Game 141, Yankees at Mariners

Dave · September 6, 2008 at 6:10 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Ponson vs. Ryan Rowland-Smith.

In the spirit of Dave’s Graphing Weekend, and since a few of you guys liked the ones I did for Morrow’s start last night, here’s a graph of Rowland-Smith’s last start versus Cleveland. Velocity is still on the vertical axis and pitch count is on the horizontal axis.

There are basically three distinct areas where you’ll see mostly consistent values – his fastball in the upper 80s, his change-up around 80, and his breaking ball around 70. Despite the fact that he doesn’t throw very hard, as you can see, he throws a ton of change-ups to keep RH batters off balance. Against lefties, he threw 9 fastballs and 8 curveballs with no change-ups. Against righties, it was 48 fastballs, 33 changeups, and 9 curveballs.

The change-up is really the pitch that allows RR-S to get RH hitters off balance, and if he succeeds as a starter long term, that pitch will be the reason why.

Comments

51 Responses to “Game 141, Yankees at Mariners”

  1. joser on September 6th, 2008 6:32 pm

    Cool.

  2. Go Felix on September 6th, 2008 6:42 pm

    Great post Dave. This is the reason I’m addicted to your website.

  3. galaxieboi on September 6th, 2008 6:43 pm

    Aye. That’s neat you can see three distinct strata. I’m enjoying Dave’s Graphing Weekend (in addition to putting an offer in today on our first home!). Thanks a lot, Dave.

  4. msb on September 6th, 2008 6:44 pm

    Norm was on the radio yesterday, and commented that when he saw RRS three years ago in the minors, he didn’t think he’d make it as a starter ….

    and a note in Baker’s blog:

    “By the way, I just chatted with Shannon Drayer moments ago. She’ll be filling in for Brad Adam on FSN when the team heads off on its next road trip. She’s never done TV before. This isn’t permanent. Adam just can’t make the trip.”

  5. SequimRealEstate on September 6th, 2008 7:04 pm

    Good for Shannon. I wish her well.

  6. MattThompson on September 6th, 2008 7:08 pm

    I saw the note on Drayer, and am glad we’ll get to see her before, hopefully, she shows up on KIRO next season.

    And galaxieboi-congrats on the house. I hope they take your offer. I’ll never forget the day I bought my house. The night my offer was accepted, I remember going to bed, and being suddenly hit with “OMG I just bought a HOUSE!” Kind of a euphoria+panic moment.

    Finally, Dave, those graphs are great.

  7. msb on September 6th, 2008 7:09 pm

    I wish they’d stop saying that Betemit’s hit was “over Ichiro’s head”, as the only reason it was any where near Ichiro’s head was that he ran like a fiend to get near the ball …

  8. msb on September 6th, 2008 7:13 pm

    yeah, she looks like a life-time Yankee fan.

  9. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 7:23 pm

    I love that Dave says it should be caught, and then Raul doesn’t get to it…classic…

  10. cody on September 6th, 2008 7:26 pm

    A rock would have enough range to get to and catch Matsui’s “double.”

  11. joser on September 6th, 2008 7:28 pm

    Dave’s poor fiancée. “Honey, at the conclusion of our honeymoon I’d like to offer you a graph…”

  12. Joe on September 6th, 2008 7:32 pm

    Wow, did anybody catch the crazy Rays-Jays game?

  13. msb on September 6th, 2008 7:35 pm

    I love that Dave says it should be caught, and then Raul doesn’t get to it…classic…

    and then Dave corrects himself, and says, looking again he was wrong to say that it should have been caught, followed by Blow pointing out that a better throw would have gotten Matsui …

  14. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 7:43 pm

    Boy…no problems with the glove on that play!
    Hey is anyone watching this game?

  15. fishiam on September 6th, 2008 7:48 pm

    I’m watching. And there was just a play/call I’ve never ever seen in 40 years of watching baseball. Ponson called for interference in the rundown of Betancourt. It’s always fun to see something new after this much baseball in my life.

  16. Sinking Away on September 6th, 2008 7:49 pm

    Why was that a “productive out”? Yuni was in scoring position already.

  17. Joe on September 6th, 2008 7:53 pm

    Betancourt studied at the AJ Pierzynski school of baserunning, apparently.

  18. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 7:54 pm

    That was a strange play…but Ponson was in the way there…oh well..it was all for nothing anyways…*sigh*

    Go M’s I love it when we beat the Yankees and last night’s game is officially my favorite game this year now!!!

  19. G-Man on September 6th, 2008 7:55 pm

    There was a controversy over a call like that in a Phillies game, early this year (IIRC).

    Shane Victorino was caught off first like that, and turned toward second with a player almost in his way, perhaps a foot further out of the runner’s path than Ponson was in this game. Victorino veered off and purposely made contact with a fielder. He got the call.

