Game 119, Mariners at Angels
The Bus vs. Garland. 7:05
I’ve been in Denver on a sort of working vacation (and sometimes ssh’d into USSM at crazy hours) and I have one thing I’d like to say:
They let you bring beverages into Coors Field. Anyone at Safeco Field who tells you that it’s anything but a naked attempt to inconvenience you and drive up concession sales (or, at best, security theater) is lying. Go M’s!
While I was gone:
- Turbo was thrown overboard
- Morrow left to try and become the starter we see in him
- RRS came up to take a rotation spot
- WFB got injured, possibly out for the season though I haven’t checked the news in a day or so
- Silva went off
- Drayer got fired
The roster stuff is great — I was so happy to see the team making these kind of moves — but as much of a rational, level-headed guy I try to be, I wondered if maybe Dave wasn’t going to ask me if I could perhaps relocate to Colorado starting with the 2008 off-season.
But I’m back! Ready to settle in and enjoy watching the M’s again, instead of the Rockies.
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I was at the Rockies game on friday, when they had the hour-long rain delay, and was pretty fascinated watching them work the tarps. I’ve only ever been to games at the Kingdome and Safeco, so I’ve never seen the process. Also, I had no idea there are three different varieties of Blue Moon.
Baseball just isn’t the same without a Mac&Jack’s, though.
At Yankee Stadium they won’t even let you bring in sunblock. Which of course they charge an exorbitant price for inside. And of course it’s in the name of “security”; never mind that the only place you’ll find bombs made by people mixing liquids is in movies (and I don’t think even the movies have stretched credulity enough to have bombs made of sunblock [or even a "sunblock-like substance"]).
Could not agree more RE: Mack and Jacks.
Also, this Texas/Boston game is epic. I wish the Mariners could score that many runs.
Boy, that Sox Rangers game tonight is crazy wild.
Reminds me of that game the M’s blew against the Indians a few years ago.
Red Sox had leads of 10-0, and 12-2.
Check out the game graph.
“they say the one thing [Bavasi] did was rebuild the farm season, and how are you go to know that other than by wins and losses?”–Gas.
“I would like to get to 100 wins before I get to 100 losses. I know I’m getting closer to the wins being the same as losses, and when I got here, it wasn’t anywhere close.” The Bus is 98-97. hopefully loss 100 comes with the Yankees.
Is Reed dinged up? That is the only conceivable reason I can see to have him DH and leave Wlad to play CF.
Ichiro–RF
Reed–DH (?)
Ibanez–LF
Beltre–3B
Lopez–2B
Clement–C
Wlad–CF
LaHair–1B
Yuni–SS
Reed might be hurting, but I think that the club wants to see if Balentien can handle CF. Most of us here already know the answer.
Is that Valle? I didn’t come back to Seattle to listen to Dave Valle.
Wasn’t the Bus supposed to be claimed off waivers by now?
I see that Ichiro is selfishly padding is putout stats.
Freakin’ Paul Byrd got taken before him! Byrd! Old man wind-up Byrd!
Who’s the umpire? Whoever it is, I don’t like him.
So, the M’s best CF is playing RF, the second best CF is playing DH, the worst OF is playing LF, and a corner OF is playing CF. Sounds like perfect Mariner logic.
Maybe you got a cool employee or something. I thought I saw rules similar to those at Safeco and here’s what the Rockies’ site says…
“No one is permitted to enter Coors Field with glass bottles or aluminum or metal cans. Guests in possession of these items inside the gates of Coors Field may be subject to ejection from the ballpark.”
Angel killer Ibanez time.
Beltre is just selfishly trying to pad his RBI totals.
Love to see the M’s hitting bad pitches.
Let’s see how long the wheels stay on the bus with a 3 run lead…
Hopefully he gets his 99th win…
Clement’s gotta make that catch.
I know that’s a tough play, but more evidence against Clement as a catcher?
You have to catch foul balls and popups at 1B too
WHEW! Look at Washburn strike out Vlad. Clutch!!
The Texas-Boston game just went final. That’s a crazy game graph
Plastic bottles, man.
You have to catch foul balls and popups at 1B too
That’s true, but it’s the straight-up-and-straight-down kind that are especially challenging. Out in the field, it’s noticeably easier to track the ball off the bat, plus you’re not springing out of a crouch and then trying to get a bead on the ball.
