Meta: user breakdown
Of interest to me — I looked up our stats today to see what browser share was (and, particularly, if we could stop policing comments for long, unbroken links, which make the site unreadable for some people).
USSM Reader OS
Windows 79%
Macintosh 19%
Not a huge surprise. And theeeeenn…
.6% Android
.6% Linux
.3% Blackberry
.1% iPhone
.1% Playstation 3
And even at .1%, that’s a lot of visitors.
Question 1: How in the world is Android ahead of iPhone? There’s gotta be a counting error here where iPhone stats are being tossed in the Mac bucket.
Question 2: if you have a PS3, are you really taking time off from Uncharted 2 and Infamous and this wave of awesome PS3 games to read USSM from the couch? Are you commenting? (if so, I salute your devotion)
USSM Reader Browsers:
IE 43%
Firefox (Win) 29%
Safari (Mac) 12%
Firefox (Mac) 7%
Chrome (total) 6%
I use my Nokia N97 but i guess that’s being counted as “blackberry”.
one would think the iphone should be higher on the list indeed.
Honestly, maybe it’s just me, but Infamous is boring.
I’ve read the blog for years and changed browsers a lot over that time (now using Chrome on my Mac) but I do regularly check in via Blackberry when travelling. USSM is pretty readable on a little screen and I remember wondering if I was one of the only ones who read the site that way. Guess not!
If using your PS3 to browse the web is strange, imagine doing it on the Dreamcast using dial-up.
I’m using Android to visit when I’m not home or at work. Its surprising to so Android beat out the iPhone and Blackberry, but I guess there are quite a few Android handsets out there now on multiple networks, so I guess I can believe that.
I check in all the time on my env touch, this blog and the mariners writer’s twitter list are priceless!
Using the PS3 to browse is stupid hard. The controller’s aren’t very accurate and hitting the right key is hard. It’s weird. I’ve surfed here on both my Laptop (using Google Chrome) and on my Blackberry using Opera Mini. And this site looks great on Opera Mini, one of the few readable sites. So that’s a bonus.
What I want to know is how is Chrome behind both Safari and Firefox on the Mac, and why are people still using that piece of junk Microsoft calls a browser. Explorer is horrible.
People are using Android because they want to be cool like me.
Us poor Opera users are a rare breed.
If I combined all the Opera variants, and round to the nearest percent, you’re 1%!
I really wanted to love inFamous, I really did. But at the end of the day… well I’ll put it in terms that the non-gamers here can understand.
Uncharted 2 = Cliff Lee
inFamous = Carlos Silva
Actually those comparisons only work if you were a savvy enough shopper to get Uncharted 2 for $20. And then you tricked some clueless parent in to buying inFamous off of you for $100 on eBay.
I would imagine that there is a much higher usage of wireless devices during the summer. I certainly love to access the site while sitting in my seats at Safeco.
This is weird — all I’d heard up to this post was praise.
I’m part of the Windows/IE and Blackberry percentages. I also read the site on my Kindle.
Ditto to coffee’s usage here. Windows/IE (though now and then Firefox), Blackberry and Kindle.
I’m all over the place. I used to use Safari on my Mac but since my wife got a new personal laptop, I’m probably up to 50% IE in Windows (I’m too lazy to install anything better for her). The rest of the time I’m checking it at work (IE on a PC, the federal government is really uninspired). Since Christmas, I’ve checked up on it with my Kindle on a few occasions and certainly will toa greater extent in the future. It’s slightly annoying to have to roll down to the 6th page before I get any content, but it’s legible and, even better, doesn’t cost me a dime in service charges.
I regularly read the site (and am posting now) from my aging Palm Treo 755p. Bet that’s a very tiny portion of your stats.
Likely to get an Android phone soon, so I’m hoping the a
Android win over the iPhone wasn’t a mistake
Just got the Moto Droid yesterday and USSM was the first site I went to while using it! It looked great on the device. Alas, I’m typing this on my computer (Windows/Firefox).
I smell a Droid Vs iPhone debate cooking.
Is that Firefox share pretty normal around the intraweebz? It’s amazing after all this time how many people still use IE when there are better options. Boiling frog, I guess?
