Game 29, Mariners at Royals

DMZ · May 7, 2009 at 10:00 am · Filed Under Mariners 

11. Washburn v Bannister. Stupid inconvenient time zones. Why can’t the Earth be flat? Or a torus, or something?

RF Ichiro
CF Gutierrez
2B Lopez
1B Branyan
3B Beltre
DH Griffey
LF Balentien
C Johnson
SS Cedeno

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167 Responses to “Game 29, Mariners at Royals”

  1. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 10:02 am

    Gutierrez batting 2nd, Cedeno playing SS, Betancourt on the bench. Cool.

  2. tgf on May 7th, 2009 10:03 am

    Gutierrez batting 2nd, Cedeno playing SS, Betancourt on the bench. Cool.

    Hmm…..does Wak read USSM?

  3. Sports on a Schtick on May 7th, 2009 10:10 am

    I fully expect this to be a “Yuni needs a day off, then we’ll play him 50 straight games” sort of thing.

  4. littlelinny6 on May 7th, 2009 10:16 am

    I agree, the problem is that there is alot of pressure to perform for Cedeno right now. If he goes 0-3 today Baker will be yapping how we missed Yuni’s high average bat in there today. Hopefully this is the start of something permanent. Balentien as the starting LF with Endy as a 4th OF/late inning defensive replacement for Wlad and Cedeno as the starting SS. With the current roster that gives us the best chance to win.

  5. Dave on May 7th, 2009 10:18 am

    Except, you know, Wlad is right-handed, and the last thing this line-up needs is another right-handed bat.

    Seriously, people, you have to consider match-ups. If you really want the team’s regular line-up against righties to include six RH bats, you’re punting the season.

  6. Nuss on May 7th, 2009 10:29 am

    Hmm…..does Wak read USSM?

    Well, you know, except for the whole Jose Lopez batting THIRD thing … I mean, I guess somebody has to do it, but that just defies logic.

  7. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 10:29 am

    This line up is not optimal against Bannister and his ability to get righties out (1.0ish WHIP vs. RHB and 1.5ish WHIP against LHB).

    That being said he has always had a pretty terrible K/BB ratio. Hopefully this lineup will take more pitches with Yuni being out of it today.

  8. zzyzx on May 7th, 2009 10:30 am

    I don’t know. With the way the last few games have went, not watching could be a good thing…

  9. lailaihei on May 7th, 2009 10:32 am

    How much would the team improve if we had Carp as the everyday 1B and a Branyan/Balentien platoon at DH?

  10. Dave on May 7th, 2009 10:33 am

    Not at all. Griffey’s fine.

  11. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 10:35 am

    Woo hooo!! Nice to be home for a bit to actually watch the game.

  12. joser on May 7th, 2009 10:37 am

    Being a torus wouldn’t help, unless we all lived on the inside and the sun was in the center and it was permanently noon everywhere. In which case it would essentially be a very thick Ringworld, and we’d probably need an inner ring of alternating segments to produce a healthy day-night cycle, and we’d be back to the same sort of problem (though there would be multiple spots at the same point in the cycle, so if you distributed your cities evenly it would work).

    What we really need to do is convince all those eager beavers east of us to just sleep in and do everything later, for our convenience. (Though given the realities of demographics and power, we’d more likely end up like the Chinese where everybody is forced to pretend to be in the time zone of the capital, and people in the far west get to enjoy 10am sunrises in the winter).

    Oh, wait, there’s a game on?

  13. Gump on May 7th, 2009 10:39 am

    I am calling it right now. Junior and Beltre will both hit HR’S today! Go m’s snap the streak!

  14. joser on May 7th, 2009 10:49 am

    Bannister’s FIP so far this year is 4.93 vs his seemingly magical ERA of 1.96. He walks (4.91 BB/9) more guys than he Ks (3.44 K/9) and he’s stranded 75%. There’s no way he doesn’t get whacked around at some point; as we’ve seen, an improved defense can only help a pitcher so much. Sometimes balls get booted, or squirt through holes, or land in the seats. Today would be a good day for that, especially after making Padilla and Ponson look like Cy Young candidates.

  15. drjeff on May 7th, 2009 10:51 am

    Luckily, my doctor gave me a bad prescription for a minor medical problem, and I tested positive and have been banned from work for 50 days. So, I’ll be there!

    Nothing sucks worse right now than having a friend who is a Royals fan. “Wow, why did you guys let Bloomquist go?” ha!

  16. cgmonk on May 7th, 2009 10:52 am

    As per FSN, this is the 5000th game for Dave Niehaus.

