Game 105, Mariners at Rangers

Dave · July 28, 2008 at 4:05 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Felix vs Feldman, 5:05.

Happy Felix Day!

If Felix can shut down the Rangers tonight, it will be his most impressive performance since last year’s one hitter in Fenway. This Texas line-up is just unbelievably scary, especially at home. Their team OPS while playing in Texas is .880. Their worst hitters at home hit like our best hitters on the road. And, even better, their offense is heavily left-handed, with serious home run power from that side. Felix’s biggest problem is still getting left-handed hitters out.

It’s 100 degrees in Texas tonight, by the way. So he’s facing a monster offense full of the type of hitters that he does worst against in an environment where the ball will be flying off the bat.

The degree of difficulty for this start is off the scales. In Felix We Trust, but tonight, I have slightly tempered expectations.

Comments

102 Responses to “Game 105, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. Axtell on July 28th, 2008 4:14 pm

    Texas has been ignored by the national media nearly all year (Hamilton’s showing at the home run derby not withstanding). They are scary good on offense, but, as usual, their pitching is terrible.

  2. srp on July 28th, 2008 4:14 pm

    Trying to look on the bright side, Feldman doesn’t seem anything too special, with low K/9 and high BB/9, but then again, he gets to face a much less than “unbelievably scary” line-up.

    OK, looking on the bright side didn’t work too well.

  3. _David_ on July 28th, 2008 4:15 pm

    prediction: 5 innings, 115 pitches, 3 R, 2 HR, we lose 9-1.

  4. IndieSnob on July 28th, 2008 4:18 pm

    Here’s hoping he can dominate. Oh, and to add to the pleasure they are running out a Vidro free lineup!

  5. Newsless in Chicago on July 28th, 2008 4:20 pm

    Anyone notice (say over at fangraphs) that going into tonight’s game, Felix is our current leader in both pitching and hitting WPA? Ah, the irony! Such a well-constructed lineup we have.

    Felix’s one swing of the bat (the grand salami) was worth more in win probability to the club than all the plate appearances of any of our hitters, Vidro not withstanding!

  6. msb on July 28th, 2008 4:20 pm

    tomorrow with Silva vs. Texas should be swell.

    [shudder] Kelley is now video blogging

  7. DMZ on July 28th, 2008 4:22 pm

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooO

  8. walkie83 on July 28th, 2008 4:32 pm

    [deleted, excessive stupidity]

  9. FelixIsGod on July 28th, 2008 4:38 pm

    100 degrees??? Ichiro has something to say about that hot weather

  10. walkie83 on July 28th, 2008 4:39 pm

    haha.. i see how it is. How about this…

    Felix is a very good #2 starter.. I hope he reaches his potential and become one of the best starters in the league one day.

  11. scottiedawg on July 28th, 2008 4:42 pm

    Depending on how you define “ace”, and considering he’s in the top 15 in the Majors in both WPA/Li and FIP, he might already be one. And the best thing is everyone, along with you, agrees that he hasn’t reached his potential.

  12. FelixIsGod on July 28th, 2008 4:44 pm

    I agree with scottiedawg…….and he is our number one that is for sure…I will be very very mad if they bring Bedard back at make him the no. 1 starter again. That would be a slap in the face to Felix

  13. Newsless in Chicago on July 28th, 2008 4:47 pm

    For those of you not inclined to peruse Kelley’s attempt at web-based multimedia (per the comment above), here’s a brief summary:

    1)The Mariners all suck.
    2)Ichiro won’t speak English and that’s a major problem for the M’s.
    3)It’s Bedard’s fault (because he is supposed to pitch injured) that Bavasi got fired.

    And that is a wrapup of my FIRST and LAST ever trip to Senor Kelley’s happy place on the web.

  14. Jeff Nye on July 28th, 2008 4:50 pm

    King Felix is already one of the best pitchers in MLB.

    If you’re disappointed that he isn’t THE best, at 22 years old, then that’s a problem with you, not with him.

