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M’s rumored to be interested in signing, trading for, players
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Good…I heard the other 29 teams were also rumored to be interested in trading and signing players, and hoped the M’s would be, too!
I think we all learned last season (and over the course of the season itself) that whatever the rumor mill thinks Jack Z has cooking on the hot stove, the rumor mill is typically wrong. I, for one, am not going to worked up about any moves the M’s might make until they’ve actually made them (so I say now)
sorry: “not going to get worked up.” I’m apparently already distracted by all the chatter and failed to proofread.
That’s just crazy talk.
Word is they may be interested in trading some players away, also.
I heard they even had some players currently on the roster who were interested in the team signing or trading for other players.
I was hoping you’d post about the rumors! Yeah!
The off-season is so much better when your team doesn’t leak any information. Just sit back and wait for real news, no speculation needed.
I heard that they may even have interest in a contract extension for Felix Hernandez.
Oh this is just excellent news! Another great, great scoop for you newshounds! You must know people.
Joking aside, it is quite a relief to not be hearing things like: “We like our chances with the team we put on the field last year. We got a few bad breaks last season, and if everyone stays healthy, completely outperforms their projections, and the stars align nicely for us, we think we’ve got a shot at the division”
or something.
Or this is better than…..
We like the performance we got of the DH, not a typical power guy, but hit for average……as we believe Vidro’s infield singles are both a sustainable skill, and a good fit for the #4 spot.
What’s this OPS thing you say….?
Sweet! Is this were we post the baseless and nonsensical rumours about trading Griffey straight up for Pujols and whatnot? Just wondering!
(sorry)
Jimmie
hey so. I’m looking at ESPN’s free agents list and they have Bedard listed as a Type B. Just wondering if you think it’s worth offering him arbitration, would his salary still increase even with a half season injury? I doubt anyone would have interest in giving up a sandwich pick for an injured pitcher, but depending on the numbers we can offer, seems like it wouldn’t be a bad idea.
What an update! Can we throw around rumour and speculation?
The Reds are apparently shopping Phillips, maybe we could get him in a trade, and place him at 3rd to replace Beltre.
What does Phillips cost though? This is the calm before the storm. Did anyone read that article on Apparently the Mariners aren’t building for anything and not going after anyone this off season….Why does this guy have a job?
I would assume that Phillips would cost more than what the Mariners are willing to give up or should give up. What would the Mariners gain (+win wise) by having Phillips an everyday third baseman?
tmac9311-
Teams that sign Type B free agents don’t have to forfeit any draft picks. The team that lost the player will get a compensation pick, but it doesn’t at the expense of the team that signed him. Bedard being a type B should have no effect on another teams willingness to sign him.
The arbitration system very rarely reduces a players salary offering Bedard arbitration seems a little risky. Beltre on the other hand…..
Wow, that article you linked to is the worst article ever. Its like it was written in some sort of oppositeworld alternate universe, where the Mariners management is still terrible.
Mr. Corcoran seems like he has done no homework whatsoever reagrding the Mariners organization.
He is like my buddy that looks at the standing and says the Mariners “suck” b/c they finished 12 games back. Horrible article.
His main points aren’t that bad.
Thanks for the link. That’s 3 minutes I’ll never get back. (Yes, 3 minutes, I had to re-read it twice to be sure I wasn’t missing the snark)
Cliff Corcoran wrote that for cash its obvious the most h did on any research was looking at espn.com MLB standings…..oh wait he might have looked at SI.com’s…….I doubt it though……..
This is something a kid in grade school would write so he could get done with his homework quicker.
The fact that the guy is making sweeping judgments based on Pythagorean standings and thinks Bryan LaHair can meaningfully contribute at the Major League level tells you everything you need to know: he doesn’t know s**t about baseball, much less the M’s.
He apparently couldn’t even be bothered to read mlbtraderumors: I know how much stock we all put in that, but even there he could have learned that some writers (even one of his colleagues) are saying the M’s have been connected (probably erroneously, but still) to any number of trade targets or FA. Corcoran clearly doesn’t know his a** from a hole in the ground, and can’t be bothered to even read his own company’s web site. Let’s move on…
But, yeah: how do some of these stiffs get these great jobs?
