Game 59, Mariners at Rangers

Dave · June 9, 2010 at 3:00 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Snell vs Wilson, 5:05 pm.

Need some relief from Strasburgmania? West Tennessee is playing a day game today, and Dustin Ackley is 2 for 3 with a double, triple, and a walk. He’s now running a .475 on base percentage since May 1st. The adjustment to wood bats and Double-A might have taken a bit of time, but he’s made it, and he’s doing just fine now.

On to the Mariners line-up, because we have to, I guess.

Ichiro, RF
Bradley, DH
Gutierrez, CF
Lopez, 3B
Josh Wilson, SS
Tuiasosopo, 1B
Alfonzo, C
Saunders, LF
Figgins, 2B

Comments

110 Responses to “Game 59, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. Leroy Stanton on June 9th, 2010 3:04 pm

    Have you ever considered that Wak is trying to get fired?

    Exhibit #1: Josh Wilson hits 5th

  2. Jay Yencich on June 9th, 2010 3:05 pm

    The D-Jaxx had a ten-game winning streak snapped today…

  3. just a fan on June 9th, 2010 3:08 pm

    Leroy, who the hell else is gonna bat 5th?

  4. ima-zeliever on June 9th, 2010 3:09 pm

    Maybe Wak is wanting to make sure we get a good draft pick and building for the future?

  5. just a fan on June 9th, 2010 3:10 pm

    The bigger problem may be that he has Lopez and Figgins playing 2nd base. Now that’s grounds for a firin’!

  6. TomTuttle on June 9th, 2010 3:12 pm

    I still want Strasburg though.

    I hate being patient.

  7. griffin on June 9th, 2010 3:23 pm

    Wilson 5th and Tui 6th, haha this is comical.

    Dave, we need a post pretty soon about who we can truly look at getting for Lee.

  8. georgmi on June 9th, 2010 3:24 pm

    At least we still have something interesting on game day, to wit:

    How long until people stop commenting on “Lopez 2B”, and

    How long until Lopez earns the right to be referred to as 3B on this blog? Seems like he’s on his way there; at least, I’m pleasantly surprised by his defensive performance.

  9. guschiggins on June 9th, 2010 3:24 pm

    Tui hitting 6th is pretty awful… Why not bat Wilson 2nd?
    Ichiro-Wilson-Guti-Bradley-Alfonzo-Saunders-Lopez-Tui-Figgins… any problems with that?

  10. Leroy Stanton on June 9th, 2010 3:27 pm

    Leroy, who the hell else is gonna bat 5th?

    Bradley or Saunders. But I’ll confess, I didn’t know this fact: Josh Wilson has had 10 or more HRs four times in his minor league career. Don’t get me wrong, he’s done a great job this year, but he is no middle-of-the-order hitter.

  11. Leroy Stanton on June 9th, 2010 3:29 pm

    The bigger problem may be that he has Lopez and Figgins playing 2nd base.

    It’s so one of them can get the balls that Tui misses. :)

  12. Diehard on June 9th, 2010 3:34 pm

    Wonder if Snell is going to give up more of? Runs or walks? I say runs, but I may be wrong. M’s are gonna get their asses handed tonight thanks to our headcase starting pitcher who can’t throw strikes!

  13. mlathrop3 on June 9th, 2010 3:38 pm

    I would actually have no problems with this lineup (Josh Wilson is our 3rd best hitter now)… IF it was Langerhans instead of Tui at 1B.

  14. Leroy Stanton on June 9th, 2010 3:45 pm

    A quote from Geoff Baker:

    An interesting lineup development tonight sees Josh “Might be Superman” Wilson batting fifth in the order. As one baseball scout sitting right behind me in the pressbox just said to another, “bet you never thought that day would come.”

    We’re a laughingstock.

  15. Brzeczyszczykiewicza on June 9th, 2010 3:54 pm

    Why does Wak think Bradley is a better #2 hitter than Figgins? Then Bradley could be #4, and Lopez could be #5. Why is Tui playing? These decisions are all on Wak

  16. Chris_From_Bothell on June 9th, 2010 3:55 pm

    Have you ever considered that Wak is trying to get fired?