  15. walkie83 on July 28th, 2008 4:54 pm

    I’m just sad that he is stuck on a team that will likely not win for a number of years .. and by the time the M’s may have a chance, they will have to start paying him a ton to keep him.

    sigh… the front office makes it difficult .. but I still love this team. Sometimes I wonder why…

  16. MG8222 on July 28th, 2008 4:55 pm

    Agreed Jeff Nye……In Felix We Trust!

  17. Eric Walkingshaw on July 28th, 2008 5:03 pm

    Hm, this is most unsettling. On much of the internet, I use the username “walkie”. In fact, it is my username here (though not my display name, obviously). Though I was born in ‘84, not ‘83, clearly I’m of about the right age to be confused with this mysterious Felix-bashing walkie83. So, let me take the time to clear things up:

    Hello Internet,

    My name is Eric Walkingshaw and I love Felix Hernandez, ace of the Mariners. I wear 34 on my softball team, went to almost every one of his home starts in ‘05 and ‘06 (before I moved), and risked a New York beat-down cheering wildly as he hit his grand slam at Shea Stadium off of Johan Santana. I don’t celebrate his birthday yet, but I may start next year.

    Love,
    Eric

  18. JerBear on July 28th, 2008 5:08 pm

    I’m just sad that he is stuck on a team that will likely not win for a number of years .. and by the time the M’s may have a chance, they will have to start paying him a ton to keep him.

    IF, the M’s get the right GM and learn how to spend their money WISELY, it will not take that long to turn them around. And IF they get smart and lock Felix up with a good contract now, he will not be “overpaid” for years to come…

    I do realize that those are some big if’s, but it could happen.

  19. Eugene on July 28th, 2008 5:09 pm

    Reed, Clement and LaHair in the lineup? How will the M’s ever win without their Proven Veterans?

  20. walkie83 on July 28th, 2008 5:16 pm

    I think you guys misunderstand what I say about Felix. I hardly bash him. I think he is a great pitcher. I just don’t think it is possible for him to be as good as people on this site make him out to be .. especially when he is yet to prove it. They make him out to be the VERY best in the entire world.. King Felix .. when he is more like Prince Felix at this stage of his career. Maybe one day he will be a Nolan Ryan caliber pitcher… but I have yet to see it.

    However, this year he has improved greatly with the way he handles himself out on the mound.

    Maybe I’m being too harsh .. cause .. well, I watch this team too. We have absolutely nothing to cheer about, besides him. He is really the only reason to watch. However, sadly, he is not the savior. He alone cannot do what the M’s need. If he gives up one run, we’ll lose 1-0. If he gives up 2 runs, we’ll lose 2-1. Sadly, this team sucks.

    Then again .. at least it is entertaining to watch him.

    WOO HOO! 3-0 M’s! Felix better hold it! :)

  21. JerBear on July 28th, 2008 5:23 pm

    Raul, you’re embarrassing yourself out there…I know Riggs thinks your great, but you should go tell him you want to be the DH.

  22. SpokaneMsFan on July 28th, 2008 5:24 pm

    Well at least he’s making sure to establish the fastball, we all know how silly he looks when he mixes up his pitches from the get go.

  23. Dave on July 28th, 2008 5:24 pm

    I just don’t think it is possible for him to be as good as people on this site make him out to be .. especially when he is yet to prove it.

    Read this sentence, figure out whats wrong with your logic, and get back to us.

  24. walkie83 on July 28th, 2008 5:24 pm

    Raul didn’t do anything wrong. Very few LFs would have got to that ball.. and if they did even fewer would be able to throw him out at 2B

  25. OppositeField on July 28th, 2008 5:24 pm

    Defense. Play it, guys.

  26. Steve T on July 28th, 2008 5:27 pm

    I think Felix is as good as Nolan Ryan now. Maybe better. He doesn’t walk a million guys a game, for one thing.

    I recently discovered that Facebook’s “Mariners Nation” application, which is even lower on the brainpower ladder for M’s fans than KJR, awards you status depending on how much you post. When you’re a “Rookie” you are awarded a jersey icon that reads “HERNNDEZ”. Wrong on so many levels.

