Game 38, Red Sox at Mariners

DMZ · May 17, 2009 at 12:00 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Masterson v Vargas.

Ha ha ha ha it’s funny because I end up sitting near her every time I go to a Mariner-Red Sox game and now I don’t go.

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127 Responses to “Game 38, Red Sox at Mariners”

  1. zzyzx on May 17th, 2009 12:09 pm

    I got to walk with two of them on my way out last night arguing over whose idea it was to come to Seattle and whose plans were more important. That was a TREAT let me tell you.

    Man what would Cubs fans be like if they won a series or two?

  2. dw on May 17th, 2009 12:13 pm

    The Rays today sent out a lineup card with two 3b and without a DH. As a result, Sonnastine is batting third instead of Longoria.

    Come on Red Sox, you can do it.

  3. jimmylauderdale on May 17th, 2009 12:35 pm

    Man what would Cubs fans be like if they won a series or two?

    I have to think that they would be worse. Plus, with the whole, “I used to watch them on WGN when I was growing up” excuse you have no end to how many people could claim a place on the Cubs bandwagon.

  4. cdowley on May 17th, 2009 12:36 pm

    The Rays today sent out a lineup card with two 3b and without a DH. As a result, Sonnastine is batting third instead of Longoria.

    Come on Red Sox, you can do it.

    I read that on Yahoo earlier… had me busting up laughing. Isn’t Maddon supposed to be the smartest manager in the game or something like that?

  5. JMHawkins on May 17th, 2009 12:41 pm

    Guti moves up to #2 today.

  6. joser on May 17th, 2009 12:52 pm

    Hmmm. Evidently there’s an entire media genre of which I’m unfamiliar. WTF is that from? Wait, don’t tell me, I don’t want to know. There’s a reason I don’t pay for cable.

    Man what would Cubs fans be like if they won a series or two?

    Well, generally speaking they seem to take up more physical space, so that might make it even worse.

    Isn’t Maddon supposed to be the smartest manager in the game or something like that?

    It’s the absent-minded professor thing.

  7. joser on May 17th, 2009 12:54 pm

    Anyway, perhaps he is a genius:

    The unplanned lineup change didn’t hurt the Rays in the fourth inning, though. [Pitcher] Sonnanstine came to the plate with Michel Hernandez on second and two out and lofted a double over Cleveland left fielder Ryan Garko’s head to give the Rays a 7-3 lead. It was Sonnanstine’s fifth career hit, and his first for extra bases.

  8. JMHawkins on May 17th, 2009 12:57 pm

    Hmmm. Evidently there’s an entire media genre of which I’m unfamiliar. WTF is that from? Wait, don’t tell me, I don’t want to know. There’s a reason I don’t pay for cable.

    I don’t know what the show’s name is, but – to put it in baseball terms – it’s a replacement level show.

  9. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 1:00 pm

    In spite of Maddon’s boneheaded lineup card screwup, Sonnanstine had an RBI double in that game.

    Hmmm…maybe Wak should think about batting the pichers once in a while just to spark the offense.

  10. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 1:07 pm

    I have to think that they would be worse. Plus, with the whole, “I used to watch them on WGN when I was growing up” excuse you have no end to how many people could claim a place on the Cubs bandwagon.

    Funny you should mention that, since the Cubs still seem to have more fans down in Arizona yet these days than the D’Backs do.

  11. b2 on May 17th, 2009 1:18 pm

    I was at the game last night and a guy behind me asks the Red Sox fan next to him where in New England he was from. He answered, “We’re from Winthrop?”
    M’s fan asks, “Is that Winthrop, Mass?”
    Red sox fan responds, “No, Winthrop Washington.”
    M’s fan, “Oh, okay.

  12. JMHawkins on May 17th, 2009 1:18 pm

    Listening to the radio, it sounds like they have some audio glitch that’s occassionally patching Rizzs’ broadcast into the PA system.

  13. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:18 pm

    I could definitely see Felix batting third against a lefthander.

    Masterson versus Vargas. I’m sure that’s why everyone bought their tickets to this one.

  14. joser on May 17th, 2009 1:19 pm

    Holy crap. Colorado in Pittsburgh: Ubaldo Jiménez held the Pirates to 1 run over 6 innings but his pitch count hit 115. The Rockies go to their bullpen for the 7th, and all hell breaks loose: the first two relievers (Daley and Embree) give up 5 runs without recording an out; Manny Corpas gets two outs but not without giving up 5 more runs. By the time Grilli recorded the third out of the inning, the Pirates had put a 10-spot on the board.

    And we think the M’s bullpen is a little scary.

