Game Twenty-Nine Recap

Dave · May 7, 2010 at 8:21 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Boo, 11-18.

This sucks.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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172 Responses to “Game Twenty-Nine Recap”

  1. ScottBrowne on May 7th, 2010 8:22 pm

    Yep.

  2. Glen on May 7th, 2010 8:22 pm

    Earliest recap of the year!

  3. georgmi on May 7th, 2010 8:23 pm

    Hey, now. We could still come ba—

    No, I can’t even say it. And it wouldn’t have been funny if I had.

  4. David* on May 7th, 2010 8:23 pm

    Indeed. Good night!

  5. Benne on May 7th, 2010 8:24 pm

    Aaaaaannnndd off I go to drink. Thanks for ruining my liver, M’s!

  6. flashbeak on May 7th, 2010 8:25 pm

    The Seattle Mariners are promoting alcoholism.

  7. Gunga on May 7th, 2010 8:25 pm

    Thanks Dave. Just when I thought I’d never laugh again. Seeing the recap up already elicited a chuckle that I didn’t know I had in me.

  8. Carson on May 7th, 2010 8:25 pm

    Really. What the hell do we even say?

    I can’t even muster up a joke. This is just… beyond laughable and at unreal. I honestly cannot believe what I’m seeing.

  9. MarinerFanMike03 on May 7th, 2010 8:25 pm

    Not sure which is worse, being a Mariner fan or being a Seahawk fan?

  10. matthew on May 7th, 2010 8:26 pm

    Thanks for ruining my liver, M’s!

    I think I’ve had more doubles this week than the Mariners :(

  11. Carson on May 7th, 2010 8:28 pm

    Not sure which is worse, being a Mariner fan or being a Seahawk fan?

    Being a 49ers fan is the only thing that keeps any sanity in my sports life. They’ve had a rough decade, but the 80′s and 90′s were pretty awesome.

    I moved here from California in 1995. As you can guess, that was good timing to become an M’s fan.

  12. Tweedy428 on May 7th, 2010 8:29 pm

    This is insane, the only thing that makes me feel better is that I’m not actually on the mariners. Maybe if the Mariners keep playing like this they can join Eric Byrnes in his softball league. Maybe there MAYBE the M’s could get some runs.

  13. flashbeak on May 7th, 2010 8:29 pm

    Not sure which is worse, being a Mariner fan or being a Seahawk fan?

    I’m a Raiders fan. Don’t even try to complain to me.

  14. illdonk on May 7th, 2010 8:31 pm

    Football is only once a week. This is happening every single day.

  15. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 8:31 pm

    Blowers is eating during play-by-play.

    Our color guy is eating during the game.

  16. SonOfZavaras on May 7th, 2010 8:34 pm

    This is beyond the pale of what is normally regarded as ‘pathetic’.

    Somewhere out there, Annie Savoy is watching this game and going “Hang on, Millie. Here we go again.”

  17. Marinersdude83 on May 7th, 2010 8:34 pm

    Well I know it looks really bad now but hey I’m sure the M’s will come up with some way to get even worse. Just belive big an it will happen.

  18. G-Man on May 7th, 2010 8:35 pm

    Now that we’ve proven that neither Cliff Evening nor Felix Day can get us a W, it’s time – we need a real DH.

  19. illdonk on May 7th, 2010 8:37 pm

    I don’t even care about the DH any more. It’s an almost-complete full-roster meltdown. We might as well resign Junior for another season for extra Bobblehead possibilities.

  20. blackc5 on May 7th, 2010 8:38 pm

    In other news, liquor and beer sales are up 37.4% in the Seattle metro area since April 23rd.

  21. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 8:40 pm

    Friday Night Lights premieres tonight…

  22. Benne on May 7th, 2010 8:42 pm

    I’m a Raiders fan. Don’t even try to complain to me.

    At least you guys finally got rid of JaFatass. Baby steps?

  23. flashbeak on May 7th, 2010 8:43 pm

    At least you guys finally got rid of JaFatass. Baby steps?

    Totally true. I’m pretty positive about Jason Campbell also.

  24. MBK on May 7th, 2010 8:43 pm

    Don’t think of this so negatively guys. After all, we are taking the 7 game losing streak off the backs of the Halos.

  25. fiftyone on May 7th, 2010 8:43 pm

    A couple more losses and we can graduate to unbridled panic. Until then, this brand of “baseball” is either disturbingly demoralizing or darkly comical.

  26. Kid_A on May 7th, 2010 8:44 pm

    I guess even “fun” clubhouses can lose 7 games in a row.

  27. matthew on May 7th, 2010 8:44 pm

    No wonder Milton Bradley is so depressed.

  28. Glen on May 7th, 2010 8:44 pm

    Now that we’ve proven that neither Cliff Evening nor Felix Day can get us a W, it’s time – we need a real DH

    .

    I’m personally partial to Cliffmas.

  29. pgreyy on May 7th, 2010 8:46 pm

    Lacking anything better, I chalk this all up to DMZ’s semi-retirement from USSM.

    What did he know then that we should know now???

  30. Holmes on May 7th, 2010 8:47 pm

    LOL game recap up in the 5th!

  31. matthew on May 7th, 2010 8:48 pm

    LOL game recap up in the 5th!

    It was actually up in the 4th — Dave probably wrote it after the end of the 3rd…

  32. Marinersdude83 on May 7th, 2010 8:49 pm

    I’m getting scared to wear my Mariners sweatshirt in public. I might need to join Milton soon!

  33. matthew on May 7th, 2010 8:49 pm

    How many times have we been no hit through 5 innings this year?

  34. illdonk on May 7th, 2010 8:50 pm

    He should probably just write the next week’s recaps now to save time, like newspapers do with the obituaries of elderly famous people.

