Get The Hint, Brian
Dave · August 7, 2008 at 2:27 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Mr. Cashman,
You really should have traded for Jarrod Washburn. Since you failed to do so, we have had to see fit to strike down both Joba Chamberlain and now Andy Pettitte after we already took out Chien-Ming Wang and Philip Hughes earlier this year. Your starting rotation is now Mike Mussina and four guys from an MTV reality show. You’re in a pennant race. You’re really going to throw Ian Kennedy, Dan Giese, and Alfredo Aceves this weekend?
I don’t think so. Claim Jarrod Washburn on waivers. We can’t make this any more obvious.
Signed,
The Baseball Gods.
And if your really nice we won’t make you take Jose Vidro.
This makes me happy.
I bet now Seattle wouldn’t even take the deal. The mariners are .500 in the last ten. We’re turning it around!
Seriously though. Would the same deal be on the table. Obviously the Yankees need the pitching desperately, but do you think they’ll still pay for him too?
The Baseball Gods owe us big time for Doyle… and now I know just how swift and horrible their retribution can be…
*shudder*…
It’s like Rameses staring down Moses…
“Cashman! Your stubbornness and pride has brought this upon you! Let my Washburn GO!”
“I will not bow to your false Baseball Gods! My former Boss had the right idea when dealing with you Mariners! And there shall be a cry as there has not been heard in all of New York!”
“Cashman… you bring this upon yourself…”
ESPN (yeah, I know) reported last night that the Rangers will try and block any Yankee deals. The following scenario would be fantastic:
1) Rangers claim Washburn
2) M’s decline pulling him back off waivers, letting Texas have him
3) Washburn gives up eleventy billion homeruns in Arlington
4) Texas, NYY and Washburn all lose
5) M’s win
Dear Baseball Gods,
I really wanted to trade for Jarrod Washburn. Really. I offered the Mariners Not-having-to-pay-Jarrod-Washburn-any-more-money in trade. I even threw in Not-having-to-watch-Jarrod-Washburn-pitch-anymore to help seal the deal. But they rejected the offer! This is not my fault. You can’t bargain with stupid.
Sincerely,
Brian Cashman
I command that Alex Rodriguez hit .071 in the playoffs…………..(oh, he’s already done that).
Hey, if they are so hard up for pitching, maybe they’ll claim Silva and Batista too!
True dat!
fox sports has a list of guys that may hit the waiver wire (including washburn).
I followed the suggestion to get the word out there and did a little cutting and pasting from the USSM piece to their comments section.
I sincerely hope we can get someone to bite.
Does anybody have any hard intel, or perhaps quasi-credible gossip (but something better than pure speculation) on whether the M’s have put Washburn (or anybody else) on waivers yet? And if they haven’t, is there anything other than speculation about when they’re planning to do the old “everybody on the roster goes on waivers/just kidding” dance?
Brian?
just ignore Vicente Padilla, Paul Byrd, Bronson Arroyo
I’ll preface this by saying I don’t like any of them, but actually, taking money out of the equation a little bit, I’d probably want all three gone in the following order:
1. Silva
2. Batista
3. Washburn
Silva just plain sucks.. Batista drives me nuts with his recent control problems and underwhelming hittable stuff.. And Washburn is just a horrible horrible value, but somewhat serviceable still.
So are most of our AAA pitchers, but for a lot cheaper. Washburn, although serviceable, is still a waste. The thing is that we can only get rid of one of those pitchers… and Washburn is it.
Buster Olney is under the impression that Washburn hasn’t been placed on waivers yet. Not really sure what the M’s are waiting for here…
Not really sure what the M’s are waiting for here…
Mussina to go down too?
Is there a source that is reliable that tells us exactly who is and who isn’t on waivers? Or is that classified information?
Not exactly sure why the Rangers would block deals to the Yankees, especially when it’s just Washburn and there’s the distinct possibility they’ll have to take him if they claim him. Perhaps they do not think this is a bad thing. Perhaps they are stupid.
