Game 12, Tigers at Mariners
Dave · April 18, 2009 at 5:07 pm · Filed Under Mariners
Bedard vs Jackson, 6:05 pm.
Ichiro, RF
Chavez, LF
Griffey, DH
Beltre, 3B
Sweeney, 1B (seriously?)
Lopez, 2B
Johnson, C
Betancourt, stand around and day dream
Death To Flying Things, CF
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I’m interested in your opinion on slotting Griffey in the 3 hole. Do you like him there or would you put him somewhere else?
I’m guessing Branyan’s a little banged up after the game yesterday. I would have gone with Lopez at 1B and Cedeno at 2B, but…’In Wak we trust.’
Griffey at the three hole is fine. Sweeney at the five hole against a righthander is not fine.
Sweeney makes my blood boil. He is slowly becoming Vidro 2.0 in my mind.
Sweeney makes my blood boil. He is slowly becoming Vidro 2.0 in my mind.
at least we aren’t paying him much (relatively). I am surprised there hasn’t been much push to have Griffey play some first base. Wouldn’t he have better range than Sweeney?
Interestingly, Griffey came into this season holding the record for most games batting 3rd, so he sets a record with very game he starts in that lineup spot.
So did anyone tune into the Fox Saturday game? I’m guessing they weren’t expecting that outcome (and all the viewers who undoubtedly tuned out early) when they were putting that one on the schedule. I tuned in to get a glimpse of the new stadium, and stayed for the Schadenfreude. And all the RBIs by former M’s.
New stadium: $1.5 Billion
Offseaon player acquisitions: $424 Million
Getting blown out 22-4 by the last-place team in the AL? Priceless
Nice pitch sequence from Bedard.
The (old, tired, overrated, and washup) Angels are getting pounded again tonight.
Winning the division is looking more and more doable every night.
Is it just me, or is Cabrera’s size getting kind of suspicious? The guy has nearly doubled in size since his days in Florida.
“The AL West is becoming more wide open, with each fallen Angel.”
You poet, Dave.
it’s not just you, themedia.
He’s getting fat. I don’t think it has anything to do with what you’re implying. Also, he’s 26…his metabolism might have slowed down since he was 19 and new in the league.
I’d be suspicious, themedia, if the growth was across the chest and not the spare tire area.
what I noticed last night was that in person he didn’t look any where as large.
Bedard’s curveball is awesome to watch.
The Angels start to this season is honestly helping put last year in perspective as an M’s fan– down John Lackey, Kelvim Escobar and Ervin Santana, Nick Adenhart dies, a fan dies in the stands, Vlad is out for probably 8 or more weeks, major meltdown in Minnesota that made Brandon’s collapse seem minor… I love the way the American League West is taking shape, but honestly feel sorry for the Angels (and I NEVER thought I’d ever say that- period).
I almost feel sorry for the Angels too, but then I remember the last 5 years or so of Angel dominance.
I swear, this isn’t the same Chavez I spent the winter watching in highlight reels… He’s “Ichiro Light”, a serious sparkplug. Quickly becoming one of my fave Mariners of late.
Is it me, or does someone try to steal third at least once a game?
Flowin-
Okay, so, to be honest, I imagined what it might be like to feel sorry for the Angels, but yeah, I couldn’t actually do it.
5 random things I’m over:
Rally Fries
Rally Monkey
The DH
$9.00 Ballpark beers
All the broken bats shattering
And Oakland, after a great performance from their bullpen, spit the bit and gave up a walk-off homer to Overbay and the game to the Blue Jays.
I hate to be giving ideas to our rivals, but….
Arte Moreno should be on the phone with a $5M one-year offer to Pedro Martinez (which is apparently what Pedro is holding out for). At this point, what do they have lose? In the worst case, they have one more guy on the DL.
And with Vlad MIA, they need to find some more offense. The easiest thing might be to bring up that Brandon Wood kid from the minors and hope he continues to produce, though that means they have to juggle other guys because he’s not an outfielder.