  35. ABP52380 on May 7th, 2010 8:52 pm

    Is it too early to be thinking about draft picks? This is soooooooooooo bad.

  36. Hud67 on May 7th, 2010 8:53 pm

    This is Dave’s fault. He wrote that there was nothing interesting to write because the M’s management was doing everything right. We need to sacrifice more than a chicken to end this streak. Maybe a small third world country will do it.

  37. nodiggity on May 7th, 2010 8:53 pm

    Think that it cannot get any worse? Jeff Weaver is throwing a no-hitter–now that would really cap things off.

  38. Hud67 on May 7th, 2010 8:57 pm

    I wonder if the guys in AAA are saying, “please don’t send me to the big club”.

  39. matthew on May 7th, 2010 8:57 pm

    He should probably just write the next week’s recaps now to save time, like newspapers do with the obituaries of elderly famous people.

    Made me think of this :D

  40. blackc5 on May 7th, 2010 8:57 pm

    In other news, the dollar store is now the official apparel retailer for the Seattle Mariners.

  41. mironos on May 7th, 2010 8:58 pm

    …like newspapers do with the obituaries…

    An apt metaphor if ever there was one.

  42. Hud67 on May 7th, 2010 8:59 pm

    Looking at the faces in the M’s dugout they need to join Milton for some family therapy.

  43. dallin on May 7th, 2010 9:00 pm

    Think that it cannot get any worse? Jeff Weaver is throwing a no-hitter–now that would really cap things off.

    Hey, Jamie Moyer threw a complete-game 2 hitter. Maybe we could trade for him.

  44. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:01 pm

    Ichiro and Guti are the only ones with a batting average above .216

  45. Hud67 on May 7th, 2010 9:01 pm

    No wonder Cliff Lee was so pissed when he got traded. From first to worst.

  46. UofMichgoMs on May 7th, 2010 9:01 pm

    Remember those 90′s M’s teams that even when they lost were fun to watch? I miss having fun watching this team.

  47. MaliceCrew on May 7th, 2010 9:02 pm

    Rendon or Harper anyone?

  48. ppl on May 7th, 2010 9:03 pm

    In April, I could easily be optimistic so early on when we were usually losing by a couple runs. Especially when we went all of April getting blown out by more than five runs just once.

    But then came May, still early: but the defense issues were more than a litte disturbing and we sure can’t win 80 games if that fails. But they were isolated incidents, everybody here knows this team is better than that.

    Getting swept by Tampa, well, they are good, maybe this years champions. So even with the blow out last night, no need to panic, it is the first week of May, right?

    But Now, LAA may be better than they have been playing. But losing this bad, with Felix on the mound! No way I can spin that one in a positive way.

    No, the negative outlook crowd rules right now.

    But as for me I will keep hanging on until the bitter end!

    Maybe we can comeback and win the series!!!!!

    Maybe is the best I can do right now.

  49. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:05 pm

    Way to take those pitches in the heart of the strike zone, Rob.

    You fucking worthless moron.

  50. JMHawkins on May 7th, 2010 9:06 pm

    The Seattle Mariners are promoting alcoholism.

    Why, with the renewed Metro service, you could even say they were driving you to drink.

  51. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:06 pm

    The whole team should be placed on the restricted list.

  52. georgmi on May 7th, 2010 9:12 pm

    I propose a new Mariners drinking game.

    If a Mariner gets a hit, drink a beer. If they score a run, buy a round for all twelve people at Safeco.

    Before too long, we’ll put Schick Shadel out of business, and Pat O’Day out of work.

  53. kenshabby on May 7th, 2010 9:13 pm

    Fun fact o’ the night #1
    M’s are tied with the Astros for last place in MLB in team slugging percentage at .321. Next worst team is Atlanta at .351.

  54. juneau_fan on May 7th, 2010 9:14 pm

    Ichiro and Guti are the only ones with a batting average above .216

    That’s why I was ‘er?’ earlier for someone bitching about Ichiro swinging at the first pitch. He actually makes contact sometimes. Let him swing.

    He’s not the problem. Look at the rest of the crew here.

  55. scottg02 on May 7th, 2010 9:14 pm

    This Sucks. It fucking sucks. I hate it. I wish I never became a Mariners fan. And I’m also a Cubs fan. I must hate myself

  56. Glen on May 7th, 2010 9:15 pm

    Why is Wak putting League in during a blowout? Wak infuriates me.

  57. kenshabby on May 7th, 2010 9:19 pm

    Fun fact o’ the night #2
    The M’s are dead last in MLB in HRs with 10. Paul Konerko has hit 12 HRs.

  58. georgmi on May 7th, 2010 9:20 pm

    “How are these facts fun?” georgmi whined.

  59. true_slicky on May 7th, 2010 9:21 pm

    C’mon Bud Selig, have a heart.

    Contract the Mariners and put us all out of our misery.

    How soon before the unthinkable begins to be thought…. ‘What package could we get for Ichiro? Guti? Felix?’

  60. kenshabby on May 7th, 2010 9:23 pm

    Fun for masochists. Which includes anyone who has been an M’s fan for more than 2 weeks.

  61. payday0023 on May 7th, 2010 9:23 pm

    Ugh.

  62. davepaisley on May 7th, 2010 9:24 pm

    WE 0% by the 5th inning…

    Of course, that may be because they don’t show more than a couple of decimal places. Maybe there’s still a 0.0001% chance we come back.

  63. Gomez on May 7th, 2010 9:24 pm

    My only curiosity with this team at this point is what gives next.

  64. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:24 pm

    I CANNOT BELIEVE HE CALLED THAT STRIKE ON GUTI.

    After what we watched in the first.

  65. davepaisley on May 7th, 2010 9:25 pm

    Contract the Mariners and put us all out of our misery.

    How attractive is Tampa Bay looking now?

