Game 85, Yankees at Mariners

Dave · July 8, 2010 at 6:00 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Pettitte vs Vargas, 7:10 pm.

Always fun to start a four game series with the Yankees fresh on the heels of being swept by the Royals. Yeah.

Ichiro, RF
Figgins, 2B
Gutierrez, CF
Branyan, DH
Lopez, 3B
Kotchman, 1B
Bard, C
Josh Wilson, SS
Saunders, LF

Comments

99 Responses to “Game 85, Yankees at Mariners”

  1. mj42083 on July 8th, 2010 6:08 pm

    Well put Dave, at least we have Felix and Cliff pitching. Maybe we can win two games then. That is if Cliff is still a Mariner tomorrow.

  2. spankystout on July 8th, 2010 6:09 pm

    Holy crap Lopez is not batting fourth. Time for me to celebrate!

  3. Westside guy on July 8th, 2010 6:10 pm

    I guess it’s not all that important, but – I wonder why Saunders is back down in the 9 hole? He was on base twice yesterday.

  4. spankystout on July 8th, 2010 6:13 pm

    Will the Yanks give up Montero if Cliff dominates them again? Not to mention he is kind of blocked by Posada, Cervelli, A-rod, Texiera, Swisher and Nick Johnson (when he returns).

  5. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 6:15 pm

    Iguess it’s not all that important, but – I wonder why Saunders is back down in the 9 hole?

    Because they are facing a Left Handed Pitcher tonight … more than likely.

    Yes, I see other strong candidates from today’s line – who bat LH and should also be batting 9th … in some other teams lineup.

  6. ebbnflow on July 8th, 2010 6:16 pm

    I guess it’s not all that important, but – I wonder why Saunders is back down in the 9 hole? He was on base twice yesterday.

    Probably due to Pettitte being on the mound and Saunders having had a rough go versus lefties thus far in his pro career.

    (edit: Or what msfanmike said…!)

    Hm…decent lineup, roster limitations being what they are.

  7. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 6:21 pm

    Will the Yanks give up Montero if Cliff dominates them again? Not to mention he is kind of blocked by Posada, Cervelli, A-rod, Texiera, Swisher and Nick Johnson (when he returns).

    How much longer do you think Posada is going to catch? A year? If so, why would they trade their undoubtedly over-hyped prospect.

    The “buzz” on Montero is that he won’t likely stick as a C at the Major League Level – and subsequently, his value will decrease if he has to switch positions.

  8. spankystout on July 8th, 2010 6:31 pm

    I know that his projection moves him out of catching, hence me citing other players/positions that are filled that Montero is projected to end up at.

  9. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 6:38 pm

    Holy crap Lopez is not batting fourth. Time for me to celebrate!

    Amen brother!

  10. Diehard on July 8th, 2010 6:50 pm

    After the fine clinic of hitting Lopez put on last night he should be hitting 9th because he’s basically turned into Yuni 2.0

  11. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 6:56 pm

    Lee appeared on ESPN 710′s Brock and Salk earlier today, and said that he and his agent approached the Mariners about an extension before the season only to be told that the team wasn’t “going to go down that road.”

    If this is true, I am not proud to be an M’s fan.

  12. Chris_From_Bothell on July 8th, 2010 7:09 pm

    sodomojo360 – Larry Stone did some responsible follow-up on this one.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/marinersblog/2012312191_cliff_lee_elaborates_on_710_es.html#continue

  13. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:16 pm

    Lee appeared on ESPN 710’s Brock and Salk earlier today, and said that he and his agent approached the Mariners about an extension before the season only to be told that the team wasn’t “going to go down that road.”

    If this is true, I am not proud to be an M’s fan.

    Do you want to offer a $100M/5 contract to a 30+ year old pitcher?

  14. juneau_fan on July 8th, 2010 7:17 pm

    I can tell I’m already in a bad mood. Thanking a deity for a single, Swisher? Is that really necessary? I think that’s got to be one of my biggest pet peeves in sports, athletes believing their particular higher power gives a holy flying fig about their stats.

  15. spankystout on July 8th, 2010 7:18 pm

    wow that girl is really excited Ichiro touched her. I mean a Bay City Rollers style freak out

  16. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:21 pm

    I can tell I’m already in a bad mood. Thanking a deity for a single, Swisher? Is that really necessary? I think that’s got to be one of my biggest pet peeves in sports, athletes believing their particular higher power gives a holy flying fig about their stats.