  17. Gregor on May 7th, 2009 11:03 am

    Are you trying to tell me the Earth isn’t flat?

    I like the torus idea though. It would be interesting to see how the variations in gravity between the inside and outside would affect the number of home runs.

  18. JerBear on May 7th, 2009 11:04 am

    As per FSN, this is the 5000th game for Dave Niehaus.

    Yeah, I heard that yesterday. Good on Dave. 5,000…man that’s alot of broadcasts.

  19. wabbles on May 7th, 2009 11:10 am

    If the Earth is flat then Jose Vidro would be batting fourth. Oh wait…

  20. Axtell on May 7th, 2009 11:16 am

    It’s funny that Baker in his blog is essentially taking credit for suggesting to Wak that Guti be moved up to #2, which is something I’m sure he read here. Hilarious.

    And yes, why is RH Wlad batting today? I understand wanting to mix things up, but another RH bat isn’t the way to go.

  21. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 11:17 am

    Ichiro!

  22. Colm on May 7th, 2009 11:18 am

    If the earth was flat, it’d be easier for Carlos Silva to walk around it without getting short of breath.

    Seriously. That pitcher’s mound he has to climb – no wonder he has difficulty! He’s puffed by the time he gets to the top.

  23. JerBear on May 7th, 2009 11:20 am

    I love Guit’s approach at the plate… he really does make a great #2 hitter.

  24. joser on May 7th, 2009 11:22 am

    Damn Ichiro, getting hits, stealing bases, all of which only hurts the team while inflating his stats. He would be a much better teammate, and contribute positively to clubhouse chemistry, if he hit into more outs like the rest of the lineup.

  25. AssumedName on May 7th, 2009 11:22 am

    Say what you will about Yuni, but his strikeouts aren’t as drawn out as Gutz’s.

    That was sarcasm.

  26. AssumedName on May 7th, 2009 11:24 am

    Not that Jose is slow or anything, but how the hell does he get an infield single?

  27. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 11:26 am

    That looked like it was gonna be ball four russel the muscle.

    Honestly, this line up has been so painful to watch the last few games when they get a chance. That was the perfect opportunity to get an early lead out of the gates and the guys who are supposed to get those people in (Branyan, Beltre) fail to do so.

    That situation should be automatic for at least one.

  28. alexD on May 7th, 2009 11:26 am

    Nice job Russ, swinging at two pitches out of the strike zone.

  29. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 11:27 am

    Bannister likes to leave pitches up in the zone, maybe he is channeling his inner-Silva. Oh wait, he actually got out of an inning without giving up 4 runs.

  30. joser on May 7th, 2009 11:27 am

    Interesting: of current Mariners, Gutierrez has the second most PAs vs Bannister (10) behind Ichiro (11). Well, 11 and 12 now. Next on the list: Yuni, with 9. Not that I expect it makes much difference to Mr Hackomatic.

    Nothing sucks worse right now than having a friend who is a Royals fan. “Wow, why did you guys let Bloomquist go?” ha!

    As an alternative, get a friend who is a Phillies fan so you can listen to the same question about Raul Ibanez.

  31. tgf on May 7th, 2009 11:27 am

    Well, you know, except for the whole Jose Lopez batting THIRD thing … I mean, I guess somebody has to do it, but that just defies logic.

    Ouch, I didn’t see that part. I should have checked out the lineup myself before commenting….

  32. Dave on May 7th, 2009 11:29 am

    Would have preferred some runs, but 27 pitches for Bannister in the first is a step in the right direction, at least.

  33. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 11:35 am

    Even when Gutierrez is fooled he still makes the play. YOU CANNOT STOP THIS MAN!!

  34. alexD on May 7th, 2009 11:40 am

    GREAT AT BAT JR.

  35. Coolalvin206 on May 7th, 2009 11:46 am

    The feel good story this team was in April feels like years ago now.

    2008 Mariners are back baby and they are Finished.

  36. wabbles on May 7th, 2009 11:47 am

    Um….we had the leadoff batter on with nobody out. What happened? Does this offense realize it’s SUPPOSED to score? It’s not against the rules or anything is it?

  37. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 11:48 am

    GRIT!!!!

  38. Red Apple on May 7th, 2009 11:50 am

    The feel good story this team was in April feels like years ago now.

    2008 Mariners are back baby and they are Finished.

    Wow. Don’t go near any bridges today, ‘kay?

  39. Dave on May 7th, 2009 11:55 am

    Man, Rob Johnson sucks.

