Game 10, Angels at Mariners

DMZ · April 16, 2009 at 6:06 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Jakubauskas makes his first start at home. FSNW.

Angels
3B-B Figgins
2B-R Kendrick
LF-L Abreu
CF-R Hunter
1B-B Morales
C-R Napoli
RF-B Mathews
DH-R Rivera
SS-B Izturis

That’s a lot of switch hitting.

Mariners
RF-L Suzuki
CF-L Chavez
DH-R Sweeney
3B-R Beltre
2B-R Lopez
1B-L Branyan
LF-R Balentien
C-R Johnson
SS-R Betancourt

Hmm. Hmmmmmm.

Comments

128 Responses to “Game 10, Angels at Mariners”

  1. lewis458 on April 16th, 2009 6:20 pm

    I just hope Wakamatsu is able to fall out of love with Endy’s bat when it cools off. Batting him 2nd against a LHP??

  2. Luc on April 16th, 2009 6:34 pm

    I like the lineup. I would probably swap Sweeney and Lopez. But the difference is negligible. Besides, I’m sure Wak is bound to hit Lopez third at some point. Hopefully get him out of all these sacrifice-your-PA at bats he’s had the first 9 games.

  3. joser on April 16th, 2009 6:34 pm

    Well, he did put Endy in CF to get Balentien’s bat into the lineup. That’s an interesting offense/defense tradeoff (with an opportunity for a late-innings upgrade when Saunders is pulled for a RH reliever).

    I think Wak is still trying to get a sense of the team’s strengths and limitations. He wasn’t kidding when he predicted they’d use “120, 130 lineups.” And he is clearly committed to giving everybody some time off (he’s probably going to have a hard time sitting Ichiro, though, given how many games he’s missed already). At least Wakamatsu is not fixated on “roles” and relying on “veteraness.” I’m pleased he’s willing to experiment and that he has the confidence (in himself and in the team) to do so; of course I’m even more pleased that the team has continued to win (because of or in spite of those experiments). I guess we’ll have to see what happens when the team has that inevitable three- or four-game losing streak.

  4. joser on April 16th, 2009 6:36 pm

    Apparently Lopez was proud that he led the league in sacrifices last year. I don’t think he minds, though maybe that spot in the order isn’t the best place for him

  5. msb on April 16th, 2009 6:37 pm

    Jakubauskas has ‘moxie on the mound’

    so says Rizzs.

  6. joser on April 16th, 2009 6:41 pm

    BTW, in case you missed it, Halos Heaven has a talented contributer who whips up game summaries like this. Ahhhh, there ain’t no freude like Schadenfreude.

  7. cougarcarp on April 16th, 2009 6:41 pm

    Hmmm no Griff or Gutti, think WAK is conceding this game since we’ve already won the series?

  8. Steve T on April 16th, 2009 6:42 pm

    For a second I thought you put NSFW instead of FSNW there. I laughed. I hope it’s not that bad.

  9. Steve T on April 16th, 2009 6:44 pm

    Moxie? That’s good. Some of our other guys are more like Coke Zero.

  10. DAMellen on April 16th, 2009 7:00 pm

    Benching Gutierrez against a lefty? With Jakubaskas pitching? I’m all for giving him the occasional day off, but we’re facing a righty tomorrow with a groundballer (I’m assuming his last start was a fluke) on the mound. Can’t we wait til then?

  11. Paul B on April 16th, 2009 7:11 pm

    Looks like Directv is going to cut to commercials right in the middle of the action again tonight. guess I’ll contact them again, but it hasn’t done any good so far. Maybe I should switch providers.

  12. DMZ on April 16th, 2009 7:12 pm

    I tried last season to explain to them that their ad inserts at the end of breaks were almost deafiningly loud, and I could not for the life of me get anyone to even understand the problem.

  13. tgf on April 16th, 2009 7:17 pm

    Sweeney batting third? FTW?

  14. harry on April 16th, 2009 7:18 pm

    I called an left a message with FSNW complaining about the mistimed ads, as well. I hope they get it fixed soon. I like listening to Dave, I don’t want to listen to the Angels announcers.

