Game Twenty-Eight Recap

Dave · May 6, 2010 at 9:58 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Boo, 11-17.

You don’t need a recap of that. Hyphen sucked, the offense sucked, the defense sucked, Snell sucked, and the weather sucked. So, why should the recap be any different? They get the recap they deserve. When they play like a major league team, they’ll get written up like one. Until then, they get this.

Comments

93 Responses to “Game Twenty-Eight Recap”

  1. MsofEnchantment on May 6th, 2010 10:01 pm

    Boo indeed.

  2. Jake N. on May 6th, 2010 10:03 pm

    This post I can get behind. I think all that talk about the Mariners needing a bat might be more true then not. No need for a high OBP team if there are no hits..

  3. Paul L on May 6th, 2010 10:05 pm

    A bat? As in ONE bat?

  4. fiftyone on May 6th, 2010 10:06 pm

    Looked this up for fun. Thought it would help depress us further.

    As a team, the 2010 Mariners are at 1 WAR. As a team. Collectively. So we’ve been running essentially a replaceable 25-man roster on the field since Opening Day.

    Joyous news indeed.

  5. henryv on May 6th, 2010 10:09 pm

    As a team, the 2010 Mariners are at 1 WAR. As a team. Collectively. So we’ve been running essentially a replaceable 25-man roster on the field since Opening Day.

    Which gives you an idea just how bad the team is, considering how well Guti and Felix have been. If you take away those two, this team is significantly worse than a replacement-level team.

  6. Jake N. on May 6th, 2010 10:10 pm

    OK! 2 bats..

  7. samregens on May 6th, 2010 10:11 pm

    A fitting tribute for this gawdawful team.

  8. fiftyone on May 6th, 2010 10:11 pm

    I should clarify. That was the offense. The pitching staff sits at 3 WAR. My bad.

  9. tubbabubba22 on May 6th, 2010 10:14 pm

    This is sad. Is there any hope you think?

  10. Jake N. on May 6th, 2010 10:15 pm

    1 War, our entire offense is 1 war. Albert had that by the second week of the season.

  11. MBK on May 6th, 2010 10:15 pm

    God awful.

    I was watching the game and my wife asked me, “Why do you keep putting yourself through this?”

  12. bhdollman on May 6th, 2010 10:17 pm

    Couldn’t agree more Dave. Simply pathetic in every facet of the game. Glad I decided against a 16 game flex plan. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  13. fiftyone on May 6th, 2010 10:19 pm

    Which gives you an idea just how bad the team is, considering how well Guti and Felix have been. If you take away those two, this team is significantly worse than a replacement-level team.

    To complete this thought, DTFT is indeed at 1.2 WAR, so the rest of the batters are below replacement level. Sweet dreams!

  14. Chris_From_Bothell on May 6th, 2010 10:19 pm

    Was wondering how long it would take you to write a boilerplate summary like that.

    I’d plan on using something similar about 73 more times or so this season.

  15. et_blankenship on May 6th, 2010 10:20 pm

    Cheer up, M’s fans! Felix Friday + 30,000 Al B. Sure Bobbleheads = Victory.

  16. fiftyone on May 6th, 2010 10:21 pm

    How many them bobbles be left Saturday morning?

  17. illdonk on May 6th, 2010 10:25 pm

    What is the number of wins given for a replacement-level team? 50? 60?

  18. fiftyone on May 6th, 2010 10:26 pm

    It’s below 60.

  19. Sports on a Schtick on May 6th, 2010 10:26 pm

    The M’s have to play .600 the rest of the way to reach 90 wins. Playoff hopes are going down the tubes.

  20. Milendriel on May 6th, 2010 10:28 pm

    illdonk, there’s some debate as to the exact number, but a replacement-level team would win around 49 games.

    Speaking of replacement-level, (or below-replacement level, actually) is there any reason not to release Snell right now?