  40. wabbles on May 7th, 2009 11:57 am

    ICHIRO!

  41. Scottdids on May 7th, 2009 11:59 am

    I can live with 6-7 pitch strikeouts. At least a lot more than first pitch popups.

  42. wabbles on May 7th, 2009 12:01 pm

    ‘sigh’

  43. Butwheredoesthemeatgo on May 7th, 2009 12:01 pm

    If we are going to platoon at catcher having one be left handed and one right handed makes that so much more appealing and will provide better results. Time to switch out Rob Johnson and Clement, Johnson brings more off the table at the plate than Clement brings off the table behind the plate, hopefully management makes this move sooner rather than later.

  44. TomC on May 7th, 2009 12:06 pm

    Butwheredoesthemeatgo:

    You need to go back and read previous analysis on this topic by Dave. Clement’s opportunities with this team have been exhausted. For whatever reason he seems to not be able to hit major league pitching as well as his minor league stats would otherwise suggest. When Kenji was hurt they did not call up Clement – they called up Burke. Get used to Johnson as our backup catcher.

  45. Scottdids on May 7th, 2009 12:08 pm

    Oh no. Get ready for more Yuni after that.

  46. wabbles on May 7th, 2009 12:08 pm

    OK, so maybe use Burke as our backup catcher until Johnson gets things figured out? Or is Seattle and not Tacoma the place to do that?

  47. DMZ on May 7th, 2009 12:08 pm

    It is not the case that Clement can’t hit major league pitching, and it doesn’t follow from the fact that he hasn’t.

  48. griffin on May 7th, 2009 12:11 pm

    Oh no. Get ready for more Yuni after that.

    probably…god damnit.

  49. TomC on May 7th, 2009 12:12 pm

    Derek:

    My point was not that Clement could not hit major league pitching (maybe he can, maybe he can’t – I am not qualified to analyze his skill set) My point was that the Mariners seem to have given up on him as a catcher.

  50. RickMirerManiac on May 7th, 2009 12:12 pm

    Beltre’s power is back!

  51. DMZ on May 7th, 2009 12:13 pm

    Ah, right.

  52. Butwheredoesthemeatgo on May 7th, 2009 12:17 pm

    TomC:

    I think Dave would disagree with your post. He appears as frustrated with Clement not being brought up as I am and he was frustrated that Clement was not on the opening day roster, i think. When he states that the organization doesn’t seem to have a place for him on the ML roster and doesn’t feel very confident in him as a catcher doesn’t mean Dave or Derek or whomeever thinks it would not be a positive move to bring Clement up and send Johnson down, they are just analyzing the situation and seeing that the organization seems to not think this. Doesn’t mean I can’t plead for it to happen, the organization really wanted Silva to be a solid 3rd or 4th starter, now that isn’t working they are going to adjust, we can still hold out hope they will see the offensive struggles partially due to being so right handed and use an in house solution and bring Clement up to catch when the mariners are facing right handed pitching.

  53. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 12:20 pm

    Ichiro made that look way too easy.

  54. JerBear on May 7th, 2009 12:22 pm

    Do you think Jacobs could fit a bigger wad in his mouth?

  55. JerBear on May 7th, 2009 12:27 pm

    Also, Ichiro is awesome, and Rob Johnson sucks.

  56. JMHawkins on May 7th, 2009 12:29 pm

    Blowers was talking about how the problem is the M’s aren’t hitting with RISP. Well, now, that’s what happens when you face a RHP with half your lineup free-swinging righties who don’t walk and have low averages against same-handed pitchers. The handfull of guys who can get on base get on base and then rot out there while the rest of the lineup pops up the first pitch, strikes out, or rolls over into a DP.

  57. Doc on May 7th, 2009 12:29 pm

    Can only follow the game online today. We seem to be going against Cy Young followed by Greg Maddox every series…

  58. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 12:30 pm

    GRIT!!!!!!

  59. Carson on May 7th, 2009 12:33 pm

    Ya know, I really want to like Wak. I do. But, I think the team’s early luck has hidden some pretty bad moves.

    Shouldn’t Chavez like, NEVER be on the bench in a game like this unless he has the swine flu?

  60. Red Apple on May 7th, 2009 12:34 pm

    So, Clement can’t hit major league pitching and he’s a lost cause, some say? Here’s a comparison between Clement and another young player:

    Player A:
    PA H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
    149 33 6 2 5 19 6 42 .232 .264 .408 .672

    Clement, 2008:
    PA H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
    224 46 10 1 5 23 15 63 .227 .295 .360 .654

    Player A is Alex Rodriguez, 1995. Maybe they should have given up on him, too?

