Game 60, Mariners at Rangers

Dave · June 10, 2010 at 3:00 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Rowland-Smith vs Hunter, 5:05 pm.

Starting today, we shift. For the first two months, I’ve used this space to comment on the line-ups, the match-ups, the teams chances of winning, and their relative place in the standings. None of that matters anymore. It’s now big picture time, as everything revolves around the teams that they can put on the field in 2011 and beyond. The day to day stuff… it’s just not important.

Ichiro, DH
Langerhans, RF
Gutierrez, CF
Lopez, 3B
Josh Wilson, SS
Carp, 1B
Johnson, C
Saunders, LF
Figgins, 2B

Comments

95 Responses to “Game 60, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. Ichiroll on June 10th, 2010 5:51 pm

    The broadcasting crew for the Mariners is so bored with this team, they’re spending more time watching a little kid eat a cheeseburger. Not that I blame them or anything, but that’s saying something….

  2. Des71 on June 10th, 2010 5:52 pm

    If you pull Hyphen do you really think the bullpen will do any better?

    Yes, I do.

  3. Hammy57 on June 10th, 2010 5:53 pm

    And here comes the 3 run homerun from Hamilton. Can you imagine if the Rays still had this guy?

  4. Hud67 on June 10th, 2010 5:55 pm

    If anyone bought one of those Hyphen shirts they can at least say it is a minus sign.

  5. Hammy57 on June 10th, 2010 5:55 pm

    Wow Figgins. Someone put a tent on the field. It’s a damn circus.

  6. Des71 on June 10th, 2010 5:57 pm

    Good grief. Figgins certainly has been a disappointment defensively. I would like to see him back at third base next season.

  7. Hud67 on June 10th, 2010 5:57 pm

    Why did Vlad have to stay in the M’s division?

  8. zmic11 on June 10th, 2010 5:58 pm

    gotta feel for rrs at some point. he knows he sucks, we know he sucks, everyone knows he sucks, yet we are leaving him out there to dry.

  9. Des71 on June 10th, 2010 5:59 pm

    Enough of this train wreck. I’m going to watch Game 4 of the NBA Finals.

  10. Hammy57 on June 10th, 2010 6:00 pm

    The real question is…wouldn’t Vlad have looked nice in an M’s uniform as our DH this year? Ugh. What could have been.

  11. Hammy57 on June 10th, 2010 6:01 pm

    PLEASE GET A CATCHER WHO CAN BLOCK A PITCH IN THE DIRT! I have never seen such a bad catcher. Ever.

  12. RickMirerManiac on June 10th, 2010 6:01 pm

    Ok, gotta get RRS out of there. This is just sad to watch.

  13. Hammy57 on June 10th, 2010 6:02 pm

    RRS is from Australia. Don’t try to tell me the heat is bothering him. He should be used to it.

  14. EthanN on June 10th, 2010 6:03 pm

    Didn’t bother tuning in to this one. The M’s are horrible. And that’s about as much as I can sugarcoat it.

  15. Hud67 on June 10th, 2010 6:03 pm

    Teams like this do get people fired.

  16. BillyJive on June 10th, 2010 6:07 pm

    I turned the game on just now….what the hell is wrong with me? I’m like a retarded person that doesn’t know I’m retarded.
    Have a good one folks…

  17. Ichiroll on June 10th, 2010 6:09 pm

    Thank GOD I get to see Vargas, Lee, and Felix down here in San Diego. Got great seats for every single game.. I actually think I wouldn’t have gone had it been Snell or Rowland-Smith..

    They are both worthy of me losing $50 if it means I don’t have to see their atrocious efforts on the field…

  18. Idaho M on June 10th, 2010 6:16 pm

    I had a urology exam that was less painful than watching these guys !

  19. SODOMOJO360 on June 10th, 2010 6:17 pm

    Good grief. Figgins certainly has been a disappointment defensively. I would like to see him back at third base next season

    The problem is, he’s better than Lopez was at 2nd

  20. scott19 on June 10th, 2010 6:17 pm

    Enough of this train wreck. I’m going to watch Game 4 of the NBA Finals.

    Not a bad idea…even if it is the Lakers and Boston.

    Go Celtics (since they’re the lesser of evils and Ray Allen is there)!

  21. scott19 on June 10th, 2010 6:22 pm

    RRS is from Australia. Don’t try to tell me the heat is bothering him. He should be used to it.

    Actually, I had a feeling he might get shelled (again) tonight…since “fly ball” pitchers tend to get lit up in that park once the weather gets hot there.

