Wednesday trade mongering, rosterbation, and related topics
DMZ · July 29, 2009 at 7:35 am · Filed Under Mariners
Unrelated to Dave’s post on Clement, below. Stay cool.
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I just heard RBI Baseball Hall of Famer Todd Worrell might be involved in the Clement trade.
He’s very effective in games in which none of your players get stuck in the grand stands.
What I heard was that the trade was Clement and Morrow for Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy. That would make Safeco Field that “Happiest Place on Earth.”
That hilarious. I’ve never heard that one before!
Seriously, I can’t wait until the trade is announced, just so I don’t have to hear 43 versions of the exact same dumb joke told every five minutes.
While I’d love to put blame on trade anticipation, I didn’t sleep much last night due to the heat. Also, my girlfriend got a spider bite, so naturally, when waking up from heat I thought I had spiders on me.
Good times in Seattle.
I’m going to miss Clement. I had some high hopes when he got drafted. Too bad…
I feel your pain.
I think I had irrational expectations for Clement because he was the first player the M’s drafted once I started really following the team closely. (Read: found USSM and began my baseball re-education.)
I really do wish him the best wherever he ends up though. (As long as he goes 0-* whenever his new team is playing the M’s.)
Since the Yankees and Phillies keep popping up in speculations about a Washburn trade, what do they have to offer that the M’s might be interested in?
Pittsburgh could still be the third team that sends us stuff if we trade Clement to the AL. Could it be Clement, Morrow, Pribanic + maybe someone else for Sanchez, Wilson and Snell?
The re-education of scotje?
I don’t think I had unrealistic expectations for him. A slugging catcher coming out of one of the best baseball programs in the country? Yes, please. Lefty too? Oh, goodness.
Thank Jeebus there’s a game this afternoon, while I huddle in my feebly air-conditioned bedroom on this 108-degree day in Portland.
Can we trade Dave Sims for silence?
We traded Ron Fairly to retirement for Dave Sims, and you should be thankful for that every single day.
Not to get into a stupid argument about Mariners broadcasters, but really, Sims is the guy you’d get rid of?
Sims is worlds better than say…60% of baseball TV announcers.
I’d ditch Sims, yeah. Blowers is decent- a bit like he’s overly sedated, but alright. Niehaus seems barely there any longer but he’s Niehaus. Rizzs is radio-only and I rarely listen to the radio. SIMS, though, SIMS, that guy just seems fake. I can’t pinpoint it. Like he gets way too excited about a single and I don’t know, I feel like he looks at the Mariners job like someone looks at a TV weather job in some nowhere town- a step in a certain direction. Maybe it’s me.
So if the deal i s with Pittsburgh, which would we rather have? Wilson or Sanchez? Which player brings the most value to the Mariners?
Can we trade Clement and Dave Sims for Joe Buck?
Sims and Blowers are both awful. Just about every hit for the Mariners or opponent, Sims says, “That’ll sit down!” I know you’re not a baseball announcer, but how ’bout mixing it up a little bit?
And I’ve never been so pissed at him as when I was listening on the radio a couple weeks ago – M’s up 3-2 against Texas in the sixth – Sims’ call went like this – “Fly ball to right, Ichiro goes back, back. That one’ll leave the yard!!!!”
Has the man never heard of the descriptor “deep” to let the radio listeners know that the ball was hit deep? His call made it sound like a routine fly until it went out. LAME!
Blowers is too close to the players. I’m really sick of hearing him talk about “the guys”, as in “The guys aren’t going to like all those September callups – its going to be too crowded in teh clubhouse” (yes he really did say that in ’07)
And don’t get me started on those rally fries — after three years don’t you think the M’s could come up with a new gimmick?
It’s you. Rizzs is by far the worst; compared to him, Sims is a breath of fresh air. If you’re watching on TV you can always turn off the sound. If you’re in the car and have to listen to the radio to follow the game, you have no choice but to listen to Rizzs. He’s moronic. I’d personally pay the rest of his contract if they’d package him off to another team with Clement, Morrow, etc.
Joe Buck is terrible. One of the 10 worst broadcasters in baseball, easily.
Re Pirates: Sanchez is the better player, but Wilson fits the M’s needs more if we can’t find a better long term solution at shortstop.
