Game 2, M’s at Twins

DMZ · April 7, 2009 at 4:56 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

5:10. Eric “The Interview” Bedard versus Nick “About to get cuffed around” Blackburn.

Griffey, as promised, moves to DH. Chavez takes over in left, and Balentien in right.

1. Chavez, LF
2. Gutierrez, CF
3. Griffey, DH
4. Beltre, 3B
5. Branyan, 1B
6. Lopez, 2B
7. Johjima, C
8. Balentien, RF
9. Betancourt, SS

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312 Responses to “Game 2, M’s at Twins”

  1. jvalentine on April 7th, 2009 5:03 pm

    Alright so I have the over/under of pitches seen by Betancourt tonight at 13.

    What are you guys taking?

    Go M’s!!!

  2. Go Felix on April 7th, 2009 5:05 pm

    I’m liking this lineup a little more than yesterday’s lineup.

    GO BEDARD!!

  3. Luc on April 7th, 2009 5:07 pm

    Alright so I have the over/under of pitches seen by Betancourt tonight at 13.

    What are you guys taking?

    Over for sure. I’m going with 4 PAs and 17 pitches seen. Gutsy, gutsy stuff.

  4. banestar on April 7th, 2009 5:08 pm

    Going under by a hair – I think he’ll only get 3 ABs.

  5. Luc on April 7th, 2009 5:08 pm

    Note: That was mostly sarcasm. Or hope. Either way it’s likely false.

  6. ScottBrowne on April 7th, 2009 5:09 pm

    Alright so I have the over/under of pitches seen by Betancourt tonight at 13.

    Under. Hell, I’ll say 10 or under for the entire game.

  7. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 5:10 pm

    I’m cheering for a Ronny Cedeno appearance!

  8. Go Felix on April 7th, 2009 5:12 pm

    Again with this crappy intro music? Please stop FSN this isn’t MNF.

  9. 95Ms on April 7th, 2009 5:15 pm

    Good, Jr at DH. Let’s go Wlad – be Wlad to the bone! It’s time young fella for you start putting it together. Here’s hoping.

  10. Luc on April 7th, 2009 5:15 pm

    Again with this crappy intro music? Please stop FSN this isn’t MNF.

    Thank you for mentioning that. I never thought that anything would annoy me more than Pink singing in place of Hank Williams Jr…but this girl? Terrible. They should play some tuba-man music instead.

  11. BoiseMoose on April 7th, 2009 5:15 pm

    At the risk of sounding like an old fogey…its only been two days, but I’m already sick of that lead-in “rock video”. She’s not a good singer (probably better than me, but I’m not the one on TV).

    Here’s hoping Bedard gets on the right track starting tonight.

  12. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 5:16 pm

    I’m taking the under.

  13. Go Felix on April 7th, 2009 5:16 pm

    ENDY!!!

  14. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:17 pm

    “Ichiro texting his manager, a lot of back and forth last night…” –Dave Niehaus, commenting on Ichiro’s absence from the clubhouse

    Wow, that sounds like quite the involved team player that the stats-chasing, individualistic, non-team-player Ichiro isn’t!

    All right, a lead off hit!

  15. joser on April 7th, 2009 5:19 pm

    Well, he’s no Ichiro, but Balentien at least can run. Should make things a little less painful for everyone — the viewers and Griffey’s knees.

    Nick “Who?” Blackburn platoon splits:
    vs RHB: 480 PA, .288 /.312 / .450, 17 HR, 13 BB, 63 K
    vs LHB: 397 PA, .307 / .359 / .442, 8 HR, 28 BB, 41 K

    Hey, Griffey sports this line against the guy: .400 / .400 / 1.200
    Guess we know why he’s in the lineup ;)
    Heck, Jeff Clement has a career .667 average against Blackburn. Call him up!

  16. banestar on April 7th, 2009 5:20 pm

    Franklin Gutierrez is the greatest acquisition of all time.

  17. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 5:20 pm

    M V P!

  18. Mid80sRighty on April 7th, 2009 5:20 pm

    Man, Endy keeps this up and Ichiro might find himself in the #2 hole when he comes back.

  19. aaronsawyer1 on April 7th, 2009 5:21 pm

    I love the new guys! 1-2 punch. Stick Ichiro in 3 hole and watch ‘em circle the bases.

  20. Mid80sRighty on April 7th, 2009 5:22 pm

    Franklin Gutierrez is the greatest acquisition of all time.

    Easy now…

  21. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:22 pm

    Way to battle, Junior…I didn’t expect this. “Little things” or not, I was expecting an easy out or a quick hit.

  22. jld on April 7th, 2009 5:23 pm

    I was traveling yesterday. Pleased to be on the couch with a beer, watchin’ the Ms. Great start with a single and a double from the new guys. Go Griffey!

  23. SeasonTix on April 7th, 2009 5:23 pm

    Griffey has a good eye at the plate … rarely swings at a really bad pitch.

  24. Lauren, token chick on April 7th, 2009 5:24 pm

    I am continuing to exert my mental powers on Yuni. (Perhaps rather than just “be awesome!!!” I should try “be patient!!!”?)

    This game is off to a suspiciously good start!

  25. Jay R. on April 7th, 2009 5:24 pm

    Nice to see the opposing pitcher have to throw more than 10 pitches an inning. Hope they keep the patient approach (or take the Griffey approach and foul everything off!).

  26. SeasonTix on April 7th, 2009 5:25 pm

    Yeah, I know he just popped out .. but he made the pitcher work, it wasn’t an “easy out.”

  27. Jay R. on April 7th, 2009 5:26 pm

    Wow, Dave’s eyesight is just about gone, isn’t it? Makes me sad to see him make glaring mistakes like that.

  28. G-Man on April 7th, 2009 5:27 pm

    And Dave Niehaus makes his first big faux pas of the year, crediting Beltre with a base hit when it was a sac fly.

  29. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 5:27 pm

    23 pitch first inning.

    I’m guessing an eight pitch second inning.

  30. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:31 pm

    Branyan! Throw to second first!><

  31. Paul B on April 7th, 2009 5:31 pm

    Maybe Dave hasn’t had his eyes checked in a year or more.

  32. Steve T on April 7th, 2009 5:31 pm

    Am I seriously going to have to listen to that zhook-cajonk noise for every goddamn batter this year? It sounds like a slot machine.

  33. banestar on April 7th, 2009 5:32 pm

    As this is the second game of the season, I believe that hyperbole is certainly in order.

    That having been said, it looks like the Mariners will lose in the World Series to the 162-0 Florida Marlins, despite Franklin Gutierrez winning two outfield Gold Gloves and posting a 1.667 OPS with 200 runs scored.

  34. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 5:33 pm

    K!