  21. Paul L on May 6th, 2010 10:31 pm

    If we released everyone that deserved to be released we’d have to call up the Rainiers to field a team.

  22. nvn8vbryce on May 6th, 2010 10:32 pm

    I was really excited to see that the M’s were going to be in Oakland for the first time in years on my b-day (May 18th.). I don’t see – with how inept and full of suckitude the Mariners are – that the game will be worth using my $2 Pepsi can coupon on – let alone anything better than a bleacher seat, not counting the 5 hour drive from Reno.

  23. nvn8vbryce on May 6th, 2010 10:37 pm

    …we’d have to call up the Rainers
    Aquasox to field a team.

  24. Breadbaker on May 6th, 2010 10:40 pm

    As I said to the guy selling t-shirts in the Safeco Field Mariners Team Shop, tonight that t-shirt didn’t have a hyphen on it, it had a minus sign.

  25. eponymous coward on May 6th, 2010 10:46 pm

    The M’s have to play .600 the rest of the way to reach 90 wins. Playoff hopes are going down the tubes.

    Uh, which team is running away with the AL West right now? You’ve got 3.5 games separating all the teams.

  26. IwearMsHats on May 6th, 2010 10:54 pm

    I don’t regret buying a 16 game plan because I want to support what Jack Z is doing with the team. This all falls on the players not preforming to their talent level.

  27. the tourist on May 6th, 2010 11:03 pm

    I wonder how soon more changes are going to come around. Looking forward to a Saunders start tomorrow… hopefully.

  28. beef on May 6th, 2010 11:16 pm

    hey, the weather was fine. :)

  29. TripleAvery on May 6th, 2010 11:20 pm

    At least Eric Byrnes is still getting his hacks in just in case Jack and Wak decide to call him back

  30. dallin on May 6th, 2010 11:27 pm

    Surely there’s hope of regression to the mean though right?

  31. MuadDib on May 6th, 2010 11:28 pm

    Dave,

    I respect your opinion, you have an excellent knack for analysis. However, I do want to recall your post on Confirmation Bias. It gives me no pleasure to say “I told you so”.

  32. spankystout on May 6th, 2010 11:41 pm

    So you are saying I shouldn’t watch the replay?

    Here’s to Saunders second attempt!

  33. bratman on May 6th, 2010 11:44 pm

    Best thing I’ve read about the M’s since opening day…well said…I really couldn’t have more similar sentiment

  34. Brick on May 7th, 2010 12:08 am

    You sound drunk. Or lazy. Or pissed off. Did I hit the trifecta?

  35. RyanHend on May 7th, 2010 12:16 am

    I was watching the game and my girlfriend turned it to Survivor….. I didn’t protest.

  36. scott19 on May 7th, 2010 12:16 am

    The M’s have to play .600 the rest of the way to reach 90 wins. Playoff hopes are going down the tubes.

    And as late as the 4th of June in 2005, the Astros were 14 games under .500…

    I know that team had a better lineup, but still I haven’t entirely given up hope just yet.

  37. scott19 on May 7th, 2010 12:19 am

    So you are saying I shouldn’t watch the replay?

    Well, there might be a better option on another channel…like a championship poker tournament, perhaps.

  38. bratman on May 7th, 2010 12:29 am

    the worst part is that we wont even get Cliff Lee for more than this year

  39. CarpCarter on May 7th, 2010 12:37 am

    I don’t think enough can ever be said about the simple fact that once this team gives up one or two runs you really have no reason to watch the game. Three runs and you’re just wasting electricity. Sad that this three-game belly flop against the Rays was most of what I’ll see of the M’s this year here in Florida.

  40. spankystout on May 7th, 2010 1:33 am

    Is it time to swap Ichiro and Figgins in the lineup? Seriously, maybe its time for Ichiro to take a few more pitches and drive the one he can. His bat control us ungodly. He obviously has power. I’ve enjoyed watching him all these years. But I’m getting tired of our ‘singles’ hitter showing off in F@$?ing batting practice, and not in the game. He has chosen what his role as a baseball’ player is, and has never deviated. It has worked but pales in comparison to what he could contribute. He is a true 5 tool player. Until the bright lights shine upon him, and he shrinks himself to parachute singles in leftfield.

