M’s rumored to be interested in signing, trading for, players

DMZ · November 17, 2009 at 6:32 am · Filed Under Mariners 

It’s true.

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62 Responses to “M’s rumored to be interested in signing, trading for, players”

  1. GarForever on November 17th, 2009 6:54 am

    Good…I heard the other 29 teams were also rumored to be interested in trading and signing players, and hoped the M’s would be, too!

    I think we all learned last season (and over the course of the season itself) that whatever the rumor mill thinks Jack Z has cooking on the hot stove, the rumor mill is typically wrong. I, for one, am not going to worked up about any moves the M’s might make until they’ve actually made them (so I say now) :)

  2. GarForever on November 17th, 2009 6:56 am

    sorry: “not going to get worked up.” I’m apparently already distracted by all the chatter and failed to proofread.

  3. Mid80sRighty on November 17th, 2009 7:12 am

    M’s rumored to be interested in signing, trading for, players

    That’s just crazy talk.

  4. Carson on November 17th, 2009 7:28 am

    Word is they may be interested in trading some players away, also.

  5. rmnixon on November 17th, 2009 7:30 am

    I heard they even had some players currently on the roster who were interested in the team signing or trading for other players.

  6. Christopher Michael on November 17th, 2009 7:36 am

    I was hoping you’d post about the rumors! Yeah!

    The off-season is so much better when your team doesn’t leak any information. Just sit back and wait for real news, no speculation needed.

  7. mw3 on November 17th, 2009 7:40 am

    I heard that they may even have interest in a contract extension for Felix Hernandez.

  8. Nate on November 17th, 2009 7:42 am

    Oh this is just excellent news! Another great, great scoop for you newshounds! You must know people.

    Joking aside, it is quite a relief to not be hearing things like: “We like our chances with the team we put on the field last year. We got a few bad breaks last season, and if everyone stays healthy, completely outperforms their projections, and the stars align nicely for us, we think we’ve got a shot at the division”

    or something.

  9. lokiforever on November 17th, 2009 8:03 am

    Or this is better than…..
    We like the performance we got of the DH, not a typical power guy, but hit for average……as we believe Vidro’s infield singles are both a sustainable skill, and a good fit for the #4 spot.

    What’s this OPS thing you say….?

  10. Jimmie the Geek on November 17th, 2009 8:10 am

    Sweet! Is this were we post the baseless and nonsensical rumours about trading Griffey straight up for Pujols and whatnot? Just wondering!

    (sorry)

    Jimmie

  11. tmac9311 on November 17th, 2009 8:29 am

    hey so. I’m looking at ESPN’s free agents list and they have Bedard listed as a Type B. Just wondering if you think it’s worth offering him arbitration, would his salary still increase even with a half season injury? I doubt anyone would have interest in giving up a sandwich pick for an injured pitcher, but depending on the numbers we can offer, seems like it wouldn’t be a bad idea.

  12. Mustard on November 17th, 2009 8:31 am

    What an update! Can we throw around rumour and speculation?

  13. Mustard on November 17th, 2009 8:35 am

    The Reds are apparently shopping Phillips, maybe we could get him in a trade, and place him at 3rd to replace Beltre.

  14. MarinerFan on November 17th, 2009 8:39 am

    What does Phillips cost though? This is the calm before the storm. Did anyone read that article on Apparently the Mariners aren’t building for anything and not going after anyone this off season….Why does this guy have a job?

  15. Mustard on November 17th, 2009 8:43 am

    I would assume that Phillips would cost more than what the Mariners are willing to give up or should give up. What would the Mariners gain (+win wise) by having Phillips an everyday third baseman?

  16. Erik E on November 17th, 2009 8:51 am

    tmac9311-

    Teams that sign Type B free agents don’t have to forfeit any draft picks. The team that lost the player will get a compensation pick, but it doesn’t at the expense of the team that signed him. Bedard being a type B should have no effect on another teams willingness to sign him.

  17. gil on November 17th, 2009 8:56 am

    The arbitration system very rarely reduces a players salary offering Bedard arbitration seems a little risky. Beltre on the other hand…..

  18. Alex on November 17th, 2009 9:00 am

    Apparently the Mariners aren’t building for anything and not going after anyone this off season….Why does this guy have a job?

    Wow, that article you linked to is the worst article ever. Its like it was written in some sort of oppositeworld alternate universe, where the Mariners management is still terrible.

  19. Mustard on November 17th, 2009 9:09 am

    Mr. Corcoran seems like he has done no homework whatsoever reagrding the Mariners organization.
    He is like my buddy that looks at the standing and says the Mariners “suck” b/c they finished 12 games back. Horrible article.

  20. Typical Idiot Fan on November 17th, 2009 9:28 am

    His main points aren’t that bad.