My IT department, in all their wisdom, turned down my request for Firefox because “it has too many security risks.” The best part is – we’re still using IE6.
I love the mobile theme on my iPhone, by the way.
I spend most of my time on Chrome and then when I am away I am using my Palm Pre which would be considered as Linux. Site looks great from the Pre.
I use my Android to browse USSM to get around the IP block ruthlessly laid upon my home when I accidentally mentioned L—-c-m. It’s the best!
I am probably the .1% PS3 user. I don’t have a laptop at home, so on the weekends I browse the internet on the PS3. My only complaint is that the PS3 browser is incompatible with certain sites due to the plug-ins required.
I don’t play those games you mentioned though….more of a Modern Warfare 2/Demon’s Souls/Batman type of guy!
Just to add a few of my cents, I’m currently posting from Firefox on my PC. I also occasionally check in from my Samsung Omnia. I’ve also been known to check in on my PS3 when I can’t be arsed to get off my couch or use my phone.
And while I can’t say I’ve had the pleasure of playing Uncharted 2 yet, I will sooner or later. Oh, and I happen to think Infamous is a really fun game. It looks great in HD, and while it’s not terribly deep, it kept me entertained all the way through. Thankfully, that was only like 15-20 hours. Had they dragged it on much longer, it probably would’ve gotten annoying for me.
The Safari/Android stats interest me professionally. I checked on this site and found this sample Android user agent string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 0.5; en-us) AppleWebKit/522+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3
Now here’s a sample iPhone user agent string:
Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/1A543a Safari/419.3
A poorly-written sniffer that’s just had Android detection added might miss the distinctions and credit iPhone visits as Android visits. A poorly-written sniffer that’s used to provide a free analytics service by the company that just introduced the Android OS and has a vested interest in inflating the perceived adoption of Android certainly wouldn’t be poorly-written on purpose of course. I’d never stoop to insinuate such a conflict of interest could possibly influence corporate behavior. It’d never happen in a million years. Never.
Think I’ll take some time at work today to look at our mobile users some more. That doesnt’ mean optimizing the site for the 19 Blackberry users we had in November is a wise use of resources. But I am curious about the Android numbers.
I feel so olde-fashioned.
IE holds its lead at least partly through inertia. IE comes preinstalled on Windows, it works just fine, especially if you’ve got nothing to compare it with, so for a huge chunk of the user base, there’s just no reason to go changing.
It’s why bundling was such a big deal during the MS antitrust lawsuits–if you give away an OK product for free, it’s much harder for someone else to sell their competing product, even if it’s superior. (And even with browsers that are nominally free, the time and effort to download, install, and learn a new UI represent a cost.)
I’m kind of surprised that the Blackberry and iPhone numbers aren’t much higher. I probably check 2-3 times a day on my blackberry, and 2-3 days on Firefox.
I have checked it ONCE using my Nintendo Wii.
Ussmariner on iPhone may be the best site for reading while faking that I’m working
Is there a hard number behind these percentages…i.e., how many discreet viewers for the site?
I’m curious about a rough estimate of visitors bother to comment.
So to be super-geeky, by user-agent strings for October off the raw server logs:
8% Firefox on XP
6% MSIE 8 on XP
6% MSIE 6 on XP
4% Firefox on Vista
4% Firefox on XP, different version
4% Apple subscriptions (PubSub/65.11)
4% MSIE 8 on Vista
4% MSIE 7 on XP
3% “Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;)”
3% iPhone 3.1
2% Firefox on Mac
2% Firefox on XP
2% Firefox on Mac
2% MSIE 7 on Vista
2% iPhone 3.1.2
So yeah, I don’t think google analytics is parsing and grouping user agents correctly. We didn’t go from 5% iPhone to 0% in a month.
IE6? Dude…
This kind of thing always kills me. I am an IT professional, and in my experience those kinds of decisions are made at the management level, where the managers in question are there primarily due to the Peter Principle. I regularly and routinely promote how we as the IT organization need to be promoting and enforcing security, and pretty much without exception am told to STFU and GBTW. Of course, they then hire some consultant for $250K that does a “study” and comes back with the same fu$*&ng recommendations that I’ve been promoting for five years, and all of a sudden it’s a mad rush to implement said changes and “Why haven’t you done this already?!??!” *sigh* Beats being unemployed, I guess.
