Game 120, Mariners at Tigers

Mike Snow · August 19, 2009 at 4:04 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Snell vs. Verlander, 4:05.

Hall doesn’t arrive until tomorrow, which doesn’t matter too much considering you wouldn’t start him over Hannahan to face Verlander anyway. Josh Wilson is another story, though.

RF-L Ichiro
1B-L Branyan
2B-R Lopez
DH-L Griffey
CF-R Gutierrez
3B-L Hannahan
C-R Joh…jima
LF-L Saunders
SS-R Wilson

Comments

68 Responses to “Game 120, Mariners at Tigers”

  1. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 4:19 pm

    Gee, that’s two of the last three games in which we’ve had a Kenji sighting…what’s up with that?

  2. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 4:40 pm

    Too bad the Mariners don’t qualify for the Cash for Clunkers program.

  3. TranquilPsychosis on August 19th, 2009 4:42 pm

    Too bad the Mariners don’t qualify for the Cash for Clunkers program.

    Doesn’t the Yuni trade qualify?

  4. naviomelo on August 19th, 2009 4:44 pm

    I wonder what the chances are of us getting .260/.355/.485 production out of the DH slot next year.

  5. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 4:45 pm

    I was thinking more in the lines of the older models such as Sweeney, Batista, and an old classic Griffey. But yeah, Yuni will do.

  6. fiftyone on August 19th, 2009 4:49 pm

    Hud, you’re overlooking the fact that the Mariners have been throwing cash at clunckers for many years now.

  7. JHeino on August 19th, 2009 4:54 pm

    Stuck in Michigan with the Tiger’s announcers. However, they were full of praise for Felix and both picked him as the leading contender for Cy Young.

  8. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 4:55 pm

    I am getting tired/iritated/downright angry of not scoring runs. BTW, it was a little pathetic that Detroit intentionally walked number 3 to get to our cleanup hitter last night.

  9. Scottdids on August 19th, 2009 4:55 pm

    Over Greinke?

  10. Wood Dog on August 19th, 2009 4:58 pm

    Snell looking pretty good so far… at least on game cast.

  11. hidalgo on August 19th, 2009 5:01 pm

    Cash for clunkers – Wondering how much we could get for Silva. Problem is, they have to crush the clunkers and I don’t think Carlos would fit in the clunker crusher.

  12. mlathrop3 on August 19th, 2009 5:01 pm

    I wonder what the chances are of us getting .260/.355/.485 production out of the DH slot next year.

    If we get Ackley up next year we can have him, Saunders and Guti in the outfield. Then we can extend Ichiro’s contract so that he can DH until he is at least 45.

  13. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 5:04 pm

    I would love to see King Felix win the Cy Young this year. However, how much more would a Cy Young award cost the Mariners in contract extension dollars?

  14. Scottdids on August 19th, 2009 5:04 pm

    If they have Cash for Clunkers and its fixing the auto industry, maybe Cash for Fatties will fix health care? And help with our Silva issue.

  15. TranquilPsychosis on August 19th, 2009 5:05 pm

    If we get Ackley up next year we can have him, Saunders and Guti in the outfield. Then we can extend Ichiro’s contract so that he can DH until he is at least 45.

    Uh… You want to take Ichiro!’s defense out of the field why??

  16. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 5:07 pm

    Cash for fatties sounds like someone selling dope on the street corner.

  17. hidalgo on August 19th, 2009 5:07 pm

    If they released Silva the M’s could probably make up his salary with the savings on the catering bill.

  18. mlathrop3 on August 19th, 2009 5:12 pm

    If we get Ackley up next year we can have him, Saunders and Guti in the outfield. Then we can extend Ichiro’s contract so that he can DH until he is at least 45.

    Uh… You want to take Ichiro!’s defense out of the field why??

    Ok, maybe we will only DH Ichiro after he is 40. That still leaves a hole for next year:(

    I guess the question is, how long can Ichiro be productive at the plate? 4000 hits?

    I likey the double-play!

  19. hark on August 19th, 2009 5:15 pm

    Boo. That strike one (infield LD foul down the 3B line) on Kenji was fair.

  20. hititagainandagainandagain on August 19th, 2009 5:17 pm

    Ichi-ro!

  21. naviomelo on August 19th, 2009 5:17 pm

    ICHIRO!!!

  22. mlathrop3 on August 19th, 2009 5:18 pm

    I think I shall present my Ichiro! for DH argument again! Somebody’s been drinking their Kirin…

  23. Lauren, token chick on August 19th, 2009 5:47 pm

    See, y’all, the Anti-Tiresome Jokes Gods struck down the server. Now shut up about Silva’s weight.

