Game 72, Marlins at Mariners

DMZ · June 18, 2008 at 6:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

A game thread! Remember those?

Tucker v Dickey. 7:10. I’m sure all the lineup problems will be worked out.

Update: Yup! The worst hitter in the AL has been moved out of the three spot. Problem solved!

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143 Responses to “Game 72, Marlins at Mariners”

  1. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 6:17 pm

    I believe you made a error sir. *Marlins* ;)

  2. Jeff Nye on June 18th, 2008 6:23 pm

    No he didn’t, look again!

  3. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 6:27 pm

    No he didn’t, look again!

    *Gasp* A Sorcerer you are!

  4. jlc on June 18th, 2008 6:27 pm

    Baseball, grammar, and magic. This site has it all!

  5. AZ Ms Fan on June 18th, 2008 6:30 pm

    Hey clement is catching tonight! theres one highlight, but vidro is batting second, so says yahoo.com.

  6. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 6:33 pm

    Hey clement is catching tonight! theres one highlight, but vidro is batting second, so says yahoo.com

    Gameday as well. I don’t even know if Vidro can get one of those watcha call ‘ems. Productive outs. Lopez hitting third, we’ll see how that works out

  7. Jay R. on June 18th, 2008 6:36 pm

    I worried that Clement’s first game back was with a tricky knuckleballer, but then realized that he has been catching Dickey all season in Tacoma. Hooray for little bits of good news.

    Sure hope RA can dial it in tonight. Watching a knuckleballer who is on is really fun- at least when he is on YOUR team. The baffled looks and the shaking of heads on the way back to the dugout are sublime.

  8. SABRcat on June 18th, 2008 6:57 pm

    Maybe the reason for Dickey’s troubles is he doesn’t have his own personal catcher? Hooray Clement! (Fight on USC!)

  9. joser on June 18th, 2008 6:57 pm

    I always root for the knuckleballer, but I fear Dickey is just not a very good one.

    Scheduling weirdness: The AL West is playing the NL East in interleague this year, so can someone explain why the A’s are playing the Diamondbacks? I know the uneven number of teams in the leagues always makes for some weirdness (like that stretch where the M’s played the Expos a couple of years in a row) but that seems kind of random. Must make the Angels happy.

  10. forbin on June 18th, 2008 7:03 pm

    From now on, every game is huge. With 91 left to play, the M’s just need to go 91-0 the rest of the way to equal the 2001 franchise record for wins. The Mojo is rising!

  11. BurkeForPres on June 18th, 2008 7:10 pm

    10- That’s really funny because yesterday, after a few beers and not being exactly mathematically nor research inclined, I wondered if the Mariners could go the rest of the year without losing and match that record. Turns out it is exactly that.

  12. BurkeForPres on June 18th, 2008 7:12 pm

    And usually going to the National League and hitting with your pitcher instead of your DH at the plate is seen as a disadvantage, but I bet Felix could put up a better split if he had 4 at bats a game. I think Mariners pitchers vs. Pepe/Vidro is about a coin flip.

  13. Vortex on June 18th, 2008 7:14 pm

    How many times does “establish the fastball” have to fail before someone realizes it’s a poor strategy?

  14. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 7:20 pm

    Knuckleballers should not establish the fastball.

  15. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 7:21 pm

    In other news, I’m high on Hoegaarden and St. Bernardus thanks to the Taphouse!

  16. forte40 on June 18th, 2008 7:22 pm

    the knuckleballer already has two strikeouts.

  17. gwangung on June 18th, 2008 7:23 pm

    How many times does “establish the fastball” have to fail before someone realizes it’s a poor strategy?

    How long is the current Ms crew going to be in charge?

  18. msb on June 18th, 2008 7:25 pm

    one of the first moves of the new regime to come should be to ban mojo.

  19. BurkeForPres on June 18th, 2008 7:25 pm

    Anyone have any reason why Dickey’s LOB% is so low? I would say small sample size, but for his career it’s 67.2%. Interesting note: Silva has the 2nd worst LOB% in the league 61.9%. Is bad defense ever indicative of low LOB%?

  20. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 7:26 pm

    18… disagree. Rally fries must go first.

  21. BurkeForPres on June 18th, 2008 7:26 pm

    Holy crap Ichiro is stealing bases at a 94% clip? Why is he not running every time he gets on base? Even if it’s a triple?

  22. killer_ewok18 on June 18th, 2008 7:26 pm

    How does that count as a hit for Vidro? Was he even out of the batters box when Ramirez botched it?

  23. JimThomsen1965 on June 18th, 2008 7:28 pm

    Hanley Ramirez is just an unbelievably bad shortstop. How can the Marlins keep putting up with that?