Sorry to get off on a rant there… I use my BlackBerry to read the site quite often, especially in boring ass meetings at work.
I also use Chrome at home but at work it’s IE all the way, baby. I need to hit the site a few times from my Linux machine to get that percentage up, too.
Jimmie
I frequently read USSM via Opera on my Blackberry… so I suppose I count here?
And, corporate/government IT departments, many of whom are desperately afraid of anything else.
I have used my PS3 browser on many occasions for checking in on LOL and USSM. In fact, my use alone is probably skewing the data. The recent addition of a bluetooth keyboard and mouse has been the greatest boon to my couch surfing. Finished Uncharted 2 a while ago (highly recommended), Modern Warfare 2 doesn’t captivate me all that much, and it’s hard for me to get that excited playing The Show with Yuni and Endy with the anticipation of what next year’s roster will include.
IE when I check from work (like now).
Blackberry when I’m reading at a red light or walking around town.
Firefox (PC) when I’m at home and not sitting on the can using my Blackberry.
I am one of the Mac OSX, Firefox users. I don’t really read the site on my iPhone though because to get back to your spot in the comments if the page reloads you end up flicking the screen down for 5 minutes. Not a bad thing, just the phone’s UI issue.
I don’t believe anyone wants to know what browser I’m using, so I am not going to write a post that says what browser I’m using.
I use Firefox on my PC to check the site when I’m at home and my iPhone when I’m “working.” The iPhone version of the site is incredible.
Also, I’m going to have to get into the dislike group in regards to Infamous. That game was terribly boring.
IE6 is still my favourite browser. I vastly preferred its UI and basic features. IE7 and IE8 both make major errors in basic UI design.
So I use Firefox, which I’ve modified to behave as much like IE6 as I can.
Come on, Elmer, you had to know this was going to be that kind of comment thread before you got into it, right?
[obligatory Kanye post goes here]
So, if I log in via my iTouch (say, for example, sitting in my living room in the early morning, trying not to wake up my girlfriend) do I show up as a Safari user? An iPhone user? Something else entirely?
Checking GA at work for the date range from 11/26 to today, and filtering results, I see:
iPhone 0.94%
iPod 0.20%
Android 0.12%
BlackBerry 0.03%
Playstation 3 0.03%
This is a site that gets a significant amount of traffic, although far, far smaller than most of I’ve worked on in the past. I’m sure it’s a bigger sample that U.S.S. Mariner though. We skew to older users with older systems. Upshot: I think your mobile stats are messed up but my conspiracy theory, like most conspiracy theories, isn’t holding water.
I looked for a “Gift Bump” by setting the date range at 12/25 to today, and might have found it:
iPhone 1.17%
iPod 0.27%
Android 0.15%
BlackBerry 0.07%
Playstation 3 0.03%
But that doubling of BlackBerry visits makes me wonder if the Gift Bump is also skewed by a “Travel Bump.” Of course the sample size there is ridiculously small so it might be pure noise.
Okay, back to work.
I am one of the Windows/FIrefox/IE/Android users depending on where I am.
I own a web development company and so I use all browsers also my new Moto Droid I love browsing on also like the plugin you just installed in the last week or two for wordpress. I actually just installed it on another site works well.
Honestly the Android platform though is rising up very quickly in the world.
Who has time to do anything on their PS3 but replicate Jack Z trades on MLB 09?
Well, I love my MSNTV2 system even though it’s ability to check e-mail and Internet AND watch television all from my lounge chair with a push of a button has given me the attention span of a gerbil on espresso.
I will say though that since it only has Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP, I LOVE, nay, ABSOLUTELY LOVE, the newer layout that shows up normally on my TV screen. It’s predecessor did not. Keep up the good work.
I just came off deployment and bought a droid. After that I didn’t find the need to get internet back, so I just used android. I don’t leave too many comments, but am on this site constantly. Of course right now I’m using chrome.
Sidenote: I noticed you made an iphone app last year. If you could make that for the android system I’d buy it immediately.
Safari on Mac / RSS Probe on Iphone.
