Game 98, Indians at Mariners

DMZ · July 20, 2008 at 12:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Lee v Silva, 1:10 pm.

M’s activate Putz from DL, option Rowland-Smith to Tacoma. There’s two possibilities here – either the club is sending him down in order to stretch him out and bring him back in August as a starting pitcher (woohoo!) or the M’s are the worst organization ever. I’m going with A, but this year has made B much more believable.

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79 Responses to “Game 98, Indians at Mariners”

  1. beastwarking on July 20th, 2008 12:16 pm

    Apparently Ibanez’s defense is also underated

  2. sass on July 20th, 2008 12:36 pm

    I dunno, but I think it would involve a frozen water and a certain nether region…

  3. Benne on July 20th, 2008 12:50 pm

    Apparently Ibanez’s defense is also underated

    It’s hard for me to get angry at a Jim Street column, since his job is basically to be the M’s cheerleader, but man, what a terrible article. Outfield assists? Really?

  4. galaxieboi on July 20th, 2008 1:14 pm

    Apparently Ibanez’s defense is also underated

    Well, he is on his way to establishing a at least 5 year high in RZR. He’s actually 3 of 6 in qualified leftfielders.

    I’m certainly not going to argue he’s a good fielder, only that hopefully, pieces like this will fool other front offices.

  5. HamNasty on July 20th, 2008 1:15 pm

    I am about to watch the game. Which means I am to depressed to think of a good message but it would go something like, Putz back why not Morrow down? RRS already stretching out at majors. Insert own witty sarcasm or hateful Mariners FO comments.

  6. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 1:16 pm

    Sims just alluded to the possibility that RRS may be back in couple of weeks as a starter as well. I certainly hope this is the case (i.e. bye-bye Washout and/or Rhodes).

  7. CC03 on July 20th, 2008 1:16 pm

    Vidro and Johjima given ABs over Clement, lol.

    Screw this team.

  8. PaulMolitorCocktail on July 20th, 2008 1:18 pm

    If they’re not going to use Clement, just trade him to a team that will use him.

  9. galaxieboi on July 20th, 2008 1:19 pm

    Johjima I can understand. They just gave him a new deal, and hope that he’ll hit his way out of this slump.

    Trotting Vidro out there though is really indefensible.

  10. galaxieboi on July 20th, 2008 1:22 pm

    Speaking of Johjima, his BABIP is still sitting at .220. With an 18% LD that’s stupid unlucky, my friends. He’s either going to pick it up this year or have a decent come back next.

  11. galaxieboi on July 20th, 2008 1:28 pm

    Woot. Nationals and Padres are both winning.

  12. mike on July 20th, 2008 1:31 pm

    RRS will start in Tacoma

  13. awolfgang on July 20th, 2008 1:33 pm

    Well this game is not being carried by MLB Extra Innings, so don’t bother calling Directv if you are out of market and are pissed off they are not on. This sucks. Go Mariners.

  14. galaxieboi on July 20th, 2008 1:35 pm

    Hey, only 27 pitches to get through that one.

  15. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 1:42 pm

    Hey, only 27 pitches to get through that one.

    Ah, Carlos…impressively padding out those HOF stats (rolleyes).

  16. enazario on July 20th, 2008 1:44 pm

    Turbo speed!

  17. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 1:44 pm

    You know it’s sad when even Extra Innings has given up on the M’s.

    Speaking of miracles, Turbo with an RBI on an infield single…

  18. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 1:52 pm

    Oh, crap…and here I thought Silva might hurl a shutout today, too.

  19. praetore on July 20th, 2008 1:54 pm

    what happened to reed? haven’t seen him for a while even with lhps

  20. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 1:56 pm

    And now Cairo with a hit? Quick, look out the window and see if the locusts have arrived!

  21. praetore on July 20th, 2008 1:57 pm

    I wonder what the chances of silva ever throwing a no-hitter are… especially with his mentality of “i’ll throw this here and see where they hit it”

  22. praetore on July 20th, 2008 1:59 pm

    that would be great if ichiro converted into some kind of power hitter, because the power is there

  23. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 2:00 pm

    I wonder what the chances of silva ever throwing a no-hitter are

    Probably about as likely as that of a white Christmas in Honolulu.