    Exhibit #1: Josh Wilson hits 5th

    Yes, that whole riding a hot bat thing is scandalous. It would have been much better to continue to peg him as a #7 hitter based solely on past seasons’ stats and current projections, and leave him batting 7th.

    Because if we’ve learned anything from the whole batting-Figgins-2nd-or-9th thing, it’s that underperformers should be left high in the batting order under the theory that they’ll turn it around, yet overachievers and hot bats should be stuffed low in the order or benched.

    We’re a laughingstock.

    That, I can get behind. Comes with being last place in the weakest division in baseball, last in the AL, and most likely last in most major offensive categories as well.

  17. Chris_From_Bothell on June 9th, 2010 3:58 pm

    Why does Wak think Bradley is a better #2 hitter than Figgins?

    Again, this is a variant of the whole “bat Ichi and Branyan #1 and #2, since they’re the only offense” thing from 2009. Except that a) Bradley isn’t hitting like Branyan did and b) we don’t have a bullpen that can hold a close lead.

    Why is Tui playing?

    To showcase him for a trade… no, can’t be it… because he’s a hot bat… hrm, no.. .out there for his glove while… no, no… ah! I have it! Wak lost a bet.

  18. Leroy Stanton on June 9th, 2010 3:59 pm

    It would have been much better to continue to peg him as a #7 hitter based solely on past seasons’ stats and current projections, and leave him batting 7th.

    Chris,

    Sarcasm is unbecoming. :)

    We could’ve bumped that overachiever Bradley out of the #2 spot and put Paperboy there.

  19. Chris_From_Bothell on June 9th, 2010 4:01 pm

    We could’ve bumped that overachiever Bradley out of the #2 spot and put Paperboy there.

    In all seriousness, I thought Bradley was batting 2nd as a lower pressure option, since he theoretically has a decent OBP and would theoretically see more fastballs with Ichi on base.

    I don’t know if those benefits are needed right now by The Wilson That Can Actually Play For 3 Days In A Row Without Snapping A Hammy (not as catchy as Paperboy, I know).

  20. 300ZXNA on June 9th, 2010 4:03 pm

    So, when they talk about adjusting to wooden bats, what all does that entail? Is it due to the smaller sweet spot? Or is the weight distribution different? Or both? Granted the wooden bat has a lower coefficient of restitution, but it seems that would just be a matter of accepting it, rather than any adjustment. Anyway, I’ve just never had it firmly explained as to what is entailed in adjusting to wooden bats.

  21. Dennisss on June 9th, 2010 4:03 pm

    On to the Mariners line-up, because we have to, I guess.

    Nah, let’s talk more about Ackley, and which of the current stiffs he can replace, and how soon. I want to hear some good news.

  22. DMZ on June 9th, 2010 4:04 pm

    People have written vast amounts (books, even) on the hot bat illusion. There’s nothing there.

    If you could somehow disprove the mountain of evidence and research on this to show there was any value in the hot bat, you would immediately become one of the most successful baseball (sports, even) researchers ever.

  23. Leroy Stanton on June 9th, 2010 4:07 pm

    In all seriousness, I thought Bradley was batting 2nd as a lower pressure option, since he theoretically has a decent OBP and would theoretically see more fastballs with Ichi on base.

    Sadly, that is the theory. I don’t what’s going to happen “when his bat gets going”, though. Apparently, the thinking is that his bat is a bitch to get started, but once it is, it can hit all kinds of pitches. We’ll see…

  24. DMZ on June 9th, 2010 4:09 pm

    On wood bats: it’s generally kind of a canard. Good hitters make the transition.

    The big difference, I’ve been told, is that in high school/college it’s much easier to fight off balls inside for hits, where with wood bats you’ll break the bat or get just terrible contact, so hitters have to stop swinging at that or get their hands farther in.

    And also the pitchers in metal bat leagues are much more prone to nibbling and throwing junk, because anything in the strike zone can be driven, while in the minors all the pitchers have a reasonably good fastball and have just discovered they can pitch on the hands and not be burned.

    That’s the story, anyway.

  25. Chris_From_Bothell on June 9th, 2010 4:11 pm

    People have written vast amounts (books, even) on the hot bat illusion. There’s nothing there.