  15. Jack.Hartsock on May 17th, 2009 1:20 pm

    Saw a man in a Boston hat being obnoxious get his butt kicked outside of Dante’s (bar in the U District) at closing last night.

  16. joser on May 17th, 2009 1:20 pm

    Listening to the radio, it sounds like they have some audio glitch that’s occassionally patching Rizzs’ broadcast into the PA system.

    Maybe they’re trying to boost stadium alcohol sales.

  17. DMZ on May 17th, 2009 1:22 pm

    11-game hitting streak. Ichiro’s so selfish.

  18. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:24 pm

    Why are we bunting in the first inning?????

  19. DMZ on May 17th, 2009 1:24 pm

    arrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  20. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 1:25 pm

    Unlike the Rays earlier, that Rocks-Bucs game sounds like an instance of where a positional player perhaps should have been pitching rather than hitting.

  21. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:32 pm

    That was a terrible throw by Betancourt.

  22. Lauren, token chick on May 17th, 2009 1:34 pm

    Oh, Yuni. :(

  23. Diehard on May 17th, 2009 1:36 pm

    Great Yuni screwed Vargas hard right there. Bases loaded and the great Red Sox bandwagon is chanting their drunken cheers.

  24. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 1:36 pm

    Am I a part of “Mariners Nation” when I go to games on the road?

  25. joser on May 17th, 2009 1:36 pm

    Yeah, perhaps Adam LaRoche can pitch — in the midst of all that scoring, the Pirates’ “clean-up” hitter has gone 0-4.

  26. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:40 pm

    Am I a part of “Mariners Nation” when I go to games on the road?

    In my experience, Mariners fans on the road (me included) are too much of the “Seattle nice” to make themselves known. I remember watching Tino hit a grand salami at Jacobs Field in 1995 and we were the only ones in the very full park standing and cheering and we almost immediately sat down again.

  27. joser on May 17th, 2009 1:41 pm

    Am I a part of “Mariners Nation” when I go to games on the road?

    I think Mariners Nation follows Groucho’s dictum: “I wouldn’t want to to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” It’s a “nation” of bowling-alones.

    Meanwhile, the Fangraph for the Twinkies-Yankees game> is pretty entertaining.

  28. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 1:43 pm

    Am I a part of “Mariners Nation” when I go to games on the road?

    Only if you promise to be as unnecessarily loud, drunk, and obnoxious as you possibly can be — after all, it’s no “fun” unless you completely take over the other team’s park. :o

  29. Scottdids on May 17th, 2009 1:43 pm

    Great job by Vargas there. Thanks for nothing Yuni… Argh!

  30. JMHawkins on May 17th, 2009 1:45 pm

    I like home runs.

  31. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:45 pm

    Mr. Branyan shows the easier way to score a run.

  32. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 1:46 pm

    Ah, Yuni — the untotal package.

  33. Diehard on May 17th, 2009 1:46 pm

    Branyan to Red Sox Nation: Suck on THAT!

  34. Lauren, token chick on May 17th, 2009 1:48 pm

    Yes! Some actual TRY!

  35. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:49 pm

    Example of results-based analysis there. Yuni had no business going to second there. Yeah, he made it because the throw was lousy. A decent throw, he’s out by five feet.

  36. Lauren, token chick on May 17th, 2009 1:49 pm

    Huh. What happened to the editing? I’m sure this was discussed but I missed it.

  37. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 1:49 pm

    I just saw Ichiro laughing and joking around with Branyon in the dugout. What a clubhouse cancer that guy is. ;-)

  38. Lauren, token chick on May 17th, 2009 1:50 pm

    Baker: I suspect you’re right, but it’s nice to see him erring on the side of putting extra effort into it for once.

    CEDEÑO!

  39. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 1:50 pm

    RON-NIE!!

  40. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:52 pm

    Baker: I suspect you’re right, but it’s nice to see him erring on the side of putting extra effort into it for once.

    The problem is that that extra effort will encourage him to another dumb play later. He scores on the triple from first, yes?

  41. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 1:55 pm

    Why is Balentien starting? Should he and Griffey ever be in the same game?

  42. b2 on May 17th, 2009 1:57 pm

    Why again is our best offensive player batting 5th while today’s clean-up hitter is 11th on the team in OPS?

  43. juneau_fan on May 17th, 2009 1:58 pm

    Not to be shallow, but Dustin Pedroia found a way to make himself uglier with that ‘beard.’

  44. SequimRealEstate on May 17th, 2009 1:59 pm

    Showing how a double play is done.

  45. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 2:02 pm

    Maybe Pedroia’s starting his “playoff beard” early this year.