Speaking of Texas-Boston, I didn’t realize Jason Ellison had resurfaced.
Hi people. New guy here. Given my log-in name, you may be able to guess who’s my favorite Mariner. I’ll try to not be an idiot, but perhaps I’m already too far gone to avoid that. I mean, I’m a Mariners fan, I still pay valid currency to attend games and eat concession foods and still hope they win. Though this comment doesn’t belong here (probably) my fear is that the Ms play decent ball the rest of the year and nothing much happens in the off-season. Okay. I’ll just listen now.
Holy crap, I hate listening to Valle so much.
ignite me SunDevil1 !
That’s it, I’m turning off the sound. You’re a terrible color person, Valle, and possess all of the insight of a sock. And not one of those sharp crew socks, either.
I’m an M’s fan too. I doubt that they’ll play decent ball the rest of the year, why would they want to start now? The FO has known for several years they’re not competitive, they don’t care as long as they can sell some seats and beers. It’s all about money and as long as it’s coming in they don’t have to be any good at what they do.
You hate Valle? He’s nothin’ compared to having to watch the Angels broadcast and listen to the Hud! I don’t know how Fire Joe Morgan avoids trashing him on a daily basis — seems like it’d be easier to do it than not. (Me: already muted.)
Trade Betancourt!
You go to war with the color guy you have, not the color guy you want.
oh, there’s Wash.
Mel: dammit, Bus.
I have long advocated that the only proper way to pitch to Vlad is to pitch him inside. As in toward his backside.
Jeez, I turned on the tv just in time to watch the wheels fall of the bus. (Must admit to being surprised at the score when tv turned on.)
coming in late, three of those runs were unearned?
So in theory, Washburn might still have some appeal to the desperate … provided there were any teams that desperate out there?
Vlad is like the hitting version of Pedro Martinez to this team.
oh, he’d still manage to hit it out.
I think the ‘fun-go!’ ad is cursed. I mean, look just who all are featured in the ad, and what has happened to them all this year.
coming in late, three of those runs were unearned?
Error by Betancourt, and the second run didn’t score until the second (i.e., should have been third) out was recorded.
That’s it I’m turning off the sound.
I’m turning off the video too.
So I’m just sort of watching while yakking on the phone, kind of surprised that Washburn had made it so far without a run, then noticed it was the 5th inning, and thought, time to start giving up the runs.
Which he did.
Theeeeeeeee wheels on the Bus come falling off,
falling off,
falling off…
say, did you know the Angels do all the little things right? and that Washburn had just the one bad inning?
sadly, it’s not much better on the radio side.
from the TNT on the weekend:
“I don’t know if we’ll see Willie again the rest of this year,†Riggleman said.
Bloomquist, of course, hopes that’s not the case.
“My goal is to be ready before the end of year, but I’m not going to be stupid about it,†he said. “I understand that my legs are my game. I need to make sure it’s healthy if and when I go back out there.â€
Bloomquist had a hamstring injury a few years back in his left leg, but he said the latest injury isn’t even close to the same.
“The last one felt like more of a cramp,†he said. “This one I could kind of hear and feel a pop.â€
I was just racking my brain for O’Flaherty’s status. In AAA and on the DL, I think.
AS for the FO not caring about wins, they sure care when losses mean fewer tickets sold, and that happens. I figure any loss means that much more angst in the FO and ownership, and perhaps more changes higher up.
you know– if KOMO had, I dunno, a reporter covering the Mariners or something, maybe we’d know the results of Willie’s MRI today.
Or how Bedard came through the back-to-back throw days.
Just guessing here, but Bedard can probably only through back-to-back once every twenty days or so. We’ll probably see him just once in August and September. What a wuss. Do they have to do those iritating fireworks after every homerun? It’s hard to see the next base hit with all the smoke.
um, yeah.
You have no idea what kind of pain Bedard is in. Only he knows his body. Only he knows his situation.
No mo save opportunity. Yay.
If I’m Lee, I just shut down Bedard for the year. There’s no reason to rush him back in the closing weeks of a lost season, and I’d rather make sure he’s 100% for the spring.
damn Nationals & their 5 game losing streak.