    You should listen to the song “Best God in Show” by NOFX. I think you’d get a kick out of it.

  17. Chris_From_Bothell on July 8th, 2010 7:24 pm

    I think that’s got to be one of my biggest pet peeves in sports, athletes believing their particular higher power gives a holy flying fig about their stats.

    “Can we please silence these Christian athletes who praise God when they win – never mention him when they lose. You never hear, ‘Jesus made me drop the ball.’ ‘The Good Lord tripped me up at the line of scrimmage.’”

    - George Carlin

  18. spankystout on July 8th, 2010 7:27 pm

    Wow a Nofx reference on ussmariner by henrythefifth. Everybody is full of suprises today.

  19. juneau_fan on July 8th, 2010 7:28 pm

    I can’t tell which one of us is showing their age, spanky, you for the Bay City Rollers reference or me for knowing what you mean.

    Ichiro sure looked safe to me but maybe I see things through Ichivision.

  20. spankystout on July 8th, 2010 7:29 pm

    George Carlin, Nofx, and baseball?!?! Gotta love it

  21. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:30 pm

    Actually, It’s “Henry V”.

    But it’s all good.

  22. spankystout on July 8th, 2010 7:32 pm

    sorry to disappoint juneau_fan I’m 27. I love music more than the M’s and I recall the bay city rollers having more fan ‘faintings’ than the Beatles. I could be wrong but those fans were nuts, I mean futbol nuts!

  23. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 7:33 pm

    Do you want to offer a $100M/5 contract to a 30+ year old pitcher?

    Yes. He is a top 5 pitcher in this league and will be great until he is 36.

  24. juneau_fan on July 8th, 2010 7:33 pm

    darn Henry, some of the mystic is gone. I was always visualizing you as a Shakespearean English king, with one of those funky bowl haircuts.

  25. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 7:34 pm

    hence me citing other players/positions that are filled that Montero is projected to end up at.

    … where he will be less valuable becuase of how his offensive tools project in comparison to other prospects at those other positions.

    C, SS and CF are the most important defensive positions. A good bat at those positions (fielded competently) is hard to find. When you find one – those players are valuable. When a prospect has to move to some other “less valuable defensive position” a re-evaluation of that players overall value has to occur. Thus the jury is still out on what Montero’s value will truly be down the road (if a position switch has to occur).

    I have seen enough posts from you to believe that you already do know this, but I appreciate you helping me prove my point.

  26. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 7:38 pm

    sodomojo360 – Larry Stone did some responsible follow-up on this one.

    It just further backs up what Lee said. Yes he was injured before the season started but he said he wanted to talk extension before the season started and not during. Yes it’s taking a risk and it’s easy to say we should have done it now that he’s had a great season but I think he had done enough in the last couple of years to at least be considered for a contract. Lee said the M’s said we’re not going down that road right now.

  27. juneau_fan on July 8th, 2010 7:39 pm

    sorry to disappoint juneau_fan I’m 27.

    Great. Well, I’m old enough to have seen them on American Bandstand ‘live.’

    Why do the announcers need to have some ‘underdog’ on the team to root for? When we’re not hearing how tough Johnson is, and did you know he’s from Montana, now we’re hearing the glory this has been Kotchman for a whole five games.

  28. John D. on July 8th, 2010 7:41 pm

    I think that’s got to be one of my biggest pet peeves in sports, athletes believing their particular higher power gives a holy flying fig about their stats.

    W/R/T: See NO MORE MR. NICE GUY, Dick Williams’ book.

  29. EthanN on July 8th, 2010 7:46 pm

    I hope Vargas can throw 15 scoreless innings tonight. That might do the trick.

  30. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 7:46 pm

    Do you want to offer a $100M/5 contract to a 30+ year old pitcher?

    No – not if it’s my money. If it’s the M’s money (and it is) … sure, who cares, WTF – sign him.

    However, that is not reality – or at least the reality of the M’s self-imposed player salary budget.

    The contract signing history – of large sum, long duration contracts – for 30+ year old pitchers … is bad. Really bad. Galactically bad. Johan Santana bad. Kevin Millwood bad. They are better off having traded nothing to get him and to trade him for more value than they gave up … which it looks like they will be doing soon.