    Is there anyone who willingly diminishes their skills every single game, in any sport other than Ichiro? Its certainly a testament how amazing he is, but I’m starting to question Ichiro’s choices. Not a good sign…..

  41. zzyzx on May 7th, 2010 3:18 am

    Hey! That’s unfair!

    ….the weather was stunning!

    …as for the rest of it, yeah, what you said…

  42. mvp814 on May 7th, 2010 3:33 am

    ditto spankystout

  43. GarForever on May 7th, 2010 4:21 am

    I dunno. I’m not sure with this roster there’s much of a “mean” to regress to. Ichiro will hit better than he has, Figgins will improve (though, and I’ll say this again, the chances he’ll ever replicate what he did in 2009 are basically nil, especially given the start he’s off to). Then what? Who on this roster do we expect to get dramatically better? Kotchman’s been somewhat unlucky (.213 BABIP this year, .274 career), but surely no one expects him to turn in to the second coming of Will Clark or Don Mattingly at this point in his career. Milton Bradley returning to “2008 form”? The year he had a .388 BABIP? He’s come close to that once in his entire career, and that was seven years ago.
    As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with Dave about Griffey: he’s just not a major league hitter anymore. Lopez might regress to something better, if he cuts down his K’s; he’s got a .250 BABIP, but only a .219 AVG. But he’s hardly been a disciplined hitter at any point. And Jack Wilson, Rob Johnson/Adam Moore, etc., are what they are. The pitching may have sucked tonight, but even if it hadn’t, what difference would it have made? Hyphen could have given up 1 run over 8 innings with a bullpen arm locking down the ninth, and the M’s still lose.

    In other words, we need the kind of help that the current roster regressing to the mean will not provide. They’re just not very good at the plate, and I see little prospect for dramatic improvement. Waiting for this team to put up more than 3 runs a game as currently constructed…? Might as well join Linus Van Pelt in the Ol’ Pumpkin Patch, I think.

    Problem is, no one’s dealing this early in the season, so we should prepared to watch this for a while.

  44. ganapath on May 7th, 2010 4:45 am

    This is depressing. I am on the east coast and every day the past week I wake up hoping for a happy recap with news of a power surge. Unbelievable how inept this offense is right now. There are over a dozen players with more HRs than this entire team :(

  45. samregens on May 7th, 2010 4:59 am

    Looking at the bright side of things, at least Felix has 2 wins and we’ve won 4 of his 6 starts (he has a 3.10 ERA by the way).

    He could have been like Zack Greinke, who has a 2.27 ERA and only given up 2 runs or less in 5 of his 6 starts, only to be rewarded with a 0 wins, 3 loss record, and the team somehow managing to lose 5 of his 6 starts.

    At least things aren’t that bad. Yet.

  46. djw on May 7th, 2010 5:14 am

    And Jack Wilson, Rob Johnson/Adam Moore, etc., are what they are.

    Every projection system, based on years of minor league data, had him 100 wOBA points higher or more. I’m not sure why you think we won’t see regression there.

  47. cliffjohnson on May 7th, 2010 5:21 am

    The longer they hold onto Lee the less they’ll get for him.

  48. jefffrane on May 7th, 2010 6:19 am

    I remember a few weeks back feeling sorry for Baltimore fans. At this rate, M’s and O’s will have a similar record in no time.

  49. Rick Banjo on May 7th, 2010 6:50 am

    Is there any wisdom at all for moving Ichiro to 3rd in the batting order?

  50. Chris_From_Bothell on May 7th, 2010 6:55 am

    Is there anyone who willingly diminishes their skills every single game, in any sport other than Ichiro?