Not that Sims is spectacularly good (though I’m with galaxieboi, there’s a lot worse out there), but were you not able to figure out from his description of Ichiro’s retreat that this must have been a deep fly ball, even before he tells you it’s a home run?
This seems excessively generous. I miss Jack.
After having the MLB package for Direct TV I have actually come to respect the on air team we have. I listened to the LA an KC feeds last week and they were a clueless bunch of ass hats. I still think I probably can listen to Vin Scully order his breakfast and be on the edge of my seat.
I think the Angels retained the rights to those players even as the team was released from Disney corporate bondage.
In other news, Bedard trade piece Tillman gets his debut tonight.
Could someone summarize Jeff Clement’s rise and descent as a Seattle prospect for me (or point me to a writeup on this subject)? Why is he not seen as a catcher/1B/DH for Seattle, but is tradeable as a prospect?
Jack Wilson to Seattle.
The Pirates are supposedly the other party in the Clement trade..
Clement and other minor leaguers for Jack Wilson and others
It looks like we just got Snell and Jack Wilson
Jack Wilson and Ian Snell for Clement, Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin, Nathan Adcock per Dejan Kovacevic.
MLB Trade Rumors stating Jack Wilson and Ian Snell for Jeff Clement, Ronny Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock.
I saw Clement for Wilson on MLBTR. Where do you get that Snell is in the deal?
I saw Clement for Wilson on MLBTR. Where do you get that Snell is in the deal?
Thank you. I wouldn’t trade an old worn-out chair with the springs through it for Joe Buck.
What’s interesting about today’s games is that may wind up being as hot — or even hotter — at game time here this afternoon as it will be for tonight’s Rangers-Tigers game in Arlington!
Crazy.
[Rizzs]
M’s are BUYERS ! btw, MLBTR is always one of the first places to post any baseball news
What moz57 said: It’s official. Snell + Wilson for Clement, Cedeno and Clinton’s full pitching staff.
A 27-year-old with an FIP of 4.57 and a 31-year-old with a wOBA of .300 is that all we got??
[If you can spell Zduriencik correctly once, you can spell it correctly the other two times]
I don’t understand what Pittsburgh intends to do with Clement. Unless they have another deal lined up with an American League team, he doesn’t seem to have much value to them due to his knees and limited defensive capabilities.
Wlad to the Reds…as per MLBTR.
I hope Z has a deal in the works for Wash. I still want a Brignac or Hardy.
Clement is going to play first, with Doumit at C, although I thought the Pirates were worried that Doumit might have to move to 1B at some point.
I like this deal for the M’s, especially if Wash gets moved in the next two days. The amount of salary the M’s are getting is roughly “half of Wilson’s salary in 2010.” They get an SS and a rotation piece for 2010 and did not have to give up any top prospects for him. A rotation next year of Felix, Snell, RRS, Vargas, Morrow is not bad and they should have a bunch of money to possibly re-sign Beltre and Branyan and pick up another bat. Plus, moving Washburn should help mitigate the loss of pitching depth in this trade.
Picked up a pitching prospect for Wlad.
That takes care of 1/3 of the prospects we lost to get Wilson and Snell.
Man, I hate for the M’s to trade Wash, because every time he goes out and everybody frets about him destroying his trade value, he’s pitching shutout baseball through 6 innings. But he’s just too darned valuable to somebody. Somebody (please be the Yankees!) is bound to overpay for him.
With the M’s picking up Snell, it does give them more flexibility to deal Wash — being as that, prior to today, it would have left them with Felix and (probably) RRS as the starters they could count on for the final two months. I know they’re essentially out of the race, but they still have games to play. Perhaps Vargas, too. Eventually Morrow, unless he’s going to be traded.
The more I think about the Wilson/Snell trade, the more I like it. The only thing I wouldn’t like is if Clement was a part of a deal to snag a Brignac, but maybe that was just a rumor. Seems his value was mostly because he was once a big hitter for a catcher.
Seems like the Astros could really use a pitcher; do they have any valuable shiny objects they would be inclined to dangle for Washburn? Then again, Washburn could get walloped in that park.
I haven’t heard a peep as to whether the Astros are buyers or sellers, but they’re hot in the race — they ought to be buying.
Maybe Zduriencik could get them to throw in Towles in a deal — seems like he could be useful.