    Will Leee take a 3 year deal – avg $16M/yr … I doubt it. Would he be worth it … probably. Would the M’s even be willing to spend that much on him – all other contractual obligations considered – I doubt it.

  31. John D. on July 8th, 2010 7:47 pm

    NO MORE MR. NICE GUY,
    (See pp. 300-302)

    BTW, Wake me up for cough-up time; after seven, when we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  32. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:50 pm

    darn Henry, some of the mystic is gone. I was always visualizing you as a Shakespearean English king, with one of those funky bowl haircuts.

    Sorry about that.

    I always hated Shakespeare, too.

    Except the comedies. Comedy of Errors is great… However, it is just a knock off of the Greek play “The Brother Menichami”

  33. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:50 pm

    When does Swisher become a free agent?

  34. EthanN on July 8th, 2010 7:51 pm

    Shakespeare was probably one of the biggest plagiarizers you know

  35. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:53 pm

    .

    The contract signing history – of large sum, long duration contracts – for 30+ year old pitchers … is bad. Really bad. Galactically bad. Johan Santana bad. Kevin Millwood bad. They are better off having traded nothing to get him and to trade him for more value than they gave up … which it looks like they will be doing soon.

    Will Leee take a 3 year deal – avg $16M/yr … I doubt it. Would he be worth it … probably. Would the M’s even be willing to spend that much on him – all other contractual obligations considered – I doubt it.

    This is what I think as well.

    Lee is great, but unless you have a crystal ball, you can’t give him the money that a big market team is going to give him. And Jack knows this.

    We have 3 very large, long contracts out there right now, and if you tie another 20 mil per year into a pitcher, there isn’t going to be anything left.

  36. jdsc55 on July 8th, 2010 7:54 pm

    Remember when Josh Wilson was a .300 hitter?That was awesome…

  37. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:54 pm

    Shakespeare was probably one of the biggest plagiarizers you know

    Yeah, but he’s just following the the Roman tradition of copying plays from the Greeks.

    That is also what makes Juvenal so special. The guy basically single-handedly created a whole new form of comedy.

  38. henryv on July 8th, 2010 7:56 pm

    We are now tied for the worst slugging percentage in MLB.

    Damn we’re cool.

  39. EthanN on July 8th, 2010 7:58 pm

    How the hell did someone have a lower slugging percentage than us?

  40. Leroy Stanton on July 8th, 2010 8:02 pm

    Remember when Josh Wilson was a .300 hitter?That was awesome…

    No, I don’t. But I remember when he was hitting .300 and it was awesome! :)

  41. henryv on July 8th, 2010 8:05 pm

    How the hell did someone have a lower slugging percentage than us?

    The Houston Astros.

  42. Snarf15 on July 8th, 2010 8:06 pm

    From someone who doesn’t know a lot about prospects, who is the best possible centerpiece for our club (for Lee)? Smoak, Ramos, Montero or someone else? I do think it would be cool to steal Smoak from Texas but I’m no expert.

  43. Leroy Stanton on July 8th, 2010 8:06 pm

    … or at least the reality of the M’s self-imposed player salary budget.

    I’ve been seeing people use that a lot lately. What is the distinction? Aren’t other teams’ budgets “self-imposed”?

  44. henryv on July 8th, 2010 8:07 pm

    We have the second-lowest OPS, just ahead of them.

    If we have a good week we MAY chase down the Pittsburgh Pirates.

    Yeah.

  45. lalo on July 8th, 2010 8:07 pm

    Smoak and Branyan could be a nice couple in the spot 4 and 5 of our lineup, I hope this trade is made, or Chris Davis at least….

  46. henryv on July 8th, 2010 8:09 pm

    I’ve been seeing people use that a lot lately. What is the distinction? Aren’t other teams’ budgets “self-imposed”?

    Yes, but most team’s aren’t profitable year-to-year like the M’s.

    They are limited by their business’ ability to generate income. Ours would seem to be more artificially limited.

  47. Breadbaker on July 8th, 2010 8:25 pm

    Of course it was Alonzo Powell working with him that caused Kotchman to finally heat up a little bit. Not regression to the mean. Of course. Thanks for clearing that up, Dave Sims.

  48. henryv on July 8th, 2010 8:25 pm

    No post for 15 minutes? People just give up?