  66. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:26 pm

    OH SWEET IRONY

  67. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:27 pm

    And then Lopez…

  68. true_slicky on May 7th, 2010 9:27 pm

    Griffey breaks up the non-no bit? Irony…

  69. georgmi on May 7th, 2010 9:28 pm

    This beer is all salty.

  70. fargomsfan on May 7th, 2010 9:29 pm

    Can Griffey not do anything right?

  71. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:30 pm
  72. true_slicky on May 7th, 2010 9:31 pm

    Someone mentioned the 90s Mariners. Thsoe were the “Refuse to Lose” boys.

    This team’s lost even before it’s stepped on the field.

  73. Mekias on May 7th, 2010 9:32 pm

    This is sad. I flew 3000 miles and spent about $1000 to see these last 4 games in person. After the 4 error game, I didn’t think things could get worse. But I do believe they have gotten worse every game. This might very well be the last time I ever see any of these guys in person again but I couldn’t bear to stay at the ballpark any longer.

    Remind me to never come to Seattle again. What a depressing vacation.

  74. pdome01 on May 7th, 2010 9:35 pm

    This is the worst team in baseball with the best talent:)

  75. true_slicky on May 7th, 2010 9:37 pm

    Seriously, is Felix injured? I’m following online, but after last start and giving up three homers in four batters, maybe a spell on the DL may be in store?

  76. mironos on May 7th, 2010 9:38 pm

    You know, if we could just combine all the runs the M’s have scored in their last 6 games, and apply them all to this game, we’d totally be winning.

    By 1.

  77. DAMellen on May 7th, 2010 9:39 pm

    This is the worst I’ve ever felt about my fandom. It’s one thing to lose but how can Felix get crushed like that? How can that happen? Is he broken? Is he hurt? Is he just not good anymore? I cheer for him to put up a 3/1 K/BB and he doesn’t even have a 2-1. I can’t take this. I wish I could cut off the piece of me that loves baseball and throw it away. This just hurts too much.

  78. true_slicky on May 7th, 2010 9:43 pm

    Are there other things to do in the Northwest during the summer?

    Guess we get to find out!

  79. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:45 pm

    This is the worst I’ve ever felt about my fandom

    You must be young.

  80. Holmes on May 7th, 2010 9:47 pm

    Strikezone for the M’s at the plate has been really really bad since Milton’s blowup. Umpire’s conspiring against the M’s? I think so.

    Lee was getting squeezed, Hyphen was getting squeezed (and that game the umpire was giving everything to Garza) and tonight Felix was getting squeezed as usual.

  81. true_slicky on May 7th, 2010 9:50 pm

    I knew we’d find a way t oget runners on 2nd and 3rd and not score!

  82. fiftyone on May 7th, 2010 9:50 pm

    I’ve only been following uss mariner for three years. Is this the first time a game thread has died in the fifth inning?

  83. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 9:50 pm

    What does Rob Johnson bring to the team?

    He’s Mike Sweeney without the hugs.

  84. naviomelo on May 7th, 2010 9:51 pm

    I’ve only been following uss mariner for three years. Is this the first time a game thread has died in the fifth inning?

    In 2008, we could go innings without a comment.

  85. jryoung222 on May 7th, 2010 9:51 pm

    And Figgins drops under .200!

  86. Glen on May 7th, 2010 9:52 pm

    This team could lose 100 games with Felix and Lee! That is how bad this offense is.

  87. scottg02 on May 7th, 2010 9:55 pm

    anyone else notice when our starters throw amazing out bullpen, even the best of our bullpen blows it and when our starters suck, our bullpen, even the worst pitchers in it pitch shutout ball?

  88. davepaisley on May 7th, 2010 9:55 pm

    Bleah…

  89. nvn8vbryce on May 7th, 2010 9:57 pm

    First time the game recap post has been up in the fifth game was so out of hand that we had a recap in the fifth– conversation moved over there.

    This game makes me want to save my money and not go to Oakland in a week…

  90. Glen on May 7th, 2010 9:58 pm

    Z, it is time to blow it up.

  91. payday0023 on May 7th, 2010 10:00 pm

    EEEEEEEEEEFFFING Rob Johnson. A catcher who CAN’T CATCH! He’s like a toaster that doesn’t toast.

  92. Paul L on May 7th, 2010 10:00 pm

    Just saw Jr’s expression after GIDP to end the game.

    He knows.

  93. Glen on May 7th, 2010 10:01 pm

    Back to Back shutouts. Despicable.

  94. Rck74 on May 7th, 2010 10:07 pm

    At least we have the great Ichiro. Infield hits and bloopers are so devastating to the opponents. $18 million a year? He’s worth $25 million!!

  95. Bugeater on May 7th, 2010 10:09 pm

    I thought I could handle this, but I just can’t. I’m done with this train wreck of a team until they do something to fix it! From now on I’ll be watching anything else but this team because it’s torture. I’m officially embarrassed to be a Mariner fan.

  96. Breadbaker on May 7th, 2010 10:09 pm

    This one was entirely on management. Felix should not have made this start. He’s the franchise; you don’t delay him a day, he skips a start.

  97. Leroy Stanton on May 7th, 2010 10:13 pm

    Well said, Dave.

  98. mikeym on May 7th, 2010 10:16 pm

    Well, I understand Dave posting the recap early. He is trying to form a coalition to lead the British government, after all.

  99. Rick Banjo on May 7th, 2010 10:19 pm

    Just watching the 1st inning on television was enough to completely piss me off. Felix got squeezed by an inconsistent jackassed monkey of an umpire, and our manager glued his ass to the bench. Wak, you’re not catching anymore, and you have absolutely nothing to gain by not standing up for your pitching staff.

    Did Earl Weaver win a world series? How about Billy Martin?

    Can your pretentious belief system and raise your fucking voice, doucherocket.

  100. Willmore2000 on May 7th, 2010 10:22 pm

    Summer != Vacation

    Fucking pathetic.

