Game 78, Mariners at Mets

DMZ · June 25, 2008 at 3:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Batista v Maine, 4:10.

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121 Responses to “Game 78, Mariners at Mets”

  1. lineshotbasehitleftfield on June 25th, 2008 3:42 pm

    Maine has only pitched into the 8th in one of his 15 starts this year, but hasn’t really been chased early either.

    Batista not so much. He only has two starts where he’s given up fewer than 3 runs. $9,500,000 for this turd?!

    Are we paying him that because he’s 2nd in the AL in losses and walks, or because he’s last in WHIP?

  2. patnmic on June 25th, 2008 3:50 pm

    We’re paying Batista so we can be the first to get his books! Pitching is secondary.

  3. The Nickster on June 25th, 2008 3:53 pm

    Are we paying him that because he’s 2nd in the AL in losses and walks, or because he’s last in WHIP?

    Um,no. We’re paying him that because (until last week) Bill Bavasi was our GM. End of story.

  4. msb on June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm

    I was looking for the line-ups, and saw this important news.

    “The moneyline for tonight’s Mariners-Mets game in New York has moved about 10 cents toward the heavily-favored Mets since it opened.”

  5. cody on June 25th, 2008 4:00 pm

    C’mon, Batista, pitch like you are worth your salary!

  6. msb on June 25th, 2008 4:10 pm

    Reed & Clement both in the lineup

  7. jephdood on June 25th, 2008 4:14 pm

    Is it just me, or is Ichiro hitting WAY more fly balls than he typically does?

  8. wfan99 on June 25th, 2008 4:21 pm

    What a way to start the game…walk reyes. Gees I know we can’t field but gees and now he stole 2nd awful just awul…not a bad throw by Clement.

  9. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 4:21 pm

    Fangraphs says he’s hitting fewer than usual. I glanced at those figures when I was looking at his BABIP the other day.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1101&position=OF

  10. pgreyy on June 25th, 2008 4:23 pm

    Let me state the obvious: Tonight will not be nearly as fun as last night.

  11. okobojicat on June 25th, 2008 4:24 pm

    Actually jephdood is it just you. If you refer to this link you can see that his fly ball % on the year has gone down compared to previous years. His infield fly ball has actually gone up, by 3% over his carrer avg, which is a bad sign because those are obviously guaranteed outs.

    Ichiro’s biggest problem is that his line drive % is almost 3% points below his career average, which really isn’t a problem at all. So actually, his biggest problem is that everyone sucks behind him so they can’t drive him in.

    Also, from that link, Ichiro’s eye is better this year, or he’s being more patient…your call.

  12. Jake on June 25th, 2008 4:26 pm

    At least they’re playing upbeat surf shop music while replaying Felix’s injury.

  13. jephdood on June 25th, 2008 4:27 pm

    Okay. My bad. Here’s another:

    Is it just me, or does Batista suck more than he typically does?

  14. Slippery Elmer on June 25th, 2008 4:27 pm

    DFA MB

  15. RoninX on June 25th, 2008 4:30 pm

    Did Batista work out with HoRam in the off season or something. I know he has never been anything special, but geez.

  16. crazyray7391 on June 25th, 2008 4:35 pm

    Well, that didn’t take long. Thanks a ton Miguel.

  17. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 4:35 pm

    Pheewwww. Y’all need to take back just a wee bit of the Batista bile, now.

    And you know what I like? Ponies. They’re just so cute. Did you know that ponies are not baby horses? It’s true. For more information on ponies, consult your local library, or Wikipedia.

  18. RoninX on June 25th, 2008 4:37 pm

    Phew is right. Really Lauren? You don’t have a bit of that familiar “uh oh” cringe when Miggy takes the mound this year?

  19. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 4:38 pm

    Oh, no, I do (at least when I think about it), it’s just that hey, at least he got out of that inning.

  20. crazyray7391 on June 25th, 2008 4:38 pm

    Lauren,

    We wasted our offense last night, this is an insurmountable lead. Ok, ok, maybe it’s not that bad, but it sure feels like it.

  21. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 4:38 pm

    It’s sort of like giving Ral back a “u.”