  61. Red Apple on May 7th, 2009 12:36 pm

    Brian Bannister seems to be channeling his dad today.

  62. JMHawkins on May 7th, 2009 12:38 pm

    Brian Bannister seems to be channeling his dad today.

    Nah, more like the M’s batters are channeling his dad.

    Floyd Bannister, lifetime OPS .383.

    But then he was a pitcher.

  63. Scottdids on May 7th, 2009 12:42 pm

    Bannister is at 100 pitches already.

  64. cgmonk on May 7th, 2009 12:44 pm

    Third double play for KC today.

  65. joser on May 7th, 2009 12:44 pm

    Red Apple: the comparison is even better if you use Clement’s entire MLB appearances (two years) vs ARod’s first two years.

    ARod: Two years of September call-ups, 196 ABs across 65 games, producing just 5 home runs, a couple of triples, for an average of .218 and a sad .559 OPS.

    Clement: two years of September call-ups,: 219 ABs across 75 games, producing 7 home runs and a triple, for an average of .237 and a .701 OPS

    I’ve used exactly that comparison myself in arguments more than once.
    (I also used it with Adam Jones in response to all the people who kept saying AJ had had his opportunity and hadn’t shown anything and was a mediocre player who would never hit in the majors… I wonder where those people are now?)

    Of course ARod was a teenager when he put up those lines, whereas Clement is in his mid twenties with a college career under his belt. So it’s not exactly fair. But the point is not that Clement could be another ARod, it’s that in limited opportunities at the start of a pro career, ARod didn’t look like Arod either.

  66. Diehard on May 7th, 2009 12:44 pm

    Wow Seriously What the Hell? This team just wants to lose today. Bannister sucks and they make him look like Cy Young. ugh

  67. dchappelle on May 7th, 2009 12:45 pm

    where’s the hustle from Lopez? that was terrible.

  68. griffin on May 7th, 2009 12:46 pm

    what happened to our offense man? seems like the past 4 games or something, 85% of our at bats are weak groundballs. are we really facing top aces or what? very frustrating that we can’t get ANYTHING put together.

  69. joser on May 7th, 2009 12:49 pm

    It’s all about Griffey. That’s why the team has been doing so well, haven’t you heard? Griffey’s back, so the team was in first place. Then when he was out with the inflamed : they missed his chemistry. Now that he’s back in the lineup they… wait, what?

  70. Dave on May 7th, 2009 12:50 pm

    Yes, if only someone would have been able to see this coming. Perhaps that someone should have identified the overly right-handed nature of the line-up as a flaw a week ago. I mean, who could have possibly predicted that the team would struggle to hit right-handed pitching with six right-handed bats in the line-up?

  71. mironos on May 7th, 2009 12:51 pm

    M’s have now scored 3 runs in their last 26 innings.

  72. joshfromjapan on May 7th, 2009 12:51 pm

    I don’t think anybody on this team, and I mean ANYBODY, can call Ichiro selfish.

  73. JEidem on May 7th, 2009 12:52 pm

    Wow. 2 on and no out.. do we HAVE to ground into a double play? Brian Bannister has a career K/9 of 4.8. 3.4 so far this year, and yet somehow we’ve managed to fan 7 times through 6 innings. That’s a K/9 of 10.5… awesome.

  74. joser on May 7th, 2009 12:55 pm

    Well, that’s one way to boost your (and the team’s) OBP, Adrian

  75. EastCoastMsFan on May 7th, 2009 12:56 pm

    Wow, Beltre is just so out of sync. Swinging at 2 balls in the dirt, we got lucky he got hit there.

  76. griffin on May 7th, 2009 12:56 pm

    ANOTHER GROUNDBALL HELL YEAH

  77. EastCoastMsFan on May 7th, 2009 12:56 pm

    Another wow, DP number 4.

  78. JerBear on May 7th, 2009 12:58 pm

    Woo hoo, another DP. This is just pathetic.

  79. wibnrml on May 7th, 2009 12:58 pm

    joser: What if we would turn the torus inside out?

  80. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 12:58 pm

    Oh no Rob Johnsons up.

  81. JEidem on May 7th, 2009 12:59 pm

    Hmmm… when I noticed he was facing a LHP I thought to myself “Wlad’s gonna go yard.” Then when I saw the swing I thought it was gone. Now we just have to watch him rot on second. … yep. Rob Johnson strikeout. That’s just swell.