  24. forte40 on July 20th, 2008 2:07 pm

    What a surprise, Silva is “injured.”

  25. HamNasty on July 20th, 2008 2:07 pm

    Silva sure has a way of getting himself out of the jam, just let them clear the bases.

  26. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 2:08 pm

    Well, now it’s Silva’s turn to go on the DL…

    Wonder if they can call RRS back up in the middle of the game?

  27. killer_ewok18 on July 20th, 2008 2:08 pm

    Silva has to leave with an injury.

    And by injury I mean he’s hungry.

    P.S. Edit function!!! Yay!!!

  28. HamNasty on July 20th, 2008 2:09 pm

    Forte40- By “injured” you mean hungry, right?

  29. BillyJive on July 20th, 2008 2:10 pm

    Well..that’s the ballgame…I’m gonna go down to the Sizzler and see if Silva can give me some tips on my slider…

  30. abender20 on July 20th, 2008 2:11 pm

    Here’s the conversation-

    Rick Griffin: “Hey Carlos, you don’t look so good. Is it your elbow?”
    Silva: “I saw a fan eating a hamburger. *gets animated* I didn’t know we HAD those here. ”
    Griffin: “You know you just gave up a 3 run homer to Kelly Shoppach right?”
    Silva: “… I mean, you could probably put the garlic fries right inside the bun with the meat!”

  31. dsmiley on July 20th, 2008 2:11 pm

    Can we get a pitcher to stay in a ballgame already? They can’t be truly injured this often. What ever happened to a winning attitude?

    That ball was hit pretty hard, but I’m pretty sure it didn’t hit Silva on the way out.

    “Riggleman! I hurt my pride! Take me out of the game!”
    “Silva, we can’t do this every time you–”
    “It works for Bedard.”
    Long pause.
    “Hit the showers.”

    PS. This post has been editted…just because I can. This is sweet!

  32. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 2:12 pm

    I think Silva heard the Old Country Buffet was setting dinner out at 3pm, so he wanted to make sure he got out there in time.

  33. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 2:17 pm

    Can we get a pitcher to stay in a ballgame already? They can’t be truly injured this often. What ever happened to a winning attitude?

    Apparently, that Bedarditis is contagious.

  34. BillyJive on July 20th, 2008 2:21 pm

    Did anyone really want Silva to stay in the game anyways??
    When Batista or Silva are pitching I say..Bring on the Bullpen As Soon As Possible!!!

  35. BillyJive on July 20th, 2008 2:23 pm

    Wow, I blinked and missed the Mariners whole inning of at-bats…

    Man this team really sucks…

    *sigh*
    Go Mariners…
    Ha..I love this edit feature..I added really before sucks..

  36. Corey on July 20th, 2008 2:24 pm

    People will hit it there until Raul can show he will track that down. Sheesh. :(

  37. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 2:25 pm

    Gee, if Corcoran throws four or five decent innings of long relief today, I wonder if he’ll be “rewarded” for his effort with a demotion to Tacoma as well?

  38. pygmalion on July 20th, 2008 2:27 pm

    You know, I’ve found that the best strategy for games started by Batista or Silva is to tune in about 75 minutes after the game has started. Usually the bullpen is already in and the only question is which individual players to root for. There’s no false hope about winning the game.

  39. galaxieboi on July 20th, 2008 2:28 pm

    I love it. Silva gets ‘hurt’ and the Sizzler jokes ensue. Dark Lord, please bless USSM.