    Oh, Christ. If the bloody “Ichiro is selfish” meme has spun up again, then this season really is done.

  51. charliebrown on May 7th, 2010 7:40 am

    I was watching the game and my wife asked me, “Why do you keep putting yourself through this?”

    My wife asked me the same thing and I told her “They’re not really this bad. They’re just in a bad slump. They’ll get better”.

    She told me denial was not a river in Egypt…and I laughed.

  52. illdonk on May 7th, 2010 7:43 am

    Every projection system, based on years of minor league data, had [Adam Moore] 100 wOBA points higher or more. I’m not sure why you think we won’t see regression there.

    It’s hard to regress to something you’ve never actually done.

    Please let the team do something tonight so I can bring myself to attend a game this hopefully nice weekend…

  53. MBK on May 7th, 2010 7:47 am

    My wife asked me the same thing and I told her “They’re not really this bad. They’re just in a bad slump. They’ll get better”.

    She told me denial was not a river in Egypt…and I laughed.

    You know, it wouldn’t even be so bad if they could at least compete. This is just horrible to watch, but you know what they say about train wrecks. :(

  54. fiftyone on May 7th, 2010 8:20 am

    Ichiro trying to get on base 280 times this season in the leadoff spot is the very last thing fans should be complaining about. Seriously. You might as well say Guti isn’t hitting well enough or Fister doesn’t belong in the rotation.

  55. Keo on May 7th, 2010 8:20 am

    Guti and Ichiro are sadly the only ones on the field I come to watch these days.

    The pitching is good but it’s just depressing when you know as soon as that 1 goes up on the board we are screwed.

    I am also curious about Ichiro batting third. Maybe Figgy first and Kotchman 2nd with Guti in cleanup.

    The rest can “do their best.”

  56. G-Man on May 7th, 2010 8:34 am

    The longer they hold onto Lee the less they’ll get for him.

    Many teams won’t go after a guy unless they find they are in the playoff hunt in July. Many GM’s won’t offer their max until they see they can’t pry loos3e a comparable player from somewhere else cheaper.I wouldn’t advocate shopping Cliff until at least mid-June. However, if JZ’s phone rings with a GM on caller ID, he’d damn well better take the call.

  57. sgreen13 on May 7th, 2010 9:06 am

    I just dont know how much longer I can take this team. I’m overweight as it is, and watching them fizzle out every day on offense is enough to get the blood pressure up. Add to that the constant 1 run games and it just gets worse. Throw in Sean White in those 1 run games and I’m going to just go dig a grave to watch the games from…

    Yep I think it’s time to take a sabbatical and put myself on the restricted list from watching this team for a week or so.

  58. fixbil on May 7th, 2010 9:08 am

    So the bases are loaded with two outs. Johnson, a hero for even being in the lineup, takes ball four at least three inches inside and it’s called strike three. Imagine Lou was managing this team. Think that ump would have survived? Instead we get Mr. Polite, who blends perfectly with the typical Seattle crowd. Be nice now. I grew up watching the Tigers in Tiger Stadium and the Red Sox at Fenway Park. When I brought my style of loud commentary to the Mariner games it quickly became clear that I was too rude for the polite Seattle fans. So I don’t go to Safeco Field anymore. Not real baseball, not real fans, not real emotion. How can you let an ump take you out of an inning like that and not say something?

  59. amnizu on May 7th, 2010 9:25 am

    I gotta say, it looks to me like the M’s have been more than a little unlucky.

    They could have, should have, whatever you wanna say won 2 of the 3 against Texas, win those two and the M’s sit at 13 and 15. They were a sacrifice fly and or a botched squeeze play away from being 12 and 16 and are only 3.5 out at 11-17 so let’s not pack it in yet; being 3.5 out at the beginning of May isn’t insurmountable.

    Everyone knows the Rays are a great team playing great baseball, historic road baseball in fact and the M’s had to face both Garza and Shields. They would have been doing well to get 1 of the 3 against Tampa.