Jackson/Granderson Day was fun; who will it be today? And when’s Felix Resigning Day?!?
I didn’t realize we had rotation and relief holes? It’s almost like Corcoran was writing about a different team? AL West is a second tier division? Why did that get published?
Unflattering pictures involving the CEO and a goat?
Ok, I just want to make fun of and refute some of the idiocies from that SI article, because it is so bad. I probably shouldnt get so worked up about an article thats this stupid, but I am.
Dave wrote an article a couple weeks back about how, using 3rd order wins, the Mariners were an 83 win team. So last years team was just slightly above average.
The writer mentioned that we gave up the fewest runs in the AL (and scored the least). Yes our offense is bad, but the run prevention was top in the league. Maybe we just need to…fix the offense?
The prospects in questions are Carp, Saunders, Tuiasosopo, and Moore.
Basically he is saying we should just give up on 2010 already.
Or we could do what the Mariners are actually doing, sign Griffey as Designated Hugger and then go try to find a free agent DH.
And while Griffey isnt that great, he is still just above replacement for a DH, and a much better hitter than Bryan LaHair!
Oh really. Yusmeiro is the answer? We have plenty of guys at or above the Yusmeiro Petit level. We have enough replacement or just above replacement guys, thats not our problem anymore.
Lets ignore the fact that we have tens of millions in payroll space, and have a reasonable chance at contention if we spend it well, and just give up insted. Wow.
Mariners arent targeting anyone, while the A’s are targeting Glaus and Tejada. That makes complete sense.
Wait, what? Chavez and Johjima are going to be playing for us come the spring? Did I miss a memo?
I agree. While it’s potentially less fun not to have leaks to speculate about, I’d rather have a well-run team (and a disciplined front office) that just gets things done with a minimum of aggrandizing (self- or otherwise… that’s the agents’ job). Less fun in the offseason, more fun during the season: I’ll take that trade. And in practice, the offseason leaks weren’t much fun when they were the Bavasi-esque “they’re targeting who!?!… and they’re willing to give away what!?!!” and the more ridiculous and misguided the rumors seemed to be, the more likely they were to be true.
I would rather target no one than Tejada and Glaus actually. haha
Wow. You guys can post anything and get a bunch of comments… Don’t let it go to your head.
Coffee out nose. Not fair.
On MLB Network this morning, one of their special guests (a columnist or some mystical wizard of baseball insight) declared the Mariners were one of 8 or 9 teams poised to make a serious run at John Lackey because “Lackey might want to stay on the West coast.” Also, Milton Bradley wants to live in a trash can because he’s grouchy.
Well, for all the wrong reasons, on this point the guy is absolutely right. LaHair aside, this is exactly the time we need to let Saunders, Moore and Tui show what they can do. We are not going to get substantively better unless we develop our own talent. Like 25 other teams, we are not going to outspend the Yankees, Red Sox and Mets on the free agent market (even if that were a viable way to improve).
The alternative is to spend payroll on the likes of Troy Glaus, who may hit well for a couple weeks until he pulls something other than a hanging slider. In the mean time, our prospects continue to rot in the minors.
To do otherwise is to repeat the Griffey mistake of last year. Just for grins, check out the CHONE projections this year for Griffey and Clement and decide who you’d rather have at DH…
if you goal is actually winning baseball games.
Actually the “logic” I’ve heard on the M’s interest in Lackey is mostly: The M’s have money to spend; Lackey costs money; therefore, the M’s are interested in Lackey.
Well, you folks are doing a good job of demolishing that craptastic article (3rd order wins! value of defense! I’m proud of you guys!) so I don’t feel the need to add to the fact pile… I’ll just note it’s called “Inside Baseball” because that’s where the guy is — and it’s kind of dark in there.
Don’t forget this is the same SI that employs jon Heyman as a regular columnist (and he’s the guy who, on the basis of one game’s observation, declared that Yuniesky Betancourt would be ending Jeter’s Gold Glove era).