I was surprised that the Mac % was so high, makes sense if you take into account the iphone use. No way its below the android.
RSS Probe is pretty decent for reading USSM and LL, plus Baker and Stone. Can’t seem to get Drayer’s blog to post though…
> I was surprised that the Mac % was so high, makes sense if you take into account the iphone use
Macintosh and iPhone show as different operating systems. At my work, we’re seeing >20% Mac use, compared to the ~1% iPhone. I suspect the Mac number is high because we skew somewhat to home users. I’ll have to test that theory out in the coming year (new job, new set of missing data to deal with). But just a few years ago, seeing Mac use over 10% was remarkable. We’re really starting to enter the era where operating systems no longer define capabilities for most users, which makes it tougher to be Microsoft.
When I’m out I use my Nokia N800.
That might also make it difficult to be a dedicated gamer. Having one dominant operating system was very good for PC gaming.
People STILL use internet explorer?
Chrome on XP at work.
Chrome on Vista or 7 at home.
I have attempted to browse using IE on my Dash 3G (WinMo 6.1), but the site is unreadable, so I have to settle for the twitter list.
Yea, I use Chrome. Such a simple interface.
I’m mostly Firefox(Win).
When I was an IT guy in the 70’s, the saying was “no one ever got fired for buying IBM”. I figure now there are orgs where the thought is “no one ever got fired for sticking with Microsoft.”
I use Chrome on my Vista, IE6 I think on my school computer I prefer Opera but it’s still not compatible with most sites.
I do peruse USSM on my PlayStation every once in a while. But I agree with you DMZ, where is this hate for inFamous coming from? I thought it was a fantastic game, and a good outing for Sucker Punch which made me want a new Sly game even more. Sure it’s not as good as Uncharted (one of the best I’ve ever played), but it definitely kept me entertained.
f1chunk if you have online access you can update the rosters to at least what they were at the end of the season.
I can attest to the use of the PS3. I do look at ussmariner with my PS3 when my wife and son are the computers. I also don’t have a cell so I really thought I was the only one probably doing that, its awesome to know Im not alone!
I can’t believe all the chrome users here. I dislike it to much like safari which in my opinion is a terrible browser.
The funny thing is there might be sites that get 20% mac users but as a internet on a whole that is not ever close to the case.
PC dominates the world still there is no comparison.
OS Usage Online.
There are many other sites that back it up so even though Mac has advertised they really are not gaining in the market very much considering Windows platform is still 90% of all market.
I guess if your metric for not gaining is “not breaking 10%” but they’ve made pretty dramatic gains this last year, and over the last few years. And they’re making money like crazy (even w/o the iPhone) where Lenovo & Co. are taking baths putting out Windows boxes.
Interesting absence of meaningful statistics on Win7/IE8 combo. I started using the Win 7 beta in February and transitioned to the full release in October. IE 8 is what Win 7 has pre-installed. I wonder what that combo is showing now that the Win 7 has about 7% market share.
I also check this site several times a day: from work (XP+IE7); on the road (Blackberry, Laptop with Win 7/IE 8 combo); and at home (Linux/Firefox).
I’m not sure how that all affects the statistics but I appreciate that the site loads fine in all of the above flavors. Keep up the good work.
Windows 7 self-identifies* as “Windows 6.1, build 7600″; I wonder if the Vista (6.0, build 600x)/IE8 numbers include Win7?
*The “winver” command gives this info.
Using W3Schools.com user stats to project global operating system share is almost as pointless as using my user stats to do it. I bet they still skew high on the Mac side because of the site’s target base of Web developers. I don’t know what the methodology of this report is, but it shows numbers more in line with what I’d expect, including a 1% drop in Windows over 2009 with the gains spread over a number of platforms.
I was playing with Wolfram Alpha the other day and tried inputing the ticker symbols for Microsoft and Apple. The results were surprising. There’s no way to compare Linux in there since it isn’t a company.
I’m not playing fanboy here, just observing the data.
BAM. Same question. Also where is the Xbox love? I have a PS3, but I don’t use it for web browsing. But apparently absolutely no Xbox users browse USSM?