  27. CC03 on July 28th, 2008 5:27 pm

    How did they not turn a DP?

  28. DMZ on July 28th, 2008 5:27 pm

    Raul is good at defense.

  29. Paul B on July 28th, 2008 5:28 pm

    Raul didn’t do anything wrong. Very few LFs would have got to that ball.. and if they did even fewer would be able to throw him out at 2B

    We must be watching a different game. Slow as he is, even Raul got over to it and it went almost directly under his glove. Any LF’er would have cut that ball off. Except Raul. And maybe Manny.

    Then Yuni has a ball go off his glove. And LaHair botches a pickoff throw.

    Mariner baseball at its finest.

  30. walkie83 on July 28th, 2008 5:29 pm

    I’m afraid to get back to you .. you’ll just delete it. Yes, the logic was off.. but you got the point. Sweet! Felix managed to keep the lead!

  31. great gonzalez on July 28th, 2008 5:32 pm

    Maybe one day he will be a Nolan Ryan caliber pitcher

    Psst… Nolan Ryan wasn’t that good.

  32. CC03 on July 28th, 2008 5:32 pm

    Sloppy defense was the cause of at least one run.

    Holy crap LaHair.

  33. OppositeField on July 28th, 2008 5:33 pm

    I’m afraid to get back to you .. you’ll just delete it. Yes, the logic was off.. but you got the point. Sweet! Felix managed to keep the lead!

    Yiiiikes.

  34. MedicineHat on July 28th, 2008 5:33 pm

    Hair of the dog!!!!!

  35. Steve T on July 28th, 2008 5:33 pm

    Whoo hoo! LaHair!

  36. Tom in Edmonds on July 28th, 2008 5:34 pm

    Well the King got off to a rough start but he seems to have settled in…

    #1 for LaHair!

  37. Steve T on July 28th, 2008 5:35 pm

    No, wait, I don’t want LaHair to do well, because he’ll develop a cult of stupids like Bloomquist and Bucky Jacobsen did.

  38. Dave on July 28th, 2008 5:43 pm

    I think the ump just thought he slayed a dragon.

  39. Tom in Edmonds on July 28th, 2008 5:43 pm

    That’s the King I know & love!

  40. MG8222 on July 28th, 2008 5:56 pm

    Some more trouble here for Felix in the 3rd

  41. Dave on July 28th, 2008 5:57 pm

    Where the hell was Lopez?

    Our middle infield is awful.

  42. DMZ on July 28th, 2008 5:58 pm

    Hitting the clubhouse spread with Silva and Vidro.

  43. Red Apple on July 28th, 2008 5:59 pm

    100 degrees??? Ichiro has something to say about that hot weather

    In Texas, it’s “Two armadillos f***ing in a sweaty cowboy boot.”

  44. CC03 on July 28th, 2008 6:00 pm

    Was that the second blown DP?

  45. joser on July 28th, 2008 6:01 pm

    Wow I forgot the game started at 5 so I came in cold and pulled up fangraphs, going “please be flat for Felix, please be flat” and I saw it was down but not at the bottom and I thought “Hmmm, 41%, that doesn’t look too bad” and then I did a double-take — wait, the Mariners have four runs and Texas has only two? Next you’re going to tell me Yuni got a walk.

    Hope the good people of Texas saved that ball for the pride of Worcester, MA.

  46. Tom in Edmonds on July 28th, 2008 6:04 pm

    Huge SO!

  47. MG8222 on July 28th, 2008 6:05 pm

    That was a huge strikeout….and that was a nasty last pitch

  48. scottiedawg on July 28th, 2008 6:08 pm

    No one look at the BAL-NYY Boxscore if you want to retain your sanity.

  49. OppositeField on July 28th, 2008 6:08 pm

    I love, love, love watching Felix in those high pressure situations. The dude sets his jaw and just goes to work.

  50. msb on July 28th, 2008 6:09 pm

    way to work the pitcher to give Felix a rest, there.

    so, having been radio-bound on the walk home, has Felix been that wild, or is there a strikezone involved?

