Game 118, Rays at Mariners

Dave · August 10, 2008 at 12:00 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Garza vs Dickey, 1:10 pm.

Could the Delmon Young/Brendan Harris for Matt Garza/Jason Bartlett deal have worked out any better for Tampa so far? Bartlett’s not hitting, but his defense at shortstop has been a huge boon to the pitching staff, Garza’s solidified their rotation, and they’ve replaced Young with a Floyd/Hinske/Gross platoon that’s been an upgrade to boot.

Yup, Tampa knows what they’re doing.

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65 Responses to “Game 118, Rays at Mariners”

  1. Brick on August 10th, 2008 12:08 pm

    Pretty short rest for Garza… I think it’s Edwin Jackson today.

  2. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 12:32 pm

    I haven’t been paying attention to the pregame show; got it running in the background.

    What. The. Hell. Is. This. Large. Swaying. Person?

    I assume the replacement for Drayer?

  3. Dugan on August 10th, 2008 12:33 pm

    The lineup

    Ichiro RF
    Reed LF
    Ibanez DH
    Beltre 3B
    Lopez 2B
    Clement C
    Balentien CF
    LaHair 1B
    Betancourt SS

    How do Reed and Balentien compare defensively? Why Balentien in CF instead of Reed?

  4. Dave Hall on August 10th, 2008 12:40 pm

    #2: FSN also let Cara Capuano go…the large person you speak of may be her replacement, as opposed to Shannon’s. (Besides, can anyone really replace Shannon?)

  5. bakomariner on August 10th, 2008 12:41 pm

    WLAD hasn’t looked terrible out there since the return from Tacoma, aside from that first ball hit to him when he was in center the other night…he covered a lot of ground from RF yesteday…

    I think it’s great the Raul is DHing (probably just a rest and not the norm), but they need to put ICHIRO! in CF, WLAD in RF and Reed in LF permantly for the rest of the season…DH Raul and use him out there to give them a days rest in the field…

    Not to wish injuries, but I’m glad we don’t have to see WFB in the outfield platoon anymore…

  6. daveblev on August 10th, 2008 12:56 pm

    Not to wish injuries, but I’m glad we don’t have to see WFB in the outfield platoon anymore…

    ok, so i will admit i did a cheerful “yes!” when i got the mariners alert text message that WFB was put on the DL. i’m just glad he’s not going to be in the lineup and games period.

  7. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 12:59 pm

    ok, so i will admit i did a cheerful “yes!” when i got the mariners alert text message that WFB was put on the DL. i’m just glad he’s not going to be in the lineup and games period.

    I dunno. I’d rather have Willie as the pinch runner, not Cairo.

    Out the rest of the season? Discoloration? Ouch, Willie.

  8. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 1:07 pm

    Well, since these guys burned themselves out playing ’til 11.30 last nite and have already been shut down by Edwin Jackson once earlier this year, I suppose that means that RAD will get screwed again in this start.

  9. DAMellen on August 10th, 2008 1:09 pm

    So do you still think Delmon Young is a future star or has this season brought him down in your eyes?

  10. bakomariner on August 10th, 2008 1:11 pm

    Wow. Lopez, ICHIRO! and now Clement…TERRIBLE defense the last couple games…

    Nothing new really…

  11. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 1:11 pm

    I was so sorry Dave wasn’t doing the game last night on TV. Every time Yuni made another bad play, I wished I could hear his little old man squeal.

    Ooooo…now he’s taking it out on Clement! Go, old man!

  12. dsmiley on August 10th, 2008 1:12 pm

    Hey, cut him some slack. It’s not like Clement is paid to primarily catch baseballs…

    …oh, right.

  13. RadioGuy2k on August 10th, 2008 1:14 pm

    Good job Dickey, that’s how you get an out without relying on the awful defense behind you.

  14. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 1:18 pm

    It has been nice, in this Rays series to see good defense…from them. Makes me all wistful.

  15. naviomelo on August 10th, 2008 1:21 pm

    What was the game time temperature?

  16. JR Ewing on August 10th, 2008 1:26 pm

    15. who cares ? 65f

  17. CaptainPoopy on August 10th, 2008 1:29 pm

    So, that’s what an actual LF looks like?!

  18. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 1:29 pm

    Sucks for the Rays, though, that Crawford is now on the 15-day DL with a messed-up finger.

  19. RadioGuy2k on August 10th, 2008 1:35 pm

    Am I the only one constantly reminded of Al Borlin when I see R.A. Dickey pitch?

    The beard, the soft spoken nature, you get the drill…

    Oh hey, look, he gave up a bomb. That’s another way to avoid M’s defense having to touch the ball!

  20. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 1:40 pm

    J-LO’D!!!!