  82. nickwest1976 on May 7th, 2009 1:00 pm

    Rob Johnson should have been pinch hit for…too bad we don’t have a bat like Clement on the bench to do it.

  83. joser on May 7th, 2009 1:01 pm

    Rizzs on the radio talking about Joe Dunigan hitting 3 HRs last night without mentioning that High Desert may be the easiest place to do that in professional baseball.

    Still, it’ll make for a fun entry in next week’s minor league report.

  84. nickwest1976 on May 7th, 2009 1:01 pm

    Can we please end the Rob Johnson experiment? Nice kid and decent catcher but he can’t hit for a lick and this team needs some offense.

  85. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:01 pm

    Through 7 innings, the M’s have had 4 AB’s with a runner on first. They have hit 4 ground balls. 3 turned into DP’s, Avila booted the other one.

  86. johndango on May 7th, 2009 1:02 pm

    How do these guys even qualify as Major League hitters?

  87. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:03 pm

    Oops, missed one. Branyan struck out with Lopez on first. So, 0-5 with 3 DPs with a runner on first.

  88. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:04 pm

    How much does Rob Johnson have to fail to be sent down?

  89. Red Apple on May 7th, 2009 1:07 pm

    Yeah, this whole lefty-righty matchup thing is SO revolutionary! Why, only the geekiest sabremetric statheads are on to it.

    Honestly, it puzzles me that managers go way overboard with in-game situational matchups to the point of insanity, but turn a blind eye to the starting lineup.

  90. Red Apple on May 7th, 2009 1:07 pm

    How much does Rob Johnson have to fail to be sent down.

    Apparently a lot more than Clement.

  91. JEidem on May 7th, 2009 1:09 pm

    Any fantasy streamers out there should look to see if Scott Baker is available in your leagues. He’s had a horrible start thus far (0-4, 9.15 ERA, 1.50 WHIP and 16K:5BB through 20.2) and there’s a decent chance he would have been dropped. He is a RHP however, and facing the Mariners tomorrow (and we’ll run out a bunch of right handed hitters)… and he’s a much better pitcher than Sidney Ponson or Brian Bannister, so he should be a nice plug and play tomorrow.

  92. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 1:10 pm

    How much does Rob Johnson have to fail to be sent down.

    Apparently a lot more than Clement.

    Is that even possible?

  93. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:11 pm

    On the bench: Betancourt, Johjima, Sweeney, Chavez. Three RH batters and a LH who is 3 for his last 29. That’s been Dave’s point…there are no weapons for Wakamatsu to use against RHP.

  94. wabbles on May 7th, 2009 1:13 pm

    First we lose 9-1 to the K.C. juggernaut and now we’re down 2-0! Oh the inhumanity! When will it end?

  95. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 1:14 pm

    The line on Bucky Beaver: 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R (1 earned), 0 BB, 5 K

    Okay, who is that guy and what did he do with the real Jarrod Washburn?

    Seriously, when did this guy learn to pitch like this? I’m aghast at the results for him through his six starts.

  96. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 1:15 pm

    3-for-3. Nice. Too bad another multi-hit game gets wasted.

  97. Butwheredoesthemeatgo on May 7th, 2009 1:17 pm

    lopez, walk so we can get branyan up against a righty, hopefully.

  98. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 1:19 pm

    yuck.

  99. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:24 pm

    Barring a seeming miracle, this will be the 15th game of the 29 so far that the M’s offense has generated 3 runs or less. Tough to win with an offense like that.

    Another nice start wasted. Nice game by Washburn.

  100. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 1:26 pm

    Not that this is much of a solution, but why can’t Johnson or Cedeno try to bat left-handed?

    It’s not like either could get results much worse than they’re getting batting from the right side what with garnering the season’s first back-to-back natural hat tricks.

    If we’re lucky, they’ll both get another chance to bat and can make a strong run for tandem golden sombreros.

  101. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:29 pm

    Balentein has a good arm. perfect throw.

  102. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 1:31 pm

    It’s now or never people. Time to put on your rally caps!!

  103. HamNasty on May 7th, 2009 1:32 pm

    That pick off should never work, glad it did though.

  104. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:32 pm

    How about that. KC goes 1-1 in the 8th….outs are a sacrifice, thrown out at the plate, and picked off of first. So White gets credit for an inning pitched without retiring anyone, in effect.

  105. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:33 pm

    Lets make a comeback!!

  106. JMHawkins on May 7th, 2009 1:35 pm

    Not that this is much of a solution, but why can’t Johnson or Cedeno try to bat left-handed?