  35. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:33 pm

    Steve T–

    Don’t say things like that. If FSN is watching, they’ll soon add zzzz sounds as they roll over stats so they can have spinning slots!

  36. banestar on April 7th, 2009 5:34 pm

    Canadian-on-Canadian action!

  37. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 5:35 pm

    I love OF RANGE!!

  38. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:35 pm

    I love our outfield defense…

  39. Steve T on April 7th, 2009 5:35 pm

    Outfield defense!

  40. MattThompson on April 7th, 2009 5:35 pm

    Oh how beautiful to see a ball described as ‘headed for the gap,’ only to see not one, but two outfielders casually gliding to make the play!

  41. David Jones on April 7th, 2009 5:35 pm

    It’s nice to have an outfield defense…

  42. Paul B on April 7th, 2009 5:36 pm

    Ball hit in the gap and Franklin and Endy both were there in time. Wow.

  43. Paul B on April 7th, 2009 5:36 pm

    Ball hit in the gap and Franklin and Endy both were there in time. Wow.

  44. mariners23 on April 7th, 2009 5:36 pm

    It just does not seem possible that a fly ball can drop in that outfield.

  45. jkpurvis on April 7th, 2009 5:36 pm

    I was questioning if that last out was going to be caught, so it was a nice suprise when both Chavez and Gutierrez were there. This outfield will be fun to watch.

  46. Benne on April 7th, 2009 5:37 pm

    From what I’m seeing on Gameday, Bedard is hovering around 90-92 with his fastball. Curve looks like it has decent break. I was hoping he’d be at 93-94, but this is still encouraging.

  47. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:37 pm

    mariners23–

    Wlad’s in right. If Ichiro were there…I’d almost feel sorry for the Twins. Almost.

  48. ScottBrowne on April 7th, 2009 5:38 pm

    I need to get used to an outfield that can run down flyballs. My stomach dropped when Morneau hit that ball and I halfway expected Ibanez to hobble up to it and throw it in to the cutoff man as the run scored..

  49. Transient Gadfly on April 7th, 2009 5:38 pm

    Apologies if that has already been asked/answered, but does anybody know why the KIRO feed isn’t available in the Gameday Audio?

  50. Paul B on April 7th, 2009 5:39 pm

    I only hit the Submit button once. Honest.

  51. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:39 pm

    Kenji…GIDP on the first pitch is not how you regress to the mean.

  52. aaronsawyer1 on April 7th, 2009 5:39 pm

    “I’m guessing an eight pitch second inning.”
    6 pitch first batter = Lopez! Maybe a new mentality is spreading?

  53. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:40 pm

    Late to the party. Just in time to see Jo ground into a dp — great.

  54. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 5:40 pm

    Damn it Kenji. Did you attend the Yuniesky Betancourt School of Plate Discipline?

  55. Lauren, token chick on April 7th, 2009 5:40 pm

    Alright, off home and thence to the gym to be inspired by watching M’s round the bases. I hope.

  56. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:41 pm

    Transient Gadfly–

    MLB says it’s because they’re not getting the feed from KIRO. I suspect this might have something to do with the move to FM for their newsband and all the sports being on ESPN Seattle now. Probably some technical glitches that the combined brainpower of MLB and KIRO are unable to figure out. (Considering the folks in charge of MLB, this is not too shocking.)

  57. Lauren, token chick on April 7th, 2009 5:41 pm

    P.S.: SILENCE! Your negativity is only hurtful to my cause. Yuni: “My eyes… are rainin’…”

  58. Benne on April 7th, 2009 5:43 pm

    Free Clement!

  59. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:43 pm

    Thank goodness for MLB Extra Innings. Stuck in exile in L.A. but still can get the Seattle feed.

  60. Coolalvin206 on April 7th, 2009 5:44 pm

    Is it me or should Gutierrez be moved down in the lineup?

  61. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 5:44 pm

    I was off by one pitch; nine pitches even including a five-pitch walk. Gevalt!

  62. BoiseMoose on April 7th, 2009 5:45 pm

    Apologies if that has already been asked/answered, but does anybody know why the KIRO feed isn’t available in the Gameday Audio?

    This.

    I would like to know as well. They had the feed during Spring Training. Why not now? Is it available online somewhere else?

  63. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:45 pm

    Bedard is looking filthy early in the game. I am hopeful.

  64. joser on April 7th, 2009 5:46 pm

    I missed the game thread yesterday, but what a day. Walked home in warm sunny weather and stopped at my local bar instead. Everybody inside was watching the game, and they weren’t even distracted when the NCAA was put on the other TV (of course NC made that easy to ignore in fairly short order). It was almost a playoff atmosphere in the place, people talking about the game, getting caught up on the new guys, cheering Felix strike-outs. And commenting on Griffey’s weight — even the “I loved him when I was a kid” folks were admitting it was a bit painful to watch him out in the field now. But man, when he hit that home run, the place went absolutely Heath-Ledger-as-The-Joker batshit crazy. But Beltre’s defensive plays, and Lopez’ RBIs, and Gutierrez’s HR all got cheers as well. It was a lot of fun, and there were a lot of happy people. Of course, being sun-drunk, and the other kind of drunk, doesn’t hurt either, but a lot of people were really, really happy to be watching baseball and to see Griffey hit a home run.

    I know a lot of those folks will drift away until summer, and by then the M’s undoubtedly won’t look quite as good as they did yesterday (they certainly won’t be undefeated) but I have to say they stocked up a lot of goodwill in one game, at least in this little corner of the universe. As much as I was against the signing, and as much as I’m going to cringe every time he takes the field, and as much risk as there is that he won’t make it through the season with his legs intact, I’d have to say — purely from the perspective of winning back their audience in the NW — the M’s did the right thing by signing Griffey. That was a classic Mariners Moment.

    And I now return you to today’s game, already in progress.

  65. BoiseMoose on April 7th, 2009 5:46 pm

    Gahh… I’m a slow typer. Thanks hark for the answer.

  66. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:48 pm

    Bedard is looking in prime form now.. hope it lasts.

  67. aaronsawyer1 on April 7th, 2009 5:48 pm

    Sad that you were right, Breadbaker. GIDP from a vetran on the first pitch in the second inning? Sad. I want to like Kenji so much… help?

  68. joser on April 7th, 2009 5:48 pm

    Lopez’ walk by itself increased the M’s WPA by 3%. Of course that was more than erased by Joh, but still…. 3 RBIs yesterday (albeit in part thanks to a seeing-eye single), a monster in the WBC, could Lopez be finally living up to his potential?

  69. Luc on April 7th, 2009 5:49 pm

    Here comes a leadoff Yuni walk! I can feel it…………but not really.