    Two of Bloomquist’s “hits” this series were on ground balls that even Derek Jeter would have gotten to.

  24. JimThomsen1965 on June 18th, 2008 7:29 pm

    Holy crap Ichiro is stealing bases at a 94% clip? Why is he not running every time he gets on base? Even if it’s a triple?

    Can we please stop asking this … and just trust that Ichiro knows better than us when it’s time to run?

    (shakes head sadly)

  25. BurkeForPres on June 18th, 2008 7:31 pm

    My tongue was planted so firmly in my cheek when I said that, I almost punctured a hole to the other side of my face.

  26. Mothy on June 18th, 2008 7:35 pm

    Well, Clement struck out. Must not be ready for the bigs. Send him back down to Tacoma!

    (kidding of coure)

  27. JimThomsen1965 on June 18th, 2008 7:42 pm

    “Funk blast” should be DFA’s long before “Rally Fries OR “Mojo.”

  28. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 7:42 pm

    If the Yankees signed Ponson, surely we must be able to dump Washburn on them?

  29. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 7:46 pm

    Dickey needs to buy Ichiro! whatever he wants tonight.

  30. zDawgg on June 18th, 2008 7:47 pm

    Yankees signed Ponson? Man, they are hurting worse than I thought!

  31. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 7:48 pm

    Vidro get credited with a hit in the 1st…hand him 45 million dollars to stay for 3 more years!

  32. Tom in Edmonds on June 18th, 2008 7:51 pm

    Should Sexson get a hit scored also as Vidro did?

  33. killer_ewok18 on June 18th, 2008 7:59 pm

    Did Clement’s eyebrows get smaller? Did he shave them?

  34. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 8:09 pm

    Did Clement’s eyebrows get smaller? Did he shave them?

    …Besides the obvious weirdness of the comment, that is a weird thing to notice.

  35. mln on June 18th, 2008 8:10 pm

    “Funk blast” should be DFA’s long before “Rally Fries OR “Mojo.”

    The Mariners dumping “Funk Blast,” “Mojo,” or even (gulp) the beloved “Rally Fries”? That’s just crazy talk. ;)

  36. Tom in Edmonds on June 18th, 2008 8:12 pm

    Yea, that will help Richie’s trade value…

  37. cdowley on June 18th, 2008 8:14 pm

    R.A. apparently believes in “establish the fastball” a little too much, seeing as a knuckleball pitcher has only thrown maybe two dozen knucklers in eighty pitches…

  38. naviomelo on June 18th, 2008 8:21 pm

    95+ pitches in 21 plate appearances. Wow, talk about patient at-bats.

  39. joser on June 18th, 2008 8:22 pm

    This team is going to drive viewers to “So You Think You Can Dance”

  40. msb on June 18th, 2008 8:22 pm

    Marlin batters?

    These are the non-Felix pitchers.

  41. msb on June 18th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Dickey could have given up his own runs just as well, here.

  42. Breadbaker on June 18th, 2008 8:28 pm

    40: Felix/Morrow.

  43. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 8:28 pm

    I feel awful for R.A.

    I hope he is given one more start.

  44. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 8:32 pm

    Taking your grandmother to a Mariners game? That’s disrespectful.

  45. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 8:33 pm

    I have to admit: I have a ridiculously angry tirade against the rally fries that’s sat in draft status because every time I think about publishing it it’s a nice grandmother or some soldier back from Iraq and I’m only human.

  46. msb on June 18th, 2008 8:34 pm

    Sucktasticy?

    Sucktasticiosoty?

    Sucktooitiveness?

  47. OppositeField on June 18th, 2008 8:34 pm

    Thatta boy Clement!

    Aaaaand Richie DPs.

  48. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 8:34 pm

    PMC: she can’t see, they just tell her it’s an A’s game.

    I feel so awful for typing that.

  49. OppositeField on June 18th, 2008 8:35 pm

    I have to admit: I have a ridiculously angry tirade against the rally fries that’s sat in draft status because every time I think about publishing it it’s a nice grandmother or some soldier back from Iraq and I’m only human.

    If you, uh, if you need anybody to look over that draft for ya I’d be happy to volunteer.

  50. Phightin Phils on June 18th, 2008 8:36 pm

    This is the second night in a row that Sexson reacted to the ball being thrown to him at first as if he were afraid of it. Maybe he’s seriously going blind.

  51. BurkeForPres on June 18th, 2008 8:36 pm

    Is it possible Jeremy Reed has kinda figured out major league pitching? If so, I think he may have just solved our CF problem…

  52. Breadbaker on June 18th, 2008 8:36 pm

    One of those innings that shows the randomness of BABIP. Two balls hit hard but exactly at the wrong place.