    Or like rain on your wedding day: a little too ironic.

  22. jzalman on June 25th, 2008 4:39 pm

    Hey, it’s pretty impressive he only gave up two runs on that disaster of an inning, right? Right?

    Besides, not that it matters. Even Batista is just his normal self, we should win. M’s score 10 a game against the Mets!

  23. praetor on June 25th, 2008 4:39 pm

    good god, I’d rather have dickey pitch again today, batista is always more unpredictable than a knuckleball

  24. jephdood on June 25th, 2008 4:40 pm

    Holy cow is Dan Wilson horrible in the booth. Has someone told him yet that he’s supposed to provide INTERESTING insight and commentary? Instead of just spitting out old ballplayer clichés and/or repeating to me what just happened on the screen?

    “Adrian just swung at a pitch outside the zone there..”

    Wow. Thanks.

  25. crazyray7391 on June 25th, 2008 4:42 pm

    Aren’t baseball announcers supposed to explain what’s going on on the screen?

  26. praetor on June 25th, 2008 4:42 pm

    I read a good thing on espn, what the hell is bloomquist doing in the big leagues with 0 extra base hits

  27. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 4:42 pm

    HEY. Jeff Nye is adding stuff to my comments! And they weren’t even fake deletions!

    Also, seeing those Keystone Light ads makes me really thirsty. I’d forgotten how delicious that stuff was, but now that I’m prompted to remember, I’m thinking about giving up on the game and buying some right now. Unfortunately, unlike the ads, the whole store is likely not going to be stocked only with Keystone and Keystone Light.

  28. RoninX on June 25th, 2008 4:43 pm

    Has someone told him yet that he’s supposed to provide INTERESTING insight and commentary?

    When was the last time any of the Ms color men provided this? Lets not hold Danny Boy to a different standard. ;)

  29. DMZ on June 25th, 2008 4:43 pm

    Larry Dierker’s book has a great anecdote about that, where he’s doing television and he ends up asking the producers something like “So when you show a highlight of the second baseman going back to catch a ground ball, you want me to say ‘There’s Biggio going back and catching that ground ball’?”

    And the TV guys respond “exactly!”

  30. Jeff Nye on June 25th, 2008 4:44 pm

    HEY. Jeff Nye is adding stuff to my comments! And they weren’t even fake deletions!

    !!!

  31. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 4:44 pm

    Though I did quote Alanis Morissette in my post. Ugh.

  32. G-Man on June 25th, 2008 4:46 pm

    Beltre is amazing the way he thros across his body with speed and accuracy, but I keep expecting his arm to come flying out of the socket.

  33. Hustl504 on June 25th, 2008 4:46 pm

    Well, looks like it’s time to turn on the Dbacks-Red Sox game…

  34. G-Man on June 25th, 2008 4:48 pm

    The Dierker Biggio commentary reminded me of Bret Boone’s turn in the booth during the ALCS playoffs several years ago. He was nearly mute, which, given his personality, caught me totally by surprise.

  35. RoninX on June 25th, 2008 4:48 pm

    Well, looks like it’s time to turn on the Dbacks-Red Sox game…

    Hey, Wright will only come up another 3-4 times max this game. We ain’t out of it yet.

  36. Logger on June 25th, 2008 4:49 pm

    At this rate, David Wright will hit 9 HRs tonight. Wish he was on our team.

  37. praetor on June 25th, 2008 4:52 pm

    well poop

    at least he struck out their pitcher HA

  38. DMZ on June 25th, 2008 4:53 pm

    I think Lauren’s sulking. You knew this was going to happen after yesterday’s fake moderation brou-ha-ha… did you think it would happen right away?

    Of course not. But I think we’re done now.

  39. Tom in Edmonds on June 25th, 2008 4:53 pm

    Willie bunting for a double to break his streak on no extra base hits…

    Oh well, at least he’s on base.

  40. praetor on June 25th, 2008 4:56 pm

    BATISTA=FAIL

  41. praetor on June 25th, 2008 5:00 pm

    BATISTA=MEGA FAIL

  42. Tom in Edmonds on June 25th, 2008 5:02 pm

    Did Beltre’s arm come off?