  70. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 5:49 pm

    One team’s pitcher throws more pitches in one inning than the other team’s pitcher throws in 2. This was, in essence, the hallmark of the 2008 Mariners. It’s nice to see it going the other way, even for one game.

  71. banestar on April 7th, 2009 5:49 pm

    2 pitches! Awesome!

  72. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:50 pm

    Why do these guys always answer the quiz question right away, give us some time.

  73. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:50 pm

    aaronsawyer1–

    It was so easy in 2006 and 2007. I feel all alone after ’08 and here in ’09 loving him…

  74. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 5:51 pm

    Endy! Endy! Endy! Endy!

  75. SeasonTix on April 7th, 2009 5:51 pm

    Hey, I thought Endy Chavez can’t hit.

    WTF?

    LOL

  76. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 5:51 pm

    stolen base action!

  77. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:52 pm

    Nice! Stolen base right away, use that speed.

  78. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:52 pm

    Chavez: 2 for 2, SB, R

    That looks like a good game line, and it’s only the third inning!

  79. aaronsawyer1 on April 7th, 2009 5:52 pm

    Ibanez would have been able to steal that I think.

  80. crazyray7391 on April 7th, 2009 5:53 pm

    Wow, baseball that is FUN to watch. I can get used to this.

  81. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:54 pm

    Yeah, at night he could let himself in and take the base, no one would see him!

  82. aaronsawyer1 on April 7th, 2009 5:54 pm

    Just kidding about Ibanez. I’m buying a Chavez baseball card… do they even make those anymore?

  83. hark on April 7th, 2009 5:56 pm

    …are they pitching around Griffey?

  84. banestar on April 7th, 2009 5:56 pm

    Blackburn’s thrown a ton of pitches, I’d give Wakamatsu a dollar if this time through, he makes Johjima and Betancourt just watch them go past to use up his arm.

  85. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:56 pm

    Can’t believe it’s been nine years when Jr. left

  86. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 5:57 pm

    Adrian!

  87. aaronsawyer1 on April 7th, 2009 5:58 pm

    Walk Griffey to get to Beltre! I love it. Sexson was such a black hole in the line-up. Yeah, for new leadership and management. People are running from our strengths instead of attacking our weaknesses

  88. louder on April 7th, 2009 5:59 pm

    2 runs might be enough to win this game. You can bring in the new closer, Batista!

  89. beckya57 on April 7th, 2009 6:00 pm

    Hi everyone, I’m being distracted by the women’s NCAA final, so I’ve only seen parts of this game. It sounds like Bedard looks good–that could be VERY good news. WOO-HOOO! M’s Score! I too am SO happy to have people who can actually play the outfield this year (at least when Jr isn’t out there); I have been ridiculously happy ever since Endy Chavez was acquired.

  90. Steve T on April 7th, 2009 6:02 pm

    You know who Griffey kind of reminds me of now? Willie Stargell, in the late seventies – early eighties.

  91. Colty on April 7th, 2009 6:02 pm

    Bedard is making it look easy right now. (knock on wood)

  92. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:02 pm

    Good pitching, getting ahead in the count. That breaking stuff is nasty.

  93. MattThompson on April 7th, 2009 6:03 pm

    Yeah, Bedard’s breaking ball looks very good tonight. Promising sign.

  94. Luc on April 7th, 2009 6:04 pm

    I’m buying a Chavez baseball card… do they even make those anymore?

    Hell yeah. I just traded a ’96 Bobby Ayala for an ’08 Dusty Baker. Straight. That’s good solid stuff.

  95. DMZ on April 7th, 2009 6:04 pm

    Post-game preview:
    “So your breaking ball looked very good tonight, Eric, could you talk about that?”
    “Yeah.”

  96. Steve T on April 7th, 2009 6:05 pm

    Am I the only person who pronounces Bedard’s name “BAY-dard”?

  97. banestar on April 7th, 2009 6:06 pm

    I thought I just heard them say that this year there will be a Safeco Field bobblehead. That seems to defeat the purpose of bobbleheads.

    I also anticipate that the Gutierrez bobblehead will be highly sought-after by collectors, after his magical 2009 MVP season.

  98. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:06 pm

    We got Jeff Zimmerman to a MLC, woo?

  99. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:07 pm

    “How’s the shoulder?”

    “Fine”

  100. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 6:07 pm

    Post-game preview:
    “So your breaking ball looked very good tonight, Eric, could you talk about that?”
    “Yeah.”

    I hope you’re not making excuses for the inability of sportswriters to ask actual questions.

  101. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:10 pm

    It’s nice having who just make solid contact, go up the middle. That will go a long way in Safeco.

  102. banestar on April 7th, 2009 6:10 pm

    “Where do you expect to finish the season?”

    “St. Louis.”

  103. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:11 pm

    Wow, what baserunning! That’s sick!

  104. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:11 pm

    phew!!!!

  105. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:11 pm

    Wow! We got some speed on this team.

  106. banestar on April 7th, 2009 6:11 pm

    Wow. That’s the ugliest double I’ve ever seen.

  107. az sr softball on April 7th, 2009 6:12 pm

    Stuck in AZ trying to tune in on MLB Premium tv. Not working. Anyone else having any luck, or is it just me?

  108. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:13 pm

    Its like we have a huge offense! Endy!!!!

  109. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 6:13 pm

    Endy Chavez for President!

  110. Transient Gadfly on April 7th, 2009 6:13 pm

    Man. I know it’s not indicative of future performance, but the M’s are just taking advantage of everything.

  111. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:13 pm

    Chavez for President! (Wait…)

  112. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:14 pm

    Way to have that speed put pressure on the defense. Nice, nice, nice.

  113. jordan on April 7th, 2009 6:14 pm

    ENDY!!!! I have always liked him as a Met, now I am STOKED to have him.

  114. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:15 pm

    Endy is looking good so far. Why not a lineup of…?
    1. Endy LF
    2. Gutierrez CF
    3. Ichiro RF
    4. Jr. Griffey DH
    5. Beltre 3B
    6. Branyan 1B
    7. Lopez 2B
    8. Joh C
    9. Yuni SS

    Ultimate small ball?

  115. banestar on April 7th, 2009 6:15 pm

    Oh BABIP. Forget about you.

  116. Mid80sRighty on April 7th, 2009 6:16 pm

    Wait a second, how are we scoring any runs without any power in the lineup??? Oh, you mean there’s another way to score a run besides hitting the ball over the fence?

  117. jordan on April 7th, 2009 6:16 pm

    Btw- Mariners ink RHP Jeff Zimmerman to minor league deal, with intention of having him in Seattle sometime this year.

    Anyone else tired of this RHP thing already? MAKE AUMONT A STARTER!!!

  118. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 6:16 pm

    Three hits in a row by our 8, 9, 1 hitters, I love it.