So M’s fans follow the line of:
PS3 -> Sony -> Masaru Ibuka -> Japan
More than the line of:
Xbox -> Microsoft -> Bill Gates -> Seattle?
That is correct sodomojo95. Absolutely no one browses USSM on an Xbox because it’s impossible to do so. The Xbox doesn’t have a browser!
The PS3 generally is seen as having more multimedia features like that.
Sorry, I’m more of the database/systems developer, so forgive the simple questions:
What defines a “unique visitor” at USSM?
Doesn’t that definition rely on how the client behaves (e.g. how it handles cookies), in a standard way?
What if you’re behind a Firewall/NAT?
These visitor stats seem like the more simplistic baseball ones, like ERA or batting average
I can’t speak for the particulars of USSM, but in general you can trust clients with default setting to handle cookies the same way. A unique visitor is really a unique cookie instance, which means a browser instance. So if you have Firefox and IE on the same machine and use both, you are counted as two visitors. If you delete your cookies from your browser, then you are considered a new unique visitor on your next visit. If you go more than 30 days between visits, your cookie will expire and you will be a new unique visitor the next time you visit.
A firewall/NAT won’t matter to a cookie-based stat.
Yes, Web stats are very imprecise, but compared to the stats used for setting advertising rates on TV and print media, they are practically advanced Sabremetrics.
I assume that there is a small jump in Linux and smart phone browser use during spring training? I take my ASUS Eee to spring training and use Firefox to read USSMariner.
It would be interesting to look at longitudinal data and try to pick up seasonal trends. What am I saying? Please stick to baseball writing for now!
I guess the Wii Opera browser is under .1% what a shocker!
I must admit I’d be more interested to know where people are accessing this site from than what browser and OS they use. E.g. how large is the share of hits from large Seattle-based companies or from abroad?
Our ability to do geolocation is unfortunately pretty terrible.
Ohhhh snap! I didn’t realize the Xbox was such a piece of crap… =)
Am I the only accessing through Prodigy? One of these days I’m going to upgrade my modem to 9600bps so I can switch to AOL.
I’m not sure that is problem. Using the Wii to browse the internets “is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”
W3Schools is not the end all on the numbers but at the same time its one that shows it of several I can go through about 10 different analytics gathering tools and they will all come in about the same.
Macs are not used as much as they claim. The company I own has down over 300 sites and do analytics and everything for them and they come in around the same numbers as W3Schools. Minus one site who is dedicated to mac products.
I this also includes having jiffy lube franchises and other large clients and their numbers are always about the same level. Anyways just my experience but honestly macs are not used as much as their commercials like to make it sound. If you listen carefully to their commercials they make a claim of more people are buying macs than ever before. Well PC’s can make the same claim based on there are more users now days compared to 5 years ago.
Anyways just saying macs really own very very small amounts of market share and honestly it doesn’t take enough out of Microsoft to really matter.
The fact is I can still buy a computer with teh same specs for far less when buying a pc compared to a mac and therefor pc will always rule. Just like everyone shops at walmart cause they are cheaper.
Anyways both are great systems depending on what you like. I can do anything on my pc that anyone can do on a mac and vice versa mainly it comes down to a personal preference.
I was playing with Wolfram Alpha the other day and tried inputing the ticker symbols for Microsoft and Apple. The results were surprising. There’s no way to compare Linux in there since it isn’t a company.
You could use Red Hat, but that’s not terribly useful. If Canonical was publicly traded that would probably be the best to throw into the mix.
jjenson, like I said, I’m not being a fanboy. I use OS X, Win XP, and Ubuntu every single day. I will say that I’ve historically gotten years more use out of every piece of Mac hardware that I’ve bought than I have out of my Toshibas and Dells, and so my personal experience is that the lifetime cost turns out to be far less. That may not be a common experience though.
I do believe that user experience matters, and that as the OS becomes less important, people will be less likely to make cost the primary consideration with computers. A better comparison than a shopping experience like Wal-Mart is a major technology purchase like a car: Kia and Hyundai make cars that offer performance and reliability better than Volkswagen, but a lot of people still pay more to buy Volkswagens. Are they irrational, or is it just that values other than price influence their decision making?