  49. Coug1990 on July 8th, 2010 8:25 pm

    I agree. The Mariners stick to their budget and it has gone down significantly the last two years in a row. All teams have budgets, but some teams will temporarily go over and make it up later. The Mariners from what I have read, do not go over at all.

    I also wonder when the stadium debt service is retired, will the ownership put that money into the team or will they just take bigger profits.

  50. henryv on July 8th, 2010 8:36 pm

    We have hit 3 balls out of the infield.

    3.

  51. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 8:39 pm

    Old school baseball baby

  52. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 8:41 pm

    Figgy will still find a way to ground into double play

  53. KPS on July 8th, 2010 8:48 pm

    Lopez leaves the bases loaded… what’s new?

  54. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 8:48 pm

    JOSE SUCKSSSSSSS

  55. IwearMsHats on July 8th, 2010 8:49 pm

    LOPEZ IS SUCH A GREAT HITTER! At least he struck out swinging as opposed to Branyan striking out on a pitch off the plate inside about 2 feetlooking!

  56. nvn8vbryce on July 8th, 2010 8:49 pm

    Buck Lopez. That’s all I have to say.

  57. juneau_fan on July 8th, 2010 8:51 pm

    Is someone keeping a stat for how often the Mariners leave the bases loaded this season?

  58. lalo on July 8th, 2010 8:51 pm

    Not is supposed Ronny Cedeño was traded last year? Oh, is Jose Lopez, sorry!!!!

  59. jordan on July 8th, 2010 8:55 pm

    Kotchman broke those kids heart… little did they know he didn’t even have the ball. haha

  60. JerBear on July 8th, 2010 8:55 pm

    I can tell I’m already in a bad mood. Thanking a deity for a single, Swisher? Is that really necessary?

    I totally get the sentiment, but I would just say that before you rush to judgment, consider that lots of athletes point to the sky in honor of some deceased relative or friend (i.e. “this one’s for you” sort of deal.) I don’t know what Swisher’s personal motivation for the gesture is, but there’s no sense in lambasting him either way.

    Lots of people thought Felix was being cocky when he started kissing each of his arms after a win, until Drayer informed them it was because he had his kids’ names tattooed there on his wrists and was doing it for them. Strange, maybe, but no big deal.

  61. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 9:02 pm

    Please put Vargas back out there, our bullpen is bad

  62. Breadbaker on July 8th, 2010 9:32 pm

    Hint to Wak: sit Lopez.

  63. Diehard on July 8th, 2010 9:32 pm

    How many times does that dumb ass Lopez have to swing at the first pitch???????????????

  64. Rick Banjo on July 8th, 2010 9:33 pm

    This article, the first I’ve read from GB since he porked the pony on his Edgar vote, made me swear in front of my 3 year-old.

    I hope, hope, hope that it’s a lot of hype on Baker’s part, and much more daydream than reality. Otherwise it stings worse than being swept by KC.

  65. lalo on July 8th, 2010 9:34 pm

    OH NO!!! DA is in the game, game over

    My prediction , 2 BB and a 3 run HR

  66. Hopmacker on July 8th, 2010 9:37 pm

    Rick Banjo, I believe that entry was from Larry Stone.

  67. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 9:41 pm

    Get a 2nd pitch Aardvark!!

  68. henryv on July 8th, 2010 9:42 pm

    The only place with a worse DA then Thurston County is Safeco Field.

  69. Breadbaker on July 8th, 2010 9:43 pm

    Aardsma is about as effective as the BP oil spill program.

  70. lalo on July 8th, 2010 9:46 pm

    How many times DA is going to lose a game in the ninth this year? I hope Jack Z includes him in a package with Cliff Lee

  71. henryv on July 8th, 2010 9:46 pm

    DA apparently stands for Double A.

  72. IwearMsHats on July 8th, 2010 9:48 pm

    Gotta love meaningless baseball before the allstar break.

  73. Rick Banjo on July 8th, 2010 9:48 pm

    Rick Banjo, I believe that entry was from Larry Stone.

    I stand corrected. Just saw Baker’s face, and, well…

    Grr. Now I just want to kick DA in the nuts until he learns another pitch than the flatball.