  119. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:17 pm

    BIC–

    If you’re gonna stack three contact-and-run hitters in front of a slugger like Griffey, why not stack the bottom half the same way. Lopez, Yuni, Branyan, Joh, Beltre.

  120. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:17 pm

    Did I just see Bedard attempt a smile? Whoa…

  121. jordan on April 7th, 2009 6:18 pm

    I like this more..

    1.Ichiro
    2.Endy
    3.Gutierrez

  122. banestar on April 7th, 2009 6:18 pm

    Well, while you’re at it, why not a lineup of…

    1. Ichiro RF
    2. Gutierrez CF
    3. Griffey/Balentien DH
    4. Beltre 3B
    5. Branyan/Shelton 1B
    6. Lopez 2B
    7. Chavez LF
    8. Clement/Morse C
    9. Cedeno SS

  123. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:19 pm

    I like that actually. It comes down to whether or not Endy can be successful hitting second. He’s getting alot of pitches to hit right now. Won’t be like that with Ichiro on base.

  124. banestar on April 7th, 2009 6:20 pm

    If you’re gonna stack three contact-and-run hitters in front of a slugger like Griffey, why not stack the bottom half the same way. Lopez, Yuni, Branyan, Joh, Beltre.

    Erm, because putting one of your best hitters in the 9th spot cuts off far, far too many PAs. You were kidding, right?

  125. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:21 pm

    I dunno Jordan…

    I like this more..

    1.Ichiro
    2.Endy
    3.Gutierrez

    Endy has never shown any real ability with the bat.

  126. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:21 pm

    On ball three to Justin Morneau: “Looked like a good pitch…according to the Tracer it was a little high.”

    Does the tracer ever record balls in the strike zone?

  127. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:21 pm

    Bedard needs to throw more heat

  128. Steve T on April 7th, 2009 6:21 pm

    Bedard did smile. He caught himself though.

  129. Carson on April 7th, 2009 6:21 pm

    “Emerald Queen Casino Tracer” sure rolls off the tongue differently than “Joe’s Tracer.”

  130. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:22 pm

    I love defense, girlfriend thinks Franklyn is good looking, I said yes he does look great in center. d

  131. jordan on April 7th, 2009 6:22 pm

    That ball is by Ibanez for a run for sure.

  132. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:22 pm

    Does Ibanez even get to that before Cuddyer hits third?

  133. DMZ on April 7th, 2009 6:22 pm

    That’s a run + man on third at least if Ibanez is in left.

  134. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:24 pm

    I <3 Bedard’s curve.

  135. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:24 pm

    NASTY slider for strike two.

  136. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:25 pm

    Erm, because putting one of your best hitters in the 9th spot cuts off far, far too many PAs. You were kidding, right?

    I wasn’t. The mentality that you want “plate apparances” makes you wonder “why not just stack your best hitters up top? Ichiro, Beltre, Gutierrez, Chavez, Griffey…” It’s as asinine as saying the 9 hole is the place for a “second leadoff” man. If the top part of your lineup produces, the bottom part will get plate appearances. Sure, the top half will get more because you ultimately need to record outs, but let’s assume you get 162 less PA’s per year–one per game. It’s a questionable assumption (and I’d like to see statistical analysis of this, and I’m not sure if anywhere has the tools to actuall do so) that the heart of the order automatically has to be better. We batted Sexson in the five hole forever…contact hitters make more sense than power hitters working you’re way down.

  137. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:26 pm

    Bedard needs to throw more heat

    Like that 92-mph K to Delmon Young? Ask and you shall receive.

  138. Paul B on April 7th, 2009 6:26 pm

    Endy has never shown any real ability with the bat.

    See 2006. So, not “never”.

    But his ability does seem to rely a lot on beating out grounders.

    He is fun to watch, though. I started noticing him during the WBC.

  139. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 6:27 pm

    Nice to see Bedard work his way out of the jam. I’d love to see an easy fifth, though.

  140. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 6:28 pm

    Griffey might just raise our overall team OBP by about 20 points just by himself.

  141. Carson on April 7th, 2009 6:28 pm

    Are they going to talk about dousing GMZ and Wak with beer, then giving them a bottle of Dom every single inning?

  142. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:29 pm

    Why not put Branyan ninth, and just move everyone up one spot? I’m with hark on the PA thing, but why risk it? Just put a high risk (K)/high reward (HR) guy in at ninth. Puts the pitcher off balance towards the back of the batting order and sacrifices little from the rest.

  143. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:30 pm

    Why not put Branyan ninth, and just move everyone up one spot? I’m with hark on the PA thing, but why risk it? Just put a high risk (K)/high reward (HR) guy in at ninth. Puts the pitcher off balance towards the back of the batting order and sacrifices little from the rest.

    I like it!

  144. Paul B on April 7th, 2009 6:30 pm

    The traditional batting order (power guy 4th, etc.) is almost as good as putting the best hitter first, the second best hitter second, etc.

    I’ve seen studies that concluded that.

    That said, they also concluded that “who” is in the lineup is a lot more important than the order they hit in.

  145. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:31 pm

    Bedard needs to throw more heat

    Like that 92-mph K to Delmon Young? Ask and you shall receive.

    Yeah, he was starting to fall in love with the breaking stuff — his fastball is good tonight.

  146. MsFanInAustin on April 7th, 2009 6:31 pm

    Walk Griffey to Beltre pt. 2

  147. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 6:32 pm

    And Branyan gets off the schneid.

  148. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:32 pm

    I have tickets to Safe’s opening day. I will be one happy camper if A) the weather stays like this (doubtful) and B) the M’s keep playing like this (doubtful).

  149. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:32 pm

    Wow, that DP was sick. Even if was by the Twins.

  150. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:32 pm

    Crap! Could’ve put the game away.

  151. Pete on April 7th, 2009 6:33 pm

    Junior actually looked pretty good zipping from first to third there. Much less painful looking than I had seen in my head — I cringed as I saw Branyan line it down the line.

  152. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 6:34 pm

    Lopez needs to be fined every time he hits the ball to the left of second base.

  153. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 6:34 pm

    M’s keep playing like this (doubtful).

    Thanks for having faith in the M’s.

  154. tmac9311 on April 7th, 2009 6:35 pm

    man what is going on, have the twins secretly gotten awful, or are we just on complete fire? Chavez and Frankie are making us forget about Putz pretty quickly

  155. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:35 pm

    I wish I could man. This team just isn’t that great on paper. I can see a them potentially pulling a Tampa Bay-Lite though. In any case, knock on wood.

  156. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:36 pm

    What was I saying about more heat?