    Call me hopelessly optimistic but there not dead yet and don’t have to play Tampa every game. Even a modest return to norm will keep them in race in the AL West.

  60. fiftyone on May 7th, 2010 9:37 am

    Even a modest return to norm will keep them in race in the AL West.

    That’s why the time to panic is not this morning, but Sunday evening after the M’s, God absolutely forbid, get swept by the reeling Angels. If we win this series, all is not lost. If we go 0-9 on the homestand, I think it’s advisable to freak out. Logical, even.

  61. et_blankenship on May 7th, 2010 9:38 am

    Is there any wisdom at all for moving Ichiro to 3rd in the batting order?

    Not really. If your goal to squeeze every last drop of pulp from your lineup, the best hitters should be in the #4 and #2 spots, followed by the #1. #5 and #3 are next, and if I remember correctly, #5 edges #3 due to higher leverage RBI situations. #6, #7, #8 and #9 should be in descending order.

  62. charliebrown on May 7th, 2010 9:39 am

    amnizu, your point about the close games is correct, but that’s sort of how this team is constructed.

    This team is built around run prevention and supposedly average run production. A team like that will naturally be involved in lots of low scoring games, wich will naturally lead to lots of games decided by 1 or 2 runs.

    Games with small margins of victory are as much about luck as they are about skill. Sure, some of the plays will go the M’s way this year but some of them won’t.

    That’s one of the effects of a team constructed like this and it’s just something we’re going to have to get used to this year.

  63. Rick Banjo on May 7th, 2010 10:08 am

    Not really. If your goal to squeeze every last drop of pulp from your lineup, the best hitters should be in the #4 and #2 spots, followed by the #1. #5 and #3 are next, and if I remember correctly, #5 edges #3 due to higher leverage RBI situations. #6, #7, #8 and #9 should be in descending order.

    God, I love this blog.

    I was thinking that perhaps some of our higher BABIP guys could smack the OBP guys around the bases.

    Hell, someone on this team needs to get smacked, I’m sure.

  64. luckyscrubs on May 7th, 2010 10:13 am

    If the Mariners play dead for the Angels like they did the for the Rangers and Rays this could be the end of their season. Statistically they will still have a chance, but the powers of observation suggest this team is not good enough to make up a significant deficit. I wish I could share your optimism, Amnizu.

  65. Scottdids on May 7th, 2010 10:37 am

    For those fans wanting Wakamatsu to get fired up and clamoring for Lou-like behaviour… Try to think of a fiery manager who has won the World Series in the last 20 years. Bobby Cox is probably your best example, unless I’m not thinking of somebody.

    Most managers seem to be more even-keeled and diplomatic rather than kickers and screamers.

  66. absolutsyd on May 7th, 2010 10:52 am

    For those fans wanting Wakamatsu to get fired up and clamoring for Lou-like behaviour… Try to think of a fiery manager who has won the World Series in the last 20 years. Bobby Cox is probably your best example, unless I’m not thinking of somebody.

    Well, if I must, how about the 1990 Reds, managed by, wait for it…

    Lou Piniella.

  67. mironos on May 7th, 2010 10:55 am

    Unfortunately, I think both the “Wak needs to yell more” and the “we’ve just been unlucky” arguments are grasping at straws.

    The bottom line is the offense sucks. It doesn’t suck because they’re unlucky, or because Wak is a calm guy. It sucks because it sucks.

    (How’s that for in-depth analysis? ;-) )

  68. George_Argyros_Lives on May 7th, 2010 10:56 am

    Why did the Mariners cut payroll and not sign the 2 big bats they needed in order to hope to contend?

    Why is nothing being written of this? What is going on with the financing of the Ms? They turned an (official) “profit” last season, yet cut payroll @ $10mill??!!!! Is there some Enron/Lehman Brothers accounting going on over at Safeco?