  40. Resik73 on July 20th, 2008 2:29 pm

    I can’t frickin’ believe that Cairo, Vidro and WFB are in the game!! At least get LaHair and Clement in the game. The administration in the organization is idiotic. I’m still trying to get my head around why the M’s would trade Adrian Beltre. Is Matt Tuiasosopo really that good and ready to go down in Tacoma? Who would they put there…WFB? Really, LaHair should be starting almost every game at 1B, Balentien is getting hot again and should be called up and inserted in LF with Ibanez at DH and splitting time in LF. Johjima could DH and get some time at C. Drop Cairo, Vidro and Burke (even though he’s done okay) bring up Balentien, Tuiasosopo and maybe Hulett, Redman or whatever and let’s see what these kids can do.

  41. Resik73 on July 20th, 2008 2:32 pm

    RRS should get a couple of starts before we trade Washburn to some national league chump team that thinks they’re still in the playoff hunt and he can come back and start. Then they can put Morrow down at T-town to start some games. No, wait…that makes too much sense to happen.

  42. BillyJive on July 20th, 2008 2:33 pm

    Is their shortstop actually worse than ours?

  43. BillyJive on July 20th, 2008 2:43 pm

    I just found myself yelling ‘Vidro is up to bat..Gawd this sucks..why am I watching this?’ To which my girfriend just replied..’I dunno..why don’t you go mow the lawn!’
    hmmm…

    Go Baconator!!!

  44. BillyJive on July 20th, 2008 2:45 pm

    wow…
    screw it..I’m going to go mow the lawn..
    Enjoy the game people…

  45. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 2:47 pm

    Well, since Corcoran’s line was a little stinky today, I guess he’s earned the right to retain his spot on the major league roster.

  46. HamNasty on July 20th, 2008 2:53 pm

    Wait, people have a clear line of sight at the owners box and nothing has been done??

  47. pensive on July 20th, 2008 2:58 pm

    Anyone skipping work for the Wednesday game?

  48. Breadbaker on July 20th, 2008 3:01 pm

    Apparently we’re not holding JJ out for a save situation. We may not get one in the second half.

  49. BlackHaloBender on July 20th, 2008 3:14 pm

    Does anyone know if pitch control is a born-with, work-hard, or can-be-trained kind of skill?

  50. jzalman on July 20th, 2008 3:18 pm

    I’m only watching on Gameday, but Putz looked pretty good didn’t he? Touched 97, mixed in all his pitches, good movement. How did he look, you know, in real life? I mean, it was Blake, Peralta, and Shin-Soo Choo after all.

  51. CC03 on July 20th, 2008 3:21 pm

    Johjima is so ridiculously bad.

  52. abender20 on July 20th, 2008 3:23 pm

    Johjima should be required to bunt no matter the situation he steps up in, unless there are two outs or no one is on. Otherwise, he bunts every time.

    Advancing a runner is always better than getting him doubled off.

  53. BlackHaloBender on July 20th, 2008 3:31 pm

    He Ibananezed it.

  54. Breadbaker on July 20th, 2008 3:35 pm

    Jim Street is starting his “Cairo is a serious power hitter” column.

  55. Breadbaker on July 20th, 2008 3:47 pm

    Is there a term for hitting into three double plays akin to the silver sombrero?

  56. killer_ewok18 on July 20th, 2008 3:59 pm

    A nice, solid loss.

  57. itea on July 20th, 2008 4:06 pm

    galaxieboi said:

    Speaking of Johjima, his BABIP is still sitting at .220. With an 18% LD that’s stupid unlucky, my friends. He’s either going to pick it up this year or have a decent come back next.

    Even if his BABIP was .292 (like the last couple seasons), he’d be having a poor season. His line would be something like .275/.319/.370 (giving him 15 more hits with a couple doubles). He probably has been a bit unlucky, but he’s also had a complete power outage this season, and he’s never been a walker.

    The extension is looking really, really terrible. Johjima has hit worse than Vidro, Cairo, and much worse than Sexson. He’s at the age where a bounceback probably isn’t as likely as the possibility that he’s never going to be league-average again.

  58. bdunn02 on July 20th, 2008 4:07 pm

    A and B are not mutually exclusive. Just sayin’.

  59. Sports on a Schtick on July 20th, 2008 4:18 pm

    Willie, Vidro and Cairo combined for eight hits? F that S.