  157. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:37 pm

    KKKKKK

  158. finndawg on April 7th, 2009 6:37 pm

    Nice Strikeout! Wow, I kinda like this Bedard…

  159. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:38 pm

    I wish I could man. This team just isn’t that great on paper. I can see a them potentially pulling a Tampa Bay-Lite though. In any case, knock on wood.

    Tampa last year was good on paper, people just ignored it.

  160. CougJustin on April 7th, 2009 6:38 pm

    Bedard’s unbuttoned jersey is bothering me, but if he keeps pitching like this I can live with it.

  161. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 6:40 pm

    I wish I could man. This team just isn’t that great on paper. I can see a them potentially pulling a Tampa Bay-Lite though. In any case, knock on wood.

    We are improved this year that’s for sure. I laughed every time I heard baseball “experts” say Seattle had gotten a lot worse because they had lost Ibanez and Putz.

  162. banestar on April 7th, 2009 6:40 pm

    Erm, because putting one of your best hitters in the 9th spot cuts off far, far too many PAs. You were kidding, right?
    I wasn’t. The mentality that you want “plate apparances” makes you wonder “why not just stack your best hitters up top? Ichiro, Beltre, Gutierrez, Chavez, Griffey…” It’s as asinine as saying the 9 hole is the place for a “second leadoff” man. If the top part of your lineup produces, the bottom part will get plate appearances. Sure, the top half will get more because you ultimately need to record outs, but let’s assume you get 162 less PA’s per year–one per game. It’s a questionable assumption (and I’d like to see statistical analysis of this, and I’m not sure if anywhere has the tools to actuall do so) that the heart of the order automatically has to be better. We batted Sexson in the five hole forever…contact hitters make more sense than power hitters working you’re way down.

    If you honestly think that it would improve the offense by giving Adrian Beltre approximately 90 less AB per season (which is closer to the actual difference between batting 4th and 9th), you’ve got another thing coming. And honestly, I’m not convinced that batting your best hitter first (in terms of OBP, at least) is a bad idea. But feel free to try and convince me. I get that high SLG guys should hit with people on base, I’m just saying batting Beltre 9th is stupid.

  163. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:42 pm

    Tampa last year was good on paper, people just ignored it.

    Are we missing something here, too?

  164. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:43 pm

    Nice K, right when he needs it.

  165. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:43 pm

    .304 career BAA for Silva. Ouch.

  166. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:45 pm

    Where was that??????

  167. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 6:46 pm

    Wow ball 3 to Cuddyer looked really good.

  168. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:47 pm

    Are we missing something here, too?

    No ~.500 teams get hot too.

  169. finndawg on April 7th, 2009 6:47 pm

    we should have had that strike call earlier…hold on Bedard!

  170. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:47 pm

    Crap! Missed call by the ump really cost the M’s.

  171. BiC on April 7th, 2009 6:47 pm

    AB shoulda been over. BS.

  172. hark on April 7th, 2009 6:47 pm

    louder/smat–

    Yeah, no joke. Strike three. But ouch…

  173. xxtinynickxx on April 7th, 2009 6:47 pm

    Its Bedards to loose……..dont loose!

  174. CougJustin on April 7th, 2009 6:47 pm

    Umpire Chuck Merriweather missed it big time.

  175. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 6:49 pm

    I’m listening to the Twins announcers on Extra innings and they are having a fun time celebrating the missed call.

  176. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:50 pm

    Good comeback by Bedard. Wonder if he pitches the 6th.

  177. Mariner Melee on April 7th, 2009 6:51 pm

    Merriweather continues to be one of the worst umpires in the game.

  178. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 6:52 pm

    I’m listening to the Twins announcers on Extra innings and they are having a fun time celebrating the missed call.

    Blyleven feels Bedard’s pain…

  179. JerBear on April 7th, 2009 6:54 pm

    frickin umps, man.

  180. louder on April 7th, 2009 6:56 pm

    I didn’t think Bedard would go in the 6th. We’ll see how good the bullpen is here.

  181. Steve T on April 7th, 2009 6:57 pm

    Please don’t say “loose” when you mean “lose”. Thanks.

  182. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 6:59 pm

    Wow, another pitch right down the middle to Chavez and no call. At least he’s consistent.

  183. MsFanInAustin on April 7th, 2009 7:01 pm

    For those of you watching on MLB.TV, does the little red circle that pops up when there is a new highlight bug you as much as it bugs me? I feel like it’s an email I have to check or something. I hate clicking it, but I can’t help doing so to make it go away.

  184. DMZ on April 7th, 2009 7:01 pm

    The whole conversation is funny given Blowers’ utter horror in that last pre-season game at the prospect of not having umpires call balls and strikes.

  185. ScottBrowne on April 7th, 2009 7:03 pm

    And now is when it gets interesting…

  186. MattThompson on April 7th, 2009 7:03 pm

    I’m hoping that going to the pen in the sixth doesn’t revive last year’s “Bedard can only ever go five, what a wussy” talk.

  187. smatbte51 on April 7th, 2009 7:04 pm

    I’m just happy to see Bedard back pitching.

  188. NJ Ms on April 7th, 2009 7:05 pm

    here is a good web site for lineup stuff to see how many runs a team would score with obp and slg known

    http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-bin/LineupAnalysis.py

  189. msb on April 7th, 2009 7:05 pm

    I was attempting to chat on the phone, while seeming engaged & interested — so I did not imagine that Meriwether’s strike zone was rather low and called inconsistantly.

    hey! that’s the Slaughter Roy I remember!

  190. louder on April 7th, 2009 7:05 pm

    Corcoran is looking good right now. It would be nice to have a decent pen this year.

  191. louder on April 7th, 2009 7:09 pm

    I’m hoping that going to the pen in the sixth doesn’t revive last year’s “Bedard can only ever go five, what a wussy” talk.

    Hate to say it, but there was a drop off in the 5th in the quality of pitches (at least to me). OTH, one right call by the ump, and the outing would have great. Still, Bedard fought back after the call and came out of the game still ahead. So I would mark it a big plus for Bedard.

  192. sodomojo_1 on April 7th, 2009 7:16 pm

    Hey, to the guys who were talking about lineup analysis, if you have ever read The Book, there’s a whole chapter on it. They’ve got it figured out pretty good there, you guys should check it out.

  193. MattThompson on April 7th, 2009 7:16 pm

    Hate to say it, but there was a drop off in the 5th in the quality of pitches (at least to me). OTH, one right call by the ump, and the outing would have great. Still, Bedard fought back after the call and came out of the game still ahead. So I would mark it a big plus for Bedard.

    Yeah, but Bedard never really got stretched out in spring training, given the little aches and pains, so I’m not worried about one short start. He clearly was losing effectiveness, but let’s see if that’s still the case in a month.

  194. pgreyy on April 7th, 2009 7:18 pm

    YUNI!!!