  21. TranquilPsychosis on November 17th, 2009 9:30 am

    Apparently the Mariners aren’t building for anything and not going after anyone this off season….Why does this guy have a job?

    Thanks for the link. That’s 3 minutes I’ll never get back. (Yes, 3 minutes, I had to re-read it twice to be sure I wasn’t missing the snark)

  22. xxtinynickxx on November 17th, 2009 9:36 am

    Cliff Corcoran wrote that for cash its obvious the most h did on any research was looking at espn.com MLB standings…..oh wait he might have looked at SI.com’s…….I doubt it though……..

  23. Liam on November 17th, 2009 9:38 am

    BUILDING FOR: Nothing.
    TARGETS: None.

    This is something a kid in grade school would write so he could get done with his homework quicker.

  24. GarForever on November 17th, 2009 9:45 am

    Apparently the Mariners aren’t building for anything and not going after anyone this off season….Why does this guy have a job?

    The fact that the guy is making sweeping judgments based on Pythagorean standings and thinks Bryan LaHair can meaningfully contribute at the Major League level tells you everything you need to know: he doesn’t know s**t about baseball, much less the M’s.

    He apparently couldn’t even be bothered to read mlbtraderumors: I know how much stock we all put in that, but even there he could have learned that some writers (even one of his colleagues) are saying the M’s have been connected (probably erroneously, but still) to any number of trade targets or FA. Corcoran clearly doesn’t know his a** from a hole in the ground, and can’t be bothered to even read his own company’s web site. Let’s move on…

    But, yeah: how do some of these stiffs get these great jobs?

  25. gsquared on November 17th, 2009 9:47 am

    Jackson/Granderson Day was fun; who will it be today? And when’s Felix Resigning Day?!?

  26. djtizzo on November 17th, 2009 9:48 am

    I didn’t realize we had rotation and relief holes? It’s almost like Corcoran was writing about a different team? AL West is a second tier division? Why did that get published?

  27. TranquilPsychosis on November 17th, 2009 9:49 am

    But, yeah: how do some of these stiffs get these great jobs?

    Unflattering pictures involving the CEO and a goat?

  28. Alex on November 17th, 2009 9:52 am

    Ok, I just want to make fun of and refute some of the idiocies from that SI article, because it is so bad. I probably shouldnt get so worked up about an article thats this stupid, but I am.

    This is not a good team, it’s not getting better, and no amount of offseason tinkering is going to make it a good team.

    Dave wrote an article a couple weeks back about how, using 3rd order wins, the Mariners were an 83 win team. So last years team was just slightly above average.

    The writer mentioned that we gave up the fewest runs in the AL (and scored the least). Yes our offense is bad, but the run prevention was top in the league. Maybe we just need to…fix the offense?

    For that reason, the M’s should just take the first four prospects listed above, slot them into the lineup in place of Branyan, Chavez, Beltre and Johjima and see what happens.

    The prospects in questions are Carp, Saunders, Tuiasosopo, and Moore.

    Basically he is saying we should just give up on 2010 already.

    If Griffey wants to come back for another season in Seattle, they could use a DH. If not, they could get similar production out of Triple-A first baseman Bryan LaHair.

    Or we could do what the Mariners are actually doing, sign Griffey as Designated Hugger and then go try to find a free agent DH.
    And while Griffey isnt that great, he is still just above replacement for a DH, and a much better hitter than Bryan LaHair!

    Minus Jarrod Washburn and Bedard, the rotation is in need of some reinforcement, some of which may have just arrived in the form of a waiver claim on the Diamondbacks’ Yusmeiro Petit.

    Oh really. Yusmeiro is the answer? We have plenty of guys at or above the Yusmeiro Petit level. We have enough replacement or just above replacement guys, thats not our problem anymore.

    the M’s might as well stand pat this winter. They have nothing to gain by doing otherwise.

    Lets ignore the fact that we have tens of millions in payroll space, and have a reasonable chance at contention if we spend it well, and just give up insted. Wow.

  29. party4marty on November 17th, 2009 9:53 am

    Mariners arent targeting anyone, while the A’s are targeting Glaus and Tejada. That makes complete sense.

  30. georgmi on November 17th, 2009 9:58 am

    For that reason, the M’s should just take the first four prospects listed above, slot them into the lineup in place of Branyan, Chavez, Beltre and Johjima and see what happens.

    Wait, what? Chavez and Johjima are going to be playing for us come the spring? Did I miss a memo?

  31. joser on November 17th, 2009 10:02 am

    The off-season is so much better when your team doesn’t leak any information. Just sit back and wait for real news, no speculation needed.

