Game 64, Mariners at Cardinals

Dave · June 14, 2010 at 1:12 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

French vs Wainwright, 4:09 pm.

Welcome to the rotation, Mr. French – now meet Mr. Pujols. Good luck.

In a single game, anything can happen, but this is something like the mismatch to end all mismatches. Adam Wainwright is one of the best pitchers in baseball, and the Mariners are extremely unlikely to get much in the way of offense against him. Meanwhile, Luke French has to use his pitch-to-contact approach to try and get guys like Pujols, Matt Holiday, and Ryan Ludwick out. This could get really ugly.

Ichiro, RF
Figgins, 2B
Gutierrez, CF
Lopez, 3B
Bradley, LF
Josh Wilson, SS
Carp, 1B
Johnson, C
French, P


87 Responses to “Game 64, Mariners at Cardinals”

  1. MX on June 14th, 2010 5:05 pm

    Why can’t Johnson stay on the plate?

  2. GoldenGutz on June 14th, 2010 5:15 pm

    I dont even know how the Pirate fans deal with this for so long.

  3. Hammy57 on June 14th, 2010 5:21 pm

    Our team is a circus.

  4. Mahoney5500 on June 14th, 2010 5:22 pm

    The Pirates have fans?

  5. joser on June 14th, 2010 5:24 pm

    Actually, the FSN M’s broadcast the past couple of years has shown BABiP on occasion, and they will sometimes caveat stats with comments about sample size. I haven’t heard wOBA mentioned yet (other than Blengino running through it on one of his “stat of the week” segments during the offseason), but there was a Sunday night ESPN radio national broadcast earlier this year where they mentioned UZR. My jaw dropped so far it hit the steering wheel and I just about drove off the road.

    It’s only a matter of time. When the front offices are talking about it, the broadcasters eventually come around. Though we may have to wait for some of them to be carried out of the booth feet first.

    Also: who you calling a nerd, Willis?

  6. DMZ on June 14th, 2010 5:32 pm

    And to expand on that — you’ll see teams talk about advanced stats when those stats cast their team in a positive light. One of the reasons they’ll talk about UZR and defensive statistics is because Guti is so absolutely amazing and they want fans to understand and be excited about it.

    They’re not going to spend a lot of effort talking up OBP when the lineup is… like ours, for instance.

  7. MX on June 14th, 2010 5:36 pm

    I just love to watch Ian Snell pitch. Never get bored.

  8. SODOMOJO360 on June 14th, 2010 5:37 pm

    why the funk is Snell still on the team let alone being allowed to pitch??????????? Way to represent on national tv!

  9. DMZ on June 14th, 2010 5:37 pm

  10. Rusty on June 14th, 2010 5:37 pm

    This could get really ugly.

    Looks like we just entered ugly territory.

  11. SODOMOJO360 on June 14th, 2010 5:38 pm

    pitcher almost went yard. Time to cut his asssss

  12. djw on June 14th, 2010 5:38 pm

    Dang, I was rooting for Wainwright to hit that out. That would have nicely punctuated what is quite possibly Snell’s swan song for the M’s.

  13. Nate on June 14th, 2010 5:40 pm

    tham thar Snell fellow is a GUUD PITCHUR!

  14. jeffcor13 on June 14th, 2010 5:42 pm

    This ump has a postage stamp size strike zone on our pitchers…we still suck tho
    Could Pujols have been called out on interference on that throw? I feel like he was hit because he was on the grass a little bit…maybe not though
    bye bye snell

  15. Spanky on June 14th, 2010 5:45 pm

    I’m watching online but could anyone tell if Puljos was inside the foul line or not? The replays shown online looked like he was and therefore…out!

  16. Hud67 on June 14th, 2010 5:46 pm

    It sure seems like the M’s have been averaging about 2 errors a game.

  17. jeffcor13 on June 14th, 2010 5:49 pm

    I’m watching online but could anyone tell if Puljos was inside the foul line or not? The replays shown online looked like he was and therefore…out!

    No, it was from a throw off Lopez, so whether he was in the foul line or not doesnt matter…he was probably right on the inside of the foul line, but it looked like he was well within the base line. Had it been off a hit from the batter, then it would matter

  18. GripS on June 14th, 2010 5:53 pm

    I totally didn’t see that DP ball from Lopez coming. Not at all.

  19. BleedsPurple_74 on June 14th, 2010 5:56 pm

    Man,if this little showing by Ian Snell doesn’t get him DFA’d after his prior performance, I don’t know what the heck will.

    What is Wak thinking here, putting this guy in to pitch? Isn’t Garrett Olson available? I mean, just about ANYBODY would be better than Snell. We were only down two runs.

    This is embarrassing, man. Really, Really embarrassing.