  195. louder on April 7th, 2009 7:18 pm

    What a catch!! Great.

  196. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:18 pm

    Range?!? lol Gold Glove!!!

  197. jordan on April 7th, 2009 7:18 pm

    Wow.. nice play!

  198. ScottBrowne on April 7th, 2009 7:18 pm

    Yuni!

  199. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:18 pm

    YUNI THE MAGICIAN!

  200. doorbot on April 7th, 2009 7:19 pm

    Yuni! Nice play, just glad he didn’t have to make a throw.

  201. DMZ on April 7th, 2009 7:19 pm

    What is the deal with the bathtubs?

  202. finndawg on April 7th, 2009 7:19 pm

    great long relief pitching AND defense!

  203. NJ Ms on April 7th, 2009 7:20 pm

    nice Roy

  204. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:20 pm

    Has Cocoran faced three hitters or six? I’ve evidently lost count.

  205. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:21 pm

    Where’s the teams calling for that amazing defensive and slap stick hitting short stop? C’mon everyone!

  206. beckya57 on April 7th, 2009 7:21 pm

    Baseball Musings is indeed a good site, though I have trouble loading it on my computer for some reason. Wow! Nice play!

  207. JerBear on April 7th, 2009 7:21 pm

    MsFanInAustin – yes, that red highlight thing bugs the crap out of me.

  208. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:21 pm

    Has Cocoran faced three hitters or six? I’ve evidently lost count.

    6

  209. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:24 pm

    Thanks.

  210. msb on April 7th, 2009 7:24 pm

    Matt Guerrier is annoying.

    What is the deal with the bathtubs?

    Something I’ve long wondered. Sitting outdoors, in side-by-side bathtubs, just doesn’t scream “sexy” to me.

  211. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:26 pm

    Schick Shadel for treatment of hacking. Hmmmmm….I think I’ve got something here. I wonder what kind of aversion therapy that place would use….

  212. manny ortez on April 7th, 2009 7:27 pm

    How’s Aardsma looking?

  213. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:27 pm

    Aaaaardsmaaaaa!

  214. JerBear on April 7th, 2009 7:27 pm

    YUNI!!!

  215. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:29 pm

    How’s Aardsma looking?

    Like someone who can throw 95, without any idea where its going.

  216. msb on April 7th, 2009 7:30 pm

    Make up call?

  217. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:30 pm

    Cuddyer can shake his head all day long, K!

  218. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:30 pm

    Well, he got out the inning, thanks in large part to that strikeout call.

  219. FelixFan on April 7th, 2009 7:30 pm

    I love when there is a fly ball to the left field area and I don’t cringe in fear, as I did last year.

  220. louder on April 7th, 2009 7:31 pm

    Isn’t that four innings from the bullpen, and no earned runs so far? Nice start.

  221. louder on April 7th, 2009 7:32 pm

    Nichole is easy on the eyes!

  222. xxtinynickxx on April 7th, 2009 7:32 pm

    Put Aumont back as a starter, the bullpen looks fine!

  223. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:33 pm

    3 IP, but yeah! Hopefully Morrow gets us a 4th with 3 Ks

  224. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:33 pm

    It’s the ninth inning and Ayala is on the mound! Oh wait, he’s pitching for the Twins and it’s not Bobby.

  225. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:34 pm

    Yuni watching two close pitches!

  226. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:35 pm

    Whoops that’s Wladamir. My bad. I knew that looked funny.

  227. manny ortez on April 7th, 2009 7:35 pm

    The traditional batting order (power guy 4th, etc.) is almost as good as putting the best hitter first, the second best hitter second, etc.

    I’ve seen studies that concluded that.

    That said, they also concluded that “who” is in the lineup is a lot more important than the order they hit in.

    I think I know the study you’re referring to. If I remember right, the optimal lineup was highest OBP first, second highest OBP second, etc. Descending probability of making an out. (Question: why not factor in power to some extent?) That lineup was the best, but not by much. I too recall their conclusion that it made (surprisingly?) little difference what order the lineup was in.

    I’d flip Johjima and Balentien, personally–I believe, sadly, that Johjima is bad enough to warrant hitting in the 8-hole and using Betancourt 9th on a “second leadoff” theory. Apparently this is actually a valid theory (per the studies discussed by the previous poster(s)) but the gains are very slim.

    Also. Long time reader, first time in a long time poster. Hey guys! I promise to be good.

  228. FelixFan on April 7th, 2009 7:36 pm

    Is anyone watching on MLB Extra Innings? I genuinely hate these Twins announcers.

  229. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:37 pm

    Yuni tried to watch it, the umpire decided to throw his arms around.. Time to go home I guess?

  230. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:38 pm

    3/4 tonight, why don’t you just bunt. (rollseyes)

  231. louder on April 7th, 2009 7:38 pm

    Merriweather is brutal this game.

  232. xxtinynickxx on April 7th, 2009 7:39 pm

    Hi long time poster short time paying attentioner…..I’d like to know why Chavez just watched the ball rather then run?

  233. xxtinynickxx on April 7th, 2009 7:39 pm

    GUITZ!

  234. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:40 pm

    F R A N K L Y N!

  235. JerBear on April 7th, 2009 7:40 pm

    Yeah, I’d rather watch Yuni take that pitch than flail at it. Of course I’d also rather see the ump actually call it a ball…

  236. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 7:41 pm

    Woo hoo! Insurance! I might have to get a Gutierrez jersey this year.

  237. SeabassP on April 7th, 2009 7:43 pm

    Had to leave to drive home when the game was 4-0. I am a little surprised to see the score 4-3 with how well Bedard was pitching. Was he hit hard later in his start, or was he just nickeled and dimed?

  238. beckya57 on April 7th, 2009 7:43 pm

    Here comes Morrow…Remember, no bases on balls…

  239. hark on April 7th, 2009 7:44 pm

    Morrow! =D (You should still be a starter…)

  240. thowe1 on April 7th, 2009 7:45 pm

    and your future starter is now…. your closer?

  241. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:45 pm

    C’mon K’s!

  242. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:45 pm

    C’mon K’s!

  243. FelixFan on April 7th, 2009 7:45 pm

    Bring in Morrow.

  244. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:45 pm

    How many more years is Morrow under club control? Three after this year?

  245. joser on April 7th, 2009 7:46 pm

    Morrow throws something other than a fastball? Who knew?

  246. R. Kelly on April 7th, 2009 7:47 pm

    Hopefully he can be a successful closer long enough for Aumont to come take his place.

  247. xxtinynickxx on April 7th, 2009 7:47 pm

    thowe1 on April 7th, 2009 7:45 pm

    and your future starter is now…. your closer?

    It happens, he has an illness that he has to cope with and he has chosen bullpen is the safest and best role for him right now.

