Game 111, Orioles at Mariners

DMZ · August 3, 2008 at 12:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Cabrera v Silva. If Silva’s back holds out.

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92 Responses to “Game 111, Orioles at Mariners”

  1. Go Felix on August 3rd, 2008 3:10 pm

    He’s been working on his mechanics…..

  2. bakomariner on August 3rd, 2008 3:14 pm

    Must have called his college coach…

  3. MattThompson on August 3rd, 2008 3:16 pm

    Yuni, adventures in bunting.

    And, Cabrera bails him out. That’s the Daniel Cabrera the league knows and loves.

  4. scott19 on August 3rd, 2008 3:17 pm

    OMG, Yuni walked! Quick, check the sky for locusts!

  5. Go Felix on August 3rd, 2008 3:17 pm

    You’re doing it wrong if you walk Betancourt.

  6. juneau_fan on August 3rd, 2008 3:17 pm

    Sim screeches, “Yuni WALKS” in the same tone one would use for the return of Our Lord and Savior.

    Come to think of it, it may be as rare of an occurrence.

  7. argh on August 3rd, 2008 3:19 pm

    How Silva managed to last 6.2 innings is beyond me.

    The Orioles are, after all and despite having beaten the Mariners like a red-headed stepchild so far this year, a last place team.

  8. bakomariner on August 3rd, 2008 3:20 pm

    wow

  9. Go Felix on August 3rd, 2008 3:20 pm

    Looks like Ichiro threw a handful of marbles at the defense.

  10. argh on August 3rd, 2008 3:21 pm

    Ichiro magic strikes again.

  11. scott19 on August 3rd, 2008 3:23 pm

    RAUUUUUUUUL!!!

  12. G-Man on August 3rd, 2008 3:24 pm

    So Rig put lefties hitting 1-2-3 both last night and today. Does that mean he doesn’t think much of the O’s pen’s ability to get them out?

  13. RallyFried on August 3rd, 2008 3:44 pm

    I predict groundout to short.

  14. juneau_fan on August 3rd, 2008 3:46 pm

    wha…wha….Vidro stole a base? And no one noticed? He’s just standing on second?

  15. scraps on August 3rd, 2008 3:46 pm

    Whitaker’s career stolen base percentage was 65.6%, so he probably shouldn’t have been stealing as much as he was, let alone more. His career high in triples was 8. He may not have been as fast as he looked.

  16. scott19 on August 3rd, 2008 4:06 pm

    65: And then Trammell’s SB percentage was actually a little better at 68.4% (236/345), with a career high in triples of 7. It just always seemed like those two were fairly agile whether in the field or on the basepaths.

    BTW, I find it interesting that B-R lists those two as comparables of each other. Fancy that!

  17. rrose on August 3rd, 2008 4:06 pm

    I don’t understand how the ball Ichiro put in play in his last at-bat could have been ruled a Fielder’s Choice. Of course, it is true that Roberts chose to go to second. But given his position, momentum, and how long it took for him to get the throw off, there’s no way he could have thrown Ichiro out at first. Isn’t the tacit assumption in a Fielder’s Choice the fact that (barring an error) the batter would be put out if the fielder chose to go to first?

  18. Paul B on August 3rd, 2008 4:13 pm

    Not if there was an out made on the play, or there should have been an out on the play (if there was an error).

  19. scott19 on August 3rd, 2008 4:20 pm

    Geez, even Matt Pittman is gushing over the fact that Yuni drew a freakin’ walk!

  20. Mike Snow on August 3rd, 2008 4:32 pm

    Yuniesky Betancourt facing Daniel Cabrera – the undisciplined swinger against the uncontrolled thrower. I’m not sure which one should be the immovable object and which one the irresistible force.

    It’s more than just Betancourt, though, the whole series was filled with Mariners just hacking away at anything, to the point of sending Dave Niehaus into one of his “for crying out loud” jags. The Oriole starters wouldn’t have been throwing complete games (or at least threatening to) without a lot of help.

  21. gwangung on August 3rd, 2008 5:02 pm

    It’s more than just Betancourt, though, the whole series was filled with Mariners just hacking away at anything, to the point of sending Dave Niehaus into one of his “for crying out loud” jags.