  74. 14limes on July 8th, 2010 9:48 pm

    Can somebody explain to me how, in a tie game, with two out in the ninth, and first base open, and a non-closing closer, YOU PITCH TO ALEX RODRIGUEZ?

    Gah. That’s just… gah. Welcome back to Seattle, me.

  75. lalo on July 8th, 2010 9:49 pm

    Too late DA, you and your fastball sucks

  76. Diehard on July 8th, 2010 9:49 pm

    Ugh this bullpen is a mitigated disaster.

    Our two best relievers are scared to throw anything other than a freaking fastball.

  77. Diehard on July 8th, 2010 9:51 pm

    I am going to the game on Saturday and I don’t think I’ve ever been so unexcited to go to Safeco. This year has been terrible with a capital T. I am going to be doing a lot of booing on Saturday, that’s a guarantee.

  78. IwearMsHats on July 8th, 2010 9:54 pm

    I am going to the game on Saturday and I don’t think I’ve ever been so unexcited to go to Safeco. This year has been terrible with a capital T. I am going to be doing a lot of booing on Saturday, that’s a guarantee.

    It’s not all bad…Felix is pitching.

  79. lalo on July 8th, 2010 9:55 pm

    Is the best AB in the career of Kotch, I think!

  80. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 9:56 pm

    You stick to your guns David Aardsma … and someday you are just bound to get A-Rod out by attempting to throw straight fastballs by him. Please do make sure you walk the potential go-ahead run first though … so we can have a true apples to apples comparison of data points.

  81. r-gordon-7 on July 8th, 2010 9:58 pm

    It’s not all bad…Felix is pitching

    But unless it’s a CG, we sorta’ know the outcome already, don’t we…

  82. SODOMOJO360 on July 8th, 2010 9:59 pm

    I am going to the game on Saturday and I don’t think I’ve ever been so unexcited to go to Safeco. This year has been terrible with a capital T. I am going to be doing a lot of booing on Saturday, that’s a guarantee.

    At least you don’t have to see the Hyphen vs. C.C. on Sunday like myself

  83. lalo on July 8th, 2010 9:59 pm

    It’s not all bad…Felix is pitching.

    I agree when Felix or Lee pitch the M´s are like a winner season, you enjoy the Felix Hernandez gem

  84. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 10:01 pm

    I’ve been seeing people use that a lot lately. What is the distinction? Aren’t other teams’ budgets “self-imposed”?

    No real distinction to be made … simply an overstatement of the obvious. Establish a budget at a higher threshold and either lower the profit margin or increase the loss. Either way, they set it – they sell/spin it … and we either buy the reasons for it or we don’t.

  85. Snarf15 on July 8th, 2010 10:06 pm

    I don’t understand how our catchers can mix up pitches with Vargas and Sweeney, then exclusively call fastballs with Aardsma. It’s ridiculous. All the batter has to do is sit on that fastball. I think Wetteland might be telling our bullpen to keep pumping in these fastballs. Its not like Aardsma has pinpoint control or great movement either. I think Aardsma could be great if he gave the hitters something to at least see besides just the fastball. Throw that split more man!

  86. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 10:09 pm

    I don’t understand how our catchers can mix up pitches with Vargas and Sweeney, then exclusively call fastballs with Aardsma.

    There is only one good reason … while simiultaneously being a bad circumstance. Aardsma only has one “pitch” although he is not really a pitcher. He is a thrower. Big distinction. Molly Putz and Peter Pan cannot hit the straight heat, but Major League players (vice several on our team) can.

  87. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 10:11 pm

    There is only one good reason … while simiultaneously being a bad circumstance. Aardsma only has one “pitch” although he is not really a pitcher

    Good point Mike. I wish I had said that.

    I am either really pissed – or on my way to the yellow pages to find a good therapist. I will go with pissed – I guess. I have seen the same movie so many times over the past few months that I (as can you) predict the outcome every time.

  88. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 10:14 pm

    The best part of tonights game had to be the giggle-gasm by the 18 year old girl who got “touched” by Ichiro. Did she ever, in fact, calm down? Was she about 18? That was a long time ago for me, so I am strictly guessing on the age. Something younger than my step daughters is the best I can guess. There was no xFIP or UZR stat to use as a comparison point – so someone help me out here. What is the record for one person having consecutive posts? Whatever it is, I do not plan to establish a new record.

    Hello …………….. anybody?!

