Elias rankings are up; Ibanez is type A

Jeff Nye · November 1, 2008 at 5:21 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Best link I could find is here.

Jack, take advantage of the system; show us what you can do and get us back some nice draft picks.


30 Responses to “Elias rankings are up; Ibanez is type A”

  1. msb on November 1st, 2008 5:24 pm


  2. bakomariner on November 1st, 2008 5:49 pm

    Will the Ms lose a draft pick for signing Griffey? Sucks that they might sign him, but it’s probably going to happen.

  3. Mike Snow on November 1st, 2008 5:55 pm

    Griffey is Type B, so no, they wouldn’t.

  4. Westside guy on November 1st, 2008 7:02 pm

    Anyone else notice that Jamie Moyer was also included in that list?

  5. Rico03 on November 1st, 2008 7:45 pm

    [poor quality]

  6. Rico03 on November 1st, 2008 7:49 pm


  7. Benne on November 1st, 2008 8:22 pm

    Let’s keep the Griffey discussion in the other thread.

    I’ll miss Rauuuuuullll, but on a purely baseball level, taking the draft picks makes too much sense.

  8. Carson on November 1st, 2008 9:46 pm

    I’m wondering, was there any question that Ibanez would be Type A? Also, is it people who decide this, or is there some sort of formula based on stats?

    Sorry this is late, but Happy Halloween
    Ich-O-Lantern #1
    Ich-O-Lantern #2

  9. msb on November 1st, 2008 10:01 pm

    it is cumulative performance in the two most recent seasons– from USA Today last year:

    “The rankings, which cover a two-year period, were established by the players union and management as part of their settlement of the 1981 player strike.

    Although draft-pick compensation changed with the recently approved collective bargaining agreement, the rankings are used to determine whether players are Type “A,” “B” or “C” free agents. Their classification determines which draft picks a former team receives as compensation if the player signs with another team. The top 30% in each group get an “A” ranking, the next 20% a “B” ranking and the group between 50% and 60% a “C” ranking.”

  10. msb on November 1st, 2008 10:48 pm

    WFB also filed. I’m not sanguine that he would also bring 2 draft picks.

  11. Wishhiker on November 1st, 2008 10:53 pm

    According to the article linked at the top it’s now top 20%;Type A, next 20%; Type B and all others unclassified.

  12. Wishhiker on November 1st, 2008 11:01 pm

    And I noticed Fuentes more than I noticed Moyer. With Moyer at least the return wasn’t our starting 3B hack-master…

  13. Jeff Nye on November 1st, 2008 11:16 pm

    I’m not going to edit any posts to this point, but what Benne said; there’s an entire thread for Griffey dicussion. Keep it out of this one.

  14. Typical Idiot Fan on November 1st, 2008 11:56 pm

    Zduriencik also plucked an independent league free agent who used to be a Brewer draft pick: Steve Moss.

    Seattle Times had a link then yoinked it. Saw an article on Brewerfan.net’s forums but for the sake of the rules I wont repost it here.

  15. wabbles on November 2nd, 2008 2:38 am

    What a difference a decade makes. Some of those Type B free agents would be tempting it if it still were 1998. It’s disappointing that Elias doesn’t measure grittiness and hustle so we can get a draft pick when WFB signs elsewhere. The one intriguing name on the list, especially since his departure was the beginning of the end for the franchise, is Cameron. Maybe sign him and stick him in a corner OF spot? Anybody?

  16. scott19 on November 2nd, 2008 3:34 am

    I’d maybe consider Cammie for LF under a reasonable contract…he’d certainly be more mobile out there yet than either Raul or Junior.

  17. abender20 on November 2nd, 2008 9:29 am

    The fortunate aspect of having a new GM is that he doesn’t have to feel personal attachment to players and should be able to view their dealings more objectively. Hopefully this will allow Zduriencik to handle Ibanez dealings with the best interest of the team’s future in mind.

    As far as free agent signings go, it would be insane for the M’s to take any type A’s on that aren’t still on the rise as far as playing future. Signing any older Type A’s will make me crazy.

  18. Westside guy on November 2nd, 2008 11:34 am

    I agree that having a GM from the outside is helpful – and while he’ll hopefully evaluate Ibanez objectively, I wonder if it might be more important that he evaluate people like Bloomquist objectively!

  19. theraven on November 2nd, 2008 1:12 pm

    Looking at the list, and considering that ’09 will most likely be a losing year, I think we should go with the “turn back the clock” team. We could have:

  20. scott19 on November 2nd, 2008 2:42 pm

    Geez, maybe they could change their name to the Seattle Hoverounds!

  21. wabbles on November 2nd, 2008 4:56 pm

    Yeah, ya know, I think I misspoke. It’s a lot of TYPE A free agents who would have been attractive a decade ago. As I read somewhere, the players you wouldn’t want to take even if you didn’t lose draft choices.

  22. Bad Moon on November 2nd, 2008 8:19 pm

    The shambling corpse of Jason Veritek’s career is a Type A? Really?

  23. Jeff Nye on November 2nd, 2008 10:03 pm

    Yep, and that’s why this is a broken system that any smart GM who has a Type A free agent on that list should be exploiting the hell out of.

  24. Carson on November 2nd, 2008 10:30 pm

    Wow. The Red Sox have no choice but to offer him arb now.

    So, no comments on my awesome Ich-O-Lantern?

  25. ajdaddy on November 3rd, 2008 9:21 am

    A tidbit from Jon Heyman’s SI column:

    New Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik is said to realize the mammoth task before him. His first order of business for the first franchise to spend $100 million and lose 100 games (the spent $120 million and lost 101) is to pick a new manager, and he’s said to have formed his list already. Bobby Valentine, who was the Mets’ Triple-A manager when Zduriencik was farm director, would be the call here.

    Bobby V would keep things interesting, that’s for sure! And I think it would keep Ichiro and Kenji happy…

  26. turkeycave on November 3rd, 2008 9:47 am

    I live in Phoenix and sat behind Orlando Hudson at the Suns game Saturday. When asked if he had talked to Seattle yet, he said he’d listen but that “They need to re-sign Ibanez.” I said maybe if he’s only playing DH, and let him know that Safeco was built for lefties (or switch hitters). He was wearing a brace on his left wrist. He was very polite and friendly. He also said we have a great middle infield, so his evaluative techniques may be dated.

    Dan Z

  27. msb on November 3rd, 2008 10:51 am

    Heyman has been trying to get the M’s sign Valentine all season

  28. scott19 on November 3rd, 2008 2:13 pm

    Bobby V would keep things interesting, that’s for sure!

    Hey, if nothing else, Bobby V. could always come back up to the dugout of games he’s been thrown out of wearing a beagle-puss disguise! 🙂

  29. The Hamms Bear on November 3rd, 2008 3:08 pm

    The Brewers picked up Cameron’s $10M option so you guys can forget about that.

  30. joser on November 4th, 2008 8:15 am

    The Ico-latern was indeed awesome, but it was off-topic. Around here, we try to limit the off-topic discussions to “chemistry,” “clutch,” trading Ichiro, and all things Willie Bloomquist. If you’d been able to carve an unrealistic roster into the back of the pumpkin, then we could talk. But just an awesome carving of an awesome player? What can we say?

    (Next year we should have a carving contest. This year would’ve been fun, though — lots of fan-kins puking up their seed guts at the sight of a 100 loss season…)

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