  248. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:49 pm

    OMG I do not like Mr. Marriweather.

  249. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:51 pm

    ugh c’mon

  250. Breadbaker on April 7th, 2009 7:52 pm

    Dear Mr. Sims.

    The game is not “on the line” when there are two outs, two strikes on the hitter and a no one on base with a two-run lead.

    Thank you.

  251. hark on April 7th, 2009 7:52 pm

    …c’mon, Brandon. I love you already; don’t ruin it.

  252. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 7:53 pm

    Arggghhhhhhhhh

  253. wabbles on April 7th, 2009 7:54 pm

    ARGH It’s the area between the batter’s knees and armpits and rubber house-shaped thingy and it hasn’t changed since Little League. Throw strikes!

  254. AC on April 7th, 2009 7:54 pm

    While its obviously early in the season, I’ve been impressed with the approach that both Chavez and Gutierrez’s have had at the plate. Maybe this is what most league average hitters do on a regular basis, but I guess I’ve gotten used to watching yuni and friends the past few years. So, what do we do with them in the lineup after Ichiro comes back?

    Move Endy to 2nd and Gutierrez down after Lopez?

  255. JJD on April 7th, 2009 7:55 pm

    Hey Brandon – the plate is over THERE.

  256. louder on April 7th, 2009 7:55 pm

    Man, get the ball over the plate.

  257. beckya57 on April 7th, 2009 7:56 pm

    C’mon Morrow, this is NOT what I wanted to see…

  258. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 7:57 pm

    This is 2007 all over again.

  259. Axtell on April 7th, 2009 7:57 pm

    These balls aren’t even close to being strikes…good god I can’t handle this inability to throw strikes!

  260. thowe1 on April 7th, 2009 7:58 pm

    Yeah, I can see his illness very well right now. Kind of like that piece of spinach in your bosses teeth that he won’t pick out after lunch.

    Throw the ball over the plate damn it!!!

  261. hark on April 7th, 2009 7:59 pm

    =(

  262. JerBear on April 7th, 2009 7:59 pm

    You’re killin me, Morrow!

  263. Mid80sRighty on April 7th, 2009 8:00 pm

    Was that Ricky Vaughn out there?

  264. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 8:01 pm

    Great, put him back in the effing rotation. If he can’t handle the Twins in the Metrodome with a 2 run lead and players who can’t hit home runs, he can’t close. Get him out of there. Stop this silly closing game.

  265. louder on April 7th, 2009 8:02 pm

    Oh man, this can’t be happening.

  266. Jordan 'JWay' Gillis on April 7th, 2009 8:02 pm

    Great, put him back in the effing rotation. If he can’t handle the Twins in the Metrodome with a 2 run lead and players who can’t hit home runs, he can’t close. Get him out of there. Stop this silly closing game.

  267. ScottBrowne on April 7th, 2009 8:08 pm

    Isn’t that more or less how the second game of last year ended? Wow.

  268. MattThompson on April 7th, 2009 8:08 pm

    Well, bleh.

  269. Kid_A on April 7th, 2009 8:09 pm

    (Silver-lining?) Maybe they’ll send Morrow back to the rotation.

  270. terry on April 7th, 2009 8:10 pm

    Boy if that colossal landslide of muck doesn’t cause a tsunami to decimate the USSMariner server, I don’t know what will….

  271. hark on April 7th, 2009 8:10 pm

    The ball was pretty consistently off the outside corner. I think in terms of “pitching out”, Morrow had a rousing success. Location is one thing…but he located too far out. Bring it back in 4 inches and you have strikes.

  272. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 8:11 pm

    WELL FUCK THAT. Great job Brandon. Way to go Miguel and the team on a freakin’ island.

  273. ScottBrowne on April 7th, 2009 8:11 pm

    Isn’t that more or less how the second game of last year ended? Wow.

  274. msb on April 7th, 2009 8:12 pm

    The game is not “on the line” when there are two outs, two strikes on the hitter and a no one on base with a two-run lead.

    he was just being prescient.

  275. The Hamms Bear on April 7th, 2009 8:12 pm

    That chopper to third is an out anywhere else.

  276. Nate on April 7th, 2009 8:14 pm

    dammit!
    that’s just perfect! first I have a miserable trip to the dentist, now after this game is in the bag, this happens. what’s next? a swift kick in the balls??!!!

    grrr.

  277. Nate on April 7th, 2009 8:15 pm

    dammit!
    that’s just perfect! first I have a miserable trip to the dentist, now after this game is in the bag, this happens. what’s next? a swift kick in the balls??!!!

    grrr.

  278. jephdood on April 7th, 2009 8:17 pm

    Even my wife who watches 2 games/year knew Morrow wasn’t ready to head north with the club. WTF.

  279. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 8:18 pm

    Great job Brandon. Throw some strikes next time.

    Can’t even knock Batista too bad for this debacle. Luckily USSM was down while I was furious. Now I’m just depressed. Silva tomorrow too!

  280. Nate on April 7th, 2009 8:19 pm

    oh, there you go. how about a double-post?

  281. finndawg on April 7th, 2009 8:20 pm

    good thing we didn’t draft Lincecum…Morrow will NEVER amount to anything – all arm, all headcase. I will forever hate Bavasi

  282. louder on April 7th, 2009 8:21 pm

    This was so bad, what the heck? I can’t even describe what I’m thinking right now, but it’s not good. CRAP!!!!!!!

  283. bratman on April 7th, 2009 8:21 pm

    I blame Sims – does he know anything about baseball?

    Who the heck says “The Mariner relievers have retired 11 in a row” right before the last out in the 9th.

    Stick to Football Sims.

  284. FelixFan on April 7th, 2009 8:22 pm

    Ouch

  285. hark on April 7th, 2009 8:23 pm

    Can’t even knock Batista too bad for this debacle.

    Though those runs are charged to Morrow, Fangraphs has Miguel at a -.821 WPA and Morrow at a -.082. I can knock Batista plenty. He was brought in to get one man out; that’s the hitter. Get him out, and the men on base don’t matter.

    I’ve always thought that getting charged a whole run for the men you left on base was stupid, and here’s a good example. Maybe we can do half-runs, just like football players can record half-tackles if it’s shared responsibility. Morrow and Miggy post similar ERAs then.

  286. hark on April 7th, 2009 8:24 pm

    good thing we didn’t draft Lincecum…Morrow will NEVER amount to anything – all arm, all headcase. I will forever hate Bavasi

    You’re wrong. Go home.

  287. tomas on April 7th, 2009 8:25 pm

    I’m sure glad Morrow’s ‘home.’ What a dump

  288. The Hamms Bear on April 7th, 2009 8:25 pm

    Dude, Batista threw more strikes than Morrow.