    This is part and parcel of the Mariner team philosophy. They want hitters to be aggressive, so they select for hitters who are aggressive.

    The ramifications of their decision seems to escape them…

  22. BigJared on August 3rd, 2008 5:17 pm

    I watched Silva on the mound today and I had an epiphany.
    I saw all of the other things the pitcher’s mound kind of looks like:
    The top of a hamburger bun.
    A dollop of cookie dough.
    The center of a pie crust be it of the dessert or pot variety.
    The fat part of well stuffed pasta.
    The top of a muffin.
    A pile of mashed potatoes with brown gravy.
    The top of a chocolate ice cream cone.

  23. abender20 on August 3rd, 2008 5:45 pm

    What bothers me is that the broadcast crew talked about how Silva really pitched better today and “got it done”. Yes, he only gave up 4 runs, but needed 117 pitches to get through 6.2 innings, gave up 9 hits, got 3 of his outs on DEEP fly balls, and had more fly ball outs (9) than ground ball outs (8).

    I see that as a pretty poor outing.

  24. jsa on August 3rd, 2008 5:56 pm

    What bothers me is that the broadcast crew talked about how Silva really pitched better today and “got it done”. Yes, he only gave up 4 runs, but needed 117 pitches to get through 6.2 innings, gave up 9 hits, got 3 of his outs on DEEP fly balls, and had more fly ball outs (9) than ground ball outs (8).

    I see that as a pretty poor outing.

    Sort of like Felix yesterday.

    But then different expectations lead to different criticisms.

  25. bdunn02 on August 3rd, 2008 6:13 pm

    Really? If so, dumbest team ever (Tim Booth, AP):

    Seattle manager Jim Riggleman said the team would like to give Morrow a chance to prove himself a starter by the end of the season. For that to happen, Putz must regain his form as Seattle’s lockdown closer after missing more than a month with a hyperextended right elbow and blowing two saves in seven appearances since coming off the disabled list.

    “I understand where all those guys are at in terms of what this team is looking for the last two months. You hear talks that they want Brandon to start,” Putz said. “Today was big in getting back to making that decision easier.”

    So we think that it’s important to the team’s future to see whether Morrow can hack it as a starter. BUT we can’t possibly find that out if we don’t know whether Putz is ready to resume his closer role since it’s even more important for the team’s future that … what, that we finish above .400 this year and therefore don’t want to lose late leads? And if we’re worried about the future, shouldn’t Morrow have been getting stretched out at Triple-A once the season became recognized as hopeless?

    I just wish I could stop hating and start liking the Angels. It’d be so much less agonizing. Damn my loyalty!

  26. abender20 on August 3rd, 2008 6:23 pm

    Even worse than waiting for Putz to regain his closer mentality and control is the whole mindset of the front office. YOU SPENT A FIRST ROUND PICK ON A CLOSER! Who cares what JJ can do down the stretch. You should have your closer of the future, and you don’t need a closer in any game started by Silva or Batista anyway.

  27. scraps on August 3rd, 2008 6:37 pm

    It is a kind of distinction to feel like I’m cheering for the very stupidest team in baseball.

    Okay, maybe the Nationals are stupider, but they have the (dis)advantage of having been run by Major League Baseball itself, and they can probably recover from that.

  28. WardP on August 3rd, 2008 6:44 pm

    For this team, closers are clearly moot this year. The idea we’re running our number pne pick out there to close meaningless games when his future lies elsewhere is beyond stupefying.

  29. RallyFried on August 3rd, 2008 6:51 pm

    Really? If so, dumbest team ever.

    Well we gained a game today. Now we’re only 27 games back, and 21.5 out of the wildcard. So we really have to buckle it up and get after it. I mean if we don’t have Putz back in full form before stretching Morrow out to be a starter, then this whole season might go down the drain.

  30. Mike Snow on August 3rd, 2008 7:41 pm

    What bothers me is that the broadcast crew talked about how Silva really pitched better today

    Actually, I would say they’re not that far wrong, Silva probably pitched about as well as he’s capable of doing. The real problem is that we’re putting a totally defense-dependent pitcher out in front of such a lousy defense, on top of the lunacy of paying him $12 million a year.