“Bedard told Larry LaRue of the Tacoma News Tribune that he wants to pitch again this season and go into the offseason knowing he’s at full strength.
“You come to a new team and you want to show them what you can do,” he said. “The worst thing possible is an injury that keeps you off the mound. I know there are people who don’t believe I’m hurt. I don’t want to go into the offseason not certain I’m healthy. This year has been tough enough. I don’t want to go through a winter like that.”"
get bedard healthy, hopefully he’s good. then trade him, it’s very unlikely he wants to resign for 2010, so unless you think you can compete in 2009, why keep him ?
Oh, I think we all know and appreciate Bedard’s pain. Every M is trying to pad their offensive stats, that’s obvious. He’s just as pained as we are with the results.
Bringing in K-Rod for us? Oh please.
gee. too bad they aren’t just one run down anymore.
as bad as they Ms are, imagine how bad the Nats must be, to be that far back in the NL.
As opposed to taking a principled stand to make lots of outs?
Good Lord, the save rule is dumb. Get one out before 4 runs score? SAVE!
At this point, I’m simply in favor of anything that will take Bobby Thigpen off the record books.
Washburn cleared waivers.
In theory, would they let you bring Budweiser into Coors Field?
This is why, despite my appreciation of Riggleman for putting Silva in his place the other day, I hope he remains “interim” manager and they find someone else in the offseason. He, frankly, doesn’t seem to have the foggiest clue about the skills of the players he is managing.
I was a bit distracted during the pre-game, but Rizzs was talking to Rex, and I’m pretty sure the Wonder Dog called him “Razz.”
KOMO dumping the rest of the season like that is pathetic. Stupid too. If I had ads running on the post-game show, I’d cancel them, or demand a partial rebate.
Although I made a similar point in the Silva/Riggleman folder, I think you’re being a little unfair to Riggleman. I do not believe that Riggleman is calling the shots on this. Remember, the announcement that Ichiro would play rightfield forever was made just days before McLaren was canned. Given that it is essentially impossible that McLaren would be allowed to make an announcement of that degree at that point in his Mariners tenure unless it was an organizational decision, not a managerial one, I think it’s pretty fair to conclude that a condition to Riggleman’s hiring was that he was not allowed to revisit that decision. Now, you could say Riggleman should have demanded that right, but I would suspect that if he had done so, he’d been unemployed right now.
I can’t make the same circumstantial case for the Ibanez situation, but again, I don’t think Riggleman is wilfully blinded by Ibanez’s offense to seeing he has no defense. In fact, this remarks about the complete lack of a standard DH may have been his prisoner’s message to us all that he knows he has a DH, he just can’t put him in the position.
The same may go for Wlad in center, putting Reed at DH, or even Reed in LF the day Ibanez was at DH. “We have to know if this guy can play center”, even if (a) Ichiro is more valuable to the team as a centerfielder; (b) Wlad is more valuable to the team playing his natural position; and (c) we’d have some pretty decent outfield defense with Wlad in right, Ichiro in center and Reed in left. Why do we have to know if Wlad can play center? Because he can’t play right because the organization has promised that to Ichiro regardless of who the manager is.
Ultimately, the only way this organization is going to change is if the new GM and the new manager have enough clout to reverse that decision. If the people doing the interviewing are the ones who are behind the decison–Chuck and Howard–then that’s increasingly unlikely and we may be making the same comments in a year, or much longer.
More organizational meddling by people who don’t know what they’re doing? I’m SHOCKED!
Ichiro playing RF instead of CF I can understand. He played there for several years and has been struggling with a sore hamstring. If that was the only questionable decision, I’d have no problem. Hell, if Ichiro DH’d for a spell, I’d chalk it up to the hamstring and conclude it’s probably a good idea.
But that’s just one of several misuses of talent. If Ichiro isn’t the CF, then Reed should be. And if Ichiro isn’t the DH, then Ibanez should be. When Vidro was in the lineup, he should’ve been hitting 8th or 9th, not cleanup. And so on and so forth, to borrow a phrase from McClaren.
Are Lincoln, Armstrong and Pelekoudos really calling all these shots? If so, then what exactly is Riggleman’s job? Talking to the press? I thought that was what they paid Silva for (cause his pitching sure ain’t worth what they pay him. Ba-dump!).
Washburn claimed on waivers! Get it done Lee!