    Can Lopez jump?

    Can we replace Batista?

  43. lineshotbasehitleftfield on June 25th, 2008 5:03 pm

    Funny thing is Batista’s actually going to improve his numbers this inning.

  44. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 5:06 pm

    Nah, I was talking to my boss. NOW I’m sulking. Alanis Morissette and Keystone Light. You got me good.

  45. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 5:08 pm

    P.S., I only had ONE fake deletion post and I stopped as soon as requested, so I hardly think I deserved THREE altered posts as vengeance. sulksulksulk.

  46. argh on June 25th, 2008 5:08 pm

    Funny thing is Batista’s actually going to improve his numbers this inning

    I’m pretty slow on a calculator. Are you sure?

  47. praetor on June 25th, 2008 5:09 pm

    BATISTA=MEGA MEGA MEGA Fail

  48. Lauren, token chick on June 25th, 2008 5:10 pm

    Oy. This might get even uglier than what we did to them last night.

  49. pgreyy on June 25th, 2008 5:11 pm

    Mudder of Mercy, is dis de end of Rico?

    (Babelfish translates Edward G. Robinson to English: Is this the last time we see Batista in an M’s uniform?)

  50. praetor on June 25th, 2008 5:12 pm

    Batista has been an average-below average pitcher for his whole career, he is getting older and he just can’t provide quality starts, I’m sorry, but Miguel, it’s time to SIT DOWN

  51. argh on June 25th, 2008 5:13 pm

    Pitching-wise the Mariners are definitely at the “shoot the wounded and leave the dead” part of this year’s campaign.

  52. praetor on June 25th, 2008 5:14 pm

    is corcoran even any good? or does the organization have one of their inexplicable attachments to him?

  53. lineshotbasehitleftfield on June 25th, 2008 5:15 pm

    The most depressing part about today is Reyes is on my fantasy team–and I didn’t play him. EPIC FAIL.

  54. praetor on June 25th, 2008 5:15 pm

    you know, it’s sad that I don’t consider the 8-0 score as very bad

  55. argh on June 25th, 2008 5:18 pm

    Eight runs on 5 hits is pretty funny though.

  56. MattThompson on June 25th, 2008 5:20 pm

    What’s funny is three outs on six pitches. Funny, or depressing, one of those.

  57. Breadbaker on June 25th, 2008 5:26 pm

    This reminds me so much of Washburn against the Tigers at Safeco a couple of weeks ago, where Mac left him in just long enough to dig the offense into a hole it couldn’t escape. So far, Riggleman has seen Batista essentially pitch batting practice for his last 2-2/3 innings (including Saturday when he couldn’t get an out). DFA is too kind for him.

  58. pgreyy on June 25th, 2008 5:27 pm

    Yes, let’s not interrupt JJ talking about Pearl Jam to witness the first hit of the game or anything.

    Bad television, bad!

  59. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:27 pm

    well, yesterday’s walk home was a lot more fun.

    so, not much of an audition for the NL for Batista, here.

  60. joser on June 25th, 2008 5:32 pm

    Yeah, tune in to discover the Mets have a 99% win expectancy and the game isn’t half over. Sigh. The M’s doing their best to undo the bias the last couple of nights put into their Pythag.

  61. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:33 pm

    and no beer in the house, either.

    hmm. there is the little split of cheap chanpagne from the Clipper…

  62. DMZ on June 25th, 2008 5:33 pm

    I spent the game doing password resets and site work.

    Why? Because I love each and every one of you. Okay, not each and every one of you. Most of you. Most of the time.

  63. joser on June 25th, 2008 5:35 pm

    As a closer, Batista has been this year’s Mateo. But even at the height of the Rick White-Parrish-Mateo insanity nobody asked those guys to start.

  64. DMZ on June 25th, 2008 5:36 pm

    CAIRO FTW

  65. Breadbaker on June 25th, 2008 5:36 pm

    In Bizzaro World, the Mariners offense tonight consists of WFB, Reed and Sexson.

  66. Breadbaker on June 25th, 2008 5:37 pm

    If his ankle weren’t hurt, we’d be calling for Felix right here.