    If you could somehow disprove the mountain of evidence and research on this

    What’s the best / canonical source for this? If there’s a link to a succinct summary it’d be interesting. Presumably it’s some statistical study using a decade or two’s worth of seasons, or something?

  26. Dave on June 9th, 2010 4:15 pm

    The Book, by Tom Tango.

  27. DMZ on June 9th, 2010 4:16 pm

    Inside the Book’s is great.

    Opening chunk here.

    The book “Curve Ball” also gets into this in great detail.

  28. Leroy Stanton on June 9th, 2010 4:22 pm

    I don’t really believe in the hot bat theory either; it’s kind of like giving 110%. I do believe in a cold bat, though. A hitter can be off, either mentally or mechanically, but they can’t be “really on”.

  29. MrZDevotee on June 9th, 2010 4:23 pm

    I for one am glad Bradley isn’t being asked to bat 4th any longer… He’s never been a power/rbi guy (15+ HR’s twice and 75+ RBI once in his career), but somehow got pegged with that role coming to Seattle? He’s closer to a Guty than a Branyan.

    I think he’s ideally suited to batting either 2nd or 3rd. And in a way, that’s exactly what he is, when we turn over the order and get Figgins, Ichiro, Bradley.

    I see Bradley suffering the same self-imposed pressure as Beltre in Seattle– big contract, and the sense that they need to bang every pitch off the wall (if not over it), at least twice a game.

    He’s never done that, so why should we expect it now?

  30. Harrison on June 9th, 2010 4:28 pm

    Have you ever considered that Wak is trying to get fired? Exhibit #1: Josh Wilson hits 5th

    Josh can hit and has a great attitude. I’ve always loved the guy. Perhaps Exhibit #1 should be — Tui hitting 6th. CJ Wilson has fabulous stuff when he’s on and Tui isn’t swinging all that well. Yet Carp is no better. Wak is pretty much out of options…but I, too, wonder why Ryan Langerhans gets such limited playing time.

  31. MrZDevotee on June 9th, 2010 4:29 pm

    As for Wilson and Tui in the middle of the lineup, another reason could be a case of a managerial mandate to let them either “sink or swim”– if we’re not serious about making the playoffs any longer, with the trading dealine on the horizon Z wants to see what the borderline guys have when thrown directly on the fire– before either shipping them off, or sending them down for good.

    Neither of them really have a need to spend more time at AAA. They either make the roster on merit, or it’s off to Kansas City at this point. So yeah, tell Wak to stick ‘em in the middle of the lineup, since nobody else wants the job (based on performance), and let’s see what happens.

  32. Utis on June 9th, 2010 4:40 pm

    One angle on the M’s season I haven’t seen covered elsewhere is their change in weight training. Recall how they changed their weight room during spring training. Now we are seeing most of the team with significantly less sluging which one might associate with decrased strength. Have there been any follow up reports on this? I am just speculating and would be curious to get more information. Were there other baseball teams that adopted similar methods? How are they doing?

  33. KaminaAyato on June 9th, 2010 4:42 pm

    I figure Wilson and Tui are in the lineup where they are because those are the only spots left.

    If you believe the theory that we’re trying to put runners on in front of Ichiro, then really they’re treating the lineup as follows:

    (8th – Saunders)
    9th – Figgins
    1st – Ichiro
    2nd – Bradley
    3rd – DTFT
    4th – Lopez
    5th – Wilson
    6th – Tui
    7th – Alfonzo
    (8th – Saunders)

    I include Saunders twice because he’s another speedy type that could be considered as a candidate for a baserunner in front of Ichiro, if only he could get on base more.

    If you look at it this way, Wilson and Tui become either the 6-7 or 7-8 batters. Which is probably where we would want them to be batting.

  34. Jay Yencich on June 9th, 2010 4:47 pm

    One angle on the M’s season I haven’t seen covered elsewhere is their change in weight training. Recall how they changed their weight room during spring training. Now we are seeing most of the team with significantly less sluging which one might associate with decrased strength. Have there been any follow up reports on this? I am just speculating and would be curious to get more information. Were there other baseball teams that adopted similar methods? How are they doing?

    The program was only mandatory for the minor leagues, where they are seeing improved power output. The contract was exclusive.