  24. pensive on August 19th, 2009 5:51 pm

    Calling Joser, Msb, Lauren, even Alaska.

  25. az sr softball on August 19th, 2009 5:53 pm

    TV Producer–if you’re watching. FSN does not have the game on HD in Puget Sound. It’s on SD. Thanks, again. How do they forget this so many times?

  26. samregens on August 19th, 2009 6:04 pm

    Nice job by Snell and Sean White so far.

    I hope we don’t see Mark Lowe this game, but Olson is pretty scary too. Not to mention Kelley. Ughh. Jeez our bullpen (middle relief&setup) seems bad.

  27. Liam on August 19th, 2009 6:05 pm

    Ok, maybe we will only DH Ichiro after he is 40. That still leaves a hole for next year:(

    If Ichiro can’t play the outfield, then he probably won’t be able to beat out all those infield hits.

  28. Lauren, token chick on August 19th, 2009 6:07 pm

    LA LA LA LA ICHIRO WILL BE AWESOME FOREVER LA LA LA

  29. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 6:08 pm

    This stinks. I had to leave about the same time last game and I thought we had the game wrapped up. I may have to stay a couple more minutes…

  30. jefffrane on August 19th, 2009 6:08 pm

    Hey, Verlander, it’s the eighth inning. You don’t get to throw 97 mph in the eighth. It’s just not natural.

  31. naviomelo on August 19th, 2009 6:10 pm

    Lopez must have somewhere to go. That’s the third time he’s put the first pitch in play.

  32. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 6:13 pm

    Our 2nd-6th in the lineup are wearing the golden sombrero tonight.

  33. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 6:15 pm

    Oh no, not Lowe (again)…

    Don’t you have any other options, Wak?

  34. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 6:18 pm

    Hey, Verlander, it’s the eighth inning. You don’t get to throw 97 mph in the eighth. It’s just not natural.

    Yeah, that’s almost Nolan Ryan-esque.

  35. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 6:18 pm

    Mark Lowe 2009 = Sean Green 2007-2008. They both must have rubber arms. I think my right arm would choke me out if I tried to pitch every night. So far this is the good Mark Lowe.

  36. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 6:20 pm

    The good Mark Lowe tonight, indeed.

  37. AssumedName on August 19th, 2009 6:22 pm

    Okay, seriously…how many pitches has Lopez seen today? Four?

  38. AssumedName on August 19th, 2009 6:23 pm

    Oh, this is what happens when you pause the game during a meeting, then get back to it.

  39. Hud67 on August 19th, 2009 6:24 pm

    Apparently Jose did not get the Yuni memo.

  40. Lauren, token chick on August 19th, 2009 6:25 pm

    J. Lo must have used up his quota on that 118-pitch game-ending at-bat yesterday.

  41. msb on August 19th, 2009 6:25 pm

    Pretty quick game tonight– Aardsma last pitched saturday, right?

  42. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 6:28 pm

    Ssshh…don’t jinx the DA!

  43. samregens on August 19th, 2009 6:30 pm

    I feel much more comfortable with Johjima behind the plate.

  44. msb on August 19th, 2009 6:30 pm

    Michael is having a nice game.

  45. naviomelo on August 19th, 2009 6:31 pm

    Okay, seriously…how many pitches has Lopez seen today? Four?

    1st Inning: 3
    4th Inning: 1
    6th Inning: 1
    8th Inning: 1

  46. Liam on August 19th, 2009 6:31 pm

    Compared to the superstition on this site, clubhouse chemistry is verifiable fact.

  47. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 6:32 pm

    Well, at least he had a three-pitch at bat tonight.

  48. Liam on August 19th, 2009 6:32 pm

    Anyone notice that Sims called one of the Detroit relievers “The big guy”, the nickname he gave to JJ Putz?

  49. msb on August 19th, 2009 6:46 pm

    I have to say, this wasn’t the game I expected to see a win.

  50. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 6:47 pm

    Way to get one for Snell, DA!

  51. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 6:49 pm

    Also, I wonder if this is the record for the shortest game thread in USSM history?

  52. Paul B on August 19th, 2009 6:56 pm

    OK, Snell only got mentioned a couple of times here tonight.

    He did pretty well. Still was a little wild, although not as bad as previously, one more walk than strikeout. He gave up fewer fly ball than he usually does.

    Better. Hope he can continue to improve.

  53. Liam on August 19th, 2009 6:56 pm

    Game 77 earlier this year only had 39 comments.