  15. Paul B on April 16th, 2009 7:19 pm

    Last night I missed the homer that Hunter hit because Directv was running a commercial. I called them and talked to a human, and just now I sent an email. I can’t believe they are doing this on purpose but if they are I will try using the Dish instead.

  16. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 7:20 pm

    How can Abreu argue that?

  17. harry on April 16th, 2009 7:22 pm

    They can’t possibly be doing it on purpose: it seems like some sort of automation mistake, and no one is at the helm paying attention.

  18. Lauren, token chick on April 16th, 2009 7:23 pm

    Alright, I’m watching, but they’d better make this good because I’m sooo… sleepy….ajfkdsfj

  19. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 7:24 pm

    It is very refreshing to watch a guy throw strikes. Especially knowing the defense we have behind him. Not afraid of balls put in play.

  20. joser on April 16th, 2009 7:25 pm

    Do you get the feeling the Angels are sitting around in the dugout going “Who the hell are these guys?”

  21. harry on April 16th, 2009 7:30 pm

    I think the Angels are thinking about being down their top three starters, and are staring at a long month before they feel close to full strength.

  22. joser on April 16th, 2009 7:35 pm

    Beltre earns his salary every game without picking up a bat.

  23. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 7:37 pm

    Beltre earns his salary every game without picking up a bat.

    I am ready for his bat to come around this year though.

  24. Luc on April 16th, 2009 7:38 pm

    The Grinch is killing it so far. First pitch strike machine.

  25. joser on April 16th, 2009 7:39 pm

    Yeah, but you have to think that they looked at their schedule and said “Well, if we’re going to start the season without the top of the rotation, at least we get to play the Mariners six times in the first 20 games.” And then when they realized they were going to miss both Felix and Bedard in this series….

  26. MattThompson on April 16th, 2009 7:45 pm

    Last night I missed the homer that Hunter hit because Directv was running a commercial. I called them and talked to a human, and just now I sent an email. I canÂ’t believe they are doing this on purpose but if they are I will try using the Dish instead.

    Unfortunately, DirectTV is the only satellite provider of the Extra Innings package. Why this has not forced me to change providers can only be attributed to laziness at this point.

  27. PaulMolitorCocktail on April 16th, 2009 7:49 pm

    In tribute to Jakubauskas – which Mariners player has had the longest last name?

  28. Luc on April 16th, 2009 7:49 pm

    Just walked into the team store. Noticed the clearance rack chalk-full of Sexson XL Home jerseys. They’ll be hard pressed to get rid of those. I wouldn’t take it as a gift personally.

  29. PaulMolitorCocktail on April 16th, 2009 7:52 pm

    Someday, one of us will go to some poor third-world country and see a bunch of people with Sexson jerseys.

  30. Luc on April 16th, 2009 7:52 pm

    Byron McLaughlin and Rowland-Smith to my memory. But I don’t know.

  31. msb on April 16th, 2009 7:54 pm

    In tribute to Jakubauskas – which Mariners player has had the longest last name?

    RRS

  32. Slippery Elmer on April 16th, 2009 7:59 pm

    Soporific game thus far, without Griffey in the lineup… ;-)

  33. PaulMolitorCocktail on April 16th, 2009 7:59 pm

    RRS, yes, but he’s tied with another player. In fact, another pitcher.

  34. Tv Producer on April 16th, 2009 7:59 pm

    Matt Thompson,

    Which channel ? 687 or the extra-innings channel ? How often does it happen per game ? Does it happen near a “normal” break, or does it happen at random times in the middle of innings ?

  35. PaulMolitorCocktail on April 16th, 2009 8:01 pm

    Sorry, he was not a pitcher. And he only played in Tacoma.

  36. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:03 pm

    Pssst…. go here, enter this password: homertv.net

  37. pumpkinhead on April 16th, 2009 8:03 pm

    Geez. Hunter is the new Guerrero.

  38. Typical Idiot Fan on April 16th, 2009 8:06 pm

    78% strikes. He’s also gone from a 91.5mph average fastball in the first two innings to an 89.5mph average fastball.

  39. PaulMolitorCocktail on April 16th, 2009 8:07 pm

    Ichiriffic!