It’s going to a long season for those guys.
BELTRE!!!! HOLY BALLS!!!!
(Jaw drop) Beltre!
Give that kid a contract!
Adrian Beltre makes me smile.
C’mon Blowers, you’re halfway there……
Do any of you watch the M’s on The Dish? If so, are you having the problem that Directv is having where they play commercials in the middle of innings? For example, I completely missed Griffey’s at bat in the first inning.
If you’re watching the SD (4:3) digital feed on an HD (16:9) set, everybody looks wider. Silva overflows the edges of the screen.
Paul D, I don’t have The Dish, but I read every game thread.
Yes.
I know Wak likes Sweeney. But I’d have to think that if he is still hitting .250 with no power in May or June, he’d have to think about letting him go.
I’m sorry, but the guy’s simply huge. I don’t think it’s an illusion.
Bedard is making Cabrera look foolish.
Bedard with 4 strikeouts, all looking.
Well, the Daleks that run Faux Sports should love that, since they’ll be able to give the Angels even more Saturday afternoon games…
Meanwhile, Rizzs just mentioned how the Tigers have only won 71 and 72 games the past couple of years. Gee, you were only off by 3-4 years there, Rizzy.
howsabout a 1979 Toshiba with black stripe-type cathode-ray tubes and no remote?
Mariner offense hasn’t scored any runs?
Time to use the M’s trump card: bunts.
another solid ab by Yuni..
Maybe he’s on the Dimitri Young diet?
I don’t think the weight that Cabrera has gained is what you would call “good weight”
Jackson is looking strong tonight… and his pitch count is at 38 through three innings (compared with 56 for Bedard). M’s have to have longer ABs against Jackson if they want to get him out of the game.
Bedard’s new nickname “Made you look”
Here’s the response I got to my second email (the first email response was either automated or it came from someone who does not speak English).
It’s very good to see Bedard constantly hitting 93 on the gun. Last year it seemed like he was more in the 90-91 range
Another nice inning for Bedard. Ladies and Gentlemen, please notice this fantastic pitcher available for trade. He’s healthy, hitting 94 on the gun, and ready to make your team reach the playoffs. We’ll even throw in Silva!
I miss KOMO.
I hope you write back to point out to them that, as this is a live sporting event, their explanation makes absolutely no sense.
Paul,
Can you post the email you sent ?
The defense on both sides is ready to play today. DEFENSE DUEL!!!
Bedard, made you look
That would have been a double last year.
I did reply via email and try to explain to them that baseball games do not happen on a clock schedule, and that traditionally TV commercials are done during breaks in the action such as innings or pitching changes. I felt I had to explain it very carefully.
I am on the phone with a person who is trying to write the complaint up, they all say this is the first time they have heard of this. I think it has happened 3 times tonight so far, which I am explaining to the rep right now.
Here is the first email I sent them:
It sure is nice to have a left fielder that has some range.
I could swear that Direct TV ‘customers’ in other threads mentioned that they had complained. I know I would have been breathing fire down the phone the first time it happened to me.
“First they’ve heard of it” Insane.
Amen to that, bro! I took my dad to the game last night, and I remarked to him on one play how there was no way Raul would’ve made that last year.
I’ve never seen Lopez move so fast.
That was an ugly at bat by Sweeney.
I know he’s been amazing in the dugout– and I love that. But doesn’t that play better as some sort of bench coach, rather than a slow swinging, slow running, very well respected player hanging on too long and keeping some pretty talented young guys in the minors?
Don’t get me wrong, I think Sweeney was an excellent Major League baller– but it looks over for him when he’s at the plate.
WAKABALL!!
Out by a mile……wow!
I just got off the phone. It happened while I was speaking to him, just as Polanco hit his double in the 5th, I was suddenly watching a Geico and a Directv commercial. So I was able to give him a real time report.