    Hmmm, makes me think. Maybe Clement should turn around and bat right handed. If he could turn himself into a free-swinging RH pull hitter, he might have a chance of being called up.

    Since apparently the M’s think LH catchers are bad luck or something.

  107. joser on May 7th, 2009 1:35 pm

    Not that this is much of a solution, but why can’t Johnson or Cedeno try to bat left-handed?

    Right, because trying to do something you’ve never done in your life is likely to work out better. You’re aware that Cedeno actually has hit RHP a little better than LHP over the course of his career? It’s too small a sample to be valid, of course — very few players actually have reverse platoon numbers — but he’s not as bad as he’s shown today. And the right answer is to get more LH bats in the lineup, not hair-brained attempts to get people to learn to do something that takes years to master.

  108. Butwheredoesthemeatgo on May 7th, 2009 1:35 pm

    regressing to the mean is not very fun. Reality bites.

  109. cgmonk on May 7th, 2009 1:36 pm

    Woah, that camera was shaking on the Beltre at bat.

  110. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:38 pm

    If Balentien gets on here, will Wakamatsu pinch hit for Johnson?

  111. joser on May 7th, 2009 1:39 pm

    joser: What if we would turn the torus inside out?

    Yeah, I thought about that. But then presumably you’re spinning it to provide gravity, and that only works on the inside of the outer ring. If you build walls along the edge of sufficient height, you no longer need the inner “roof” — and you’ve arrived at Niven’s Ringworld.

    Note that regardless of the overall topology, using spin to provide a gravitational effect is going to be a factor in your baseball game unless the diameter involved is very large (ie miles across or more). As the diameter gets smaller the Coriolis effect is going to cause the ball to curve to the left or right (to the extent the mound-plate axis is perpendicular to the direction of rotation). You’d probably lay out the field so that the mound and plate lie along the direction of rotation, but throws around the diamond would be affected; meanwhile pitches, throws in from the outfield, and batted balls would tend to drop faster or slower than expected depending on whether the plate was towards the up- or down-spin direction.

    When I was a kid I dreamed up a 3-dimensional baseball to be played in zero-g, inside a 3D diamond (shaped like the classic diamond gem shape) constructed of trampoline-like panels between rigid struts (since you can’t run, you have to push off and “fly” ballistically); the bases were suspended beachball-like things with handholds; the ball and bat would be more like whiffle ball. I also imagined a sort of hockey played in an arena of two such diamonds attached end to end, so that the points at either end were the goals, and the players would use Trac Ball “rackets” and balls.

    I was a weird kid.

  112. Axtell on May 7th, 2009 1:39 pm

    There was no one available to run for Griffey?

  113. joser on May 7th, 2009 1:39 pm

    If Balentien gets on here, will Wakamatsu pinch hit for Johnson?

    Sweeney on deck

  114. jayaresea on May 7th, 2009 1:39 pm

    How about that. KC goes 1-1 in the 8th….outs are a sacrifice, thrown out at the plate, and picked off of first. So White gets credit for an inning pitched without retiring anyone, in effect.

    Sounds perfect for Stark’s next column.

  115. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 1:40 pm

    If Balentien gets on here, will Wakamatsu pinch hit for Johnson?

    You have to no questions.

  116. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 1:41 pm

    Ugh, Sweeney.

  117. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:41 pm

    Home run from Mike Sweeney right here.

  118. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:41 pm

    Hmmm. Guess so…

  119. TomC on May 7th, 2009 1:42 pm

    When I was a kid I dreamed up a 3-dimensional baseball to be played in zero-g, inside a 3D diamond (shaped like the classic diamond gem shape) constructed of trampoline-like panels between rigid struts (since you can’t run, you have to push off and “fly” ballistically);

    I was a weird kid.

    You don’t say.

  120. JMHawkins on May 7th, 2009 1:42 pm

    Good grief, I just looked at Yuni’s O-Swing%. Career, he’s 31.0%, but in 2008 he was 33.8% and this year so far he’s swinging at 44% of the pitches outside the zone. And his IFFB% is at 35%, up from his career average of 16.5%.

    So, it’s not just that his approach is bad, it’s getting worse.

  121. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 1:43 pm

    TWO OUT RALLY!!!

  122. Scottdids on May 7th, 2009 1:43 pm

    Why would you pinch-RUN with Chavez and pinch-HIT with Yuni in this situation? I realize the tying run is on 1st now but you need a bat now.