  20. msb on June 14th, 2010 6:11 pm

    This could get really ugly.


  21. GOB Bluth on June 14th, 2010 6:18 pm

    I know I’m a few innings late, but it looked like Frech was pitching at least alright, so why did Wak lift him after 4 innings for possibly the worst pitcher in baseball? I really can’t think of any tactical reasons for putting yourself in the best possible position to lose. It’s a good thing I gave up on this team a few weeks ago or I would be very frustrated right now.

  22. jephdood on June 14th, 2010 6:32 pm



  23. GOB Bluth on June 14th, 2010 6:37 pm

    Oh that’s acutally a very good point that I hadn’t thought about.

  24. dantheman on June 14th, 2010 6:52 pm

    Didn’t Ludwick touch the plate before Pujols went back and touched it (after being hit in the head with the throw from Lopez)? Why wouldn’t Ludwick be out for passing the runner (Pujols)?

  25. Axtell on June 14th, 2010 7:11 pm

    What I should have said in my post is the telecast on ESPN (and not ESPN3) they do a lot more talking about OBP and not so dependent upon old stats. Also, why don’t these broadcasts start to dabble and educate the TV audience of the simpler advanced stats like OPS and OBP? It couldn’t be that difficult to do.

  26. dantheman on June 14th, 2010 7:11 pm

    Saw the replay and Pujols slid over the plate. Looks like he only went back because he wasn’t sure if he touched it.

  27. CYK on June 14th, 2010 7:22 pm

    GOB Bluth–everything French gave up was a bullet. He was lucky to get any outs at all.

  28. inspiration100 on June 14th, 2010 7:27 pm

    And this did end up getting really ugly, really fast.

  29. DMZ on June 14th, 2010 7:28 pm

    That’s a tougher question. My immediate and cynical reaction is that ESPN as a giant conglomerate has little interest in advancing new statistics or any kind of thought that requires education, because SportsCenter is timed to within a second of its life, and there’s no time to do UZR explanations there, or PTI, or anywhere except maybe Baseball Tonight.

    At the same time ESPN is extremely heavily invested in baseball broadcast talent that is certainly unwilling and possibly unable to do that explanation. And here I don’t mean everyone, again — but that they’ve got a ton of money in on-air personalities who hate sabermetrics. Joe Miller could absolutely do this, for instance, but what’s the balance on the rest of their baseball crew?

  30. Henry on June 14th, 2010 7:29 pm

    When are we going to get a REAL first baseman


  31. CYK on June 14th, 2010 7:42 pm

    When are we going to get a REAL first baseman


    yes please!

  32. CYK on June 14th, 2010 7:46 pm
  33. GOB Bluth on June 14th, 2010 8:10 pm

    French may have been giving up bullets all night, but him on a bad day is still waaaaaaaay better then Snell. I guess my point isn’t why pull French, but why on earth is Ian Snell still on this roster. I understand that the season is over but he either needs to be in AAA (although I don’t know if thats an option) or he needs to be DFA’d. The guy is completly lost out there.

  34. Marinersmanjk on June 14th, 2010 8:40 pm

    Meh. They’re way down my list of teams I want to watch. I like the Cameroons and Ghanas of the tournament, countries where you know quite literally everything stops and everyone is watching the game (likely on someone else’s TV since they can’t afford one of their own). Even better to watch on Univision, where the commentary just washes over you in a passionate rain of vowels.

    I’m not so much a fan of good soccer as I am a fan of world soccer.

    Yea, but England’s my team so that’s really who I care about. And the U.S. sucks so there’s no point in routing for them when their best player in Landon Donavan. He’s terrible.

    On another note, another great loss. We’re well on our way to first pick freedom!

  35. jackshaw on June 14th, 2010 10:30 pm

    Any idea what happened to Adam Moore earlier tonight?

  36. Colm on June 15th, 2010 12:18 pm

    Oh well, bad luck Luke French:
    “‘Cause the last rabbit that took out and chased after an eagle didn’t come out so good and that’s why rabbits don’t chase after eagles, that’s all I
    know about rabbits and eagles”

  37. H23 on June 15th, 2010 1:11 pm

    Regarding the stories about Chipper Jones retiring, it’d be nice if the M’s had even a few ‘struggling’ players w/ these numbers:

    From today’s article: “This season has been even tougher for Jones, even though the Braves are leading the NL East. He’s battled injuries and was hitting just .228 with three homers and 22 RBIs…”

    If there was any truth to the rumors about Griffey being unhappy about his lack of playing time, it’s sad that he didn’t handle things as classy as it appears Jones is – and I’ve never been a Jones fan, it’s just nice to see someone realize when it’s time to hang ’em up.

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