  35. spankystout on June 9th, 2010 4:55 pm

    Move Ackley to AAA, they aren’t fooling him at all in AA. Then bump up Seager, and Franklin a level each.

    snell is tedious

  36. Utis on June 9th, 2010 5:02 pm

    The program was only mandatory for the minor leagues, where they are seeing improved power output. The contract was exclusive.

    Thanks. Good to know they are getting some results. Do we know which major leaguers adopted the program?

  37. joser on June 9th, 2010 5:05 pm

    Even if some did, I don’t think you would see measurably different results this soon.

  38. dingla on June 9th, 2010 5:07 pm

    ya Alfonzo!

  39. Paul B on June 9th, 2010 5:07 pm

    re a hot bat, that is why BABIP can be a very useful stat. If a hitter is doing really really well, first thing to do is check his BABIP and see if it is really high (which indicates he has been lucky).

  40. dingla on June 9th, 2010 5:08 pm

    stat from in game:

    Ichiro leads ALL players since 1901 with 1.4 hits per game!

  41. Paul B on June 9th, 2010 5:09 pm

    You know, when a team is only getting like 4 hits a game, it doesn’t make a lot of difference which order the “hitters” bat in.

  42. Marinersdude83 on June 9th, 2010 5:20 pm

    The paper boy delivers! I really really like this kid at SS. What a nice suprise he has been this year.

  43. lalo on June 9th, 2010 5:23 pm

    Release Snell Please is “AWFUL”

  44. rick m on June 9th, 2010 5:28 pm

    I can see where this is going…CJ Wilson will settle down, Ian will continue to suck.

  45. Paul B on June 9th, 2010 5:29 pm

    Release Snell Please is “AWFUL”

    Ian Snell isn’t very good either.

    Who is Release Snell Please? And what was his mother thinking when she named him?

  46. SODOMOJO360 on June 9th, 2010 5:31 pm

    Whyyy is Snell still starting? Why not give French a chance? We know what Snell is and he’s not going to get better.

  47. rick m on June 9th, 2010 5:36 pm

    Snell finished Friday’s game “strong” retiring the last 8 batters, so Wak is hoping that 5 days later he can build on that success.

  48. henryv on June 9th, 2010 5:46 pm

    Can we just talk to FSN about broadcasting the West Tenn team instead of these amateurs they keep putting on every day around 5?

    I’d rather watch Pineda and Ackley then Snell and Tui any day.

  49. Marinersdude83 on June 9th, 2010 5:48 pm

    Ugh, as long as Snell is pitching there is no hope.

  50. henryv on June 9th, 2010 5:50 pm

    Dave Niehaus is getting tired of watching this crap, too. You can hear it in his voice, and what he’s saying. He has had some harsh words (for him) for several M’s in the last series.

  51. SODOMOJO360 on June 9th, 2010 5:51 pm

    Snell sucks!!!

  52. dingla on June 9th, 2010 5:52 pm

    Dude, its not Snell’s fault Tui got pulled off the bag.

  53. dingla on June 9th, 2010 5:52 pm

    Dang, Alfonzo is rattled!

  54. henryv on June 9th, 2010 5:52 pm

    Release. Snell. Now. Not at the end of the game. Release him during the game.

    Don’t even let him shower. Demand that he give us the uniform before leaving.

  55. SODOMOJO360 on June 9th, 2010 5:53 pm

    Uh Dude, what about the 7 hits and the wild pitch in 1 and 2/3 innings

  56. Marinersdude83 on June 9th, 2010 5:53 pm

    Fuck! 6-2 I have to go do something else, this game is ugly nasty bad.

  57. dingla on June 9th, 2010 5:54 pm

    LOL. WHAT AN INNING!

  58. Marinersdude83 on June 9th, 2010 5:54 pm

    Cool 8-2! Nice job Snell you suck.

  59. SonOfZavaras on June 9th, 2010 5:54 pm

    I have a feeling the Ian Snell Experiment is fast coming to an end….

  60. Ichiroll on June 9th, 2010 5:55 pm

    How many awful starts does Snell have to make for Wak to get a clue?! My god…

  61. rick m on June 9th, 2010 5:55 pm

    I wish Snell would volunteer to go to AAA for us, like he did in Pittsburgh.

  62. BillyJive on June 9th, 2010 5:55 pm

    Ok I just shut the game off….
    Night everyone!