    I agree. While it’s potentially less fun not to have leaks to speculate about, I’d rather have a well-run team (and a disciplined front office) that just gets things done with a minimum of aggrandizing (self- or otherwise… that’s the agents’ job). Less fun in the offseason, more fun during the season: I’ll take that trade. And in practice, the offseason leaks weren’t much fun when they were the Bavasi-esque “they’re targeting who!?!… and they’re willing to give away what!?!!” and the more ridiculous and misguided the rumors seemed to be, the more likely they were to be true.

  32. Mustard on November 17th, 2009 10:02 am

    I would rather target no one than Tejada and Glaus actually. haha

  33. ima-zeliever on November 17th, 2009 10:05 am

    Wow. You guys can post anything and get a bunch of comments… Don’t let it go to your head. :)

  34. bigherm on November 17th, 2009 10:11 am

    Coffee out nose. Not fair.

  35. et_blankenship on November 17th, 2009 10:17 am

    On MLB Network this morning, one of their special guests (a columnist or some mystical wizard of baseball insight) declared the Mariners were one of 8 or 9 teams poised to make a serious run at John Lackey because “Lackey might want to stay on the West coast.” Also, Milton Bradley wants to live in a trash can because he’s grouchy.

  36. diderot on November 17th, 2009 10:18 am

    the M’s should just take the first four prospects listed above, slot them into the lineup in place of Branyan, Chavez, Beltre and Johjima and see what happens.

    Well, for all the wrong reasons, on this point the guy is absolutely right. LaHair aside, this is exactly the time we need to let Saunders, Moore and Tui show what they can do. We are not going to get substantively better unless we develop our own talent. Like 25 other teams, we are not going to outspend the Yankees, Red Sox and Mets on the free agent market (even if that were a viable way to improve).

    The alternative is to spend payroll on the likes of Troy Glaus, who may hit well for a couple weeks until he pulls something other than a hanging slider. In the mean time, our prospects continue to rot in the minors.

    To do otherwise is to repeat the Griffey mistake of last year. Just for grins, check out the CHONE projections this year for Griffey and Clement and decide who you’d rather have at DH…
    if you goal is actually winning baseball games.

  37. kinbote on November 17th, 2009 10:24 am

    Actually the “logic” I’ve heard on the M’s interest in Lackey is mostly: The M’s have money to spend; Lackey costs money; therefore, the M’s are interested in Lackey.

  38. joser on November 17th, 2009 10:43 am

    Well, you folks are doing a good job of demolishing that craptastic article (3rd order wins! value of defense! I’m proud of you guys!) so I don’t feel the need to add to the fact pile… I’ll just note it’s called “Inside Baseball” because that’s where the guy is — and it’s kind of dark in there.

    Don’t forget this is the same SI that employs jon Heyman as a regular columnist (and he’s the guy who, on the basis of one game’s observation, declared that Yuniesky Betancourt would be ending Jeter’s Gold Glove era).

    Oh, wait, there is one “fact” I’d like to take issue with: the M’s are “a second-division club”? Well, hello east-coast bias. Let’s look at the expanded standings on the very site that pays Mr. Corcoran (and I can only hope they’re increasingly embarrassed about that): the Angels had a winning record against the other two AL divisions. The Rangers had a winning record against the other two AL divisions. The M’s had a winning record against the AL East. The A’s had a wining record against the AL Central. Altogether, the AL West was 96-78 vs the AL Central and 95-79 vs the AL East. So the division with a winning record against all the others is “second tier”?

  39. et_blankenship on November 17th, 2009 10:50 am

    We should be grateful that the East coast even lets us play baseball. Don’t ruin it!

  40. TomTuttle on November 17th, 2009 11:06 am

    M’s rumored to be interested in signing, trading for, players

    What? Really? You’re kidding!!! WOO-HOO!!! YES!

    Oh, wait a minute. . .

  41. Mike Snow on November 17th, 2009 11:44 am

    Well, they already took care of signing the non-players.

  42. kmsandrbs on November 17th, 2009 11:44 am

    Sorry, you don’t provide any legitimate (or illegitimate) source for this headline, so you are just rumor mongering. Can’t believe you let yourself run your own blog …

  43. amnizu on November 17th, 2009 11:50 am

    Its nice to see the Mariners covered in some aspect by an east coast reporter. And he spelt everyone’s names correctly!

  44. joser on November 17th, 2009 11:57 am

    Well, they already took care of signing the non-players.

    ell-oh-ell. This comment is full of win.

  45. gwangung on November 17th, 2009 12:17 pm

    The whole thread is full of win. Periodic smirking and laughing all through the morning.

  46. msb on November 17th, 2009 1:00 pm

    Cool!

    I’m interested in players, too!