  54. henryv on August 19th, 2009 6:59 pm

    Yeah, that’s almost Nolan Ryan-esque.

    Yeah, except Verlander doesn’t get away with cutting the ball. Or at least hopefully he doesn’t.

    Great game by Snell. Got quite a bit of help from the defense. But he did get squeezed a little bit, compared to Verlander.

  55. henryv on August 19th, 2009 7:00 pm

    Angie Mentink just had a “I wanna punch you in the face, Bill Kruger” moment on TV.

  56. msb on August 19th, 2009 7:19 pm

    Followed by the return (again) of Vinnie on the radio postgame.

    sigh.

  57. gwangung on August 19th, 2009 7:35 pm

    Well, not quite as sweet as if we were still in contention, but still….beating 2008′s win total while still in mid-August and with a winning records is pretty nice.

    This has been a pleasant season. Not a tremoundous WHOOPIEE season, but, still pretty damn enjoyable.

  58. Liam on August 19th, 2009 8:17 pm

    I’m not sure that 62 wins is worth celebrating. The Mariners were historically bad last year and set the bar very low.

  59. scott19 on August 19th, 2009 8:39 pm

    Yeah, except Verlander doesn’t get away with cutting the ball.

    Speaking of the Tigers, I remember a few years back when Brian Moehler got suspended a couple of starts for scuffing the ball — during a season when he lost 16 games.

    Even a friend of mine who’s a Tiger fan remarked about how if you’re gonna cheat, you should at least cheat to win — not cheat to lose.

  60. Kazinski on August 19th, 2009 9:23 pm

    I don’t know why some of youse is criticizing Lopez for not taking (m)any pitches, its not like he was facing a rookie/journeyman that has trouble finding the strike zone. He was batting against Jason fucking Verlander, he may not have hit anything but it’s hard to argue he is going to have a better chance working the count to 0-2, than swinging away at 0-0.

    You might note that Branyan and Gutierez were a lot more patient than Lopez, taking 3x as many pitches, and they were also 0-4 with 4 and 3 strikeouts respectively. At least Lopez put the ball in play. You might also note that Ichiro’s HR was on the first pitch. So much for patience, when you can expect a first pitch fastball over the plate.

    Taking pitches is great, but it is not a strategy that works against every pitcher. And a pitcher like Verlander with plus stuff that has no problem finding the strikezone is a perfect example of that.

  61. mw3 on August 19th, 2009 9:34 pm

    I think it might be time to go with an experimental lineup;

    Saunders
    Gutierez
    Ichiro

    …at the top.

  62. DMZ on August 19th, 2009 9:37 pm

    That would be experimental! Who is this Gutierez fellow?

  63. AssumedName on August 19th, 2009 9:42 pm

    I don’t know why some of youse is criticizing Lopez for not taking (m)any pitches

    Wese just noticing a pattern.

    Granted that swinging early may be a valid approach against a given pitcher, but I’m not sure Verlander was the difference. It just seems like he saw a lot more pitches earlier in the season.

    It’s especially frustrating to see him walk up after a four-pitch-walk and hack at the first pitch. (That’s an example, not an instance from tonight.)

  64. mw3 on August 19th, 2009 9:48 pm

    Those damn rolling rr’s.

  65. Kazinski on August 19th, 2009 9:49 pm

    OBP/ISO:
    Ichiro .395/.104
    Gutierrez .345/.153
    Saunders .297/.050

    I think Ichiro at 1 and Saunders at 9 are good where they are. Franklin at 2 is fine, but I’m not real upset at 5.

  66. Kazinski on August 19th, 2009 10:03 pm

    Granted that swinging early may be a valid approach against a given pitcher, but I’m not sure Verlander was the difference. It just seems like he saw a lot more pitches earlier in the season.

    I got confused because the criticism was in the game thread. But point taken, he is at 3.51 p/pa the second lowest of his career.

    But as an example of the advantages of changing an approach, check out Griffey’s line in this game. He went 2 for 4 with 2 2b and 3 rbi’s against Roy Halladay. On 7 pitches in 4ab. We won 3-2.

  67. DaveValleDrinkNight on August 20th, 2009 2:03 am

    Probably asking too much but what would it take to get Zobrist from the Rays?

    His OBP and power numbers are there, plus he’s an above average fielder at 2nd. He also has played every INF position outside of catching, well.

    Just saying.

  68. joser on August 20th, 2009 9:34 pm

    What possible reason could the Rays have for giving up Zobrist? You’d have to pay them a lot to pry him loose. You’d have better luck asking for Iwamura, now that Zobrist has Wally Pipped him. (And yes, I know that’s a myth).

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