  51. OppositeField on July 28th, 2008 6:11 pm

    Yeah, Adam Jones had 5 RBI today.

    Also, what the HELL is the deal with his picture on ESPN.com?

    Uhhhhh?

  52. Dave Clapper on July 28th, 2008 6:12 pm

    Seven pitches. Seven. Jeebus. The M’s half of the inning was so fast that in the time that I refreshed FanGraphs, it went from showing Felix’s K to the M’s being done. I feel like Vizzini.

    Inconceivable.

  53. MG8222 on July 28th, 2008 6:13 pm

    LOL at that pic of Adam Jones…….that is funny.

  54. msb on July 28th, 2008 6:15 pm

    Yeah, Adam Jones had 5 RBI today.

    boy, the Yankees must need a shiny new pitcher, doncha think?

  55. jwgrandsalami on July 28th, 2008 6:15 pm

    #36 Steve T said: “No, wait, I don’t want LaHair to do well, because he’ll develop a cult of stupids like Bloomquist and Bucky Jacobsen did.”

    Wow — when did Bucky Jacobsen start getting lunped in with Willie Fucking Bloomquist?

    Jacobsen was pretty darn good in the one season he played in, slugged .500, took his share of walks and was on a 35 home run pace for the Major League minimum. Maybe it would have lasted, maybe it wouldn’t have. But if he hadn’t gotten hurt he certainly could have been a little better version of exactly the cheap first base/DH alternative that Dave wants the M’s to trade for, one of Nelson Cruz or Brad Nelson (and I agree with Dave).

    You’re lumping Bucky in with the jackass with the .323 career slugging percentage who recently went 361 days without hitting an extra base hit, who makes nearly three times the minimum salary and thinks he should be an everyday player?

    There’s no problem with guys like Jacobsen as long as they can play and are useful to the team. Jacobsen was. Bloomquist isn’t… and no I wasn’t in the Cult of Stupids – it isn’t stupid to root for a player who slugs .500 for the minimum salary!

  56. TomC on July 28th, 2008 6:24 pm

    The 7 pitch 4th inning notwithstanding, it seems like the [Mariners] are taking more pitches recently. Does anyone know how I could check that stat? Pitches per at bat on a team level?

  57. wlad on July 28th, 2008 6:25 pm

    [LaHair] is currently hitting .316 with an OPS of .824…
    even with the small sample size, [it's] encouraging. [It] could just as easily be .069/.069/.100…. ([I] don[']t really care if that doesn[']t work mathematically)

  58. killer_ewok18 on July 28th, 2008 6:28 pm

    Strasburg ho!

  59. msb on July 28th, 2008 6:28 pm

    ah, so nice to have Dave back on the radio.

    There was a good piece by Larry Stone this morning on the ceremony, as well as a Shannon Drayer appreciation of working with Dave.

  60. Paul B on July 28th, 2008 6:31 pm

    Hitting the clubhouse spread with Silva and Vidro

    They were happy to find out that Burger King is open late.

  61. killer_ewok18 on July 28th, 2008 6:31 pm

    “Tampa hasn’t been through wars.” — Blowers (Paraphrased)

  62. Steve T on July 28th, 2008 6:36 pm

    jwgrandsalami, maybe it’s unfair to rag on Bucky, but I’m really ragging on his fans, who continued to insist that he was a star in the making, a good ol’ semi-local boy, but just wasn’t getting the chances, long after his brief shot in ‘04. Yes, it was a decent few weeks; but Bucky was never a prospect.

    I think there’s STILL people out there who think he should still be our first baseman.

    It’s that kind of thing that reminds me of Bloomquist, and if LaHair does the same thing — hits a ton in the next two months — we’ll be hearing the same about him.

  63. MG8222 on July 28th, 2008 6:36 pm

    LOL at the FSN showing the numbers of Adam Jones…..Why do they have to do that??

  64. msb on July 28th, 2008 6:37 pm

    in 100 degree weather, it does not help to have your defense mess up behind you. And in front of you.