  123. Lauren, token chick on May 7th, 2009 1:44 pm

    Oh good god. Yuni pinch-hitting?!

  124. Axtell on May 7th, 2009 1:44 pm

    hahaha pinch hitting with Yuni. Take care everyone.

  125. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:44 pm

    I’m sure Yuni will work Soria for a walk to bring Ichiro up.

  126. TomC on May 7th, 2009 1:45 pm

    Yuni taking close pitches? Will wonders never cease.

  127. joser on May 7th, 2009 1:46 pm

    Betancourt taking pitches. Dogs and cats living together…

  128. Lauren, token chick on May 7th, 2009 1:46 pm

    Pheewww.. according to GameCast that Ball 3 was right on the edge of the zone.

  129. Go Felix on May 7th, 2009 1:46 pm

    YUNI WALKED!!!!!!! CHAMPAGNE TIME!!!

  130. JMHawkins on May 7th, 2009 1:46 pm

    Woa! I think the torus just turning inside out.

  131. Lauren, token chick on May 7th, 2009 1:46 pm

    HAHAhahahah! EEEEEEeeee!

  132. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:47 pm

    How’s that for a prediction?

  133. Scottdids on May 7th, 2009 1:47 pm

    I take back my criticism. GREAT walk by Yuni! C’mon Ichiro!!

  134. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 1:47 pm

    oh my god. another walk!!

  135. pgreyy on May 7th, 2009 1:47 pm

    Consider my mind blown.

  136. joser on May 7th, 2009 1:47 pm

    Buh-by, Axtell, you’re missing the only exciting part of this game.

  137. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:47 pm

    Come on Ichiro!!

  138. don52656 on May 7th, 2009 1:48 pm

    How’s that for a prediction?

  139. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:48 pm

    Come on Ichiro!!

  140. Lauren, token chick on May 7th, 2009 1:48 pm

    Ugh.

  141. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:49 pm

    Come on Ichiro!!

  142. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:49 pm

    Come on Ichiro!!

  143. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:49 pm

    Come on Ichiro!!

  144. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 1:50 pm

    joser,

    First of all, stop being a uber-sensitive numbskull. My post was funny. Well, it was to me, at least. Secondly, learn to sense a little sarcasm.

    Does striking out three times from one side of the plate seem like high-production at bats to you? Good grief… it was a JOKE!

    http://www.derh-da-derh.com/whodathunkit

  145. jvalentine on May 7th, 2009 1:52 pm

    bad news: M’s can’t score runs and lose for Washburn who pitched very well.

    good news: Oakland-5, Texas-0 Top of the 5th.

  146. Red Apple on May 7th, 2009 1:53 pm

    “Hi, Lord of the Underworld here. My goodness, there’s a chill in the air. Whoa, almost got hit right on the noggin with some pig poop falling from the sky. And look at that odd creature — why, it appears to be the hybrid offspring of two domesticated animals — it’s purring AND wagging its tail at the SAME TIME!”

    Yuni has drawn another walk.

  147. benihana on May 7th, 2009 1:53 pm

    Great AB by Yuni…really thought that grounder to the left side was gona find a hole. Just glad they made it interesting

  148. benihana on May 7th, 2009 1:54 pm

    Go A’s!

  149. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 1:55 pm

    Yuni has two walks… in the same month?

    *GASP!*

    ::: thud :::

  150. madwlad on May 7th, 2009 1:56 pm

    well at least we did’nt get shut out.

  151. seattleslew on May 7th, 2009 1:59 pm

    I might be totally out of my mind but should the M’s give Ray Durham a call?

    Seems like he would be a great addition off the bench. Dave?

  152. seattleslew on May 7th, 2009 2:01 pm

    I mean, give him a call now, this minute!

    Come on Jack, duh!

  153. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 2:08 pm

    Ray Durham… seriously?

    The M’s are reduced to wondering if they can pick up Ray friggin’ Durham? Wow. If that’s not a new low, then I don’t know what is.

    Wait… unless you meant to pitch?

  154. seattleslew on May 7th, 2009 2:11 pm

    He’s a better option than Betancourt at the plate.

  155. seattleslew on May 7th, 2009 2:12 pm

    Actually, he’s probably a better option than Betancourt entirely.

  156. Elwood P. Dowd on May 7th, 2009 2:18 pm

    I would not mind going with 11 pitchers and Durham on the bench. He’ll help more than the seventh reliever.

  157. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 2:18 pm

    True, he is.

    So is a fifty-pound sack of rotten onions, and it’d come much cheaper.