  101. MarinerFanMike03 on May 7th, 2010 10:23 pm

    I blame the loss on the oil spill in the gulf. Its all BP’s fault, sue them!

  102. scott19 on May 7th, 2010 10:29 pm

    So incredibly pissed off at ALL my so-called “hometown” teams right now it’s not even freaking funny!!! >:(

    Oh, well…maybe the Rat City Roller Girls will actually win a championship in their “game” — at this point, that’s about the best we have to freaking hope for (and p.s., no slam to Team RCRG…I’d like to see some of the sistahs in the freaking lineup — since maybe they’d even be able to manage some freaking hits off Jared Freaking Spiccoli!!! >:( )

  103. DAMellen on May 7th, 2010 10:34 pm

    You must be young.

    I’m 27. I’ve been pretty die hard since about 96, which I think puts me as a pretty long time fan. I guess this is a weird moment to pick as the worst of my fandom, but I was finally starting to really trust that Felix had figured it out when all of a sudden his ERA shoots over 4 (I know it’s unimportant, but it still drives me crazy) and his K/BB plummets below 2 on a night where he gave up 25% groundballs to a crappy line up on a seven game losing streak. Add that to the fact that I really thought my days of constantly doubting the ball club were behind me before the issues with the line up, the dh, and the bench rattled me and the confusing handling of the Bradley situation shocked me. Add both of those to the most frustrating streak in recent memory and the fact that this year I finally convinced several of my non-baseball fan friends to start watching (can’t imagine they’re having much fun with it thus far).

    I know we can still get going, but right now it’s hard to hang onto that (and even harder to convince my friends who I talked into watching to hang onto that). In the past, I’ve been pretty good at predicting how well the Mariners would do and if they do end up sucking this year, it’ll be the most disappointed I’ve been since I started caring.

    And I guess seeing my favorite player who I love more than any other player I’ve ever watched get rocked feels like all that coming to a head, but whatever. Tony Rendon in ’11!

  104. DizzleChizzle on May 7th, 2010 10:36 pm

    Someone call Oklahoma City and see if they’re interested in buying this shitty team.

  105. illdonk on May 7th, 2010 10:37 pm

    It is amusing to read the comments from those who think the problems are Ichiro and the manager not screaming enough.

  106. nvn8vbryce on May 7th, 2010 10:40 pm

    Someone call Oklahoma City Kansas City and/or Chicago and see if they’re interested in buying this shitty team.

    Drayton Moore seems to like purchasing contracts of horrid Mariners, and Chicago did get the chef off our back, didn’t they? Oh yeah. Crap.

  107. Thievery on May 7th, 2010 10:40 pm

    We must be very careful to not get too far down the road of results-based analysis. The players that we knew needed to be replaced before the season even began (Griffey and Sweeney) still need to be replaced, but we can’t be ready to throw up our hands just because almost every other key player is underperforming. If the team underachieves, it underachieves, but there’s very little that can or should be done at this point other than wait it out for key personnel to being their ascent toward mean production…

  108. nvn8vbryce on May 7th, 2010 10:41 pm

    Well said, illdonk. Ichiro is the least of our concerns right now, even though I would like to see him hitting jacks (no pun intended, Mr. Z) instead of singles.

  109. Liam on May 7th, 2010 10:42 pm

    Fall too far and we might be one of those teams we were waiting for to pack it in.

  110. absolutsyd on May 7th, 2010 10:44 pm

    I don’t think Wak yelling at an ump would change much, but at least I would have something to fucking cheer about.

  111. don52656 on May 7th, 2010 10:45 pm

    This really is beyond amazing, and it looks to me like the team totally expects to lose. I am reminded of the scene from “The Natural”, where they have the team psychologist droning “losing is a disease.” Well, with this team, it really has become a disease, and just about everyone on the team has it.

    At this level, everyone has talent, and sometimes it’s the space between the ears that separates winning from losing. Right now, the M’s are losing the battle between the ears, and losing it so badly that talent might as well not exist.

    Well, that’s certainly a test of leadership, and we’ll see what Wakamatsu and JackZ can do. Something had better work, and soon, or I fear this season is going to be a total catastrophe and we’ll be looking at another 2-3 years of rebuilding.

  112. nvn8vbryce on May 7th, 2010 10:48 pm

    I don’t think Wak yelling at an ump would change much, but at least I would have something to fucking cheer about.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing this happen again, maybe not the same player, though.

  113. John W. on May 7th, 2010 10:49 pm

    How are we not the worst team in baseball? The Orioles and Astros can’t be that bad right? It’s got to be because of our schedule, if we didn’t face a powderpuff 1st month, we’d probably be 5-24.

    You know what the scary part is? When I’m really honest with myself, I’m starting to question the logic that this teams built upon. And that just makes me angry.

    All were doing right now is proving all of those assholes “right” that were screaming about more “power” and offense.

    I want to believe. I want to believe. I want to believe.

  114. illdonk on May 7th, 2010 10:54 pm

    Admittedly, if Wak had just let Bradley go out and punch that ump, things might be totally different right now.

  115. MeanMachine on May 7th, 2010 10:58 pm

    This is so bad it’s allmost comical now. I’m actually laughing at most of these posts. We all got sucked into the hype machine this offseason and now were getting our reward. I feel really bad for the guy who spent his vacation here watching these last 4 games. Atleast im not that poor guy. And i have been drinking and smoking pot heavily lately so that’s helpfull also. I guess were going to be in competition with Houston for the first pick. Is there another Strasburg this year?

  116. IwearMsHats on May 7th, 2010 10:59 pm

    The struggles of this team have way less to do with the ideology in which this team has been built around and way more to do with the way individual players are preforming (or not preforming) up to their average talent level. Losing sucks, but don’t blame the theory. After all, it has not even been half of a season.