  65. MG8222 on July 28th, 2008 6:41 pm

    RAUUUUL with a bomb on a 3-0 count

  66. CC03 on July 28th, 2008 6:44 pm

    Lopez looked pretty gassed after that double.

  67. killer_ewok18 on July 28th, 2008 6:46 pm

    Pretty looking swing, Jeffie.

  68. msb on July 28th, 2008 6:52 pm

    speaking of Niehaus, for Drayer’s pregame interview today, Miguel Batista (who should only pitch as eloquently as he can talk) asked her if he could speak about Dave.

    I don’t think KOMO puts their audio up on the site, but it was a rumination on Dave, on they way he calls a game, on the role of the voices of the game, on how you can compare one player to another historically, but not announcers like Niehaus & Caray ….

  69. Paul B on July 28th, 2008 6:55 pm

    In the show they did with Dave at Cooperstown, Dave was standing by a backstop watching what I assume was an amateur game on the little field there. After commenting on the field and its surroundings, he started to call the play, and then commented on how the umpire was doing a great job of calling strikes, with a little dig at some of the ML umps who are slow to call pitches.

    Solid gold segment.

  70. Paul B on July 28th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Sims is calling Ichiro’s hit total “professional hits” to imply the inclusion of his hits in Japan.

    But minor leaguers are professionals. I assume they have minor league baseball in Japan. So I don’t think that is the right term to use.

  71. killer_ewok18 on July 28th, 2008 7:01 pm

    That’s it! Who will invent a metric to measure announcing?

  72. terry on July 28th, 2008 7:02 pm

    The Washburn saga is taking a surreal turn that probably warrants an update concerning the performance of the interim FO (bumbling or Yankee bullying?). Will we be treated to further analysis?

  73. msb on July 28th, 2008 7:07 pm

    The Washburn saga is taking a surreal turn

    are you referring to Olney’s latest note?

  74. msb on July 28th, 2008 7:09 pm

    well, sorry, Felix.

  75. terry on July 28th, 2008 7:12 pm

    Ya.

  76. MattThompson on July 28th, 2008 7:25 pm

    From Olney’s piece:

    an NL executive who has been in contact with the Mariners on Monday says he wouldn’t be surprised if Seattle works to deliver the lefty to another team, even if it means swallowing many dollars.

    Wouldn’t it be just like the M’s this season to intentionally take a worse deal for Washburn out of nothing more than spite? Hurting next year’s team to do so.

  77. killer_ewok18 on July 28th, 2008 7:27 pm

    swallowing many dollars.

    Now that just sounds wrong.

  78. msb on July 28th, 2008 7:28 pm

    Wouldn’t it be just like the M’s this season to intentionally take a worse deal for Washburn out of nothing more than spite? Hurting next year’s team to do so.

    how would that hurt next year’s team?

  79. killer_ewok18 on July 28th, 2008 7:30 pm

    Lopey is so cute when he tries to dive.

  80. PaulMolitorCocktail on July 28th, 2008 7:33 pm

    how would that hurt next year’s team?

    If they didn’t get a useful prospect back, they’d have less money to spend on a free agent.

  81. MattThompson on July 28th, 2008 7:36 pm

    how would that hurt next yearÂ’s team?

    I’m assuming they’d count any dollars paid on Wasburn’s 2009 salary against next year’s payroll, limiting what they would otherwise spend, but I could be wrong here. I don’t know how they’d account for those dollars, and they may count them all against this year’s budget.

  82. David* on July 28th, 2008 7:37 pm

    Nicely done, Kenji-kun!

  83. OppositeField on July 28th, 2008 7:37 pm

    Joh with his best defensive play of the year. Hot damn.

  84. Tom in Edmonds on July 28th, 2008 7:38 pm

    Outstanding play by AB & Joh!!!

    AR nice SO!

  85. PaulMolitorCocktail on July 28th, 2008 7:41 pm

    Pinch Runner Willie Bloomquist.