  53. msb on June 18th, 2008 8:36 pm

    I have to admit: I have a ridiculously angry tirade against the rally fries that’s sat in draft status because every time I think about publishing it it’s a nice grandmother or some soldier back from Iraq and I’m only human.

    should we send some fraud down there with a good begging sign, to provide you with a proper target?

  54. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 8:38 pm

    Hey Reed is pretty good out there in Center.

  55. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 8:39 pm

    I wonder if a sign saying “GOT THE MUNCHIES – NEED RALLY FRIES” would get some attention?

  56. Breadbaker on June 18th, 2008 8:43 pm

    I’m glad they let RRS pitch another inning.

  57. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 8:45 pm

    I’m surprised that they remembered RRS was in the bullpen, since they seem to forget to call his name for weeks at a time.

  58. Breadbaker on June 18th, 2008 8:47 pm

    I imagine McLaren tells me “get me the guy with the hyphen.”

  59. Breadbaker on June 18th, 2008 8:47 pm

    not “me”, but “Mel”

  60. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 8:53 pm

    I imagine McLaren tells me “get me the guy with the hyphen.”

    Better than last year when he asked the “the reliever with the color as his last name.”

    I think they just picked a random one.

  61. confess on June 18th, 2008 8:56 pm

    Hey this Uggla guy’s not half bad.

  62. Dave in Palo Alto on June 18th, 2008 8:57 pm

    Uggla is good.

  63. msb on June 18th, 2008 8:58 pm

    when the boos begin to cascade on him again, I think about Richie asking to be traded …

    and then I hear Sydney Pollack’s voice in my head, saying “No, no, that’s too limited… nobody in Hollywood wants to work with you either. I can’t even set you up for a commercial. You played a *tomato* for 30 seconds – they went a half a day over schedule because you wouldn’t sit down.”

  64. MattThompson on June 18th, 2008 8:58 pm

    Well, we won’t see hyphen guy for a couple more weeks.

  65. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 9:02 pm

    I’m happy we don’t have to play the Marlins a lot. I look at the size of their payroll and compare it to the M’s and it makes me angry.

  66. msb on June 18th, 2008 9:06 pm

    RRS’s last outings:

    5/26 1.1 IP, 0 R
    5/27 .0 IP, 0 R
    6/6 1 IP, 0 R
    6/7 .2 IP, 0 R
    6/13 3.1 IP, 0 R
    6/16 1.2 IP, 1 R

    I think he is on a weekly rotation.

  67. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 9:06 pm

    Here comes a Richie DP.

  68. Mothy on June 18th, 2008 9:16 pm

    We really do find ways not to score don’t we? I’m a talent over character guy, but this team has neither. At this point I’d be happy with just one of the two.

  69. Pete on June 18th, 2008 9:18 pm

    Does anyone else find it to be a breath of fresh air that Clement takes pitches? I want to cry for joy when I watch him stand in on those close pitches.

  70. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 9:18 pm

    “Do they still think this season can be turned around …”

    What do you think, moron?

  71. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 9:19 pm

    Holy crap, this is the dumbest Valle monologue ever. As if the Mariners are going to get together and say “yes, we can compete this year with this set of personnel” despite having just fired their hitting coach, their GM, about to release their first baseman, and 200 games under .500.

    Ugh.

  72. enazario on June 18th, 2008 9:20 pm

    I have forgotten what it means to have power in your lineup. Remember the baseball of yore where your middle of the lineup is scary for the opponent pitchers? Whom do we have?

  73. MyOhMy on June 18th, 2008 9:22 pm

    I’m a little late on the “what must go first …” but I’m chiming in on the Dancing Grounds Crew but then I guess the grandma’s will stop coming to the games. Just rake the damn field and get outta the way …

  74. Mothy on June 18th, 2008 9:22 pm

    What do you think the chances are of any two Mariners hitting back to back home runs at any point in the rest of the season?

  75. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 9:23 pm

    I just want to see Clement crush something today. Thats all.

  76. enazario on June 18th, 2008 9:23 pm

    74 – Hmmm… I’ll take the over on that.

  77. John in L.A. on June 18th, 2008 9:24 pm

    Clement has two walks in one game? Witch!

    Throw him in the water and see if he floats!

  78. enazario on June 18th, 2008 9:27 pm

    Singles galore! Who hoo! I’m sorry I am so bitter.

  79. MattThompson on June 18th, 2008 9:28 pm

    Heh. Vidro has two hits in the same game. There’s your witch.