  46. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 2:03 pm

    Maybe Pedroia’s starting his “playoff beard” early this year.

    He might need to, since the playoffs are by no means guaranteed for Boston this year.

  47. SequimRealEstate on May 17th, 2009 2:04 pm

    Is there anyway statistically you can make a case for Johnson vrs. Clement? I just don’t see it.

  48. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 2:07 pm

    Boo hoo Drew! :(

  49. Diehard on May 17th, 2009 2:10 pm

    D.L Drew earning his giant paycheck for a change…

  50. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 2:11 pm

    Vargas seems to have the mind of a closer, i.e., giving up that shot or having an error behind him doesn’t bother him at all. The anti-Washburn, in other words.

  51. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 2:15 pm

    In Washburn’s defense, over his time with the M’s, if he gives up more than a run or so the game is over because the M’s certainly weren’t going to score more than that with him on the mound. :-)

  52. JerBear on May 17th, 2009 2:34 pm

    Nice!!! I can’t believe Vargas got out of that.

  53. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 2:34 pm

    Bases loaded, no outs, no problem. I am liking this pitcher.

  54. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 2:38 pm

    I like how Vargas keeps everything down; even when he’s missing. He also works both sides of the plate.

    It makes me wonder how in his short career he’s been so awful previous to the M’s. Are we just seeing him during a time where he’s got great command or has he matured as a pitcher?

  55. jmb13 on May 17th, 2009 2:40 pm

    Ichiro is valuable for that reason. His legs consistently turn nothing into something. Some people take that too for granted…

  56. JerBear on May 17th, 2009 2:41 pm

    I want a double steal.

  57. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 2:41 pm

    Note to Wak: two on, none out better than one on, one out. Thus, please ignore the sacrifice bunt in early innings. Thank you for your attention.

  58. marcwolf on May 17th, 2009 2:41 pm

    One or the other. Yuni takes balls and hits. Then starts making errors in the field. Can he multi-task hitting and good fielding in one game?

  59. jmb13 on May 17th, 2009 2:41 pm

    It makes me wonder how in his short career he’s been so awful previous to the M’s. Are we just seeing him during a time where he’s got great command or has he matured as a pitcher?

    I’m thinking that maybe the M’s will have a player that does well for us that sucked everywhere else, for once. As opposed to a player sucking for the M’s and doing well somewhere else, its a welcome change of pace

  60. JMHawkins on May 17th, 2009 2:42 pm

    Oh, Dave really wanted to call a HR for Jr.

  61. JerBear on May 17th, 2009 2:43 pm

    I really wish Beltre would quit trying to crush every pitch he sees.

  62. zvazda on May 17th, 2009 2:43 pm

    Oh Dave. Thanks to you, my Dad and my heart’s jumped into our throats simultaneously.

  63. juneau_fan on May 17th, 2009 2:45 pm

    I knew that was coming when Franklin didn’t move up the fly ball. *sigh*

  64. Scottdids on May 17th, 2009 2:46 pm

    One or the other. Yuni takes balls and hits. Then starts making errors in the field. Can he multi-task hitting and good fielding in one game?

    Wait, when was the good fielding that went with the poor hitting?

  65. Scottdids on May 17th, 2009 2:49 pm

    I dont know if I send out Vargas this inning. That pitch count is getting up there for a guy who needs stretching out still. I hope I’m wrong.

  66. tomas on May 17th, 2009 2:50 pm

    Bogus Bat Beltre strikes again. Sheesh

  67. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 2:50 pm

    Between the two foul home run depth shots yesterday by Griffey and the two deep flyouts today it seems like his swing is starting to come around.

  68. juneau_fan on May 17th, 2009 2:57 pm

    Idiot Sims. North to Alaska did not have Maureen O’Hara as John Wayne’s co-star, it was the ill-fated but lovely Cappuccino.

  69. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 2:59 pm

    Sean White is the new Sean Green.

  70. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 3:01 pm

    3 double plays so far, and we should have had another one in the 2nd.

  71. Scottdids on May 17th, 2009 3:02 pm

    I love when Sims oversells a bad joke from Blowers.

  72. marcwolf on May 17th, 2009 3:02 pm

    Scottdids, I stand corrected. Yuni never has been able to chew gum and walk straight. Did i say walk?

  73. jmb13 on May 17th, 2009 3:02 pm

    Sims really sucks at fake laughing. I highly doubt he’s seen that “Light Bat” commercial.

  74. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 3:06 pm

    What was that?

  75. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 3:06 pm

    What just happened?