  60. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 4:36 pm

    Not sure if anyone else was listening to the radio toward the end of the game, but Rizzy got into talking about Red Sox Nation, mentioning how there are Red Sox fans who follow the team all over the country because they “often can’t get tickets in Boston”.

    Um…yeah, Rick. While it’s true that there’s always a contingent of fans who do follow their team wherever they go on the road, I think probably the bulk of Red Sox “Nation” who shows up for this upcoming series will most likely be from such faraway “New England” locales as Everett, Federal Way, or Kirkland…

    …And most of them were “die-hard” Yankee fans five years ago! >:(

  61. James T on July 20th, 2008 4:44 pm

    If you can verify previous yankee affiliation, please report those people. We don’t want ‘em as Red Sox fans. Jumping on the Red Sox bandwagon is bad enough. Hopping off the yankee bandwagon to get there is heinous.

    And, yes, it’s not easy to get Sox tickets. The games are all sold out. But the ticket agencies have plenty of tickets and you can still buy ‘em for less than the cost of plane tickets. That “I had to fly out here to see the Sox” excuse is a load of crap.

  62. galaxieboi on July 20th, 2008 5:08 pm

    He probably has been a bit unlucky, but he’s also had a complete power outage this season, and he’s never been a walker.

    Agreed. But these two things say a couple of things to me. Like I mentioned, he’s been a little unlucky. Also, perhaps we’re talking about an injury here? He’s driving the ball almost the same(LD% last 3 years: 19.0, 20.1 and 18.3%), but his HR/F is down to 3.9%(!!). The last two years it was 10.8 and 9.2. That would seem that while he’s making solid contact, there’s some kind of arm injury preventing him from getting some serious extension. Hell, he’s even making contact at a slightly higher rate this season.

    He’s certainly not an old man, even by catcher’s standards. I will listen to any arguments either way at this point though. I’m not trying to convert anyone to the “JOH RULEZZZ!!!111one” bandwagone by any means.

  63. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 5:30 pm

    59: Totally agree, James. I know there are legit fans who will do just that, either because they: (a) actually are true die-hards who love their team so much (and have the time and money to do so) that they follow them around all season; (b) pick a city their team is playing in, and then plan their vacation around that particular series while also seeing the other sights that are there; or, (c) get tickets in another city because they actually are difficult to come by (the case of Maple Leaf fans “taking over” Buffalo’s arena every time the Leafs play the Sabres there always comes to mind — since it’s next to impossible to get tickets at the ACC in Toronto for home games during hockey season).

    With all due respect, Fenway probably now has the fewest number of seats these days of any MLB park — and given the ticket demand, I could definitely see where that would be an issue. But, yeah, I agree, it seems like it’d still be cheaper through Stub Hub or someplace like that to get tickets.

    And yeah, these idiots who keep jumping from bandwagon to bandwagon with absolutlely zero loyalty drive me up a wall as well. Just wait and see how many of these clowns will be on the Cubs bandwagon next year if they, heaven forbid, should happen to win the NL pennant!

  64. killer_ewok18 on July 20th, 2008 6:02 pm

    Speaking of wagons, the Rockies’ bandwagon sure derailed… (Do wagons derail?)

    Remember when the Rays were good? It seems like just yesterday they were in first place. Too bad they suck now. /sarcasm

  65. cdowley on July 20th, 2008 6:08 pm

    Oh, crap…and here I thought Silva might hurl a shutout today, too.

    Oh, he did hurl a shutout… haven’t you ever had a Shutout Dog? They come back up within three hours, guaranteed ;)

    Looking at the box score, not at all sad that I space cadeted the start time for this game…

  66. RallyFried on July 20th, 2008 6:40 pm

    Willie, Vidro and Cairo combined for eight hits? F that S.

    I smell contract extension!

  67. scott19 on July 20th, 2008 7:00 pm

    Willie, Vidro and Cairo

    Hey, that could almost be a name for one of Willie Nelson’s side projects. :)

  68. msb on July 20th, 2008 7:12 pm

    it wasn’t the best game, and it was dang cold up on the thrid level if you had no sunshine, but it was baseball.

    kinda. sorta.

