Game 119, Mariners at Angels

DMZ · August 12, 2008 at 6:05 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

The Bus vs. Garland. 7:05

I’ve been in Denver on a sort of working vacation (and sometimes ssh’d into USSM at crazy hours) and I have one thing I’d like to say:

They let you bring beverages into Coors Field. Anyone at Safeco Field who tells you that it’s anything but a naked attempt to inconvenience you and drive up concession sales (or, at best, security theater) is lying. Go M’s!

While I was gone:
– Turbo was thrown overboard
– Morrow left to try and become the starter we see in him
– RRS came up to take a rotation spot
– WFB got injured, possibly out for the season though I haven’t checked the news in a day or so
– Silva went off
– Drayer got fired

The roster stuff is great — I was so happy to see the team making these kind of moves — but as much of a rational, level-headed guy I try to be, I wondered if maybe Dave wasn’t going to ask me if I could perhaps relocate to Colorado starting with the 2008 off-season.

But I’m back! Ready to settle in and enjoy watching the M’s again, instead of the Rockies.

Comments

70 Responses to “Game 119, Mariners at Angels”

  1. Sinking Away on August 12th, 2008 9:13 pm

    Just guessing here, but Bedard can probably only through back-to-back once every twenty days or so. We’ll probably see him just once in August and September. What a wuss. Do they have to do those iritating fireworks after every homerun? It’s hard to see the next base hit with all the smoke.

  2. msb on August 12th, 2008 9:15 pm

    um, yeah.

  3. CaptainPoopy on August 12th, 2008 9:16 pm

    You have no idea what kind of pain Bedard is in. Only he knows his body. Only he knows his situation.

  4. Sports on a Schtick on August 12th, 2008 9:18 pm

    No mo save opportunity. Yay.

  5. Benne on August 12th, 2008 9:20 pm

    If I’m Lee, I just shut down Bedard for the year. There’s no reason to rush him back in the closing weeks of a lost season, and I’d rather make sure he’s 100% for the spring.

  6. msb on August 12th, 2008 9:20 pm

    damn Nationals & their 5 game losing streak.

  7. msb on August 12th, 2008 9:23 pm

    “Bedard told Larry LaRue of the Tacoma News Tribune that he wants to pitch again this season and go into the offseason knowing he’s at full strength.

    “You come to a new team and you want to show them what you can do,” he said. “The worst thing possible is an injury that keeps you off the mound. I know there are people who don’t believe I’m hurt. I don’t want to go into the offseason not certain I’m healthy. This year has been tough enough. I don’t want to go through a winter like that.””

  8. JR Ewing on August 12th, 2008 9:30 pm

    get bedard healthy, hopefully he’s good. then trade him, it’s very unlikely he wants to resign for 2010, so unless you think you can compete in 2009, why keep him ?

  9. Sinking Away on August 12th, 2008 9:32 pm

    Oh, I think we all know and appreciate Bedard’s pain. Every M is trying to pad their offensive stats, that’s obvious. He’s just as pained as we are with the results.

    Bringing in K-Rod for us? Oh please.

  10. msb on August 12th, 2008 9:33 pm

    gee. too bad they aren’t just one run down anymore.

  11. msb on August 12th, 2008 9:35 pm

    as bad as they Ms are, imagine how bad the Nats must be, to be that far back in the NL.

  12. tgf on August 12th, 2008 9:36 pm

    Every M is trying to pad their offensive stats, that’s obvious.

    As opposed to taking a principled stand to make lots of outs?

  13. MattThompson on August 12th, 2008 9:36 pm

    Good Lord, the save rule is dumb. Get one out before 4 runs score? SAVE!

  14. Mike Snow on August 12th, 2008 9:43 pm

    At this point, I’m simply in favor of anything that will take Bobby Thigpen off the record books.

  15. jordan on August 12th, 2008 11:30 pm

    Washburn cleared waivers.

  16. JMHawkins on August 12th, 2008 11:49 pm

    They let you bring beverages into Coors Field

    In theory, would they let you bring Budweiser into Coors Field?

    So, the M’s best CF is playing RF, the second best CF is playing DH, the worst OF is playing LF, and a corner OF is playing CF. Sounds like perfect Mariner logic

    This is why, despite my appreciation of Riggleman for putting Silva in his place the other day, I hope he remains “interim” manager and they find someone else in the offseason. He, frankly, doesn’t seem to have the foggiest clue about the skills of the players he is managing.

