Selected exchange from yesterday’s post-game post-post discussion
DMZ · July 9, 2008 at 8:00 am · Filed Under Mariners
DKJ:
Any chance the FO is hoping Vidro, et al. will rip off a couple of XBHs, like Richie’s anomaly last night, and get some drunken and/or deluded team to give TWO bags of balls for one of these guys?
Steve T:
There isn’t a team in MLB that doesn’t have a big fat file on Vidro, full of completely black pages like the one in Tristram Shandy. He could hit four home runs tomorrow and Pelekoudas’s phone wouldn’t ring.
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So Steve T is essentially saying that Pelekoudas, no matter what kind of cock and bull story he could come up with about Vidro’s professional-hitterosity, could never unload Vidro, even for a bag of balls? Sounds about right. Steve T is wise.
I figured it was something akin to DKJ’s theory, that is, maybe they could get something, perhaps just someone willing to relieve the M’s of a few bucks worth of the salary liability they owe him. But bat cleanup? I guess he gets better pitches with someone like Betre behid him than Sexson or Reed, but really.
OK, so why is he playing and batting fourth? Seriously, now.
Seriously, people, a bucket of five dozen baseballs costs EIGHTY FIVE DOLLARS. There isn’t a team in baseball that would give that up for Vidro. He’s not worth it.
Strasburg.
Here’s a thought that I slid into a P-I column they may or may not print–maybe they are letting Vidro and Sexson play out the season just to be polite? Let them retire on their own terms? The way they did with Edgar?
I know I’m grasping at straws here but I’m as befuddled as everyone else.
Probably not. They tossed a lot of other players overboard for poor, career-end performances. Edgar had a huge amount of organizational goodwill that Vidro/Sexson don’t.
So you’re saying they’re probably not going to name a street after Vidro when he goes?
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I have a better shot at getting my name on a city street near Safeco, doing my 7-3:30 for the State.
I’ll admit though, I am on the M’s bandwagon for life! Imagine how sweet it will be when we finally have a good FO, team, and a Championship!
No, but a really expensive dead end alley might be in the cards if the city has a sense of humor.
Cairo and Johjima both have a lower OPS, though I suppose hitting isn’t their only job…
How about one of the excellent potholes on Occidental? The Vidro Crater has a nice ring to it.
This is pretty sad for Vidro as well. Unless he is preternaturally stupid, he will be aware of how bad he is. But he can’t quit because the funny money in his contract is his livelihood.
I used to really like Vidro back when he was in Montreal. He was one of those players that had to work very hard to become a productive player – which he was for a few years.
But as with all players of his ilk – the dearth of natural athleticism results in fewer peak years and an early drop off.
The Mariners would be doing him a favor by cutting him.
this team really is a joke
Plus, y’know, Edgar was still really good, right up to the last year. His last four years, he posted OPS+ of 160, 139, 141, 92. The 1500 ABs immediately preceeding his last year were productive ones. There was no long-term trend of getting worse.
With Sexson, it’s 144, 117, 84, 90. That’s three years since he was really productive, and two years since he was marginally productive. That’s a long-term trend going in the wrong direction.
For Vidro, it’s 104, 96, 109, 56. Fifty six! That’s three years of terrible production (for a DH), followed by dropping off the cliff. Both the long and the short term are bad news here.
By way of comparison, Olerud’s last four years with the M’s: 136, 140, 95, 85 (pretty close to Sexson, except Olerud played good defense). For Boone: 114, 140, 94, 85. They were a couple of years older than Sexson and Vidro however (but didn’t have quite the same injury history either).
Nobody…I repeat…NOBODY wanted Vidro three years ago when Washington was shopping him. They couldn’t give him away until BB came along. Why would anyone want him now? Why are the M’s DHing and hitting 4th someone that no other sane team would offer a bag of balls for?
Baseball Fever! SoMojo style! I feel sick!
I suggest that we reserve the next landslide on Magnolia for memorializing Vidro. We can dub it the Jose Vidro Collapse. The next major windstorm should be set aside for Sexson. That would be the Richie Sexson Blow.
FWIW, McGrath has taken up the ‘why are they still playing’ banner, and has been flying it pretty much every other column…
I think we should retroactively name either the 520 floating bridge or the Alaskan Way Viaduct for him. Both were useful in their day, but everyone has known they were past their prime and needed replacing for a while now.
I nominate the former Embarcadero Freeway in San Francisco. Nobody wanted it in the first place, it collapsed in the 1989 earthquake, was never rebuilt and is missed by none.
Hey…maybe the 520 bridge should go to Vidro to memorialize his OPS this year!
Any baseball analysis that winds in a reference to Tristram Shandy is just flat out cool. Once, while driving across Ireland, I heard a cool radio documentary on Laurence Sterne, the author, and how he was a big influence on Samuel Beckett and especially James Joyce.