  80. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 9:28 pm

    This Vidro performance just extended his axing another 30 games

  81. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 9:29 pm

    Two on, so what?

  82. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 9:31 pm

    Baker has the crowd’s reaction to Richie coming up to bat in the sixth.

  83. enazario on June 18th, 2008 9:32 pm

    82 – Brutal. But he’s the one laughing all the way to the bank.

  84. _David_ on June 18th, 2008 9:33 pm

    So Ryan Tucker…What kind of prospect is he? He’s 21, throws hard, and is starting (albeit for the Marlins)…Is he any good?

  85. MattThompson on June 18th, 2008 9:35 pm

    An, um, interesting study would be a comparison of actual Mariners run production vs standard run expectancy for all of these situations.

  86. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 9:35 pm

    Wow, someone is making a movie about Mariners fans!

    Baghead

  87. Mothy on June 18th, 2008 9:36 pm

    In the picture that Gameday has, Dan Uggla looks like he’s about to kill someone. I imagine my face looks like that about now.

  88. enazario on June 18th, 2008 9:38 pm

    I know its not scientific but doesn’t it seem like Lopez has no range?

  89. JerBear on June 18th, 2008 9:41 pm

    PMC: she can’t see, they just tell her it’s an A’s game.

    I feel so awful for typing that.

    Hi-larious.

    Came in late on this one. I wanted to see Dickey start, but my wife and I had to go to childbirth class. Looks like I didn’t miss much.

  90. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 9:43 pm

    Wait wait wait.

    What did the Marlins just do? They replaced one of their players and moved another one over, but they’re not on offense. Is that legal?

  91. enazario on June 18th, 2008 9:44 pm

    90 – Pfft. Thats National League baseball. That’s not how we roll here.

  92. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 9:45 pm

    Are they allowed to do that in an AL park?

  93. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 9:45 pm

    Is it singles night?

  94. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 9:46 pm

    Another Sexson single. Stunning.

  95. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 9:46 pm

    HERE COMES THE BLOOM!!!!

  96. Mothy on June 18th, 2008 9:46 pm

    Oh yeah! A sexy singles machine! Thank you Pentland!

  97. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 9:46 pm

    What happened to Cairo’s team-improving presence? Did he only have five games worth before he had to be put back in his coffin for a couple weeks of recharging?

  98. Carson on June 18th, 2008 9:47 pm

    Oh, it’s SO ignition time, baby!

  99. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 9:47 pm

    What the hell is this?!
    Mac doesn’t pinch hit for Bloomquist or Johjima after the lefty leaves the game yesterday, but he does pinch hit today for a worse hitter.

    *Rips Hair Out*

  100. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 9:47 pm

    DMZ:

    I heard Cairo is interviewing for the GM job. He’s that versatile.

  101. Mothy on June 18th, 2008 9:49 pm

    I like how McLaren played this so that we now have a righty-righty situation instead of a lefty lefty situation when the lefty was the better hitter. A smart baseball move there.

  102. bratman on June 18th, 2008 9:50 pm

    Just came from the ball park – mixed bag of emotions here.

    Mainly: Depression.

    It was nice to see Reed play well and it was refreshing to see Clement behind the dish.

    This game was like watching paint dry.

  103. Carson on June 18th, 2008 9:50 pm

    edgar for mayor: Amazing how we just can’t start shrugging off the absence of logic, eh?

  104. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 9:52 pm

    Grit-tay

  105. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 9:52 pm

    Folks, we have ignition……

  106. Mothy on June 18th, 2008 9:53 pm

    Well I guess that’s why Mac is the big league manager and I’m the fan. I don’t know why I doubted him.

  107. Carson on June 18th, 2008 9:53 pm

    Oh, it’s SO ignition time, baby!

    I totally get to take credit for calling that. Right?

  108. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 9:53 pm

    Reed’s BA is .296….not .300, Mr. Valle.

  109. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 9:55 pm

    Valle’s used to rounding up batting averages.

    “Yeah, baby, I’m a .200 hitter…”

  110. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 9:55 pm

    edgar for mayor: Amazing how we just can’t start shrugging off the absence of logic, eh?

    Aye, I haven’t given up my brain just yet.

  111. tgf on June 18th, 2008 9:56 pm

    Not to worry folks, if we get 7 singles in a row next inning we can win this.

  112. bratman on June 18th, 2008 9:58 pm

    109 -

    That is hilarious.

    Question: Pete O’Brien or Richie Sexson?

    Sexson, please DFA ASAP. I can’t look at you any longer.