  21. bakomariner on August 10th, 2008 1:43 pm

    If these kids (WLAD, Reed, Clement, and LaHair) keep it up, with a good FA signing or two, we could be back in the mix next year…

    I pray everday for a GOOD new GM…

  22. JR Ewing on August 10th, 2008 1:49 pm

    21. really ? who’s in your rotation ?

  23. housedjbo on August 10th, 2008 2:05 pm

    how many failed bunt attempts is that in the last two days? 4? 5?

  24. bakomariner on August 10th, 2008 2:14 pm

    22- Felix, Bedard, RRS, Dickey, Morrow…

  25. Tek Jansen on August 10th, 2008 2:21 pm

    What the … ? Is Lopez just benched, or injured?

  26. bakomariner on August 10th, 2008 2:22 pm

    I went to lunch and come back and Tug is in the game…what happened?

  27. bakomariner on August 10th, 2008 2:22 pm

    They bench Lopez cause of his terrible D the last couple games?

  28. Saberfan on August 10th, 2008 2:23 pm

    Yes, they benched him for not picking up the throw from Clement and most likely his bad d from last nite.

    Good for Riggleman to send a message. Jose needs to concentrate out there.

  29. bakomariner on August 10th, 2008 2:24 pm

    If that’s what Riggs is doing, then Yuni should have been benched a lonooooong time ago…

  30. Saberfan on August 10th, 2008 2:25 pm

    He did bench Yuni for the very same thing. He can’t bench these guys every game.

    Good way to send a message though. Lopez is being shown he can hit the home run but if he’s gonna play like crap in the field, you sit.

    Good AB from Hulett btw.

  31. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 2:27 pm

    Can Tug cover both 2nd and SS?

    Wow, a walk. Wasn’t that one of the keys to the game, get Jackson to throw a lot of pitches? Crazy!

    The ways this team can find to hit into a double-play….

  32. Saberfan on August 10th, 2008 2:28 pm

    At least he took the pitches. I wish you could transplant a piece of his discipline into Yuni.

  33. Griffey IsMySurrogateDad on August 10th, 2008 2:31 pm

    Beat me to it SaberFan. I’m warming up to Riggs. I wonder if he was under specific instruction from up top prior to the Trading Deadline.

    Ever since July 31st, he’s shown some real teeth: dignified lineups, benching players for lack of execution, not putting Vidro, Cairo, and Johjima in the same lineup, urging management to send Morrow down, calling out Carlos Silva for being a douche…

    Atta boy Riggles. I won’t cry if you’re replaced after this season, but I admire your backbone for the time being.

  34. G-Man on August 10th, 2008 2:34 pm

    The Lenny Randle play!!

  35. Go Felix on August 10th, 2008 2:34 pm

    Dickey blows, ha!

  36. G-Man on August 10th, 2008 2:37 pm

    HR by who?!

    I applaud the benching, too. Too bad there aren’t enough extra players to bench everybody who screws up.

    However, just wait until rosters expand on Sept 1… ;)

  37. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 2:38 pm

    Might as well pull Lopez when they’re going to lose anyway. Lopez and Yuni were driving me crazy last night with bonehead play after play, but they were in that game, so Riggleman had to keep them in there. Yank one out with a big hook today, though.

  38. JR Ewing on August 10th, 2008 2:40 pm

    [10 errors in 2 sentences]

  39. bdunn02 on August 10th, 2008 2:46 pm

    24: I realize you’re projecting continued improvements, but…

    Your rotation includes an ace, a guy who pulls himself out of games after 90 pitches, two #5 starters, and another guy who has never started a major league game.

    You still have a very dubious middle infield. No one to play at first base, a catcher who’s still trying to break into the bigs, two question-marks in the outfield, a closer who looks like he might be done, and a bullpen that you’ve gutted in order to assure yourself of plenty of #5 starters in the rotation.

    If this team is thinking about anything earlier than 2010, God help us all.

  40. CaptainPoopy on August 10th, 2008 2:46 pm

    26

    If Bedard wants a multi-year deal, he’ll have to pitch next season. He can’t be injured.

  41. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 2:52 pm

    Kinda cool that Riggles shows some spine and finally benches J-Lo for his brainfarting…but then he waits ’til a game when he doesn’t even have Willie as an available option.

    Oh well…at least they didn’t get swept by the Rays.

  42. CaptainPoopy on August 10th, 2008 2:54 pm

    26… Man, where is my head, I meant 38.

  43. HamNasty on August 10th, 2008 2:55 pm

    How isn’t that a HR? It bounced past the yellow line and came back.

  44. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 3:02 pm

    If this team is thinking about anything earlier than 2010, God help us all.

    Actually, the way these guys are playing, I think the United Federation of Planets may come into existence before they make it back to the post-season.

  45. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 3:06 pm

    I think we can see the difference between a good team and bad here today. The afternoon after a hard loss, instead of coming out furious and ready to kill, the Mariners have flat, aimless play.