  117. scott19 on May 7th, 2010 11:00 pm

    Mariners Baseball: Deceive Big!!!

  118. fermorules on May 7th, 2010 11:01 pm

    On a positive note, 50 percent of the Griffey bobblehead nights are in the books.

  119. Breadbaker on May 7th, 2010 11:05 pm

    The team seems to be sleepwalking through games. Early in the game, nowhere near out of reach, and Josh Wilson strikes out but the catcher drops the third strike. A team with their player’s head in the game, they are watching, listening for this and heading to first base on the off chance: who knows where the ball might go and maybe the catcher throws it away. The Rays, they were a team that would be doing that. The Mariners, not so much.

    Yeah, that wasn’t going to win the game, but if you stop doing stuff like that, you’re the Kansas City Royals and this team is not paid like the Royals, not marketed like the Royals and doesn’t have the expectations of the Royals.

    I’m not picking on Josh Wilson here, that’s just an example that fits in with a lot of dropped balls, missed signs and other concentration errors.

  120. scott19 on May 7th, 2010 11:05 pm

    Honestly, can we can the g-d bobbleheads at this point and just focus on winning some freaking games already??!!

    If this keeps up, the only night of the week I’m gonna be looking forward to the rest of the summer is Monday — when Australian footie is on!

  121. Mini G on May 7th, 2010 11:09 pm

    Am I becoming morbid…or is wishing my childhood baseball hero would pull a hammy(Griffey) too much. Just so he can’t roll another ground ball to 2nd. I am constantly changing the channel and going back hoping to see some sort of life….Then I see it, Ichiro catches a fly ball….a catcher is trying to tag from 3rd, and he has him out by approx 5ft…but wait….Rob(I can call a game that’s why I’m here) can’t pick it…That was it for me until I saw on espn.com weaver was tossing a no=no. THis is going to be a rough summer!

  122. TomTuttle on May 7th, 2010 11:21 pm

    As much as I hate to say this, Leno’s show at 10 pm almost sounds more watchable than this crap we’ve been subjected to.

    And the worst part about this compared to 2008 is that Cliff Lee was a huge upgrade for a team built around pitching and defense and we have competent management (not Armstrong and Lincoln) to boot.

    I still think this team has a good chance to be really good in 2011 and beyond, but this offense needs to be blown up first.

    Sucks to see this though after being convinced to “Believe Big”, special shout out to Chucky and Angie Mentink’s friends at FSN for that one.

    Guess I better take a gander at the Sounders schedule. . .

  123. Diehard on May 7th, 2010 11:24 pm

    What the hell has happened to this season? Has everyone on the team decided to roll over via 2008 and just give up? So pathetic. I am embarrassed for this team and every year they manage to have huge losing streak; either an 0-9 homestand or roadtrip that ruins any hopes for contention. Glad they are getting it out of the way so early this year. This lineup is a mess, Felix looks mortal, and the offense gives our very good starting rotation zero chance of winning unless they throw a no hitter, which wouldn’t guarantee them a win at this point.

  124. CarpCarter on May 7th, 2010 11:29 pm

    Don’t worry guys, Griffey and Sweeney will hug us out of this rut!

    What an absurd gamble, banking on team chemistry to pick up the slack for an offense that cannot score a single run. One single run.

    Jack Z was a fool for putting this roster together in the first place.

  125. Rick Banjo on May 7th, 2010 11:38 pm

    It is amusing to read the comments from those who think the problems are Ichiro and the manager not screaming enough.

    Ichiro is fine. Really fine, and Morales should have paid for running on his arm. That “tag” was the closest I’ve come to being thrown out of a public place for shouting obscenities.

    Here’s the reason Wak should speak up: if he doesn’t, Felix or whomever else will. And that’s bad. It has less to do with letting off steam as a manager and more to do with preventing your players from blasting off due to equal parts frustration and alienation. I don’t think Wak should ‘roid up and go apeshit whenever an umpire (predictably) gets a call wrong, but if he’s going to be this quiet all of the time, there had better be some severe, incomprehensible baseball management genius radiating from our dugout.

    Have you seen that happening? I haven’t. I’ve been a Mariners fan since the day I learned what baseball was, and I’ve seen M’s managers that could adapt to what their team needed (Lefebvre, Piniella), and those who really couldn’t (Plummer comes to mind foremost). I’ve been watching Wak since he was playing at Cheney Stadium, and I know he’s an adaptable player, but I see a strange refusal to engage the game the way it needs to be engaged in order to win. That’s not to say that he’s incapable, but that his style–his belief system–needs to be fueled by a certain tangible amount of passion. Players see that, and some will choose to emulate it.

    I always think of Edgar in Boston when Ted Barrett’s strike zone was the shape of a pocked, fat ass. When Barrett called him out on a third strike, the most soft-spoken Mariner outside Alvin Davis that I’ve ever seen nearly ate Barrett’s hat, shit it out, and fed it to him on the end of a sharp fork. Piniella graciously walked out and poured a gallon of gas on Barrett as well, because if Edgar is pissed, you have to go on the credit of his eye, ump be damned. Otherwise you may as well be a stump. Hell, when Ichiro got tossed, look at the replay, and look where he drew his line. Sure, drawing a line is rude, but so is getting the call egregiously wrong, and Wak has to see that for what it is.

    Sigh.

    That’s just the manager, who is at the bottom of the list of reasons we’re having problems right now.

  126. scott19 on May 7th, 2010 11:49 pm

    I always think of Edgar in Boston

    I wish Edgar, bless his heart, was in the freaking lineup right now…can we possibly talk him out of retirement?

  127. wtnuke on May 8th, 2010 12:05 am

    I love Felix with all my heart, and we need to trade him. All of our top value is wrapped up in this one player that could net us a fucking air craft carrier full of talented players. This joke-squad they’re running out every night isn’t cutting it, and I think Felix deserves a team that cares about scoring runs. And we, the fans, deserve some baseball players.