  289. The Hamms Bear on April 7th, 2009 8:28 pm

    Seriously, three walks with no sign he has it at all tonight vs. Batista inducing a grounder to third that wasn’t an out because of astroturf.

  290. hark on April 7th, 2009 8:29 pm

    Dude, Batista threw more strikes than Morrow.

    Yes, he did. And he recorded less outs. I’m not excusing three walks in a row, but if you think you can lay this loss all at Morrow’s feet your wrong. Blaming the man who recorded two outs and not asking Batista to step up and record ONE is wrong.

  291. jephdood on April 7th, 2009 8:31 pm

    Well, it’s best to get this crap worked out EARLY, I guess. Ugh.

  292. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 8:31 pm

    Batista got a groundball that didn’t convert into an out and gave up a single. I can live with that. It’s not his fault he was brought into a super-duper ridiculously high-leverage situation.

    That ninth was something straight out of the nineties.

    IT’S GRIFFEY’S FAULT!!!!!

  293. beckya57 on April 7th, 2009 8:31 pm

    The USSM guys warned us in a recent post that there would be nights like this. We’ve got a bullpen that has a lot of hard throwers with poor command, and Morrow is one of them. One of management’s big tasks this spring will be trying to shake out the mix. Morrow certainly didn’t help his case tonight, but we have to hope he’ll improve as the season progresses.

  294. Dayve on April 7th, 2009 8:32 pm

    That’s baseball.

  295. finndawg on April 7th, 2009 8:32 pm

    Hark – you don’t think Morrow is a headcase??

  296. ScottBrowne on April 7th, 2009 8:32 pm

    Morrow recorded those two outs with no one on base and a two run lead. Not saying it’s an easier, but I’m sure that’s a lot different in a pitchers mind than coming in with the bases loaded.

  297. jephdood on April 7th, 2009 8:32 pm

    If you’re going to be the closer, you need to get all three. Instead, we get EPIC FAIL. Not Batista’s fault.

  298. bratman on April 7th, 2009 8:36 pm

    The worst part is that I wanted Morrow to shut the door so badly to shut all the “he’s a pussy” naysayers up …

    yuck yuck yuck yuck ….

  299. hark on April 7th, 2009 8:37 pm

    Sports on a Schtick, The Hamms Bear–

    I’m not saying Morrow is blameless. But I will not acquiesce to the suggestion that Batista is.

    Batista got a groundball that didn’t convert into an out and gave up a single. I can live with that. It’s not his fault he was brought into a super-duper ridiculously high-leverage situation.

    You can live with that? Really? If he had come in with one out and gave up a single and that grounder, sure. Because then he would have contributed an out.

    Sure, it’s not his fault. But is what he’s paid for. To record outs when he’s asked to, and as he’s no longer a starter, that’s gonna translate into higher-than-normal leverage situations because that’s what happens late in games.

  300. The Hamms Bear on April 7th, 2009 8:41 pm

    But is what he’s paid for. To record outs when he’s asked to, and as he’s no longer a starter, that’s gonna translate into higher-than-normal leverage situations because that’s what happens late in games.

    Who are we talking about here? :P

  301. hark on April 7th, 2009 8:42 pm

    finndawg–

    No, I don’t think Morrow is a headcase. I think he’s a 23-year-old who was poorly developed in the farm system and been asked to fill four different “roles”–starter, middle reliever, setup man and closer–in his few seasons in the bigs. In 2008, he recorded 10 saves in 12 opportunities and posted a 2-2 record as a starter, including his opening start where he no-hit the Yankees for 7+ innings. While, not including tonight, posting a 3.72 MLB career ERA.

  302. Mr. G on April 7th, 2009 8:43 pm

    I think that one hurt me more than any other game in the past six years.

  303. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 8:43 pm

    No one is saying Batista is blameless. But Morrow is the one who royally screwed up.

    Batista pissed his pants. Morrow shit the bed.

  304. hark on April 7th, 2009 8:45 pm

    But is what he’s paid for. To record outs when he’s asked to, and as he’s no longer a starter, that’s gonna translate into higher-than-normal leverage situations because that’s what happens late in games.

    Who are we talking about here?

    Batista. But it applies to Morrow as well. As I keep saying, he’s not blameless. But neither is Batista. I’m not defending one and damning the other. I’m damning both while defending the one.

  305. louder on April 7th, 2009 8:49 pm

    Mr. G on April 7th, 2009 8:43 pm

    I think that one hurt me more than any other game in the past six years.

    Yeah, that one was like a baseball bat to the head. I had forgotten how bad a loss like that could be. Morrow, I don’t know, he has a million dollar arm, but the Mariners still can’t figure out what to do with him. What will probably happen is that he’ll get traded for some crappy triple A player, turn it around, and become a 20 game winner. Boy, this one was bad.

  306. ppl on April 7th, 2009 8:49 pm

    1998 revisted, hopefully only for a night.

  307. ppl on April 7th, 2009 8:49 pm

    1998 revisted, hopefully only for a night.

  308. finndawg on April 7th, 2009 8:50 pm

    I don’t disagree that he’s been thoroughly mismanaged by the M’s, however, I believe this loss is going to really affect him. Yes, he pitched well against the Yankees, but he’s been as awful as he’s been good. Youth? perhaps, but to me, he just doesn’t seem to have the head for it. I hope you’re right, I hope he can be managed to pitch well and have a role perfectly suited to him, whatever that may be. But I don’t think Im as optimistic as you are.

  309. Sports on a Schtick on April 7th, 2009 8:53 pm

    I think that one hurt me more than any other game in the past six years.

    This one is in the Pantheon, for sure. This Angels game was probably the most horrific I can remember in recent memory.

  310. Benne on April 7th, 2009 8:53 pm

    No one is saying Batista is blameless. But Morrow is the one who royally screwed up.

    Batista pissed his pants. Morrow shit the bed.

    More like “Morrow shit the bed. Then Batista walked in the room and dropped another turd, just to make sure it’s good and messy. Then he wrote a book about it.”

  311. MattThompson on April 7th, 2009 8:56 pm

    Wow. Yes, this was an ugly loss, but do we have to get into the whole ‘Why didn’t we get Lincecum?’ and ‘X, Y and Z SUCK!!11!! They’re all mental weaklings and pussies!’ already? Really?

  312. Pete on April 8th, 2009 11:22 am

    “If you’re going to be the closer, you need to get all three. Instead, we get EPIC FAIL. Not Batista’s fault.”

    jephdood and others…

    How old are you people? Seriously, have been following baseball for more than five minutes? This stuff happens.

    This thread is exactly why USSM should just eliminate comments.

    Over-reactions are a classic sign of an inexperienced fan. Don’t comment until you figure things out.

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