  22. msfanmike on June 10th, 2010 6:24 pm

    For the purpose of efficiency: Ditto all comments from last night and fire up the Two and a Half Men reruns.

    Figgy’s error: It simply expedited the inevitable. Instead of RRS giving up 10 runs in six innings, he will likely give up 10 runs in five innings.

    With proper deference to RRS’ season and to today’s game specifically:

    P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C

    T-A-C-O-M-A

  23. SODOMOJO360 on June 10th, 2010 6:24 pm

    At least Langer has a good eye

  24. Swungonandbelted on June 10th, 2010 6:59 pm

    The hell with expanded replay, can MLB institute a “mercy rule” instead?

  25. firova2 on June 10th, 2010 7:00 pm

    35 minutes between comments. The season is indeed dead.

  26. luckyscrubs on June 10th, 2010 7:07 pm

    I have a hard time believing they suck this bad. Did the Mariners collectively give up? Is RoJo telling the batters what is coming? Has the AL West stolen our signs? Did GMZ sell his soul to the devil to get Lee, but failed to read the fine print that payment was due the day he hit the active roster?

    Bring on the trade deadline and then the off season. 2011 can’t come soon enough.

  27. jephdood on June 10th, 2010 7:07 pm

    How much of that was Texas’ offense being REALLY good, or League being REALLY bad?

    Damn, he just loops that ‘sinker’ in there like a fat pitch.

  28. SeasonTix on June 10th, 2010 7:13 pm

    Even more pathetic … I’ve already PAID for my tickets this year (weekend plan, every Fri,Sat Sun game).

    I’ve already stayed home from a couple games that I had tickets to, I couldn’t give the tickets away and it was too painful to go to Safeco watch in person. At home I can just turn off the TV when we’re down 7-0 in the 3rd inning.

    I actually thought the M’s would finally get back to the playoffs this year, which is the main reason I have seaon tickets in the first place.

    Very depressing season. 🙁

    How did it all go so wrong?

  29. firova2 on June 10th, 2010 7:13 pm

    Ichiro
    Gutierrez
    Hernandez
    Figgins

    These are the untouchables.

    Bradley will be here because of the contract and because he is Bradley.

    Vargas and Fister are useful and cheap, so they should stick around. Is there anyone else essential to this team’s success next year? It seems that everyone else is fair game for trade or other shipping method.

  30. mutpup on June 10th, 2010 7:17 pm

    So we are 6 games back in the 2011 number one overall pick race and the good news is baltimore won today!

  31. MariLOLs on June 10th, 2010 7:24 pm

    12 runs against so far, but only 4 are earned. League gave up 4 hits and 4 runs in 1/3 of an inning, but his ERA went DOWN! Fantastic.

  32. King.Dome on June 10th, 2010 7:29 pm

    Ok, here is some anger – I thought it might be appropriate here. Maybe I should add it to the post from yesterday. It’s kind of funny too. It’s Wally Backman, now a minor league manager, going off on some umps. He happened to have a mic on that day, so you can hear the audio super clear. Warning, there’s a good amount of swearing.

    http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/must-watch-wally-backman-gets-ejected-and-unloads-a-giant-can-of-awesomess/

  33. nuguy on June 10th, 2010 7:34 pm

    Just got here. Saw the Choo for Broussard deal mentioned. Didn’t BB also trade Asdrubal Cabrera to Cleveland, for the immortal Eduardo Perez, essentially making the same bad deal twice. Genius repeats.

  34. Westside guy on June 10th, 2010 7:37 pm

    I’ve already stayed home from a couple games that I had tickets to, I couldn’t give the tickets away and it was too painful to go to Safeco watch in person. At home I can just turn off the TV when we’re down 7-0 in the 3rd inning.

    Maybe go to the game but make it more about something else. There’s a lot of good food at Safeco – you could try and eat something from as many places as possible (it’s what we did as kids at the Puyallup fair). Or walk around and have a contest to see who can spot the most redheads. Or stand by the bullpen and offer pitching tweaks to the opposing pitchers as they warm up.

  35. dang on June 10th, 2010 7:38 pm

    The wasteland grows.

  36. Tweedy428 on June 10th, 2010 7:40 pm

    I was going to go down to the games in SD this weekend but I can’t bring myself to spend money on watching this crapfest. As far as Im concerned everyone on this team is trade bait except Ichiro, Felix, Fister, and Gutti. This team just sucks and probably couldn’t even contend for a title at the AAA level. It pains me to say this I was trying to keep hope alive after winning the Minnesotta series last week. But it’s time to face facts, this team sucks. April 5 2011 can’t come fast enough

  37. Westside guy on June 10th, 2010 7:41 pm

    Oh man, speaking of bad news… I just popped over to ESPN.com. New item on “Rumor Central” – “Potential destinations for Cliff Lee”.