  128. DAMellen on May 8th, 2010 12:08 am

    Is there another Strasburg this year?

    Nobody quite that level, but Tony Rendon’s getting a lot of hype as 2011′s number one recruit and being favorably compared to Evan Longoria and Ryan Zimmerman. I suggest calling him T-Rend or possibly T-Rendasaurus.

  129. ppl on May 8th, 2010 12:11 am

    Fister is going tommorow.

    One thing to be optimistic about.
    No reason to think that tonight was anything other than an aberration for Felix.

    And that being the case as long as Fister pitches like he has pitched, we got three “Stoppers”
    now it is time for some “Stopping.”

    And maybe some stomping.
    I am all for Fister finally getting that no-hitter. Especially after tonight’s barrage.
    And the M’s teeing off on Saunders.
    And how about our Michael Saunders leading the way on that. Get that first big league home run.
    And the M’s win big! That will inject some life into this fanbase.

  130. scott19 on May 8th, 2010 12:12 am

    I love Felix with all my heart, and we need to trade him. All of our top value is wrapped up in this one player that could net us a fucking air craft carrier full of talented players. This joke-squad they’re running out every night isn’t cutting it, and I think Felix deserves a team that cares about scoring runs. And we, the fans, deserve some baseball players.

    Then, when the M’s *might* finally be scoring runs but still losing games by scores of like 12-9, we’d all be sitting around here bitching about how “we shouldn’t have traded Felix, ’cause we don’t have any pitching anymore!”

  131. wtnuke on May 8th, 2010 12:17 am

    We have almost no usable talent at the AAA level, and most of our major league possibilities are just pipe-dreams right now. You can put Felix Hernandez out there every night for all I care, but you’re not going to get people excited about baseball without some talent. Sadly, there’s not another player on this roster who I think we could or should trade.

  132. spankystout on May 8th, 2010 12:21 am

    My only solace is with every loss, the winds of change gather momemtum…..I mean at least the Bad News Bears were funny. This is a pathetic team effort. Does the team need a ‘synergy’ retreat?

  133. jephdood on May 8th, 2010 12:21 am

    I have tickets for Sunday’s game. Anybody want to trade me a six-pack for ‘em? Domestic cans even. Don’t care. I need something to drink while I watch these fools on TV.

  134. Sidi on May 8th, 2010 12:25 am

    Does the team need a ’synergy’ retreat?

    The “fall back and let your teammate catch you” thing won’t be nearly as funny now that a certain left fielder is gone…

  135. bookbook on May 8th, 2010 12:40 am

    It’s a long season. Even good teams have stretches that frustrate.

    The M’s management has always made some headscratcher moves at the margins along with a large number of good ones. This is Griff-Sweeney’s 2nd year clogging DH and bench slots after all, and the bullpen – bench usage was never optimal, and the catching amalgams have always suffered from imperfect managerial judgement.

    Would a little investment in offense have gone a long way? Maybe. Are the M’s a fringe contender rather than a division winning favorite? Maybe. Wait until the slump is over to pass judgement.

  136. terry on May 8th, 2010 12:59 am

    The winds of change?

    Who’s head are we supposed to be calling for?

  137. LongDistance on May 8th, 2010 1:05 am

    Bringing Griffey back just to sell tickets… was definitely very, very good baseball business. But not good baseball. I hated it. Yet… baseball is a business, after all. And thus we have the main problem for them right now: because on a strictly business perspective, even if it’s less profitable for the owners to go deep into the post-season… it is indeed profitable to make fans THINK the team might at least make it. And the current situation shows clearly that we’ve got another lost-in-the-wilderness year here. On the other hand, fans in Seattle do come out and watch anyway. But nothing like they would if the team was a truly strong one. Is it a slump? Hmmmm…. I don’t think their performance lately has been that of a slumping team. I can’t help but get the impression there are some fundamental problems (not tweaking level problems) all across the board. Whether they decide to address those problems sooner rather than later, is the question. And… in fact… is it even possible to do so with only a few moves??? Ouch.

  138. scott19 on May 8th, 2010 1:06 am

    I have tickets for Sunday’s game. Anybody want to trade me a six-pack for ‘em? Domestic cans even. Don’t care. I need something to drink while I watch these fools on TV.

    Man, I don’t know if these guys are even worth a six of warm, flat Keystone Light at this point.

  139. greentunic on May 8th, 2010 1:28 am

    I feel like if we somehow traded for Albert Flippin Pujols, he would come here at hit .290 with 24 home runs. No one can do anything. Anything! Most AAA catchers in baseball will hit better than .160 or whatever it is. The statistical probability of these batting averages with these players is phenominal, which makes me think its not simple chance or statistics. There is a real problem we cant afford to solve two weeks down the road.

  140. spankystout on May 8th, 2010 1:30 am

    TERRY
    Change doesn’t exactly mean ‘heads will roll.’……….but if you are biblical-style looking for a head to hunt. You can start with Sweeney, Griffey, and Moore.

  141. CarpCarter on May 8th, 2010 2:09 am

    Would a little investment in offense have gone a long way? Maybe. Are the M’s a fringe contender rather than a division winning favorite? Maybe. Wait until the slump is over to pass judgement.

    A “slump”? That’s generous. This is rapidly approaching “lost season” territory, don’t kid yourself otherwise.

  142. Milendriel on May 8th, 2010 2:10 am

    Who’s the hitting coach? I can’t imagine he has much rope left at all.

  143. flutieflakes on May 8th, 2010 2:22 am

    This sucks, but I still believe in The System. Process over product, people…

  144. GarForever on May 8th, 2010 2:36 am

    OK, it’s been a few hours, so I think I might be calm enough to offer a thoughtful, in-depth analysis:

    UN-F***ING-WATCHABLE.