He said their engineers would look into it, and it would take 48 hours.
Oh, crud, a double play.
I hate you, Yuni. Just hate you.
“You had to send him” – Sims
No. You didn’t.
Squeeze play would have worked there, Yuni! (Kidding.)
Lopez is so slow.
Lopez looked really, really slow running home. Wow.
My dad thought Raul was good defensively, so I imagine I’ll have to explain that too, soon.
This Jose’s going to be Vidro in a couple of years for sure. Totally a weeble that woobles but doesn’t fall down.
That was a terrible slide.
I thought for a second Franky was going to make a play on that.
Yeah, so why does our color commentator not mention how UGLY of a slide that was? Isn’t that his job?
We don’t need our children mimicking that.
Would you even call that a slide? It was really just sort of running and leaning.
Ugly throw by Ichiro…….yikes
Bedard should pitch from the stretch. The only way Cabrera’s stealing is if a burger’s sitting on 2B.
Ichiro tried to mimick the Granderson throw, but was off by about 20 feet.
*shouldn’t*
Good height on that catch attempt, Johnson. Played some b-ball?
I hate when Ichiro makes an error. I get all uncomfortable and expect to see it raining frogs and cats and dogs to be making love in the streets.
he had zero chance of getting an out, just stupid.
Beer run……..that’s my substitute for this whole rally fry deal.
Sucks that one error could cost us the game, but unless Jackson has a Verlander-esque meltdown…
Just because you can throw as far as Oregon, doesn’t always mean you should.
GRIFFEY……..damn.
Darn, these announcers really know how to get your hopes up over a lazy fly ball.
no kidding it sounded like he hit it out of the stadium
The camera angle made it look like it was going to be about 10 rows deep. What a tease.
I have the MLB.com package and can’t get the FSNW feed, can only watch the FSD one…anyone else having this problem or is it just me?
Rally time. Somebody needs to go mow their lawn.
less is more mr. sims
for instance
Theres a flyball to right field….ordonez goes back…this one has a chance!….but ordonez pulls it in”
Beats the crap you just tried to sell me
Axtell, I have MLB.tv and I’m getting the FSNW feed. I don’t even have the premium package (I think the home team is the default announcing team too).
Corcoran in to pitch? Hide the women and children.
i have the premium package axel, and i have something new wrong everyday. My FSND doesn’t work, and i have had it freeze through the first batter of nearly every inning.
Fun.
This game is flying by.
nice gun down endy.
Ibanez doesn’t even get to that ball, and if he does, it’s a three-hopper to home.
Wow, I can’t believe he gunned down Granderson. I didn’t think there would be a chance on that one. Good block of the plate, too.
HOLY F***!!!!! AMAZING!!!
i’m so close to buying an endy jersey that its not even funny.
does ebay take food stamps?
Beauty Endy! “Ichiro Light” outdoes Ichiro tonight in the assist to the plate category.
(Did anyone else see the replay of the ball Ichiro threw away– I swear it looks like he could have caught that if he was hustling? Still not 100% maybe?)
I think Edwin Jackson had something like a career 0.60 ERA against the M’s coming into this game. Watching this game, I don’t think it’s been a fluke.
That was the worst inning I have ever seen. I mean, that was pathetic. 9 pitches?!?!?!
A lazy pop up, a first pitch fly ball, and a ground ball.
No wonder Jackson pitch count is at 84.
I guess nobody ever told Lopez to lay off the high stuff. That pitch was over his head.
Okay Wak- where’s some of that New Day, New Way magic for the 8th and 9th? (Assuming we survive another Corky inning…)
Flowin yeah I’ve seen a ton of first pitch swings too…are they thinking they’re still facing Verlander?
Yes, this game is slipping away…
I believe the bottom three can come through here.
Oh good, and emergency broadcast test. Matches my mood. SQQUEEELLL!