    The current offensive disaster was predictable once the FO did NOTHING after the Lee coup.

    How the hell do they hope to turn their finances around with a non-existent offense and 15,000 spectators a game?

    I am beyond disgusted. What a dumb tragic waste of good pitching. Goodbye contending for another few years. . . .

  69. Carson on May 7th, 2010 11:08 am

    The current (final?) post count of the game thread may be telling.

  70. RyanHend on May 7th, 2010 11:10 am

    the best hitters should be in the #4 and #2 spots, followed by the #1. #5 and #3 are next, and if I remember correctly, #5 edges #3 due to higher leverage RBI situations. #6, #7, #8 and #9 should be in descending order.

    This would bed true if the Mariners were an NL team. However, the M’s play with a DH (albeit not very good ones) and so your lineup should look like this in terms of best hitters #3, #4, #1, #5, #2, then 6 as a guy that can hit for extra bases but also kinda sucks(Lopez), 9 as a second lead off type hitter(Ja. Wilson), 7 and 8 are a tie for shittiest (moore/johnson, griffey/sweeney)

  71. Islets of Ryan Langerhans on May 7th, 2010 11:36 am

    We’re actually down to 0.5 WAR on our offense. That ties us with the Orioles and puts us barely above the Pirates.

    In 2001, the team motto was “Two outs? So what?”
    A few years later, it was “Two on? So what?”
    Now we don’t even get to the “Two on” part.

  72. beef on May 7th, 2010 11:43 am

    So the bases are loaded with two outs. Johnson, a hero for even being in the lineup, takes ball four at least three inches inside and it’s called strike three.

    i was at the game and thought the same thing but checked the pitch on mlb.com. it showed it right on the line of the strike zone. granted, if it’s close you should swing but i don;t think there was anyway he was getting to that pitch (and i do truly dislike johnson as our catcher).

    Be nice now. I grew up watching the Tigers in Tiger Stadium and the Red Sox at Fenway Park. When I brought my style of loud commentary to the Mariner games it quickly became clear that I was too rude for the polite Seattle fans.

    i don;t think it is you are too loud, it probably has more to do with you being a red sox fan. :)

    i always voice my displeasure about situations during the game. i don;t really care what the crowd around me thinks. most people find it entertaining.

  73. pumacamo on May 7th, 2010 12:04 pm

    Try to think of a fiery manager who has won the World Series in the last 20 years.

    Actually, there is a difference between being a hothead manager, Sweet Lou, and being a manager that plays the part of sticking up for your players. Both Terry Francona and Joe Girardi routinely come out of the dugout in their players’ defense. Not to to scream and shout, but to atleast create a team oriented atmosphere. Last time I checked, both those guys have rings to wear when they go somewhere fancy.

    If people want to ask for statistical anaylysis to prove that arguing with umpires helps to change future calls and subsequently win games…there isn’t any. However, as a former ball player and a lifetime sports fanatic there is a lot to say for a manager that argues in your defense, even if it doesn’t help change anything.

    I realize the M’s stink for a ton of reasons and in no way am I blaming this season on Wak. I have tremendous respect for the guy. I also realize that if we were winning, his quiet demeanor would be heralded. I’m just saying I wouldn’t mind seeing someone express their frustration around here, besides on the blogs.

  74. Breadbaker on May 7th, 2010 12:17 pm

    I think the current motto is “two on? What’s that?”

  75. Xteve X on May 7th, 2010 12:19 pm

    “Try to think of a fiery manager who has won the World Series in the last 20 years.”

    Ozzie Guillen says hello -

  76. jjracoon on May 7th, 2010 12:31 pm

    MY NEW LINEUP (GRANTED I DONT HAVE MUCH TO WORK WITH)

    ICHIRO
    LOPEZ
    KOTCHMAN
    GUTIERREZ
    SAUNDERS
    WILSON
    LANGERHANS
    MOORE
    FIGGINS

    Puts Figgins in the leadoff type position after the first inning without ruffling someones feathers. Saunders and Langerhans alternate on DH/LF. Lopez goes back to pushing the ball through the right side and at least he will make contact. Let the youngins play. Moore full time.