  40. Typical Idiot Fan on April 16th, 2009 8:08 pm

    Ichiro!

  41. leon0112 on April 16th, 2009 8:09 pm

    Congratulations to Ichiro on setting a new record.

  42. JerBear on April 16th, 2009 8:09 pm

    Congratulations Ichiro!!!

  43. harry on April 16th, 2009 8:09 pm

    Tv Producer, it will happen anytime. Last night, it happened right as Johnson slid into second when he hit his double. And several other times as well, that was just the most annoying one.

  44. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:09 pm

    beautiful bunt

  45. pumpkinhead on April 16th, 2009 8:09 pm

    Fundamentals. Plain and simple.

  46. Slippery Elmer on April 16th, 2009 8:10 pm

    Here they go…

  47. MattThompson on April 16th, 2009 8:10 pm

    Which channel ? 687 or the extra-innings channel ? How often does it happen per game ? Does it happen near a “normal” break, or does it happen at random times in the middle of innings ?

    I was actually quoting an earlier post, and screwed up the quotes. It’s what I get for posting from a mobile. So, I can’t say what the situation with the mis-placed ads might be.

    But hey, how about our pitching tonight?!!

  48. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:10 pm

    Still waiting for the professional hitter comment to be made of Sweeney

  49. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:11 pm

    Time to put Chavez in motion. I would like to see 30 + sb’s out of him this year

  50. Slippery Elmer on April 16th, 2009 8:13 pm

    Nice play by Izturis, but the winning run scores nonetheless.

  51. NLhamster on April 16th, 2009 8:13 pm

    Well, apparently I’m the only one who would put a “JR” at the end of Sexson and change the number to Branyan’s. I love small ball and have no room for those from the Dave Kingman mold.

  52. hoponpop01 on April 16th, 2009 8:15 pm

    The Buntmaster. Nice

    I was going to say something about a “productive out” by our three batter with a RISP but after four years of Sexson’s “unproductive outs” I’ll take it. No problem with it, but maybe don’t laud it as much, Dave?

  53. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:15 pm

    Not sure if I would rather have Branyon or a Paul Sorrento in his prime

  54. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:15 pm

    Endy has been tutoring Betancourt on bunting, and was explaining to him that you can bunt for hits. But no explanation beats an in-game demonstration.

    And sending the runner on that next batter to stay out of a double play. Nice call, Wak.

  55. MattThompson on April 16th, 2009 8:15 pm

    See, and I screwed them up again. blockquote, not bquote…note to self.

  56. Go Felix on April 16th, 2009 8:16 pm

    Bases loaded!

  57. leon0112 on April 16th, 2009 8:16 pm

    Branyan gets on base!

  58. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:17 pm

    Balentien & Betencourt = batting coach killers?

  59. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:18 pm

    Uh oh, Beltre’s getting suckered on those outside pitches again…

  60. Go Felix on April 16th, 2009 8:19 pm

    Ugh…

  61. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:19 pm

    How many change ups in a row was that? 6?

  62. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 8:19 pm

    Damn it Wlad! That was horrific plate discipline. Those swing and misses were not even close and were definitely balls.

  63. JerBear on April 16th, 2009 8:20 pm

    Dammit Wlad.

  64. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 8:21 pm

    Balentien & Betencourt = batting coach killers?

    But you dont see Yuni really missing that badly. Yuni would have at least put that ball in play. Yuni has terrible plate discipline and he is to agressive for his own good. However I do believe he has some talent as a contact hitter.

  65. Slippery Elmer on April 16th, 2009 8:22 pm

    No “dancing on the Balentein” tonight.

  66. Go Felix on April 16th, 2009 8:25 pm

    JAKU!!!!!

  67. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:26 pm

    You know, in a way it’s kind of fortunate how Ichiro’s DL stint worked out. If not for that, he undoubtedly would’ve broken the hits record on the road. So not only would the local fans not had the opportunity to give him an O, but Mr. Harimoto would’ve had to fly all the way to Minnesota (where I guess the dome would’ve seemed familiar, at least).