  63. SODOMOJO360 on June 9th, 2010 5:55 pm

    Bye Bye Snell. Hope you enjoyed your M’s career

  64. Axtell on June 9th, 2010 5:55 pm

    At least with the game getting out of hand so quick I can enjoy an evening outdoors…

  65. DC on June 9th, 2010 5:56 pm

    How can Chuckles Armstrong and Howie Lincoln still be employed?

  66. henryv on June 9th, 2010 5:57 pm

    AAA? Snell doesn’t belong in Tacoma. Don’t saddle the Rainiers with that trash.

    I wouldn’t let him pitch for my beer league softball team.

  67. dingla on June 9th, 2010 5:58 pm

    Sorry Dude, 8-2 ;) . Im glad u went and did something else and didnt have to watch the icing on the cake.

    BTW Snell has an uncanny resemblance to Hervé Villechaize.

  68. dingla on June 9th, 2010 5:59 pm

    How can Chuckles Armstrong and Howie Lincoln still be employed?

    Thats a joke right?

  69. Marinersmanjk on June 9th, 2010 5:59 pm

    Well it was 2-0 when I left to go study for finals. Right before I left, I made a sarcastic comment about how Snell was going to blow this game. I was half serious about that, but I didn’t expect a 6-2 game. Man he fucking sucks. Seriously, why the fuck is he on our team? Though I guess we do have Tui playing first base…

  70. Ichiroll on June 9th, 2010 5:59 pm

    Time to call up Ackley? Jesus, this season is more of a disgrace than 2008.

  71. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:00 pm

    At this point I’d like to see Guti pulled from the game to make sure he doesn’t get injured. I’d say the same thing for Ichiro, but well, he never gets hurt.

  72. CarpCarter on June 9th, 2010 6:02 pm

    This is a total joke. Snell needs to be DFA’d already.

  73. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:03 pm

    Time to call up Ackley? Jesus, this season is more of a disgrace than 2008.

    Nah, Ackley will be here in 2012, when this team can compete again. Probably the same with Pineda.

    However, I’d love to see them both in Tacoma, to make some team in Western Washington worth watching.

  74. dingla on June 9th, 2010 6:05 pm

    There is HOPE, Henry. lol

  75. Marinersmanjk on June 9th, 2010 6:06 pm

    The national news is more interesting than this game. That’s how sad our team is.

  76. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:07 pm

    Yeah, and there is also the lottery.

  77. dingla on June 9th, 2010 6:10 pm

    Personally, its been years since M’s as a team were more interesting than the national news.

  78. SODOMOJO360 on June 9th, 2010 6:10 pm

    Hey, a real pitcher is in the game

  79. DC on June 9th, 2010 6:14 pm

    Dingla,

    Not a joke at all. They have been running this thing for awhile now and all we have is “let’s all relive the 95 season”, and bobbleheads and choo-choo train giveaways. We need winners and people who are passionate about winning at the top and all the way down. I’m tired of this. The real fans deserve much better than Chuckles and Howie.

  80. Des71 on June 9th, 2010 6:18 pm

    Words of Wisdom: when the Pittsburgh Pirates give up on a young pitcher (Kris Benson, Oliver Perez, Ian Snell), don’t be the team to give him another opportunity.

  81. msfanmike on June 9th, 2010 6:19 pm

    Are the Mariners at all familiar with the concept of addition by subtraction?

    Ian Snell is 5’11″ with no downward plane on his pitches, no command of his pitches, and he throws from a 3/4 ish arm slot – so his pitches are nice and FAT. He is taylor made for being tatered. Good call on hitting Wilson 5th (today) Wak, but bad call on even entertaining the idea that Snell could give the team a chance to win. Mariners management is sending a guy to the mound that they know cannot win. They must know it. Why are they denying it. Hoping for a guy to get through 5 innings while giving up less than 5 runs … come on!

    Consistently bad … is not good. Case in point: there is no batted or thrown ball that Tui cannot catch.

    There are too many guys to mention that need to be DFA’d yesterday. Let the bi-annual rebuilding process commence/continue. Can we please get it right this time without any additional Howard Lincoln “false positives.”