Anyway…
I meant to add that I’ve been looking at user stats on sites since 1996, and I don’t think anything I see on Mac users vs. PC users is relevant to actual market share. Not all computers are used to the surf the Web, especially when it comes to Windows and Linux machines. Assume that market penetration on both of those operating systems is far higher than your Web user stats show. Same with Playstation penetration
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Yayyyy eternal PC Mac flameware forevahhhhhh!!!
SNES RULES GENESIS DROOLZZZ LOL
WEST SI-EEEEEDE!
DARK SIEEEEEDE!
PS2 WAS THE BEST CONSOLE OF ITS TIME!
It was only a matter of time before the comments headed in this direction. Having flashbacks to the “Sega does what NintenDON’T!” ad campaign. *shudder*
BLAST PROCESSING
This is the funniest and geekiest thread I have read here in awhile, and I am low tech.
As a big reader and infrequent poster, I am going to try and skew all the results by reading on my kids Wii. Please update in a month, during the next lul in news to see how I did.
P.S. This is a recession. We all need to stick together. Use IE and keep a friend employed.
So, any ideas what browser would show up from a Nokia smartphone? I ask because as of 3Q09, Nokia smartphones outsell iPhones by 129%, and Blackberries outsell iPhones by 21%.
Which implies the iPhone number is disproportional to the installed base.
I split viewing between my home system Windows/IE and the Android.
As for the Droid vs. Iphone debate…I’ve never had an Iphone but I must say I’m pretty damn happy with the Droid. Browsing is smooth sailing.
(And if you look at that same study cited, you’ll see why smartphone sales are always broken out of total cell phone sales — because they’re pathetic. Smartphones represent only 13% of all cell phones. More than 97% of the total market buys something other than an iPhone. The “phenomenal growth” of the segment is mostly because the absolute numbers have been minuscule for so long.)
Wow, cool thread! You made our holiday break… Until we read Mike G’s post at least (grin).
I’d like to at least say hello for myself and the other Sucker Punch employees (yes, the guys who made the–at least in Mike G’s opinion, “Silva-esque” game inFamous).
We’re the team behind inFamous. We are located in Bellevue. And yes we are all big USSM fans (even have tix for the event in Jan).
And no, none of us are the .1%.
> Which implies the iPhone number is disproportional to the installed base.
Having gone from a Palm Treo on which browsing was a pain I would only subject myself to if I was about to be arrested in Turkey and needed the US consulate phone number, to an iPhone on which browsing is what I do to pass the time wherever I am, I’m not surprised the ratio of Web users to overall users is much higher. (Turkey example not only hypothetical, but also insulting to my Turkish friends who hopefully don’t read this.)
For what it’s worth, globally more people have experienced the Web through a mobile phone than through a computer. Amazing things are happening with mobile phones in very poor countries, including the establishment of banking networks based on SMS texting. Hell, in ‘96 I saw a Coke machine in Helsinki that you could text. It would give you a Coke and put the charge on your phone bill. At this point the US is way behind Kenya in mobile technology adoption.
But aside from all that, TRS-80 rulz.
Wow that truly is awesome to see that Sucker Punch visits USSM! I wouldn’t have guessed that. brianf thank you for dropping in to comment! Keep up the fantastic work on your games, and keep em’ coming on the PS3 (New Sly, new Sly, new Sly, new Sly)
I believe I’m responsible for about half the Android traffic, which by the way I am totally not looking up the site at work or anything!
Oh, and the Droid is better than the iPhone. The moment I could listen to Pandora while browsing USSM at the same time on my phone, I was in love. Plus: physical keyboard that – while flat – beats the living crap out of the screen keyboard on the iPhone/iPod touch.
Yayyyy Sucker Punch! On a totally unrelated note, your jobs page is out of date. Not that I know that. Or was looking to see if you had open positions lately.
And w/r/t iPhone v Droid, one isn’t better than the other. They’re tools. It’s like arguing PC/Mac or hammer/screwdriver. If you like the physical keyboards, yup, the Droid’s your phone. But uh… I hold the entirely opposite opinion on the two phones’ relative usability for my input.
Sorry I really didn’t mean to turn this into pc vs. Mac. Like I said both are great systems just what you like. I agree brook never had good experiences with dells but hp’s have only been great.