    I know it’s inevitable, but it still makes me sad.

  38. scott19 on June 10th, 2010 7:43 pm

    Hey, if you have tickets to the Cubs game that The Chef is starting, you could always become a Wrigley “Bleacher Creature” for a day and root for him. 🙂

  39. GarForever on June 10th, 2010 7:43 pm

    Before we want to completely flip out and call for Hyphen’s head, let’s all please remember that the “All-World Defense” this team was supposed to have cost him FOUR unearned runs tonight, and cost League another four. Yes, I know great pitchers are supposed to be able to pitch around mistakes, theirs and their teammates’, but fair is fair: you give a team like Texas extra outs, especially in that band box, you’re asking for it. I have been disappointed in Rowland-Smith this season, but he is less than one year removed from this. With an xFIP of 4.88 last year, no one’s going to confuse him for Cliff Lee, but as fourth/fifth starters go, one could do worse. Snell, on the other hand, is a lost cause. He obviously just doesn’t have whatever widget he needs to put it together as a major league pitcher.

    The last few games have been brutal, and should put to rest any delusions that 2010 can be salvaged. All the better, as far as I’m concerned, so the FO can get serious about 2011 and 2012. But the basic fact remains that the team is 29th in OPS and wOBA; before last night’s drubbing, the M’s had allowed the fewest runs in the AL West, and only the Twins, Yankees, and Rays had allowed fewer runs in the AL. It’s easy to vent at the pitching after the last few games, but the offense sucks, pure and simple, period. It shouldn’t have, but it does, and the blame for the Mariners’ terrible season rests far more at the feet of the offense for their inability to produce than anywhere else. I can pick on Wak for blowing a game here and there with stupid bullpen decision, but when you barely score 3.5 runs a game in the AL, you reap what you sow.

  40. firova2 on June 10th, 2010 7:50 pm

    Is it time to DFA Kotchman? Keep Sweeney on permanent DL? It seems that anyone who is not going to be around next year basically doesn’t need the playing time this year.

  41. Seattleken on June 10th, 2010 7:51 pm

    “The problem is, he’s better than Lopez was at 2nd”

    Based on what? Not scouting Angels moved Figgans from second to third because he a below average fielder at 2B five years ago in 2005! He was a UZR/150 -9.2 then.

    If you look at the stats..
    In 2010 Figgins is a UZR/150 -14.6 at 2B Yikees!

    Lopez is atleast an average 2B not horrible like Figgans. in 2005 Lopez was a +3.9 Figgans -9.2
    Lopez 2009 0.3 vs Figgans 2010 -14.6

    Its not even close Jose Lopez is an average 2B fielder while Figgans is a awful secondbaseman.

    At third base Lopez is even better then Figgans as well but not as much as its a career average +9.3 for Figgans vs a +16 for Lopez.

    But clearly one of the worst moves by Wak and co was looking at player size not the fielding stats and moving the two. You lost significantly on defense as you went from a plus 3B and an average 2B for a plus 3B and a well below average secondbaseman.

    I cannot prove it but I also think the move affected both players when at the plate. But I have proven the move cost the Mariners big time in the field and it was based on body shape, homerun totals, stupid fans not the facts.

    Seattleken

  42. SonOfZavaras on June 10th, 2010 7:58 pm

    That Backman video. Was. Awesome. It actually made me crack a smile on this “one-more-piece-of-poop-to-have-to-smell” day of the season.

    As soon as they sign some 2010 draftees and their season starts, I’m concentrating on the AquaSox. At least, if I see some bad professional baseball there, I have reason to expect it.

  43. firova2 on June 10th, 2010 7:58 pm

    “Figgins.”

  44. Seattleken on June 10th, 2010 8:05 pm

    sorry, I was on a rant and didn’t review for player name spelling, thus had both Figgins and Figgans in the write up.

    The point is the M’s are still making bad choices for no reason. But of course its FIGGINS my bad.

  45. A51 on June 11th, 2010 11:41 am

    The 2010 post season chances for the M’s is over, but a chance to have a respectable record is not. For the pitchers it is a matter of getting back to the basics and not giving up. It looks like some of our pitchers have given up hope after giving up a run. Offensively they are lost the M’s are a better team then they have shown. The M’s have to get back to being one unit like last year (even if Griffey is gone), the phrase “One unit, one goal” comes to mind. Wak talks about a belief system (though no one knows what it is) whatever it is he needs to establish it and get his players to jump on board.

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