    And the team going to the playoffs comes out and plays clean and methodical ball.

  46. JR Ewing on August 10th, 2008 3:12 pm

    captain, bedard has already cost himself a ton of money on his next contract, he just might be dumb enough to do it again next season.

  47. CaptainPoopy on August 10th, 2008 3:14 pm

    JR-

    But you’re talking about the difference between taking a year off and committing career suicide by taking two off. I would hope he’s not stupid.

  48. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 3:18 pm

    45: Bingo — and the thing that’s frustrating as a fan is not even so much watching these guys getting beat to a pulp by a superior team having at least shown up to play as it is knowing that they beat themselves in these kind of games. I mean, Willy Aybar — for heaven’s sake — goes yard twice…what does that tell ya? >:(

  49. JR Ewing on August 10th, 2008 3:21 pm

    i think the guy and physical talent and a 10 cent brain. he quit on this team.

  50. CaptainPoopy on August 10th, 2008 3:31 pm

    I would just prefer to think that he’s a bit more intelligent than that.

  51. cgmonk on August 10th, 2008 3:33 pm

    @juneau_fan

    How exactly do you play a baseball game with an “furious and ready to kill” attitude?

    This sounds like a chemistry argument. It’s like saying the Mariners need more heart. What is heart?

  52. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 3:39 pm

    I think the next GM needs to build a team full of guys “who never smile very much” (i.e. androids) like Jack Warden did in that one episode of The Twilight Zone.

    The Orange County Angles just knocked off the Yanks down in Anaheim, too. Never thought I’d actually be happy to see LAA win a game — if only ’cause it helps the Rays in their division.

  53. SequimRealEstate on August 10th, 2008 3:41 pm

    Team total walks = 2
    Tug total walks = 2

    Way to go Tug next stop Oakland where that will be appreciated

  54. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 3:45 pm

    53: Yeah…see Tug Hulett will probably be one of those guys who, once released, will go to the A’s and wind up batting about .275 down there.

  55. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 3:50 pm

    cgmonk, okay, so you’ve never gone to work, feeling down, feeling like shit, and screwed a bunch of stuff up.

    Lucky employer!

    Yeah, I know what you’re saying, being a loyal reader here, but come on.

    Oh, wait, speaking of heart, the team has lost its gritty heart with Willie on the DL. I’ll blame that for this loss.

  56. RallyFried on August 10th, 2008 3:54 pm

    55 & 51

    Isn’t the word we are really looking for focus?

    I think there is an inconsistent level of focus on this team… Yuni and Lopez are the prime examples.

  57. JR Ewing on August 10th, 2008 4:12 pm

    how about lack of “accountability” or “consequences for failure”

  58. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 4:20 pm

    56: I would agree to some extent on that lack of focus. How many times have we seen Lopez just stand out there after an error with a nonchalant look on his face like it was no big deal? Apples and oranges, perhaps, but whenever guys like Boonie, McLemore or David Bell made an error, they’d usually look like they were so pissed off about it afterwards that they were ready to go punch a wall.

  59. DMZ on August 10th, 2008 4:25 pm

    The way to measure people is not by the way they look.

  60. scott19 on August 10th, 2008 4:31 pm

    You’re right, DMZ, and I’m sorry if I sounded judgemental. It’s just been a long and frustrating season.

  61. argh on August 10th, 2008 4:54 pm

    The way to measure people is not by the way they look.

    Maybe not, but still….

    But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
    Then imitate the action of the tiger;
    Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
    Disguise fair nature with hard-favour’d rage;
    Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
    Let pry through the portage of the head
    Like the brass cannon; let the brow o’erwhelm it
    As fearfully as doth a galled rock
    O’erhang and jutty his confounded base,
    Swill’d with the wild and wasteful ocean.
    Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
    Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
    To his full height.

  62. Kazinski on August 10th, 2008 5:09 pm

    Some of the worst defensive baseball players I have seen looked like they cared the most. Did Richie ever look like he didn’t care? I don’t remember Beltre with furious displays of emotion when he makes an error. Then you have players like Ozzie Smith and Mike Cameron that looked like they were just out to have a good time, all the time.

  63. msb on August 10th, 2008 8:18 pm

    i think the guy and physical talent and a 10 cent brain. he quit on this team.

    I wish I had the power to read minds.

  64. JR Ewing on August 10th, 2008 10:16 pm

    63. seems to me i was offering an opinion and not reading a mind.

  65. juneau_fan on August 10th, 2008 10:49 pm

    Anyone see the highlight of Jamie Moyer running the bases in his game? Now there’s someone showing emotion and caring! Makes it to third from a sac bunt (bunted properly, btw) on two errors, knocking the umpire loitering in his way on his ass in the process.

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