol of Canada. Golf is huge.

  99. mrg on August 5th, 2008 10:19 pm

    I know this is slightly pathetic and poor timed, but the individuals laughing at Turbo were my friends and I. We had gotten 3 tickets behind home plate from my friend’s brother’s ex-girlfriend and we just couldn’t contain ourselves after witnessing such a poor excuse for a bunt attempt. The next day at school, we discusses how we obviously were heard on the radio. One of us was going to register on here and claim the fame, but for some reason we never did. So for some reason, if anyone is looking back at old posts and is still wondering who the culprits are, now you know.

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