Oh, wait, there is one “fact” I’d like to take issue with: the M’s are “a second-division club”? Well, hello east-coast bias. Let’s look at the expanded standings on the very site that pays Mr. Corcoran (and I can only hope they’re increasingly embarrassed about that): the Angels had a winning record against the other two AL divisions. The Rangers had a winning record against the other two AL divisions. The M’s had a winning record against the AL East. The A’s had a wining record against the AL Central. Altogether, the AL West was 96-78 vs the AL Central and 95-79 vs the AL East. So the division with a winning record against all the others is “second tier”?
We should be grateful that the East coast even lets us play baseball. Don’t ruin it!
What? Really? You’re kidding!!! WOO-HOO!!! YES!
Oh, wait a minute. . .
Well, they already took care of signing the non-players.
Sorry, you don’t provide any legitimate (or illegitimate) source for this headline, so you are just rumor mongering. Can’t believe you let yourself run your own blog …
Its nice to see the Mariners covered in some aspect by an east coast reporter. And he spelt everyone’s names correctly!
ell-oh-ell. This comment is full of win.
The whole thread is full of win. Periodic smirking and laughing all through the morning.
Cool!
I’m interested in players, too!
Of course, “Corky” does set himself up to write a later article about the M’s “unexpected” activity during the offseason. As we’ve seen with some of the local sports journalist “talent”, fabricating narratives to ensure future topics is more important (or at least easier) than doing to work to analyze the facts you’re actually given.
Mr. Concoran’s report on the M’s irks me considerably. Like the sheer stupidity the articles reeks with makes me keep re-reading it. How can someone write such non-sense. Let alone that, how can someone be PAID to write and come up with such utter B.S.
Don’t be surprised to see Trader Z make a swing for Curtis Granderson (CF/LF), Edwin Jackson (SP) and Brandon Inge (3B). Their salaries would be still under what it will take to Sign Jason Bay or Matt Holliday and still leave $$$ to sign John Lackey. What are we to give up? Brandon Morrow, Shawn Kelley, Michael Saunders, and two other M’s Minor Leaguers (none named Truinfel). This trade goes down and Lackey signs and the M’s are back in the postseason.
Teams that sign Type B free agents don’t have to forfeit any draft picks. The team that lost the player will get a compensation pick…
True, but there is a price to be paid. When you’re drafting in the 2nd round, and the player you want is taken just before you pick, you wish that there had been one fewer sandwich picks.
I’ve read Cliff Corcoran on three different blog pieces/articles.
Unimpressed. Very unimpressed.
Questionable, snap-judgment writing with obvious lack of thorough preparation/knowledge.
Corcoran’s got a large sign on his fake-wood desk that says ‘I’m A Big Ol’ Hack Writer’.
Makes me appreciate this USSMariner group all that much more.
“M’s rumored to be interested in signing, trading for, players
That’s just crazy talk.”
Actually, I found that news to be very encouraging. Remember, in past seasons the team signed, or traded for, such people as Miguel Cairo, Carl Everett, Jose Vidro and Carlos Silva. I’m sure they all are nice people but they hardly could be called baseball players when we acquired them.
Only one of those players is worth trading for. John Lackey is going to cost a really stupid amount of money.
Don’t be surprised to see people make stuff up, capitalize random words, and offer a weak grasp of how baseball works in our comments section.
When I saw the link to the terrible SI article by a guy named Corcoran, I thought it’s still a step up from Mcall, Idaho, traffic reports.
No kidding. I was going to start taking that proposal apart (Inge? In Safeco?) and then realized what my time is worth, and how early it still is in the silly season.
Just when did USSM become The Onion?
I keep expecting to see someone quoting Mike Sweeney denying Derek’s rumor entirely. “We have to keep everybody here,” said the man who would clearly be the first to go.
I understand the m’s are going to tade silva…………..for a bucket of chicken (extra crsipy)
Dave made a funny! Sadly though, it was accurate.
Just when did USSM become The Onion?
You took my comment Nathaniel…