Clearly, we’re going to have to get the big cloud by day/pillar of fire to follow Mussina around until Cashman gets the message.
We don’t get access to a master “list” of who is on waivers. The info sort of leaks out. For a list of who has made it through waivers, check out http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
Aaaaand scottiedawg just made God kill another kitten. Nice work.
Or, it could be CBS’ next summer replacement series…Rock Star: New York Yankees.
I have a little theory on the M’s waiting to release Vidro and hopefully Washburn in the future. I think they may be waiting for someone to be ready to take their place. In the case of Wlad/Vidro. Lets say you relase Vidro early and Wlad comes up but isn’t ready for MLB pitching and gets destroyed mentally from striking out 2-3 times a game for 3/4ths a season.
The hope is that once RRS or Morrow are actually ready to take a spot in the rotation that they punch Washburn’s ticket out of here.
Probably just wishful thinking but if you subtact a player you have to replace him with another. If you can do that without destroying the player who has a future in your organization might as well do it that way.
This whole thread return zings all those smug arrogant Yankee fans who kept harping that “we have Joba, Mussina is our MVP, Pettitte is BACK, Hughes and Kennedy are coming just you wait!”
I especially loved your scenario in #5, dnc. I mean, how could the Yankees NOT win last night facing this poor kid who spent his youth learning judo instead of baseball, pitching in the majors for only the second time in Hitters’ Paradise, aka TBPIA Rangers, the ballpark where decent pitchers’ careers go to die? And with Sir Sidney doing a poor imitation of Roger Clemens pitching for a new contract…
#23…well, since the idea seems to be that RRS is coming up to take Batista’s place (as in, the next turn in the rotation), I hope they’re not waiting on Morrow. It would be great if he were ready by the end of August, but that’s an extremely optimistic projection. With the rest of the season lost anyhow, why hang onto Washburn just because you don’t have a replacement ready. Besides, doesn’t Feierabend deserve another shot?
Dave,
BEST
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I heard someone say on Baseball Tonight last night that the Rangers would probably try to block any attempt by the Yankees to pick up anyone on waivers. I dunno how realistic that is, but it would sure be fun to watch. 🙂
Pettitte is denying prior reports that he is missing a start.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/yankees/archives/2008/08/pettitte_says_i.html
There has to be some way or another to confirm whether the Mariners have placed the Bus on waivers. If they still haven’t, then they are beyond all hope.
Wouldn’t “MTV reality show” rank pretty high on any list of oxymorons?
21 – Um, all mlbtraderumors really does is collect the various links into one spot. Not sure what that’s a bad thing. If you don’t the like the commentary that sometimes takes place there, fine. Personally, I think it’s a very useful site.
Let’s not turn this comment thread into a debate about that site, please.
Sportszilla-
He could be… his numbers are not all that great at Tacoma but we don’t expect them to be.
The reason to hangout no Washburn is to not throw some rookie into the fire. You are going to give Washburn money might as well do it so he can pitch. W’s and L’s mean nothing at this point so if Washburn isn’t blocking a young player from coming up then have him eat innings.
If we had a AAA team full of guys ready to come up I would help Wash pack his bags. I just think of Washburn as organizational fodder for now, eating innings up at the major league level until we have a better option.
I didn’t look at Ryan Feierabend’s numbers before I posted, I just assumed they were not great. They are good from the results based side but a bunch of regression coming. However it is only an 11 game AAA sample.
I think the question of whether Feireabend deserves another shot is exactly the right question. He’s pretty much shown he’s mastered AAA, and he stunk up the joint in the bigs last year, so isn’t a relatively low pressure bunch of starts against the pretty good competition we’re going to be facing the rest of the year (Twins, Rays, Yankees, and our division rivals) the kind of shot we should be giving him? If he succeeds, we could be looking at a rotation of Felix, Bedard, Morrow, Feierabend and RRS (or a day of rain) next year, which wouldn’t be so terrible at all. If he fails, what have we lost?
True…though what are we going to do with Carlos “OCB” Silva and his bajillion-dollar contract?