  67. joser on June 25th, 2008 5:37 pm

    Is there like a college wold series game on, or something? Wait, I think the Euro cup match gets rebroadcast at 6. I don’t even remember who is playing but it’s got to be better than this…

  68. Breadbaker on June 25th, 2008 5:38 pm

    More Bizzaro World, as Cairo comes through.

  69. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:38 pm

    and we love you too. in fact, you should have a beer, too.

  70. joser on June 25th, 2008 5:39 pm

    And the WE is up to 5%. Cairo and Bloomie combined to quadruple the M’s win expectancy.

  71. pgreyy on June 25th, 2008 5:39 pm

    An Ichiro salami would have made tonight a lot more fun…

    Agreed?

    Wait. What did I just say?

  72. joser on June 25th, 2008 5:40 pm

    Felix with a bad ankle is still a better hitter than half this team.

  73. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:40 pm

    Wait, I think the Euro cup match gets rebroadcast at 6. I don’t even remember who is playing but it’s got to be better than this…

    wonder if the Euro Cup replay will have the missing finale from this afternoon’s broadcast….

  74. Breadbaker on June 25th, 2008 5:41 pm

    Felix with a bad ankle is still a better hitter than half this team.

    If that were the sole issue, I’d let him hit. It’s just that healing his ankle is far more important than winning any game this season.

  75. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:42 pm

    Is there like a college wold series game on, or something?

    if Georgia doesn’t pick it up, Josh Fields will be well rested and ready to join the M’s bullpen by tomorrow.

    well, once they get that peky contract signed.

  76. DMZ on June 25th, 2008 5:45 pm

    I am having a beer! However did you know.

  77. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:46 pm

    ooh, RJ vs Wake on ESPN2

  78. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:50 pm

    someone else we love is Larry Stone.

  79. msb on June 25th, 2008 5:55 pm

    summit meeting at 1st base there. I love how they keep talking about how Delgado has lost range, lost bat speed, has aged so rapidly– and don’t think to apply the same thoughts to Sexson.

  80. msb on June 25th, 2008 6:08 pm

    Talking to myself and feeling old …. hmm hmm hmmmmmm hm hm ….

  81. Paul on June 25th, 2008 6:08 pm

    I hate it when I come to a baseball site and my taped enjoyment of Euro 2008 gets spoiled.

  82. Rick L on June 25th, 2008 6:09 pm

    Reed now leads the club in batting.

  83. msb on June 25th, 2008 6:22 pm

    without a starting pitcher, they’d be winning this game.

  84. Steve T on June 25th, 2008 6:25 pm

    The ponies worked better when I thought they were baby horses.

  85. msb on June 25th, 2008 6:28 pm

    I hate it when I come to a baseball site and my taped enjoyment of Euro 2008 gets spoiled.

    well, it isn’t the whole of the 2nd half … “the signal initially went down for six minutes in the 76th minute of the match, then “there were a couple of more interruptions”

  86. Breadbaker on June 25th, 2008 6:30 pm

    A double-switch. Woohoo. “Stategery.”

  87. msb on June 25th, 2008 6:30 pm

    The ponies worked better when I thought they were baby horses.

    ponies are scrappier than baby horses.

  88. Jeff Nye on June 25th, 2008 6:32 pm

    I didn’t know that Lauren was such an Alanis Morrisette fan.

  89. naviomelo on June 25th, 2008 6:33 pm

    At least we’re outhitting them!

  90. naviomelo on June 25th, 2008 6:33 pm

    I just realized that the bullpen didn’t give up any hits in 5 1/3 innings.

  91. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 6:36 pm

    Whohoo Vidro and his bad knee.

  92. argh on June 25th, 2008 6:36 pm

    We must have some bullpen people ready to start by now — we’ve been stretching them out since April.

  93. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 6:41 pm

    Angie: What in the world happen to Miguel Batista today Bill?

    Me: Uhhh than same thing that happens every time he goes out there.

  94. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 6:42 pm

    Angie: Where is Bloomquist at in his development? Is he ready to be a everyday player?

    Dear lord…

  95. argh on June 25th, 2008 7:02 pm

    Angie: Where is Bloomquist at in his development? Is he ready to be a everyday player?