  76. bakomariner on May 17th, 2009 3:07 pm

    So the bunt was fair, runner tagged out, then WLAD is off the base cause he thought it was a foul, and then he is tagged?

  77. bakomariner on May 17th, 2009 3:08 pm

    Oh…I thought Rob was tagged…

    Still…wow…

  78. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 3:10 pm

    Rob Johnson just fooled his own runner by not running that out (and me and some of the red sox during the play)…

  79. Milendriel on May 17th, 2009 3:10 pm

    Rob isn’t content to get only himself out, apparently. I don’t care if he got hit in the hand, he had NO reason to walk back towards home.

  80. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 3:10 pm

    Hello are we going to see a Clement call up now?? Johnson injured???

  81. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 3:11 pm

    Yeah…quite the little comedy of errors to end that last inning, wasn’t it?

  82. JerBear on May 17th, 2009 3:11 pm

    huh… So no ill will against Johnson, but if he broke something there and we get to stop watching him in the lineup I won’t complain too much. Unfortunately I’m not holding out hope that they’ll bring Clement up, but I’ll take what I can get.

  83. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 3:11 pm

    So where’s the first base coach in all that?

  84. psquared on May 17th, 2009 3:13 pm

    Rob and Vlad should have listened to the umps as the home plate ump clearly signaled a fair ball. Still, the ball hit Rob on the hand so it’s a hit by pitch. But since he offered at it, it’s a strike and a dead ball. The ump blew that 100%.

  85. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 3:20 pm

    Is it just me or does it seem like both teams are doing everything they can to make sure they don’t win this game?

  86. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 3:24 pm

    The dumb head first slide into first.

  87. cgmonk on May 17th, 2009 3:24 pm

    Cedeno sliding headfirst on that base hit, followed by Blowers and Sims talking about how it slows you down.

  88. jmb13 on May 17th, 2009 3:28 pm

    Dave Sims orgasms at Pedroia play…

  89. JerBear on May 17th, 2009 3:28 pm

    I can’t stand Pedroia, but that was a heck of a play.

  90. b2 on May 17th, 2009 3:29 pm

    So that’s what second baseman with range looks like.

  91. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 3:29 pm

    Funny how the fans were none too pleased with Ichiro getting called out and Cedeno going to 2nd with 2 outs, when that’s exactly the situation the M’s were hoping to achieve in the 6th before the Johnson/Wlad debacle.

  92. Scottdids on May 17th, 2009 3:29 pm

    That was a nice play by Pedroia but he still rates a solid 9 out of 10 on the douchebag meter.

  93. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 3:32 pm

    Soooo…I wonder where Dustin Pedroia currently ranks on Baseball’s Top 10 Most Hated list?

  94. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 3:32 pm

    It’s amazing to me how often Major Leaguers scoff at physicists and what not who prove these types of things (that it’s faster to run through first for instance) and continue to do these things wrong often risking injury for no good reason.

    “Not going to let no nerds tell me how to play!” :-)

    They would shat themselves (except Ichiro and any Japanese player) if they read the studies done on diving vs running through to make a catch when you are at or near full speed. :-)

  95. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 3:35 pm

    Lowe just hit 99!

  96. scott19 on May 17th, 2009 3:35 pm

    Speaking of Baseball’s Most Hated list, I wonder how long it’ll take pig Lackey to start throwing at everybody tomorrow night?

  97. cgmonk on May 17th, 2009 3:36 pm

    Rob Johnson has a bruise on his middle index finger as per Sims.

  98. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 3:40 pm

    He’s been consistently 97-98 before today to. We haven’t seen this out of him since before his injury. Last year he occasionally hit 96 or so but was usually 93-94mph.

    Could be that last year he was afraid to let it go when throwing.

  99. Scottdids on May 17th, 2009 3:41 pm

    Rob Johnson has a bruise on his middle index finger as per Sims.

    Funny, Johnson has caused me to bruise my middle fingers a lot too this year from their overuse towards my TV screen. Karma, Rob!

  100. Mike Barton on May 17th, 2009 3:41 pm

    Who needs a changeup, Lowe is getting almost 15mph of separation on his slider.

  101. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 3:41 pm

    He’s been consistently 97-98 before today to. We haven’t seen this out of him since before his injury. Last year he occasionally hit 96 or so but was usually 93-94mph.

    Could be that last year he was afraid to let it go when throwing.

    He was throwing 93-94 earlier this year too. We’ve only seen this from Lowe the last 3 or 4 times out there. It would be awesome if he could regain his form as a legitimate relief ace.