  82. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:27 pm

    Playing today we have 5 players who didn’t start the year on the team. They weren’t injured.

    Half of our team is from Tacoma.

    That’s right, half the people we have on the field weren’t worthy of a 25-man roster at the beginning of the year.

  83. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:29 pm

    A ball with top spin shouldn’t hit you on the top of the hand…

  84. MX on June 9th, 2010 6:30 pm

    Pitching? No.

    Defense? No.

    Offense? No.

    No wonder this team sucks big time.

  85. Bremerton guy on June 9th, 2010 6:30 pm

    People have written vast amounts (books, even) on the hot bat illusion. There’s nothing there.

    Yet, how does one ignore Sweeney’s recent one-week (give or take) explosion? Should the Mariners not have played him, even though he was hitting a home run nearly every game he played? It’s not an issue of “small sample size,” the fact is the guy was on fire, if only for that short time. Seems like he had a “hot bat” and it would have been silly not to have played him.

    And for a more sustained “hot bat,” what about Jose Vidro the year before he was released? He kept on hitting and hitting, and many people here were saying he shouldn’t be playing because he couldn’t sustain it. But he did, and didn’t he end up hitting .314 that year? Sure, he regressed to his expected production the next year, but how can one ignore the “hot bat” in that context, and why would anyone want to sit a guy who seemed to be playing way over his expected capabilities?

    Over time, people usually play to their expected capabilities. But once in a while, there is an anomaly. Remember Norm Cash? He hit .361 in 1961 and never had another season above .300. Seems like he had a “hot bat.” One can’t just close one’s eyes to this anomalous phenomenon, can one?

  86. MX on June 9th, 2010 6:31 pm

    Sweeney is on DL, Bremerton guy.

  87. MX on June 9th, 2010 6:32 pm

    I hope I can see Ichiro pitching tonight.

  88. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:33 pm

    Kinsler has more runs scored today than Tui has RBI this year.

  89. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:38 pm

    Bremerton guy,

    There is no way to tell when a hot streak starts or ends. Hitting a guy who is “hot” is reactive, not proactive.

    Just because you flip a coin 10 times and get heads 10 times doesn’t mean you should start betting on heads (or tails for that matter).

    And there has been tons of studies showing that playing the “hot bat” doesn’t mean they are going to succeed any more than the player that you should have in.

    Just because Sweeney is hitting lefties well doesn’t mean he should be hitting righties the next day. Especially Sweeney, who gets hurt from all the hugging and fighting. Or at least threatening.

  90. henryv on June 9th, 2010 6:41 pm

    So, in conclusion, screw this team.

    Screw you:

    Figgins, Johnson, Snell, RR-S, Tui, Sean White, oh and Wak, too.

  91. Rick Banjo on June 9th, 2010 6:44 pm

    Hey guys, just checking in to see how it’s goi—

    OH SHIT.

  92. justcruisn on June 9th, 2010 6:45 pm

    It’s a good thing this team was built for “run prevention”….. otherwise it would be 23-2 right now!

  93. Chris_From_Bothell on June 9th, 2010 6:46 pm

    Dave & DMZ – thanks for pointers, I see what you mean now.

    Also, wow, we knew this game was a foregone conclusion with Snell out there but I didn’t think it would be that quick. I second the call for a mid-game DFA. What a head case. (And I say this as a Milton Bradley supporter…)

  94. Breadbaker on June 9th, 2010 6:57 pm

    Dear Mr. Sims,

    Just because his surname is Tuiasosopo doesn’t mean he has “great athletic gifts.” He can’t hit, field or run. If the Mariners were to DFA him, he would not even be claimed by the Royals.

    That is all.

  95. JMHawkins on June 9th, 2010 7:01 pm

    Yet, how does one ignore Sweeney’s recent one-week (give or take) explosion?

    The same way you ignore every other part of this miserable season – with lots of drinking.

    On a serious note, the issues with streaks isn’t that they don’t happen, it’s that there is zero -ZERO – predictive value in them. If a guy is 8 for 18 over the last four games with 5 HRs, he might still be on the verge of a 1 for 27 slump. The studies that Derek is talking about look at streaks, hot and cold, and try to find some predictive value. They don’t find any.