What the hell is the pitch Jackson throws that bounces halfway to the plate and has guys like Beltre and Johnson swinging at it?
I am holding out hope. But it all starts with making the pitcher throw strikes. Rob can’t be chasing pitches like that in the dirt.
A hit! A hit! By Johnson no less!
Good god, Jackson is making everyone look stupid.
Another quality AB from Yuni.. love the plate discipline there.
I really, really hate Yuni. He’s this year’s Vidro.
what the hell are they stealing for
Why send Johnson there if Gutierrez isn’t swinging?
Please dont tell me the catcher was just caught stealing?!?!?!?!
In a 2 run game, no less. That is just poor baserunning there. Game over.
…looks around for ‘lauren token chick’ after juneau’s last comment…
Ah, Lauren’s off at a sports bar, prowling for Yuni’s replacement, ’cause she doesn’t like pusses.
I’d rather Guty get out here, so we’ve got the top of the lineup with no outs in the 9th…
Good eye gut.
Thank you, baby Jesus! The curse of Sims strikes again!
“Jackson hasn’t walked anyone tonight…”
Ball four!
did you know that edwin jackson has pitched better then eric bedard tonight?
because if you didnt, check out FSN, and dave sims will tell ya allllllllll about it!
The curse of Sims better not work again:
“One swing of the bat ties this up.”
C’mon Sims, how ’bout a little “Jackson hasn’t given up a home run tonight!?”
That was NOT a strike– not even close. 6 inches off the plate AFTER breaking towards the plate… Man, that sucked. 9 on 10 for that pitch.
I love Ichiro’s version of arguing calls. Just standing there, as though the pitcher and catcher will return to finish the at-bat.
He’s loving Edwin tonight.
This only sets things up for a dramatic walkoff win by the Mariners. (cross fingers)
How do teams plan on pitching the middle part of the M’s lineup in the 9th this year? You can’t just walk a guy to set up a Richie Sexson or Jose Vidro double play?
Prediction: Griffey ties it with a 2-run homer in the 9th, and Beltre wins it with a walkoff ding… Goodnight, Detroit!
Rodney is something like 35 for 60 in save opportunities.
Where would we be without Beltre’s arm?
In the “Lots of News…” thread…
sean white has been good
but edwin jackson has just been a little better
ok, im done making fun of dave sims
Lets make a comeback.
nice at bat
Oh shit. This is either going to end well, or not.
Jr. vs a guy with 25 blown saves in 60 opportunities = ?
Ichiro Lite walks! Here we go!
deep fly ball.. **sigh**
Beltre must hit balls with more top-spin than any other player in the league.
Now, I *know* this won’t end well.
Lots of Mariner flaws were on display tonight.
Eh, better luck tomorrow. . .
seriously?
ill take 8 and 4 at any time? but edwin jackson? seriously?
i guess its a pretty firm reality check
Beltre’s fly-out looked great off the bat. TONS of top spin, though.
Apparently there is a (SSS) history of Mariner ineptitude vs Edwin Jackson.
Detroit does have a formidable line-up: It is still an achievement to hold them to just two runs in a game, and five in two. And we can still win this series.
The Mariners needed to bunt more.
Bunts are magical.
Next up: Silva vs the Detroit line-up. And the M’s who did a fine job of handing Edwin Jackson a great victory, and keeping Leyland from having to use his pen, get Rick Porcello. Maybe Porcello is not ready for the big-leagues yet.
well, now we know what Matt Pittman is doing during the game — reading USSM. Makes a change from him watching basketball, I suppose
I miss the edit function. I think I would have shut my mouth on this one.
It’s on a timer, is what.
Yuni… 3 ABs… 6 pitches… a K… and hit in to a DP… Noice!
I haven’t gotten the timer in a while. Of course, when I send this, it’ll likely appear
nope. no timer, no edit choice.
msb: can you drop me a line with your operating system/browser/browser version? I’ll look into this tonight.
sure thing
(testing IE this time)