  68. Seth on April 16th, 2009 8:28 pm

    Balentien needs at bats against MLB pitching, but he may not get them if he keeps getting fooled like that. He did well to work the at bat back to 3-2, at least. Saunders made a good pitch.

  69. marinersintheblood on April 16th, 2009 8:30 pm

    5 shutout innings for Jak was more than I expected. Where did we get this guy from?

  70. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:33 pm

    It seems like Yuni always takes until one strike and then he feels like this act of minimal patience gives him free reign to hack at anything in sight on the ensuing pitches.

    Kinda defeats the purposes of taking the straight down the middle heater.

  71. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:34 pm

    the Mexican league?

  72. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 8:35 pm

    It seems like Yuni always takes until one strike and then he feels like this act of minimal patience gives him free reign to hack at anything in sight on the ensuing pitches.

    Kinda defeats the purposes of taking the straight down the middle heater.

    It seems like he probably takes 90%+ the first pitch. Then swings away.

  73. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:37 pm
  74. You Gotta Luv These Guys on April 16th, 2009 8:37 pm

    jak should not be still in this inning regardless of how well he pitches. i thought we were stretching him out.

  75. leon0112 on April 16th, 2009 8:41 pm

    Jak did a great job.

  76. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 8:41 pm

    Is that Corky coming in to induce a double play?

  77. You Gotta Luv These Guys on April 16th, 2009 8:41 pm

    thank god.

  78. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:42 pm

    Good thing Wakamatsu pulled him — the Angels announcers had given up trying to pronounce “Jakubauskas” and had degenerated down to calling him “CJ”

  79. pumpkinhead on April 16th, 2009 8:42 pm

    Either Branyan turning the right way, or Chavez making a more accurate throw, and Figgins is off the bases. Hrmph.

  80. Seth on April 16th, 2009 8:42 pm

    Whoa — where was Yuni on that grounder? I thought DP for sure…

  81. marinersintheblood on April 16th, 2009 8:42 pm

    Whatever the outcome, nice work, Jak. I’m impressed.

    can we dump Carlos Silva now?

  82. Slippery Elmer on April 16th, 2009 8:44 pm

    Sweet!

  83. Slippery Elmer on April 16th, 2009 8:44 pm

    Perfect play to squelch the run.

  84. Seth on April 16th, 2009 8:46 pm

    That’s why he gets the Gold Glove.

  85. swershow on April 16th, 2009 8:46 pm

    is it just me, or is branyan a really, really bad first baseman . . . its not so much that he cant field, its more that he doesnt seem to really know how to play the position. ive seen him botch coverages a couple of times, and not turning glove side to make the tag on a back pick is pretty bush league . . . that should not happen in the majors, ever.

  86. MattThompson on April 16th, 2009 8:47 pm

    Beltre, once again earning his keep with his glove. And nice game, Jakubauskas!

  87. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 8:48 pm

    I think the pickoff was more on Jakubauskas’s throw than Branyans poor tag. It seemed it was high and away.

  88. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:49 pm

    Branyan was doing a lousy job with the tag, too — he was going for Figgins’ shoulder, instead of stretching down to the bag to try to get his fingers.

  89. John D. on April 16th, 2009 8:49 pm

    Last night I missed the homer that Hunter hit [on Direct TV]

    My wife came home from the game, and watched the replay. (She wanted to see ICHIRO’s grand slam again. They never showed it.)
    Now I know wshy the replays are so much shorter than the actual games.

    [It's not just those others who are fouling things up. "We have met the enemy, and they is us."]

  90. Luc on April 16th, 2009 8:49 pm

    Right down the frickin’ middle on 0-2? What the hell Corcoran!!!???

  91. joser on April 16th, 2009 8:51 pm

    Regardless of what happens for the rest of this game, I certainly look forward to Dave’s Pitch FX analysis of Jakubauskas’ pitches. That was a remarkable debut.

  92. Slippery Elmer on April 16th, 2009 8:51 pm

    Corcoran doesn’t seem to have much control of his pitches.