    You hate Valle? He’s nothin’ compared to having to watch the Angels broadcast and listen to the Hud!

    I was a bit distracted during the pre-game, but Rizzs was talking to Rex, and I’m pretty sure the Wonder Dog called him “Razz.”

    you know– if KOMO had, I dunno, a reporter covering the Mariners or something, maybe we’d know the results of Willie’s MRI today.

    KOMO dumping the rest of the season like that is pathetic. Stupid too. If I had ads running on the post-game show, I’d cancel them, or demand a partial rebate.

  17. Breadbaker on August 13th, 2008 2:48 am

    This is why, despite my appreciation of Riggleman for putting Silva in his place the other day, I hope he remains “interim” manager and they find someone else in the offseason. He, frankly, doesn’t seem to have the foggiest clue about the skills of the players he is managing.

    Although I made a similar point in the Silva/Riggleman folder, I think you’re being a little unfair to Riggleman. I do not believe that Riggleman is calling the shots on this. Remember, the announcement that Ichiro would play rightfield forever was made just days before McLaren was canned. Given that it is essentially impossible that McLaren would be allowed to make an announcement of that degree at that point in his Mariners tenure unless it was an organizational decision, not a managerial one, I think it’s pretty fair to conclude that a condition to Riggleman’s hiring was that he was not allowed to revisit that decision. Now, you could say Riggleman should have demanded that right, but I would suspect that if he had done so, he’d been unemployed right now.

    I can’t make the same circumstantial case for the Ibanez situation, but again, I don’t think Riggleman is wilfully blinded by Ibanez’s offense to seeing he has no defense. In fact, this remarks about the complete lack of a standard DH may have been his prisoner’s message to us all that he knows he has a DH, he just can’t put him in the position.

    The same may go for Wlad in center, putting Reed at DH, or even Reed in LF the day Ibanez was at DH. “We have to know if this guy can play center”, even if (a) Ichiro is more valuable to the team as a centerfielder; (b) Wlad is more valuable to the team playing his natural position; and (c) we’d have some pretty decent outfield defense with Wlad in right, Ichiro in center and Reed in left. Why do we have to know if Wlad can play center? Because he can’t play right because the organization has promised that to Ichiro regardless of who the manager is.

    Ultimately, the only way this organization is going to change is if the new GM and the new manager have enough clout to reverse that decision. If the people doing the interviewing are the ones who are behind the decison–Chuck and Howard–then that’s increasingly unlikely and we may be making the same comments in a year, or much longer.

  18. gwangung on August 13th, 2008 7:46 am

    Ultimately, the only way this organization is going to change is if the new GM and the new manager have enough clout to reverse that decision. If the people doing the interviewing are the ones who are behind the decison–Chuck and Howard–then that’s increasingly unlikely and we may be making the same comments in a year, or much longer.

    More organizational meddling by people who don’t know what they’re doing? I’m SHOCKED!

  19. JMHawkins on August 13th, 2008 8:50 am

    Although I made a similar point in the Silva/Riggleman folder, I think you’re being a little unfair to Riggleman. I do not believe that Riggleman is calling the shots on this… I think it’s pretty fair to conclude that a condition to Riggleman’s hiring was that he was not allowed to revisit that decision. Now, you could say Riggleman should have demanded that right, but I would suspect that if he had done so, he’d been unemployed right now.

    Ichiro playing RF instead of CF I can understand. He played there for several years and has been struggling with a sore hamstring. If that was the only questionable decision, I’d have no problem. Hell, if Ichiro DH’d for a spell, I’d chalk it up to the hamstring and conclude it’s probably a good idea.

    But that’s just one of several misuses of talent. If Ichiro isn’t the CF, then Reed should be. And if Ichiro isn’t the DH, then Ibanez should be. When Vidro was in the lineup, he should’ve been hitting 8th or 9th, not cleanup. And so on and so forth, to borrow a phrase from McClaren.

    Are Lincoln, Armstrong and Pelekoudos really calling all these shots? If so, then what exactly is Riggleman’s job? Talking to the press? I thought that was what they paid Silva for (cause his pitching sure ain’t worth what they pay him. Ba-dump!).

  20. Sports on a Schtick on August 13th, 2008 9:47 am

    Washburn claimed on waivers! Get it done Lee!

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