  31. Breadbaker on August 3rd, 2008 7:50 pm

    The worst pitcher will pitch well on occasion. It doesn’t mean anything. Just like the worst hitter (hiya, Turbo!) will hit a home run occasionally. After all, if the other team’s pitcher isn’t really worried about you, he’ll throw up something fat on occasion just because he isn’t concentrating that hard.

  32. jsa on August 3rd, 2008 8:55 pm

    So Silva’s best day is about the same as Felix’s worst? Last two games more or less validates that theory.

  33. Jim_H on August 3rd, 2008 9:06 pm

    Damn, Silva ROCKS !

  34. JMHawkins on August 3rd, 2008 9:47 pm

    Seattle manager Jim Riggleman said the team would like to give Morrow a chance to prove himself a starter by the end of the season. For that to happen…

    Listening to the pre-game show, I realized I just really hate listening to Riggleman talk about the team. I’ve never met him, he might be a great guy. Given some talent to manage, he might even be an okay manager. But the things he says in interviews makes it sound like he thinks the fans are morons. They’ve only had 41 save opportunities all year. They’re not good enough to need a closer. The game’s usually over by the fifth inning because 3/5ths of the starting rotation sucks. Fans know this, Riggleman. Fans know this Pelekoudos. Please figure it out yourselves and quit trying to bamboozle the fans people who used to come to the games.

  35. joser on August 3rd, 2008 10:18 pm

    So Silva’s best day is about the same as Felix’s worst? Last two games more or less validates that theory.

    That sounds about right. Silva’s ceiling is Felix’s floor.

  36. nvn8vbryce on August 3rd, 2008 11:35 pm

    Well we gained a game today. Now we’re only 27 games back, and 21.5 out of the wildcard. So we really have to buckle it up and get after it. I mean if we don’t have Putz back in full form before stretching Morrow out to be a starter, then this whole season might go down the drain.

    The Mariners in 2008 are under Bavasi Lincoln are not only the drain but the entire sewage plant. Why would Howard Lincoln allow his GM to field such crappy teams? I mean if the Rays can go from worst to first, imagine what new management and ideals can do for the M’s!

  37. bdunn02 on August 4th, 2008 12:14 am

    Fans know this, Riggleman. Fans know this Pelekoudos.

    “The fans know what the marketing department tells them to know!” -H. Lincoln

  38. Paul B on August 4th, 2008 7:16 am

    “The fans know what the marketing department tells them to know!” -H. Lincoln

    Maybe Lincoln lives in a bunker, where his workers only tell him good things.

    Either that, or he’s really what he seems to be in interviews.

  39. cdowley on August 4th, 2008 9:37 am

    Lee’s on with Mitch, and apparently Lee has “can’t read a newspaper or listen to the radio” syndrome. Almost every question Mitch has asked (of which too many were softballs IMO, but that’s another tale for another time) had some permutation of “I haven’t seen/heard anything about that other than what discussions we had” involved.

    This interview is dropping my opinion of Lee… you can tell by listening to his voice and how he’s saying things that he’s thinking of a lot of his answers off the top of his head…

    He had a great opportunity to inspire some form of confidence with the question about waiver trades, and then gave a complete non-answer. Way to go, Lee. You just shot your fan confidence in the foot.

  40. scott19 on August 4th, 2008 11:46 am

    Maybe Lincoln lives in a bunker

    Like another well-known fascist maniac in world history?!

  41. msb on August 4th, 2008 1:18 pm

    Lee’s on with Mitch, and apparently Lee has “can’t read a newspaper or listen to the radio” syndrome. Almost every question Mitch has asked (of which too many were softballs IMO, but that’s another tale for another time) had some permutation of “I haven’t seen/heard anything about that other than what discussions we had” involved.

    he’s the interim GM, he’s not going to talk about any thing that happened or didn’t happen. Heck, most GMs won’t talk about what actually happened or not.

  42. cdowley on August 4th, 2008 1:22 pm

    At least most GM’s will at least say “Yeah, I’ve heard about that, but…”. Lee on the other hand always seemed to have this “H’uh? What’re you talking about?” tone to his voice when Mitch would ask questions about various rumors.

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