  93. swershow on April 16th, 2009 8:52 pm

    i was talking about the backpick throw from rob johnson, not the pickoff by jakubauskas. branyan turned the wrong way, instead of just sweeping glove side to the bag

  94. Luc on April 16th, 2009 8:53 pm

    Fuccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. I’m going to the grocery store. Can’t watch Corky for another minute. This is what Dave was talking about. Fastball. Fastball. Fastball. Fastball. God.

  95. Kid_A on April 16th, 2009 8:54 pm

    Bullpen was bound to melt down eventually.

  96. pumpkinhead on April 16th, 2009 8:57 pm

    With any luck, Saunders arm has tightened up after this longass half inning.

  97. JerBear on April 16th, 2009 8:57 pm

    Can’t watch Corky for another minute.

    Apparently neither can Wak. He probably wishes he could just leave and go to the grocery store too.

  98. pinky on April 16th, 2009 9:00 pm

    I’m no pitching coach, but shouldn’t they mix up the pitches a bit? I’d imagine that it’d be easier to hit knowing you’re only getting fastballs. We’re at 21 straight fastballs and counting…

  99. jordan on April 16th, 2009 9:00 pm

    Good freakin’ god. Leaving Jak in was obviously the best option. I knew our bullpen wansn’t that good.

  100. Viking1983 on April 16th, 2009 9:00 pm

    That was a pretty unlucky inning, honestly no ball was really hit hard, they just found holes in the infield. I am pissed that Corcoran gave him that strike on 0-2

  101. MattThompson on April 16th, 2009 9:01 pm

    Definitely not a good inning for the bullpen (the one we’ve kind of been expecting), but certainly infield defense, most notably Yuni’s lack of range at short on a pair of grounders, contributed.

  102. DLCheeZ on April 16th, 2009 9:01 pm

    We’ll see what they’re made of now.

  103. pumpkinhead on April 16th, 2009 9:04 pm

    Carbon?

  104. Lauren, token chick on April 16th, 2009 9:05 pm

    Ugh. I’m still awake, but I kinda wish I wasn’t.

  105. Go Felix on April 16th, 2009 9:07 pm

    Can we please give up on Sweeney? He’s late on just about every pitch he has seen this year.

  106. You Gotta Luv These Guys on April 16th, 2009 9:08 pm

    eek.

  107. CC03 on April 16th, 2009 9:09 pm

    Beltre is fun to watch on defense… not so much on offense.

  108. joser on April 16th, 2009 9:11 pm

    Endy Chavez: 2 hits.
    Combined distance: less than sixty feet.

  109. You Gotta Luv These Guys on April 16th, 2009 9:17 pm

    I wish we had signed Abreu :)

  110. Luc on April 16th, 2009 9:18 pm

    Alright. So I got myself some comfort food at the grocery store. Had some time to clear my head, put things in perspective, reflect. Woooooosaaaa…

    First big bullpen meltdown had to happen sometime. Glad it took ’til the 10th game, and it’s also encouraging to see it happen in the last of a three game set instead of the first, second, and third games of a three game set. Obviously Adair and Wak need to intervene and get these guys to vary pitches a lot more. It doesn’t take more than an inning or two, at best, for a guy to figure out that’s all you’re going to throw him. See: Putz before he went on the DL last year. Avoiding his killer splitter like grim death for some reason.

  111. You Gotta Luv These Guys on April 16th, 2009 9:18 pm

    That :) was supposed to be a :(

  112. Luc on April 16th, 2009 9:21 pm

    Also, since we haven’t really been down by more than two runs all season until now, I’d like to point out how nice it is to feel like a comeback in this situation, while unlikely, is entirely possible. That feels good.

  113. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 9:25 pm

    Is anyone seeing more patience out of Lopez? Seems like he is developing at a faster rate in this regard then Yuni. Perhaps Lopez has a 50-60 walk season in store for him this year which would be somewhat encouraging.

  114. Luc on April 16th, 2009 9:26 pm

    Somebody should tell the Mariners that we need Saunders OUT of the game. Work the freakin’ count. Five…yeah, FIVE pitches in the sixth. 10 in the seventh.

  115. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 9:30 pm

    not Beltre’s finest hour

  116. You Gotta Luv These Guys on April 16th, 2009 9:34 pm

    Not being all that informed about the league’s bullpens, I just did a little google search:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=mlbdk2k9_reliefefforts

  117. Go Felix on April 16th, 2009 9:45 pm

    Nice play by Lopez!