  47. joser on November 17th, 2009 1:02 pm

    Of course, “Corky” does set himself up to write a later article about the M’s “unexpected” activity during the offseason. As we’ve seen with some of the local sports journalist “talent”, fabricating narratives to ensure future topics is more important (or at least easier) than doing to work to analyze the facts you’re actually given.

  48. Rboyle0628 on November 17th, 2009 2:38 pm

    Mr. Concoran’s report on the M’s irks me considerably. Like the sheer stupidity the articles reeks with makes me keep re-reading it. How can someone write such non-sense. Let alone that, how can someone be PAID to write and come up with such utter B.S.

  49. Dogham on November 17th, 2009 3:11 pm

    Don’t be surprised to see Trader Z make a swing for Curtis Granderson (CF/LF), Edwin Jackson (SP) and Brandon Inge (3B). Their salaries would be still under what it will take to Sign Jason Bay or Matt Holliday and still leave $$$ to sign John Lackey. What are we to give up? Brandon Morrow, Shawn Kelley, Michael Saunders, and two other M’s Minor Leaguers (none named Truinfel). This trade goes down and Lackey signs and the M’s are back in the postseason.

  50. John D. on November 17th, 2009 3:50 pm

    Teams that sign Type B free agents don’t have to forfeit any draft picks. The team that lost the player will get a compensation pick…

    True, but there is a price to be paid. When you’re drafting in the 2nd round, and the player you want is taken just before you pick, you wish that there had been one fewer sandwich picks.

  51. GarForever on November 17th, 2009 3:56 pm

    But, yeah: how do some of these stiffs get these great jobs?

    Unflattering pictures involving the CEO and a goat?

    Good one, Tranquil Psychosis, though I wonder if Mr. Corcoran is motivated enough even to go to THAT much trouble. Good extortionists are usually self-starter types…

  52. SonOfZavaras on November 17th, 2009 4:06 pm

    I’ve read Cliff Corcoran on three different blog pieces/articles.

    Unimpressed. Very unimpressed.

    Questionable, snap-judgment writing with obvious lack of thorough preparation/knowledge.

    Corcoran’s got a large sign on his fake-wood desk that says ‘I’m A Big Ol’ Hack Writer’.

    Makes me appreciate this USSMariner group all that much more.

  53. wabbles on November 17th, 2009 4:10 pm

    “M’s rumored to be interested in signing, trading for, players
    That’s just crazy talk.”

    Actually, I found that news to be very encouraging. Remember, in past seasons the team signed, or traded for, such people as Miguel Cairo, Carl Everett, Jose Vidro and Carlos Silva. I’m sure they all are nice people but they hardly could be called baseball players when we acquired them.

  54. aaron c. on November 17th, 2009 4:21 pm

    Don’t be surprised to see Trader Z make a swing for Curtis Granderson (CF/LF), Edwin Jackson (SP) and Brandon Inge (3B). Their salaries would be still under what it will take to Sign Jason Bay or Matt Holliday and still leave $$$ to sign John Lackey. What are we to give up? Brandon Morrow, Shawn Kelley, Michael Saunders, and two other M’s Minor Leaguers (none named Truinfel). This trade goes down and Lackey signs and the M’s are back in the postseason.

    Only one of those players is worth trading for. John Lackey is going to cost a really stupid amount of money.

  55. Dave on November 17th, 2009 4:39 pm

    Don’t be surprised to see people make stuff up, capitalize random words, and offer a weak grasp of how baseball works in our comments section.

  56. Ralph_Malph on November 17th, 2009 5:39 pm

    When I saw the link to the terrible SI article by a guy named Corcoran, I thought it’s still a step up from Mcall, Idaho, traffic reports.

  57. joser on November 17th, 2009 5:42 pm

    No kidding. I was going to start taking that proposal apart (Inge? In Safeco?) and then realized what my time is worth, and how early it still is in the silly season.

  58. nathaniel dawson on November 17th, 2009 5:44 pm

    Just when did USSM become The Onion?

  59. Breadbaker on November 17th, 2009 6:12 pm

    I keep expecting to see someone quoting Mike Sweeney denying Derek’s rumor entirely. “We have to keep everybody here,” said the man who would clearly be the first to go.

  60. ex tacoma in mendo on November 17th, 2009 8:25 pm

    I understand the m’s are going to tade silva…………..for a bucket of chicken (extra crsipy)

  61. TranquilPsychosis on November 17th, 2009 9:53 pm

    Don’t be surprised to see people make stuff up, capitalize random words, and offer a weak grasp of how baseball works in our comments section.

    Dave made a funny! Sadly though, it was accurate.

  62. lesch2k on November 18th, 2009 6:09 am

    Just when did USSM become The Onion?

    You took my comment Nathaniel…

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