  113. BillyJive on June 18th, 2008 9:58 pm

    Someone call up Bucky Jacobsen..I need a reason to keep watching these guys…
    *sigh*

  114. enazario on June 18th, 2008 10:00 pm

    Beltre!!

  115. tgf on June 18th, 2008 10:04 pm

    Now we need 8 singles.

  116. enazario on June 18th, 2008 10:04 pm

    What sluggers do with meatballs down the middle.

  117. Go Felix on June 18th, 2008 10:05 pm

    Atta boy Corky!

  118. bratman on June 18th, 2008 10:05 pm
  119. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 10:06 pm

    Valle: “but” as a conjunction draws a contrast.

    Correct: “Dave Valle was a horrible hitter but played decent defense”

    and not a synonym for “and”

    Incorrect: “Dave Valle was a bad catcher but a bad color man on broadcasts.”

  120. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 10:07 pm

    Everytime Richie Sexson has a cold sore he plays well…not kidding.

  121. bratman on June 18th, 2008 10:10 pm

    Seattle Mariners 2008

    and I wish we had Oscar Gamble

    At least Barry didn’t come and wreck the chemistry

    I just want to laugh.

  122. edgar for mayor on June 18th, 2008 10:11 pm

    *Health up*

  123. MattThompson on June 18th, 2008 10:11 pm

    And. the apocalypse is now upon us.

  124. enazario on June 18th, 2008 10:11 pm

    Sexson is a bad hitter but plays a bad first base.

  125. Sports on a Schtick on June 18th, 2008 10:11 pm

    I’m pretty sure Vidro singling is a bad thing.

  126. killer_ewok18 on June 18th, 2008 10:11 pm

    Someone should do a study on the Mariners BMI. Our pitchers, especially. That, and Vidro’s neck-chins.

  127. tgf on June 18th, 2008 10:11 pm

    Everytime Richie Sexson has a cold sore he plays well…not kidding.

    All the talent lies with the Herpes virus.

  128. PaulMolitorCocktail on June 18th, 2008 10:12 pm

    WOOT OFF!!!!!

    And now back to the crappy game already in progress.

  129. bratman on June 18th, 2008 10:14 pm

    Seattle Mariners: Hindsight (I promise this is the best one).

    Sigh

  130. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 10:15 pm

    Game’s over, the spec I’ve been working on all day is complete… that’s a day.

    This team is ass.

  131. ManageWA on June 18th, 2008 10:16 pm

    I had surgery yesterday. Less painful than being a mariners fan.

    And doctors prescribe painkillers for surgery. I use them for games.

  132. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 10:16 pm

    Mmm… painkillers

  133. ManageWA on June 18th, 2008 10:17 pm

    129: HAH

  134. enazario on June 18th, 2008 10:17 pm

    Hey check out Kruger’s tie. That’s something.

  135. jlc on June 18th, 2008 10:21 pm

    129-Great. Mariners mission statement?

  136. enazario on June 18th, 2008 10:21 pm

    Hey how about a drink every time Bill K says “professional hitter”

  137. DMZ on June 18th, 2008 10:21 pm

    Also something: Kruger’s crazy rant about Ibanez, who is a run producer, a professional hitter, and steady, which like all players, he’s really not. Whatever, I’m sure it’s hard to fill that air time.

  138. Carson on June 18th, 2008 10:23 pm

    B-R only wants $65 per year to sponsor Sexson’s page. You have to figure that is a bargain for all the hits it’ll get when he is DFA’s.

  139. enazario on June 18th, 2008 10:25 pm

    Hey but the Angels and Oakland lost today so that is something.

  140. enazario on June 18th, 2008 10:29 pm

    Kruger – Chipper has never been a guy that hits for average. Hmmmm… Career average .310 OPS .956.

    That’s great research Billy.

  141. gwangung on June 18th, 2008 10:33 pm

    Kruger – Chipper has never been a guy that hits for average. Hmmmm… Career average .310 OPS .956.
    That’s great research Billy.

    Think he’s been infected by the great knowledge of stats that’s insinuated itself throughout the Mariners’ organization…

  142. Red Apple on June 19th, 2008 1:34 am

    Incorrect: “Dave Valle was a bad catcher but a bad color man on broadcasts.”

    Correct: “Dave Valle was a bad catcher but a worse color man on broadcasts.”

    Oh, how I’d love to read Derek’s rant on rally fries. Hint, please? Is it Bugs Bunny-esque?

  143. Mike G. on June 19th, 2008 3:55 am

    Valle is so bad as a color man that when Kenji is doing it in ten years IN Japanese it will make more sense.

    And while I’m here, Cairo starting for Valle is about the only situation where starting Cairo makes sense.

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