    When we get Berkman he can take over 3rd in lineup and DH and Langerhans drops out and hole is filled by Kotchman.

  77. smb on May 7th, 2010 12:49 pm

    Great ideas in this thread…I am going to write a letter to the FO and request some emotional assistance for me during this time of personal difficulty.

  78. Liam on May 7th, 2010 1:07 pm

    On Rob Johnson’s strikeout with the bases loaded, here is the side by side of Brooks Baseball and FSN’s tracer. What is a clear ball for TV viewers is a borderline strike on the web.

  79. Diehard on May 7th, 2010 2:00 pm

    2010 Mariners offensive motto:
    2 on, what now?

  80. Diehard on May 7th, 2010 2:01 pm

    When we get Berkman he can take over 3rd in lineup and DH and Langerhans drops out and hole is filled by Kotchman.

    Isn’t Berkman a little old and starting to decline?

  81. pgreyy on May 7th, 2010 2:19 pm

    Oh, do I hate the “Seattle fans aren’t real fans” argument. That somehow those days you spent at Yankee Stadium throwing batteries at the heads of opposing outfielders(*) somehow makes you a real fan… Grrrr.

    This team was built with a very slim margin of error (concentrating on pitching and defense to prevent runs, with the hope of manufacturing just enough small ball runs to win games)…yet they bought into (and based their marketing on) the hype that there should be high expectations for the year.

    Injuries and underperformance have erased that margin entirely.

    With expectations not being met…players are pressing, and it is exacerbating the problem. Normally sure-handed fielders are making errors, pitchers are trying to be perfect, discipline at the plate is wanting…

    What is the hoped for response to a manager putting on a show and getting himself ejected? As entertaining that might be for the kind of fans who also like hockey fights, what’s the upside for the team?

    What’s the best thing that could possibly happen from such a dog and pony show? The team could be motivated to “try harder”.

    Try harder?!? I think that’s part of the problem, not the solution.

    We saw glimpses early in the season of what this team was meant to look like. Excellent pitching performances, excellent defense…winning close games. Then, we lost a couple of close games–which I think we should have all been prepared for…but it seems like the team couldn’t properly react to… The offense, then the defense, then the bullpen…all cascading in pressure-related underperformance.

    No help from the tickler/hugger pair, as they’re pressing pretty badly themselves, simply to try to justify their continued existence on the roster.

    If you think that yelling at umpires, getting hot headed and playing with fierce emotion would inspire the team to play better–isn’t that what Milton Bradley was doing? Did it help?

    As a fan, I’m disappointed…but I hadn’t bought entirely into the “Believe Big” hype, so I’m not crushed.

    And I apologize if that’s not “real” enough for some.

    (*)–anecdote purposefully chosen NOT to connect to anyone specifically, as it is the general idea of the argument that annoys me.

  82. darthbuhner on May 7th, 2010 2:29 pm

    I symbolically partook in last night’s epic fail: Sitting behind 3b near the field, texting a friend about how I was enduring the misery only for the sake of the chance to catch a foul ball. Literally as I texted (it was during the Rays’ at-bat), a high pop foul came right to me, and I scrambled with cell phone in one hand, glove in the other. The ball missed my web and bounced off my glove fingers into the stairs, for someone else to snatch up.

  83. inspiration100 on May 7th, 2010 2:29 pm

    Lets see what the M’s can do tonight. Not all hope is lost yet. If we lose the series to the Angels then my hope is lost.

  84. Marinersdude83 on May 7th, 2010 2:36 pm

    Maybe next time we play the Rays down in Florida they will let us hit off the T??? Then at least we can pretend like we can play.