    Maybe a better way to put it is this: If a guy is on a hot streak, you know he will cool off some day, right? Nobody expects Sweeney to hit 30 HRs over 30 days, even if he’s hit 5 HR over the last 5 days. So if he’s been on a hot streak, you konw his hot streak will come to an end. When? Tonight? Tomorrow? Next Tuesday? July?

    You don’t know. You get no advanced warning that his hot streak is about to end. It’s not like Pac Man where the ghosts start flashing when they’re about to become dangerous again. You don’t know how long it’s going to last, you don’t even really know when it’s over. 0-4 tonight, oh-oh, is it over? Or will he go 3-4 with a Grand Salami tomororrow?

  96. msfanmike on June 9th, 2010 7:14 pm

    On a positive note: The Mariners have found a way to avoid those troubling 1-run losses. Is this 5 “blowouts” in the last 6 games … or have I miscounted?

  97. Breadbaker on June 9th, 2010 7:19 pm

    or have I miscounted?

    No, but we haven’t reached the endpoint of that streak either.

  98. msfanmike on June 9th, 2010 7:21 pm

    No, but we haven’t reached the endpoint of that streak either

    I couldn’t agree more Breadbaker … I couldn’t agree more.

  99. scott19 on June 9th, 2010 7:21 pm

    Mariners management is sending a guy to the mound that they know cannot win.

    This is one reason why, no matter how sucky Hyphen’s season has gone so far, you do not move him. After Snell has been DFA’d, Lee traded, and Bedard allowed to walk at the end of the season, you’re gonna need some guys for your starting rotation next year.

  100. kenshabby on June 9th, 2010 7:25 pm

    HAhAHhahHAHAHaHahahahahaahhaHAHAHhohohohohohho-HHeheheheheeewooooOOOOO!

    At this point there’s nothing else to say.

  101. RickMirerManiac on June 9th, 2010 7:30 pm

    Please tell me someone just heard Sim’s “The Roof! The Roof! The Roof is on fire!”

  102. scott19 on June 9th, 2010 7:31 pm

    Weeeellll…at least the Blackhawks are only about four minutes and change from winning their first Stanley Cup in fifty years…

    I mean, I hate that team…but, hey, at least it’s a better game than the one the Mariners are trying to play at the moment.

  103. Diehard on June 9th, 2010 7:32 pm

    DFA Snell, DFA Sweeney and Kotchman. Get rid of anyone who isn’t going to help this team. Time to see what the young guys have. Wonder if Ackley will get called up this year…

  104. Paul L on June 9th, 2010 7:45 pm

    Nice timing on that comment, scott19 :)

    Was there ANY chance we could have kept Lee if we were any good this year? I assume not, but it’s frustrating that we never made it a possibility. That guy’s better than Felix.

    There can’t be many more Lee starts at Safeco. Maybe we should have a Cliff Lee Appreciation Day for his next start to try and get him to stay :P

  105. Breadbaker on June 9th, 2010 7:45 pm

    Weeeellll…at least the Blackhawks are only about four minutes and change from winning their first Stanley Cup in fifty years…

    Not so fast, apparently.

  106. scott19 on June 9th, 2010 7:48 pm

    Not so fast, apparently.

    I noticed that, too, Breadbaker. Hell of a game that turned out to be!

  107. scott19 on June 9th, 2010 7:53 pm

    Nice timing on that comment, scott19

    Well, after Chicago chumped out the Canucks in the Second Round, I figured the least I could do was to help along the “Curse of Marian Hossa” by mentioning that! :)

    And, on Lee, I would say yes…though, unfortunately, that chance is now looooooong gone.

  108. kenshabby on June 9th, 2010 8:03 pm

    This season reminds of a certain 4th of July from my childhood, when my friend brought over that M-80. For weeks we’d been looking forward to blowing something up with that thing. Then we lit the fuse and fffffttttt…(silence)

  109. Marinersdude83 on June 9th, 2010 9:01 pm

    This season sucks, I’m so disapointed after all the buzz this offseason. At least the question marks have been figured out now. However, Fister, Vargas and the paper boy have really done well. I guess that’s three nice bright spots on the year.

  110. r-gordon-7 on June 9th, 2010 11:12 pm

    Yet, how does one ignore Sweeney’s recent one-week (give or take) explosion?

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day…

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