  102. cdowley on May 17th, 2009 3:45 pm

    Pay attention, boys… this is how you work the count

  103. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 3:56 pm

    Was there any doubt on that 3-1 count they were going to throw Beltre something low and away? And was there any doubt in anyone’s minds that he was going to swing for it?

    When Beltre’s going bad, he’s very predictable.

  104. cdowley on May 17th, 2009 3:56 pm

    ARGH! Two inches! Two more inches and he had that!

  105. cgmonk on May 17th, 2009 3:57 pm

    That was right at the wall.

  106. jmb13 on May 17th, 2009 3:57 pm

    Branyan sure tagged that ball.

  107. cdowley on May 17th, 2009 4:07 pm

    WTF was that? Talk about random…

  108. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 4:07 pm

    Anyone know how Branyan is at third defensively? I know it’s his normal position, but is he any good at it? Beltre will be gone at the half way point or next year and it’s starting to look like Branyan might just actually be a good hitter when given a chance to play every day.

    Having a lefty in Carp at first and a lefty in Branyan at third might be nice. :-) Throw in Ichiro and then put Clement at DH and the M’s would have a tad bit more balanced a line-up (just a little, but every little bit counts :-) .

    Trade Jose and get a good lefty second basemen and we’d be set. :-)

  109. hark on May 17th, 2009 4:14 pm

    bilbo–

    Granted the sample size is small, but Fangraphs has Russell’s fielding at just south of “fuckin’ terrible”:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=370&position=3B/OF#fielding

  110. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 4:15 pm

    “Russell’s fielding at just south of “fuckin’ terrible””

    Well dang. Maybe he’d be another good one to trade at the deadline then if he can keep this up. :-)

  111. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 4:16 pm

    Yuni’s swinging at pitches out of the zone again.

  112. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 4:18 pm

    ugh, denny stark coming on. Please score here M’s.

  113. Lauren, token chick on May 17th, 2009 4:19 pm

    A little high. Yes, that throw was indeed a little high. Yay!

  114. naviomelo on May 17th, 2009 4:21 pm

    Yeah!!!!!

  115. jmb13 on May 17th, 2009 4:21 pm

    Beautiful! I like Guti regardless of what people say.

  116. Scottdids on May 17th, 2009 4:21 pm

    DFT how I love you!

  117. cdowley on May 17th, 2009 4:22 pm

    GUTI!! HELL YEAH!!

  118. Lauren, token chick on May 17th, 2009 4:22 pm

    Yes! I had an unfounded feeling that we would pull this one off. Results-based analysis would say this feeling was founded, but I know better. :>

  119. Flowin on May 17th, 2009 4:23 pm

    GUTTTTIIIII!!

    That man is my hero.

  120. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 4:24 pm

    Wow, our number 6, 7, and 8 starters just managed to win a series for us against the Redsox… What a funny game this is. :-)

  121. jmb13 on May 17th, 2009 4:27 pm

    Wow, our number 6, 7, and 8 starters just managed to win a series for us against the Redsox… What a funny game this is.

    To take from Lauren, results based analysis would say we have about 6 to 8 great starting pitchers.

  122. bilbo27 on May 17th, 2009 4:27 pm

    And now we get the limping U.S. L.A. Angels of Anaheim on Earth in the Milky Way coming in. Hopefully Bedard’s hammy will be good enough to go in the series.

  123. mln on May 17th, 2009 5:38 pm

    I have two things to say:

    Mariners win.

    And I’m glad that … I’m not from BOSTON!!1!

  124. dingla on May 17th, 2009 6:21 pm

    wtf? lol, but id like that 1:57 of my life back.

  125. Breadbaker on May 17th, 2009 7:00 pm

    On the postgame show, Drayer said that Yuni told her that he doesn’t like hitting ahead of Ichiro. It took Drayer and Hasselman a long time (including a commercial break) to even come up with a plausible theory why that would be true. They said that since the pitcher would rather not face Ichiro, Yuni thinks they will throw him nothing but strikes. They weren’t buying it, as well they should not, because they knew the word was out that Yuni would swing at anything.

    The one thing they didn’t point out is that some of the worst games he played were the ones he was batting seventh. I don’t think anyone was worried about Rob Johnson hitting behind him.

  126. Admiral Adama on May 17th, 2009 7:55 pm

    Isn’t Maddon supposed to be the smartest manager in the game or something like that?

    Maybe it’s less professorial and more prophetic: Sonnastine capped their big inning w/ a RBI double and got the W.

  127. msb on May 17th, 2009 8:07 pm

    Idiot Sims. North to Alaska did not have Maureen O’Hara as John Wayne’s co-star, it was the ill-fated but lovely Cappuccino.

    Did spell-check fix Capucine there? :)

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