    How many mid-to-late-30′s guys do the M’s need on the roster? Griffey, Sweeney, Batista, Stark and Branyan just aren’t enough, so let’s add a 38-year-old second baseman who’s lost two steps, has no power to speak of, and hasn’t played in more than about 130 games since 2001 or 2002 or so?

    Ehhh… I’ll pass.

    Stick to the craptastic crap we have now. Forget about acquiring shiny and new craptastic crap. Then again, he could be like the Mariners’ own version of Vinny Testaverde. Kinda. But, less hair and a smaller nose. And no arm.

    Drastic measures aren’t necessary at this point, just 29 games in. Replacing a backup MI with another backup MI wouldn’t hurt, no, but would it really help? Possibly.

    Sorry about the ridiculous replies. Just bent at another silly loss based on having no switch-hitters and not enough lefties to fill a single hand.

    POOOOOO!

  158. rmac1973 on May 7th, 2009 2:20 pm

    Why we had 12 pitchers to start with is a mystery to me.

  159. seattleslew on May 7th, 2009 2:28 pm

    He batted .303 with a .385 OBP last year against righties. That’s good enough for me.

  160. Axtell on May 7th, 2009 2:56 pm

    joser-

    walks are hardly ‘exciting’ though with this offense I suppose they will have to do.

    I get the feeling that this team is rapidly falling back to where they should be (remember the 77 wins that most everyone predicted?) and a lot of people are upset because they saw the 15-10 start and thought it could be sustained. As was pointed out in a previous post here at the USS, their record in one-run games could have meant the team easily could have been 10-15.

    I’m not in favor of rash decisions, and I’m sure Z and Wak have figured what’s out there now is closer to their skillset than the previous 25 games. I don’t see Bedard in an M’s uniform next year, regardless of his performance this year. What I most hope for is that Wash and Bedard continue to pitch well enough that we can deal them by the deadline for a boatload of talent. Enough that we can leave Silva out to dry and make the roster moves we need to make to undo the years of abuse by the previous regime.

    M’s fans, we need patience now more than ever. Yes, it’s frustrating as hell (believe me, I’ve been very frustrated) especially tasting as much success as we did. But we can’t delude ourselves into thinking this incredibly flawed team should have had any business winning as many games as they had.

    The first pieces are in place, but there’s still a ton of work to do to undo Bavasi’s mess.

  161. griffin on May 7th, 2009 3:04 pm

    bad news: M’s can’t score runs and lose for Washburn who pitched very well.

    good news: Oakland-5, Texas-0 Top of the 5th.

    doesn’t matter if they lose, we can’t win or put anything together as of late, so they can lose all they want, if we cant show up on offense, it really doesn’t matter.

    “slump” has finally hit the mariners now.

  162. wabbles on May 7th, 2009 3:48 pm

    “the roster moves we need to make to undo the years of abuse by the previous regime.”

    LOL That reminds me of Hannibal Lecter describing Buffalo Bill in “Silence of the Lambs.” “Our dear Billy wasn’t born that way. He was made that way by years of systematic abuse.”
    So true, so true.

  163. eponymous coward on May 7th, 2009 5:09 pm

    Yes, it’s frustrating as hell (believe me, I’ve been very frustrated) especially tasting as much success as we did. But we can’t delude ourselves into thinking this incredibly flawed team should have had any business winning as many games as they had.

    The offense isn’t this bad. Really. They are actually OPS’ing UNDER where they were last year, and I’m not buying that the offseason moves in toto made them worse.

    Unfortunately, yeah, they are a ~.500 team with lots of flaws (too many impatient RHB, bad players at SS and C, some veterans who are cluttering the roster).

  164. Diehard on May 7th, 2009 8:11 pm

    Well they are still above .500!

  165. xxtinynickxx on May 7th, 2009 8:25 pm

    Just watched Mark Bellhorn rock one out of the park against Portland….I use to love Bellhorn even though he played for the Red Sox just always thought he could be such a Mentor……….

  166. hoponpop01 on May 7th, 2009 9:10 pm

    Just watched Mark Bellhorn rock one out of the park against Portland….I use to love Bellhorn even though he played for the Red Sox just always thought he could be such a Mentor……….

    Yea, we need 35-year old who hasn’t had an OPS+ over 80 since 2005 and strikes out every three at bats to “bring the clubhouse together” like we need another right-handed, 93-96 mph fastball only bullpen arm.

  167. xxtinynickxx on May 7th, 2009 9:27 pm

    [deleted, extremely dumb]

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