    I know Wak has a belief system. I know this team is not playing to its projected talent level. I know there are five games this season we could have just as easily won as lost (though that alone gives me pause: last year’s team was the beneficiary of a lot of good luck in 1-run games, this year, not so much).

    While I was glad to see Byrnes go, because he was unproductive, and see Langerhans back up, because he’s actually useful, let’s face it: Byrnes was about as much of a sacrificial lamb as there could be. The team had nothing invested in him, emotionally or financially.

    So, Wak:

    1. Stick up for your players once in a while. It might not change anything in the final analysis, but maybe if your players think you haven’t quit on the game, they’ll be less apt to. Plus, at least there will be something noteworthy to talk about once you get yourself tossed.

    2. It’s May 8: guys who don’t produce deserve to ride some pine, particularly if they look totally lost and/or don’t seem to give a shit that they look lost. I understand that the roster’s lack of flexibility handcuffs you in this regard…

    So, Z…

    3. Fix it. Get rid of Sweeney already, of Christ’s sake, and bring Tui back up. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: if Matt Tuiasasopo is the answer, then someone’s asking the wrong question. But at least he gives Wak a little bit of flexibility. If you don’t like that idea, then come up with something else, but please do something. We all understand Griffey for sentimental/marketing reasons; we can’t afford two guys who can’t hit AND can’t play the field.

    4. The next time you can get a guy like this for cheap, maybe you should do it.

    (PS Wak: Just heard Scioscia called a team meeting to try to jar his team out of their funk. I normally don’t put much stock in that crap, but apparently an ass chewing worked for the Angels. What do you have to lose? Seven more games in a row?)

  145. GarForever on May 8th, 2010 2:42 am

    This sucks, but I still believe in The System. Process over product, people…

    Sarcasm, flutieflakes?

  146. dingla on May 8th, 2010 2:42 am

    Its early. Everyone just needs to relax.

  147. GarForever on May 8th, 2010 2:52 am

    Its early. Everyone just needs to relax.

    Nobody hopes you’re right more than me, dingla. My central concern is this: I could handle the prolonged losing if the M’s at least looked like a major league team while doing it. Right now, outside of the starting pitching most nights, Ichiro and Guti, they don’t. The Chicago series was disappointing, but at least they didn’t look hopeless while losing those three games, in large part because Paul Konerko was doing his annual Watch-me-imitate-Albert-for-three-weeks schtick, and the M’s caught him at the wrong time. In other words, MLB quality baseball, just bad luck and bad results.

    Right now, they just look terrible. As I said about the last game against Tampa Bay, and it applies to tonight’s game as well: even if Hyphen or Felix pitched their hearts out and allowed 1 run over 8 innings with a lockdown 9th by a bullpen arm? This team is so hopeless at the plate it…just…wouldn’t…matter.

    I appreciate your optimism, and desperately want to share it. Wake me when they look like an MLB team again. The losing I can take; the looking overmatched on a nightly basis, I can not.

  148. Jinbo on May 8th, 2010 3:14 am

    I guess the only good news about this game is Michael Saunders hits a double…
    We havent seen any base hit thats greater than a single for long…

  149. lombardie360 on May 8th, 2010 5:45 am

    At least we can start taking a look at Bryce Harper… i kid i kid (i hope)

  150. marinermedic on May 8th, 2010 6:05 am

    What is with the umpires lately. Felix got squeezed on 3 or 4 pitches in the first inning. The opposing pitchers seems to be getting all the calls. Its frustrating watching so many games where this has been the case.

    I’m not worried about Ichiro but he looked horrible tonight. 2 swinging strikes that both bounced before the plate. Its tough to blame him for swinging though the way blue has been screwing us over lately.

    I was just waiting for Felix to get thrown out last night and I wouldn’t have blamed him. At least he kept his composure. Wak needs to get himslef thrown out at least once. Maybe it will be a wake up call for the rest of the team.

  151. TiltedMug on May 8th, 2010 6:29 am

    This was totally predictable. All of it. The lack of hitting. The lack of winning. And mostly the people jumping ship. This team wasn’t built to win it all this year. It was designed to give it a chance if “everything” went right, but mostly it was a blip before next year. Z will still get it right in the end.

  152. charliebrown on May 8th, 2010 7:10 am

    Nothing is going to change until Z and his front office realize that hitting is just as important as defense and pitching and that you must use resources (money, tradeable players) to ensure that you have adequate hitting.

    Defense is great people, but what you’re seeing with the Mariners this year is exactly what you get when you ignore hitting.

  153. clandon on May 8th, 2010 7:30 am

    This is Dave’s fault. He wrote that there was nothing interesting to write because the M’s management was doing everything right. We need to sacrifice more than a chicken to end this streak. Maybe a small third world country will do it

    Thank you.

  154. wtnuke on May 8th, 2010 8:00 am

    This is the one instance where I think they’ll sell more tickets if they stop playing the games. Can Griffey and Sweeney sing? Maybe they can turn Safeco into a “theater in the round.”

  155. davepaisley on May 8th, 2010 8:05 am

    but there’s very little that can or should be done at this point other than wait it out for key personnel to being their ascent toward mean production…

    Yeah, you get out there with you “regression to the mean” sign and root for that. Reasons why that may not happen:

    1) Players have bad years where they don’t play up to their average performance.

    2) Poor hitting is contagious – players aren’t robots – they respond to the situation they’re in. If nobody’s hitting, the team isn’t meeting expectations, well, psychologically it’s hard to dig yourself out.

    3) Who know what Wak is doing behind the scenes, but he apparently is a robot. Never mind Lou, what about, say, Mike Scioscia as an example?

    At some point this is who the team is, not their ZIPS or CHONE predictions.