  89. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 10:19 pm

    My dog has to be let out to go pee now. I have to iron pants for work too.

    “Hank Aaron, George Brett, Nolan Ryan, Dick Clark, Elton John, James Dean, Woody Allen, Matt Damon, Rick Barry, Michael Douglas, Billy Martin, Ray Charles, Don James … Billy Joel, Jimmy Stewart, Bob Dillon” …………….. and the incomparable Dave Cameron

    Nothing? … Okay – good night

  90. pareto on July 8th, 2010 10:25 pm

    Leaving the park tonight, I saw the most embarrassing t-shirt. It read “rob johnson fan club.” My night is complete.

  91. henryv on July 8th, 2010 10:26 pm

    Establish a budget at a higher threshold and either lower the profit margin or increase the loss. Either way, they set it – they sell/spin it … and we either buy the reasons for it or we don’t.

    If we keep chowing down on the bulls—, they’ll keep selling it to us. Just ask the iPhone users.

    The Bellevue Pinkhats love it. Cute commercials, hydroraces and dancing ground crews.

    And the worst part is we’re about to go into a year where all 3 of our major sports teams are currently or going to be bad. The Huskies basketball team is the only thing that will be remotely enjoyable. Maybe the UW Lockers sneak into the San Diego Credit Union Bowl…

    This sucks.

  92. henryv on July 8th, 2010 10:40 pm

    Wak should put up the following line-up card tomorrow:

    Ichiro! – RF
    Chode Figgins – “2B”
    Death to flying things, mostly – CF
    Last Gasp Trade – DH
    Fat Kid Who Can’t Hit – “3B”
    Next Stop Coaching – 1B
    “Catcher”
    Mendoza/DL – SS
    Shouldn’t be Hitting 9th – LF

    Closer:
    Double A

    Bench:
    What Bench?

    Bullpen:
    Is Bobby Ayala still around? What about Bob Wolcott?

  93. msfanmike on July 8th, 2010 10:56 pm

    Wak should put up the following line-up card tomorrow:

    I loved it … all of it. Funny you chose the word “chode.” I have been using it a lot lately … and have known/understood its meaning since my second grade teacher made a kid stay after school for saying it to someone in 1972.

    I have also noticed the slight loss of speed in DTFT. The extra weight is doing him no good, he has not improved since last year – and his power is not any better. I wonder if he is still nursing some injuries. Either way, he has not progressed since last year, although he is about the least of our worries/issues/concerns at this point. He is simply not a #3 hole hitter. He should be hitting 6th or 7th. In a real lineup – he would be.

    There have been some real idiots calling into the post game radio show tonight. Good thing Shannon is there. I think Salk cut a guy off a few minutes ago out of nothing more than pure pity for the dudes’ drunkeness. I wonder how many times the drunk dude posted this evening?

  94. kenshabby on July 8th, 2010 11:09 pm

    Bloody ‘ell our bullpen sucks. May as well DFA most of them and use pitching machines instead.

  95. henryv on July 8th, 2010 11:58 pm

    Bloody ‘ell our bullpen sucks. May as well DFA most of them and use pitching machines instead.

    Pitching machines wouldn’t walk as many, either.

  96. spankystout on July 9th, 2010 12:50 am

    I hate the damn Yankees, and their crappy musical……..oh yeah can’t forget the 80′s buttrock band.

  97. pinball1973 on July 9th, 2010 1:07 am

    This is “The Year They ALWAYS Found a Particularly Disappointing Way to Lose”.?It is less infuriating than seeing Jones go and knowing – and being right – what that meant but it has someone hurt even more.

  98. LongDistance on July 9th, 2010 6:17 am

    OK… this isn’t the place for it, and there will soon enough be an official post covering it, but…

    Cliff Lee + the Yankees.

    Of ALL of the possibilities, why, oh, why does it have to be… them.

    This year, in so many ways, has torn my heart out…

  99. msfanmike on July 9th, 2010 9:15 am

    Of ALL of the possibilities, why, oh, why does it have to be… them.

    Because the rich get richer. Our country was founded on the principal.

    I wonder how Cleveland feels … they used to have both Lee and Sabathia too – and oh yeah, they used to have Lebron James.

    In an effort to “untear” your heart LD: It could be worse, we could be Cleveland. Best I got.

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