  85. djw on May 7th, 2010 2:48 pm

    It’s hard to regress to something you’ve never actually done

    Projections based on minor league performances are very close to as accurate as projections based on major league data.

  86. daddydriz on May 7th, 2010 3:34 pm

    I symbolically partook in last night’s epic fail: Sitting behind 3b near the field, texting a friend about how I was enduring the misery only for the sake of the chance to catch a foul ball. Literally as I texted (it was during the Rays’ at-bat), a high pop foul came right to me, and I scrambled with cell phone in one hand, glove in the other. The ball missed my web and bounced off my glove fingers into the stairs, for someone else to snatch up.

    darthbuhner, I was sitting about 50 feet further down the baseline from you. After you Noonaned that ball, I told my buddies I couldn’t believe the guy with the glove missed that can of corn. At least I know you have the excuse of texting during an AB. Wait a minute…

  87. Harrison on May 7th, 2010 3:41 pm

    I’m going to show up to the game Sunday with a sign reading “Hits not hugs.” Look for me in section 152 row 32 above the left field scoreboard. :)

  88. jjracoon on May 7th, 2010 4:17 pm

    Diehard -

    If you notice, he has taken Juniors place which is already an upgrade plus IF his knee comes back totally he still has a couple years left. High OBP and switch hitter with good power. Only two issues would be are we willing to pay the rest of his salary for this year and does HE believe we are contenders. This team has some excellent pieces: Guti & Ichiro plus Felix, Lee, & Fister.
    Goods ones: Most of the bullpen, Lopez, Figgins & Kotchman. Who knows that wouldnt convince me!!

  89. John D. on May 7th, 2010 4:57 pm

    If the bloody “Ichiro is selfish” meme has spun up again, then this season really is done.

    Although i don’t subscribe to the Ichiro is selfishthing, I can understand why some think that way.
    There was a game last year when we had the winning run on 2nd, and coming to the plate was Ichiro, the batter most capable of driving the run in–and he bunted.

  90. Dave Spiwak on May 7th, 2010 5:09 pm

    Felix on the mound. Angels played a night game in Boston yesterday. If we don’t win tonight I’m reserving the room next to Milton at the loony bin.

  91. spankystout on May 7th, 2010 5:10 pm

    Ichiro isn’t selfish. He has bought into his leadoff role 100% and is very effective in that role. But no player, in any sport ‘shows off’ skills in practice, then leaves them in the BP cage without some criticism.

    The way I see it is the offense hasn’t been good since 01. Change is undoubtedly necessary and Ichiro shouldn’t be immune from changes. He is the best hitter on the team. Which means to maximize his abilities he will need to move
    from the leadoff spot.

  92. MBK on May 7th, 2010 5:11 pm

    Although i don’t subscribe to the Ichiro is selfishthing, I can understand why some think that way.
    There was a game last year when we had the winning run on 2nd, and coming to the plate was Ichiro, the batter most capable of driving the run in–and he bunted.

    What inning was it? 3rd, or 8th?

    How many outs? No outs? Going for a big inning?

    Was it a slower runner who stood a better chance scoring from third on a hit? (see, Junior or 6-4-3)

    How had Ichiro done against that pitcher in the past? Was he 10 of 23 against him, or 0 for 9 with 5 K’s?

    Could there have possibly been a bad throw to first after the bunt allowing the go ahead run to score? Very possible on a good bunt and hurried throw.

  93. jjracoon on May 7th, 2010 6:42 pm

    Everyone looked so bad at the plate last night I actually started thinking of how much I missed a bopper like Balentien or Clements!!!! What I want to see is a team of guys hitting around 260 with Ichiro and Guti doing what they do. Is that too much to ask!!!!!
    Last thought tonight – What is wrong with Figgins eyes??? This guy is supposed to be a contact hitter along with being patient. When he swings and makes contact it is a popup and the rest of the time strike three. Cant see how that much of a regression is possible. Get his eyes checked

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