  86. msb on July 28th, 2008 7:42 pm

    I guess I’m not really expecting to get a useful prospect back; at least not one who will be useful any time soon. IIRC they don’t apply money from one year to the next…

  87. Go Felix on July 28th, 2008 7:46 pm

    Nice bunt Yuni.

  88. Karen on July 28th, 2008 7:50 pm

    I just tuned in…looks like a real pitchers’ duel…

  89. Jeff Nye on July 28th, 2008 7:51 pm

    That’s right, Willie, get on that pony!

  90. msb on July 28th, 2008 7:53 pm

    happy little ponies. bet the Padres don’t have happy little ponies.

  91. Mothy on July 28th, 2008 7:53 pm

    Darn that selfish Ichiro! Getting the sac fly instead of his 3,000th hit! He should be more like Silva and help out his teammates by eating all their leftovers.

  92. Lauren, token chick on July 28th, 2008 7:56 pm

    Dude, this “board” (tee hee!) is becoming like Anti-Fatties Not-So-Anonymous.

    I turned on the game just in time to see that throw down to 3rd. Schweet!

  93. PaulMolitorCocktail on July 28th, 2008 7:58 pm

    Ibanez would have had that.

  94. TomC on July 28th, 2008 7:59 pm

    Raul would have got that (if he was standing there when Bradley hit it).

  95. Mothy on July 28th, 2008 8:00 pm

    Well we have so many fatties on this team that if we want to be equally cruel to them all it takes up a lot of time.

  96. msb on July 28th, 2008 8:01 pm

    yum, leftovers.

    did I mention that I emailed KIRO’s program director to suggest that he should hire Shannon Drayer as part of his new Mariners team? It seemed the thing to do after they announced the station change.

    Not that I’ve heard back from him, mind you, but if any one else is interested, it’s Rod Arquette at rarquette@710kiro.com

  97. TomC on July 28th, 2008 8:03 pm

    Morrow has not been sharp tonight. Keep fingers crossed.

  98. TomC on July 28th, 2008 8:05 pm

    99 mph heaters will nicely compensate for a lack of control.

  99. dsmiley on July 28th, 2008 8:06 pm

    We win!

    Although I have to shake my head when I hear Dave Sims say something like “…and great defense tonight…” Well, I guess he’s right: we only committed one error tonight. We’re getting better!

  100. msb on July 28th, 2008 8:08 pm

    Although I have to shake my head when I hear Dave Sims say something like “…and great defense tonight…”

    short term memory– that last DP wiped the rest from his mind

  101. jwgrandsalami on July 28th, 2008 8:13 pm

    #62 wrote: jwgrandsalami, maybe it’s unfair to rag on Bucky, but I’m really ragging on his fans, who continued to insist that he was a star in the making, a good ol’ semi-local boy, but just wasn’t getting the chances, long after his brief shot in ‘04. Yes, it was a decent few weeks; but Bucky was never a prospect.

    I hear what you’re saying, Steve, but it really doesn’t matter that Bucky wasn’t a prospect. If he’d stayed healthy he could have been useful for 2-3 years as a 25 HR, 80 RBI guy playing DH or 1B and making close to the minimum. This is a team that doesn’t know how to develop hitting prospects — the last position player they drafted that became a starter was Jose Cruz, Jr. — 11 years ago — and they traded him after two months in the bigs. Before that it was A-Rod… Not only does having a cheap productive player like that in the lineup allow you to spend $$$ on your other needs, it also keeps a stupid organization like the Mariners from paying a guaranteed $4 million to a “proven veteran” like Carl Everett…

    And why does it matter if he was a “prospect” or not? Occasionally a guy like Cecil Fielder comes along, who washes out with one team (Toronto), goes to Japan for a year and comes back and has a very productive seven year stretch from 1990 – 1996 (averaging 37 HRs a year). These type of guys who can hit the ball out of the yard are popular for a good reason, unlike Willie Bloomquist. I’m just saying there’s a difference between the idiots that love Willie and the fans that Bucky had…

  102. msb on July 28th, 2008 8:28 pm

    wonder if the Rangers will notice if Ichiro! hits no. 3000 tomorrow

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