  69. IHaveALittleProject on July 20th, 2008 9:02 pm

    Speaking of the Red Sox, I was at the game today and discovered there’s a new, well-stocked rack of Red Sox player t-shirts in the Mariners team store. When did this final blow to our team’s dignity happen?

    Why not just charge an extra few bucks for the average bobblehead-loving train-collecting Mariner fan at the gate instead of going for the prideless money grab of selling another team’s gear?

    I don’t know which is worse – the fact that they’re promoting a different, well run team in stark contrast to their own, or that the average Mariners fan will probably pick up a Big Papi t-shirt because he seems like a real good clubhouse guy?

  70. cdowley on July 20th, 2008 10:49 pm

    67: It was the same when I was there for the Tigers series last month (don’t ask me why I went to the Tigers series, I’m still not sure why to be honest…). I think they always put out a few things to make the visitors happy.

  71. joser on July 21st, 2008 10:41 am

    Yeah, there are always some opposing gear rolled out for the upcoming series. A buck’s a buck. Why should dignity have anything to do with it? (And when is there any dignity associated with a store anyway?) You do realize that the M’s make the same amount of money no matter which team’s logo is on it? When a Yankees jersey is sold in Nowhere Idaho the M’s make just as much money as the Yankees do.

    In fact, if people are going to buy Tigers (or Yankees or Red Sox or whatever) gear I’d rather they bought it at the team store rather than over the internet or in Detroit or wherever, since then the sales taxes goes to our city and state.

  72. IHaveALittleProject on July 21st, 2008 11:19 am

    To me, its like selling Omaha steaks at a mom and pop butcher shop. I would like the Mariners to be proud enough of their brand to not sell the competing team’s product, regardless of the profit margin.

  73. Jeff Nye on July 21st, 2008 11:20 am

    Every team in MLB does this.

  74. IHaveALittleProject on July 21st, 2008 11:22 am

    Not true. There isn’t another team’s gear in either New York stadium or at Fenway, for example.

  75. Jeff Nye on July 21st, 2008 11:34 am

    I’m pretty sure they’re all supposed to (as joser points out, merchandising is done on a pretty collective basis), maybe it’s not something that gets policed all that much by the league, though.

    In any case, I don’t think this is the integrity issue you want it to be; a lot of people who live in Seattle are transplants from other areas, and I don’t see anything wrong with them being able to buy a jersey for their “home team” when that team comes to Safeco.

  76. IHaveALittleProject on July 21st, 2008 11:43 am

    Shrug, difference of opinion then I guess. I just don’t like seeing more visitors gear being worn at Safeco than home gear, which seems to happen when the Red Sox or Yankees come to town.

  77. Jeff Nye on July 21st, 2008 11:55 am

    While I can sympathize with the sentiment, I’d imagine that very few of those people bought that stuff at Safeco.

  78. IHaveALittleProject on July 21st, 2008 11:59 am

    I think you’re right on that…there are plenty of overly passionate transplants who already have plenty of Red Sox stuff to wear to the game.

    I suppose what made me cringe when I saw the gear was that it seemed like a Mariners-sanctioned extension of the “invasion” that happens when those teams come to town.

  79. joser on July 21st, 2008 12:17 pm

    From my experience they’re mostly not transplants. The guys with the beat-up old “B” hats, sure. But the loudest ones wearing the most gear have probably never set foot in Boston, or did so only on a visit. And they have a bunch of Yankee gear in storage dating back to 1996-2000 (notice how there seem to be fewer NY fans at M’s games now, and more Boston fans?) If the Cubs win this year and go on to dominate the NL Central and return to the WS a couple of times and otherwise look like a “winner” these people will ditch their Red Sox junk for Cubs paraphernalia. They are obnoxious twits but I have no problem with anyone, including the M’s, trying to take as much of their money as possible and having their sales taxes pay for local things.

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