    “On this team, or in the major leagues?”

    [rimshot]

  96. cdowley on June 25th, 2008 7:09 pm

    Here’s a doozy of a headline from the team site: Sottlemyre offers hitting expertise

    Crap

  97. msb on June 25th, 2008 7:10 pm

    Angie: Where is Bloomquist at in his development? Is he ready to be a everyday player?

    there was an ernest discussion on the radio side during the game about Willie getting a chance to play and show what he could do, as if he’d never had such a chance before.

  98. cdowley on June 25th, 2008 7:11 pm

    Rick L said:

    Reed now leads the club in batting

    Not quite yet, Lopez is still technically ahead because of that weird qualification thingy. I think if he can keep up this pace for another week or so he will be tho.

  99. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 7:15 pm

    there was an ernest discussion on the radio side during the game about Willie getting a chance to play and show what he could do, as if he’d never had such a chance before.

    2005 and 2006. I saw WAY too much of Bloomquist those years. I really hope he does leave the team after this year. I am really getting tired of the man crush on Bloomquist around here.

    Who is our next Bloomquist? Cairo? Morse? Is Cairo going to get a 3 year extension.

  100. naviomelo on June 25th, 2008 7:17 pm

    there was an ernest discussion on the radio side during the game about Willie getting a chance to play and show what he could do, as if he’d never had such a chance before.

    I can’t believe people are talking about this like someone’s been keeping Willie from having a fair chance at a job. He’s a .260/.316/.325 hitter in 1,164 career at-bats.

  101. Jeff Nye on June 25th, 2008 7:21 pm

    Clamoring for more playing time for Willie definitely falls under the “be careful what you wish for, you just might get it” category.

  102. cdowley on June 25th, 2008 7:21 pm

    Who is our next Bloomquist? Cairo? Morse?

    If Morse can come back healthy, I’d fully support him as the Next Willie (But Better).

    Not that I think Willie is THAT bad… sure, he doesn’t get many (OK, few to none) extra base hits, but his definition is that of a *singles* hitter who can play anywhere and not hurt your defense, plus provide speed and energy. Looked at that way, and he’s a fairly decent ballplayer.

    *prepares to get ripped by the WFB haters here*

  103. naviomelo on June 25th, 2008 7:24 pm

    Morse has no defensive value at all and can’t steal any bases. I don’t see how he could be the “next Willie”.

  104. sealclubber253 on June 25th, 2008 7:33 pm

    Morse has no defensive value at all and can’t steal any bases. I don’t see how he could be the “next Willie”.

    Plus, he might hit a homerun or at least get an extra base hit more than once a decade.

  105. cdowley on June 25th, 2008 7:34 pm

    I wouldn’t say that he has no defensive value. He’s at least an average defender at the corner outfield spots, ditto for the corner infield spots (for cryin’ out loud, he hurt himself making a play that Raul wouldn’t have been close to trying to make), and at least should be able to not embarrass himself in the middle infield (was drafted as a shortstop, remember).

    I’d say the only places he can’t play are CF, C, and P. His lack of speed is made up for by his bat, which would be an asset off the bench.

  106. DMZ on June 25th, 2008 7:36 pm

    As authors, I think we’ve been pretty consistent in a couple of things:
    - Willie’s a fine back-of-the-roster pick. As a 25th man, he’s great.
    - The positive attention he gets is far out of proportion to his value and sometimes is really annoying.

    I don’t know why that ever gets a “hater” label. I don’t know Willie. He seems like a nice enough guy. I don’t bear him any ill will.

  107. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 7:41 pm

    The positive attention he gets is far out of proportion to his value and sometimes is really annoying.

    That my buff. I don’t know Bloomquist as a person (I know his sister though she is my dentist) But I know Bloomquist as a player and I am just sick and tired of having to here the announcers, and fans push for Bloomquist to be a everyday player.
    I’m also tired of seeing his face in the line-up everyday. Like I said, to personal buff with the guy, but he is a bad player and shouldn’t playing everyday.

  108. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 7:42 pm

    Like I said, to personal buff with the guy, but he is a bad player and shouldn’t playing everyday.