  118. pumpkinhead on April 16th, 2009 9:46 pm

    Did Sim(m)s just reference South Park with the Abe Lincoln remark? I wasn’t paying full attention, but I think that’s what he did…

  119. dbragg56 on April 16th, 2009 9:46 pm

    hard to figure out why Sean White has not been able to stick at this level. He has a nice little arsenal with a 92-94 fastball that appears to have a little sink and run. It appears to that he has some ability to miss bats as well.. what gives?

  120. Luc on April 16th, 2009 9:47 pm

    Gave out those rally fries too early, Blow.

  121. marinersintheblood on April 16th, 2009 9:59 pm

    that’s ok. I’ll take 2 out of 3 from the Angels and 5 solid innings from Jakabauskas. Yep. And walk away smiling.

  122. JMHawkins on April 16th, 2009 10:01 pm

    The “Hello Safeco Field” radio spots are beyond stupid, beyond annoying, beyond stupidly annoying, beyond comprehension that someone got paid to make them.

    Someone please delete them and turn any backup CD-ROMs into wall clocks.

  123. bratman on April 16th, 2009 10:04 pm

    What a horrible horrible pitching performance out of Corky -

    WHO the heck pitches an 0-2 pitch right down the pipe letter high.

    YUCK

    Oh Well, it’s not like we hit anyways.

    Back to earth for the Mariners… can someone explain Don Wak’s performance tonight? I don’t want to get on his case too early … but

  124. Scottdids on April 16th, 2009 10:16 pm

    As much as I want to complain about the bullpen blowing up, we all know it was due.

    Might as well do it on the game where we only get 3 hits and probably won’t win anyways…

  125. Luc on April 16th, 2009 10:19 pm

    A series split, sweep and win to start the season. Two of which were against division rivals. I’ll take it anytime.

    All five runs can be traced to one 0-2 fastball right down the center from Corky. Not only is that one pitch a disaster, but add to it the fact that the previous dozen or so pitches he threw were similarly located fastballs. Joke.

    The bullpen can’t be the best every single day and the guys need to show some more plate discipline to get Saunders out of there much earlier. He could have easily been out of there an inning earlier if it weren’t for that 5 pitch sixth.

    So some bad stuff happened. It wasn’t the total implosion that we quickly became accustom to last season, so I guess that’s good. You know what they say; lowered expectations breed satisfactory results.

  126. Kazinski on April 16th, 2009 10:28 pm

    Back to earth for the Mariners… can someone explain Don Wak’s performance tonight? I don’t want to get on his case too early … but

    Yeah, anybody could see that he should have brought Batista in from the bullpen, rather than Corky.

  127. joser on April 16th, 2009 10:33 pm

    WHO the heck pitches an 0-2 pitch right down the pipe letter high.

    Pretty much everybody in the bullpen, at one time or another this past week. In Aardsma’s case, I think that was all he threw. They’ve just been getting away with it. Until now.

    Not being all that informed about the league’s bullpens, I just did a little google search:

    You realize that’s an analysis for fantasy baseball, which is kind of like using “Grey’s Anatomy” as a way of evaluating Seattle area physicians? Ok, maybe that’s a bit harsh… fantasy does use real players. But it discounts some things that matter and over-values some things that don’t. Moreover, that analysis — such as it is — is a month out of date.

    If you want to have a look at how relief staffs have done so far this year, Frangraphs is a good place to start (sort by FIP). Of course it’s way early still. Fangraphs also has projections (using various systems) for individual players but unfortunately they don’t (AFAIK) compile them for teams (which would get especially complicated for a relief corps anyway, since you have to estimate how many innings each player would get vs the others and the starters).

  128. mikeeinseattle on April 18th, 2009 2:41 am

    Hmmmmmm, interesting comments above. I agree, our hitters need to be more patient at the plate. I read an interview from Wak, and he mentioned that getting the team to learn to how draw more walks, is one of his main concerns.

    Hopefully they’ll learn sooner than later.

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