But to change the subject didn’t someone say they are call of duty fans? Modern warfare 2 if they are and play on a 360 instead on the ps3 let me know would be fun to play with some mariners fans. Also I really need to learn more about sabermetrics and all of this.
I am a little clueless when people start using them since I stumbled on this/site just a short time ago.
Oh yeah posted from my droid
There’s a lovely “suggested reading” link up top, and some basic articles to get started in the left-hand side under “reference material”. Might be of use.
Will probably take you up on those readings. I just google seattle mariners sites or something like that and this one came up. No one cares here in Utah about mariners or baseball so just go to be here where you all care even if we don’t all agree all the time.
Oh yeah I just talked my wife to move to seattle which means as soon as I can sell my house here season tickets here I come. Love this site by the/ way.
Had a good laugh reading through the thread. I’m part of the Firefox/XP area when not on my eeePC in which it’s Firefox on linux.
I’d probably be checking on my phone too, but… you know you’re one of those “late-users” when your sitting at your friend’s home game and 4 have iPhones, 1 has a G1, and you’re still holding a RAZR…
If you don’t like physical keyboards, Derek, you could just get a MyTouch 3G.
It’s what I have, and it’s fantastic. Unfortunately Verizon has exclusivity on the 2.0 Android OS for a while, but that doesn’t really have anything I need.
What is the incentive to post a book on Google Books? The joy of spreading knowledge? I’m reading The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball on Google Books as we speak.
Ahh I see I only get the first 46 pages
I’m afraid if I ever get a smart phone, I will proceed to never get off of it. At least now, I’m not always on the phone or the computer or in front of the TV. It would just make it easier for me to troll the internets… that would be bad. I could really go for one though. AGH!!
MARINERS!
Derek – Anybody reading the site from a DSi?
I don’t see anyone in the last month.
Firefox=awesome
Chrome runs faster than any other browsers I’ve tried, and I love the superquick predictive address bar. I just hit “u” and enter for ussmariner, and “l” and enter for lookout landing. I might stop hitting “p” because a lot of idiots hang out there.
Well I post occasionally and read constantly. this is the most active thread I have seen since the first week of the m’s season last year during the game threads… Anyway I couldnt resist throwing in my two cents on this debate. DMZ I agree with the tools perspective on iphone vs. Droid (weird that the term droid is trendy now, I have been using it since the day the G1((1st droid and google phone)) was available) My girlfrien has the Iphone and there are things I like better about her phone but there are many things that the iphone cant even think about that the Droid phones are doing. GO DROIDS!!! ( could that be a franchises team name someday?) As far as Browsers I love chrome, but when you reach a site or file or something that is not compatable I swtch to Firefox, I hid IE as far away as I could but have to admit I have had to use it twice this year. And I agree with Micahjr… it is the truth
After reading this, I was just waiting to see something like:
Safari/Firefox/Chrome = Cliff Lee
IE = Silva
Well, it could be worse, it could be Bobby Ayala
CHROME and Droid User here
I wasn’t going to post, but I really wanted to know what browser Slippery Elmer was using.
Holy crap, I just got “slippery Elmer.” IDIOT, Lauren.
I use Safari on OSX. Should I switch to Chrome?
Alright, I’m not sure how to interpret this (bad tech writers, bad!). On the Chrome download page:
New! For Mac OS X 10.5 or later, Intel only
Are they saying the 10.5 or later version is new, or that the only available version of Chrome for OSX is 10.5 or later? Hmm.
Lauren:
I interpret that disclaimer to mean you must have OSX 10.5 (Leopard) or later (OSX 10.6 is Snow Leopard) as your operating system and that your hardware must be intel based (not the old PowerPC chips).
FWIW I am not a Mac guy so I could be wrong.
Good ole Firefox with xp.
Yeah, I’ve got Domestic Shorthair or whatever 10.4 is. I suppose I should get around to upgrading to a larger cat one of these days.
Whenever I view the site on my android I’m presented the mobile version and cannot seem to toggle to the regular layout despite clicking the mobile version on/off button. I generally prefer to view actual sites and not mobile sites. Is this just me, or is this a bug? Thanks!