    No personal buff*

  109. DMZ on June 25th, 2008 7:45 pm

    buff?

  110. sealclubber253 on June 25th, 2008 7:49 pm

    Well, he poaches clams, and thats pretty cool. Not as cool as clubbing seals though…

  111. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 7:56 pm

    buff?

    Yeah buff = problem. I guess it slang.

  112. joser on June 25th, 2008 8:05 pm

    You mean “beef” I think, not “buff“?

    I didn’t know that Lauren was such an Alanis Morrisette fan.

    Isn’t it ironic?

  113. cdowley on June 25th, 2008 8:21 pm

    I don’t know why that ever gets a “hater” label. I don’t know Willie. He seems like a nice enough guy. I don’t bear him any ill will.

    Didn’t say that you were a hater, Derek. However, I don’t think it can be denied that there are more than a few folks that post here that seem to with the anti-Willie venom that starts dripping out of my screen whenever I read a post they make about him.

    As for why he gets do much more positive attention than he deserves (a fact that I heartily agree with), it probably has to do with the fact that he’s one of those likeable, high energy scrappers that our announcing team loves so much. That he’s local probably helps, too.

  114. Tom in Edmonds on June 25th, 2008 8:32 pm

    Also, back of the rooster # 25 buff hunk of beef is all we have to field at this pathetic point in Mariner time. That is why he is playing and filling in quite nicely of late. Hopefully we can make a decent trade with him soon.

  115. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 8:44 pm

    Hopefully we can make a decent trade with him soon.

    Hahaha. I could pitcture the day Willie Bloomquist gets trade. I will be watching a re-run on FSN and scrolling across the bottom will be this…

    Breaking News! Super utility player William Paul Bloomquist has been traded to the (insert dumb team here) for (insert omg we actually got something back here). Press conference at 2pm. Friday the 24th against the Oakland Athletics at SafeCo field has been designated “Remember Willie Night”. The first 25 Thousand fans get a Willie Bloomquist bobble head. Tickets are limited. Breaking News! Super…

    Yeah that would be funny

  116. naviomelo on June 25th, 2008 8:48 pm

    If you’re going to play Mike Morse in the outfield, he is a below average hitter. Career .300/.365/.397 hitter in 300 AB. The average 2008 LF is hitting .264/.341/.432 and RF is hitting .272/.343/.446. We don’t have nearly enough of a sample size to get any defensive metrics, but just from observing, he definitely looks below average to me. Comparisons to Raul Ibañez are not the same thing as comparisons to league average. Dave has said before that Morse is a below average offensive player. There are a lot of players with the a similar skillset to Morse hanging around in AAA waiting to get a job.

  117. edgar for mayor on June 25th, 2008 8:59 pm

    I am a big fan of Morse and I know he is horrid in the OF.

  118. BillyJive on June 25th, 2008 9:38 pm

    115- I would much rather see this…

    Breaking News! Sexson and Vidro designated for assignment. In other news…Miguel Batista is retiring from professional baseball to write his memoirs…

    I see things are back to normal…
    *sigh* oh well…we won a series…
    Go M’s!

  119. Breadbaker on June 25th, 2008 10:28 pm

    Batista says he’s been throwing (but not pitching) through back spasms all year. Note to Miguel: it’s called the DL, get on it so someone who can actually throw strikes, other than those that end up in the stands in fair territory, can be called up to take your place.

  120. Steve T on June 25th, 2008 10:50 pm

    Willie is now in FOURTEENTH PLACE on the “most AB to start a season without an XBH” list.

    That’s not venom, it’s just reality. He can’t hit at the major league level.

  121. Jeff Nye on June 25th, 2008 10:56 pm

    Didn’t say that you were a hater, Derek. However, I don’t think it can be denied that there are more than a few folks that post here that seem to with the anti-Willie venom that starts dripping out of my screen whenever I read a post they make about him.

    I’m probably the closest that this place gets to “anti-Willie venom” and even I make a point of pointing out that he adds value as long as he understands his role and doesn’t go mouthing off to the press about what a great injustice it is that he isn’t a starter (which he has to his credit backed off on the last season and a half or so).

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