  156. eponymous coward on May 8th, 2010 8:47 am

    Its early. Everyone just needs to relax.

    It would be a lot easier to relax if the team was getting bad results from good decision making- this happens. However, there were and are a number of decisions made making this roster that were questionable at the time, and aren’t working out now. When you’re making bad decisions, you deserve bad results.

    Also, we might say “but hey, they were awful last year, and they bounced back”- but they also didn’t make the playoffs last year. The games you punt in May do count in the standings in September, and this team hasn’t beaten a decent team in almost a month (their wins since mid-April are against a bad Royals team and a terrible Orioles team).

    They’re not this bad, but they aren’t anything approaching good.

  157. MBK on May 8th, 2010 8:53 am

    I was in bed this morning thinking that maybe Wak and Z should have taken them all out for ice cream after the game. Ice cream makes everyone feel better.

  158. King.Dome on May 8th, 2010 9:01 am

    From Larry Stone’s blog, a guy on Indian’s tv going off on his horrible team. As Larry said, he might as well be one of us pained Ms fans.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t9-DIKDGGA&feature=player_embedded#!

  159. luckyscrubs on May 8th, 2010 9:25 am

    Remember how happy we were about our off-season acquisitions? It is still too early to make meaningful judgments but so far:

    Figgins – disaster
    Bradley – disaster
    Lee – disaster (due to injury)
    Kotchman – disaster
    Griffey/Sweeney – disaster
    League/Texiera – been OK, but unremarkable starts
    Byrnes – disaster

    This is just a ton of bad luck and even our biggest critics couldn’t have invented a worse possible scenario. But if the results don’t greatly improve immediately this season could be over within a week.

    Also, according to MLB Trade Rumors, Jack Z is considering bringing Jose Guillen in to DH. I doubt it happens, but at least it suggests that Griffey and Sweeney’s leash has run out.

  160. guybrad on May 8th, 2010 9:31 am

    The problems start at the top of the lineup. Ichiro and Figgins have to get on base and shake things up or there is no hope.

  161. GarForever on May 8th, 2010 9:34 am

    Also, according to MLB Trade Rumors, Jack Z is considering bringing Jose Guillen in to DH.

    If that’s true, I say if they want Cortes back to make themselves feel better about the YuBet trade, make it happen. The comparison at MLBtraderumors between our two-headed hugging monster and NL pitchers makes me want to go out to the garage and just end it all.

  162. snapper on May 8th, 2010 10:20 am

    At least we can start taking a look at Bryce Harper… i kid i kid (i hope)

    Harper is eligible this June.

    Washington already has that #1 pick.

  163. TumwaterMike on May 8th, 2010 11:30 am

    Nothing is going to change until Z and his front office realize that hitting is just as important as defense and pitching and that you must use resources (money, tradeable players) to ensure that you have adequate hitting.

    They understand the importance of hitting. that’s why 6 of their first 7 picks last year were position players.

  164. charliebrown on May 8th, 2010 11:40 am

    They understand the importance of hitting. that’s why 6 of their first 7 picks last year were position players.

    Great, so in a few years the Mariners might have some guys on the major league roster that can hit.

    If they truly understood the importance of hitting, then they would have spent some of their resources this past offseason to improve the hitting at the major league level this year.

    They didnt.

  165. CarpCarter on May 8th, 2010 11:45 am

    Also, according to MLB Trade Rumors, Jack Z is considering bringing Jose Guillen in to DH. I doubt it happens, but at least it suggests that Griffey and Sweeney’s leash has run out.

    Give ‘em Snell. Bring back Kelley.

  166. Bip on May 8th, 2010 12:28 pm

    It’s somewhat entertaining to read some of these comments. I was admonished in the off-season for complaining about the fact we had no hitting (and no #3 or #4 hitter) only to get talked down to about our improved OBP and the fact that a run saved = a run scored. I imagine a few of those folks would reconsider with the fact that a run saved doesn’t help when you don’t score a run. It’s not pretty but I think there’s a balance in Z’s approach that was not emphasized. Pitching, defense AND offense get you to the post-season. We seemed to have skipped that last notion as charliebrown so aptly points out.

  167. scott19 on May 8th, 2010 1:24 pm

    Actually, I think the M’s need to change their opening theme music from that Deadmau5 song to The Doobie Brothers’ “What A Fool Believes.”

  168. Scottdids on May 8th, 2010 1:40 pm

    The offense was not ignored. Bradley was brought in, as was Figgins. The offense projected to be a little below average and we all knew that, and with a good defense and pitching staff, that gave the team a chance to compete.

    Unless you really saw the offense averaging 3 runs a game, and going a whole week scoring as many runs as some teams do in 1 game. If you actually called that, well then bully for you.

  169. mln on May 8th, 2010 1:58 pm

    I was in bed this morning thinking that maybe Wak and Z should have taken them all out for ice cream after the game. Ice cream makes everyone feel better.

    Ice cream, and pizza, and group hugs!

    Sweeney and Griffey should take the whole team for an outing to Chuckie Cheese or something.

  170. scott19 on May 8th, 2010 2:14 pm

    I think it’d be kinda nice for the team to take all of us fans out for pizza and ice cream…

    Besides the obvious “feel good” factor, it seems the least they could do for having to put up with all of this crappy play lately.

  171. TumwaterMike on May 8th, 2010 3:08 pm

    If they truly understood the importance of hitting, then they would have spent some of their resources this past offseason to improve the hitting at the major league level this year.

    And who was out there at a price the M’s could afford without getting stuck with a bad contract?

  172. Glen on May 8th, 2010 3:32 pm

    And who was out there at a price the M’s could afford without getting stuck with a bad contract?

    Here are two names.

    Vlad 1 year – $3.7 MM, 6.7 RAR (Batting-2010)
    Thome 1 year – $2.2 MM, 4.8 RAR (Batting-2010)

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