    Reading the stories on it the next day, it seems the rule says that the runner can run almost wherever he pleases, so the call was right.

    So the runner should at least never try to avoid a fieder in that situation. He should hope for contact.

  20. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 7:58 pm

    Oky let’s see if Reed can get it done…I wish his bat would wake up, I like his defense over Wlad…

  21. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 8:00 pm

    Well there ya go…a double!!

  22. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 8:02 pm

    Ponson looks like he’s been hangin’ out with Silva at Sizzler…

  23. G-Man on September 6th, 2008 8:04 pm

    Oh right, I forgot about about AJ’s play.

  24. DMZ on September 6th, 2008 8:12 pm

    RIZZS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    (scrambling for remote)

  25. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 8:16 pm

    DMZ-

    I swear to god, I had the EXACT reaction…lol…

  26. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 8:17 pm

    It may seem petty, but I love it that A-ROD still gets booed every at-bat…

  27. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 8:18 pm

    Sucks that it was a homer, but RRS had a pretty funny reaction…

  28. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 8:20 pm

    Future Mariner first-baseman Jason Giambi? Oh wait, Chuck says they won’t sign any big money free-agents…riiiiiiight….

    And someone get The Bus away from Morrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. scott19 on September 6th, 2008 8:25 pm

    I know they’re not supposed to play “plate music” for the visiting players as a rule, but I think it’d be hilarious if the sound tech would throw on Madonna’s “Into The Groove” for A-Rod every time he stepped up for an at-bat. :)

    “Ponson looks like he’s been hangin’ out with Silva at Sizzler…”

    -Too funny, BJ!

  30. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Didn’t some sound tech get fired a few years ago for playing music about the pitchers ex-wife or something?

  31. Breadbaker on September 6th, 2008 8:30 pm

    He’s working on his timing, no question about it.

    ::::like the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard::::

  32. MG8222 on September 6th, 2008 8:32 pm

    [Rizzs]

  33. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 8:32 pm

    Good call…

  34. pgreyy on September 6th, 2008 8:32 pm

    This man can have as many U’s as he wants.

  35. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 8:33 pm

    RRRAAAAUUULLL!!!
    Gawd I’m gonna miss this guy next year…

  36. kyoko on September 6th, 2008 8:33 pm

    Rauuul!!!!

  37. Breadbaker on September 6th, 2008 8:33 pm

    Exactly 100 RBI for the year.

  38. scott19 on September 6th, 2008 8:33 pm

    Bako: Not sure if that ever happened or not, but it might have. My guess on that would be playing a Whitesnake song during one of Chuck Finley’s starts back in the 90′s…

    Oh, BTW, good job RAUUUUUUUL!!!

  39. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 8:36 pm

    They used to play ‘Werewolves of London’ for Raul when he was with the Royals….does that count?

  40. scott19 on September 6th, 2008 8:37 pm

    Nice work tonight, RRS!

  41. scott19 on September 6th, 2008 8:41 pm

    Too bad these two rotations were off by a day…they could’ve billed Sir Sidney vs. The Burger Chef as a WBC heavyweight title bout!

  42. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 8:43 pm

    ..and then when Silva gets his azz whooped he would just blame his team mates for their lack of support…

  43. joser on September 6th, 2008 8:45 pm

    Actually Washburn vs Ponson would’ve been a good matchup too, given that Ponson is the guy the Yankees picked up for the spot they were going to give to Washburn (if they could’ve agreed to terms, ie if Cashman had offered Armstrong whatever delusional value he thought he should get for Washburn).

  44. BillyJive on September 6th, 2008 8:48 pm

    Well..there goes the lead…damn I was hoping we could get RRS a win tonight

  45. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 8:49 pm

    scott19-

    That was it!!!!

  46. scott19 on September 6th, 2008 8:51 pm

    I agree — especially considering that Mussina should probably be able to beat Silva tomorrow blindfolded and hog-tied.

  47. MattThompson on September 6th, 2008 9:26 pm

    Well, crud. Clement is done for the year, and will be having knee surgery on Monday. As per Dave on the radio.

  48. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 9:39 pm

    Well thank God we signed Joh to that extension!

  49. msb on September 6th, 2008 9:43 pm

    sheesh. it was 1-0 when I left.

    Baker adds: “Clement has a torn meniscus in the knee that’s prevented him from playing of late.”

  50. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 9:45 pm

    Yuni is soooooooo bad…

    We had such high hopes for the “future gold-glove winning all-star…”

    And Cairo is the pinch-hitter…wow…

  51. bakomariner on September 6th, 2008 9:47 pm

    Oh well, at least the NFL starts for real tomorrow…night all…

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