Game 89, Mariners at Angels

Dave · July 15, 2010 at 4:34 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Fister vs Pineiro, 7:05 pm.

I’m back in NC after my weekend at the All-Star Game, and will resume posting as regular again. Thanks for bearing with us, though Jay and Marc did a great job while I was gone.

As for the M’s, the second half of the season sees the focus officially shift to the future, so expect to see Smoak and Saunders in the line-up pretty much every day, as they are today.

Ichiro, RF
Figgins, 2B
Gutierrez, CF
Lopez, 3B
Bradley, DH
Smoak, 1B
Saunders, LF
Johnson, C
Jack Wilson, SS

Comments

76 Responses to “Game 89, Mariners at Angels”

  1. lokiforever on July 15th, 2010 4:36 pm

    Why no Branyan tonight? I could see it if there was a lefty on the mound.

  2. Mousse on July 15th, 2010 4:50 pm

    Smoak, Branyan, Bradley, Kotchman. When Sweeney comes off the DL, our 1B/DH pentafecta will finally be complete.

  3. DC on July 15th, 2010 4:55 pm

    Sherrill if he clears waivers?

  4. shortbus on July 15th, 2010 5:19 pm

    Bummer you couldn’t stick around in LA for the game. Smoak!!

    Mousse really nailed the million dollar question…what in the world are the M’s going to do with all their 1B/DH guys?

  5. joser on July 15th, 2010 5:31 pm

    Well, Smoak is the 1B of the future and Bradley is still on the team next year (barring a “sunk cost” release or absolute insanity on the part of some other GM) so Branyan is kind of the odd man out. I suspect Wak will alternate them since he seems to favor giving playing time to guys on the roster whether they deserve it or not. He just happened to start with the post-break schedule with Bradley.

  6. joser on July 15th, 2010 5:42 pm

    You know, there could be a heck of a nice-hitting infield in, oh, 2012 or so. Start working on your poems:
    Ruthlessly pricking their gonfalon bubble,
    Slugging home runs, triples and doubles
    A lineup that brings the AL West trouble:
    Franklin to Ackley to Smoak

    And Figgins.

    Hmmm, one of these things is not like the others.

  7. Chris_From_Bothell on July 15th, 2010 5:57 pm

    the second half of the season sees the focus officially shift to the future

    I wouldn’t object to it shifting Lopez lower down in the order. Or shifting Johnson and Wilson out entirely.

    Still. Smoak & Saunders! Sounds like a law firm.

  8. greentunic on July 15th, 2010 6:02 pm

    What can anyone tell me about the signings of Phillips Castillo, Jose Torres, and Yordyn Calderon?

    MLBTR (sorry if you don’t like the site) says we signed them and that Castillo is not too bad. But I see little published about them or the signings. Any input?

  9. wetzelcoatl on July 15th, 2010 6:03 pm

    Or shifting Johnson and Wilson out entirely.

    While I agree with the sentiment here I don’t see what prospects we have even close to ready to take on those positions at the major league level, unless you think Tui is our Shortstop of the future.

  10. spankystout on July 15th, 2010 6:03 pm

    Ugh, Erik Bedard a.k.a. Mr.Glass felt more ‘shoulder discomfort’ playing catch, and is now heading to see his Doctor.

  11. groundzero55 on July 15th, 2010 6:07 pm

    Why no Branyan tonight?

    Injured. Hotel table fell on his foot. Go figure with our luck. It’s on Rotoworld but that’s about all there is to the story.

  12. Jeff Nye on July 15th, 2010 6:10 pm

    Oh, goody, Lopez batting cleanup again!

  13. spankystout on July 15th, 2010 6:13 pm

    greentunic

    Prospect Insider said Castillo has a plus-arm, plus-bat speed, and plus-power. Apparently he isn’t fast, or that great defensively. They compare him to Jose Guillen, with better power, and an arm not as good as Guillen, but still a plus.

  14. shortbus on July 15th, 2010 6:18 pm

    Drayer’s Tweet on Branyan says he’s day to day.

  15. greentunic on July 15th, 2010 6:26 pm

    Spanky

    I like to hear it. haha. Here’s hoping right? I’ll have to check the Minor league teams soon to see him in action.

  16. joser on July 15th, 2010 6:30 pm

    Injured. Hotel table fell on his foot.

    Presumably that table lives in the same hotel as Sasaki’s “luggage”?

    Ah, bar stools and spider dreams and truck washing, oh my.

    I was carrying deer meat up the stairs. Really. And I was ironing the shirt while I was wearing it, too.

  17. msfanmike on July 15th, 2010 6:44 pm

    @ Joser:

    Your 5:42 post: Nicely done!

    Gonfalon Bubble? – that isn’t the type of phrase usually pulled out of one’s own orifice.

  18. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 6:45 pm

    Haha, Branyan got in a fight with a table and hurt his toe. Come on man.

  19. greentunic on July 15th, 2010 6:51 pm

    My, how the tables have turned over…

  20. Paul B on July 15th, 2010 6:52 pm

    since he seems to favor giving playing time to guys on the roster whether they deserve it or not

    Langerhans says “hi”.

  21. Peekay_ on July 15th, 2010 6:53 pm

    Dave, any chance you will be doing a detailed write up (either here or Fangraphs) on the Lee trade?

    I appreciate alot of other people have already covered it in detail however your insight is always worth a read.

  22. Carson on July 15th, 2010 7:02 pm

    Stay clear of radio. Dave is on vacation, and there has been a Ron Fairly sighting.

  23. Paul B on July 15th, 2010 7:12 pm

    Fangraphs says there are no games being played today. Or I clicked on the wrong thing.

  24. spankystout on July 15th, 2010 7:12 pm

    greentunic

    There is an 8 minute workout video of Philips Castillo on youtube. It was an interesting watch. He obviously needs to work on fielding groundballs in the outfield. He muffs the first two and bobbled a few more. Pretty much everything Prospect Insider said looks correct. The only thing I would add is I liked how many pitches he laid off of during his BP session in the vid. Most 16 year olds hack like Vladi Guerrero.

  25. Chris_From_Bothell on July 15th, 2010 7:12 pm

    I don’t see what prospects we have even close to ready to take on those positions at the major league level, unless you think Tui is our Shortstop of the future.

    This is a time to get Moore some playing time again.

    And true, we have no shortstop of the future waiting anywhere in the system. But I’d take Josh Wilson, possibly even Tui in small doses, over Jack Wilson. Unless Jack is somehow going to stay healthy for the next 3 months.

  26. Carson on July 15th, 2010 7:13 pm

    Sweet, Tim Tschida and his super fair and consistent strike zone!

  27. Slippery Elmer on July 15th, 2010 7:13 pm

    Holy flapjacks — am I having another acid flashback? I swear to felch I hear Ron Fairly’s voice on my radio.

    Going to change the batteries.

  28. Paul B on July 15th, 2010 7:14 pm

    Holy flapjacks — am I having another acid flashback? I swear to felch I hear Ron Fairly’s voice on my radio. I think I need to change the batteries.

    Aliens. Aliens have rebroadcast old Mariner games from a distant star, and you are receiving the signal now. As in the movie Contact.

  29. Slippery Elmer on July 15th, 2010 7:16 pm

    Ding dong, the witch ain’t dead. What did we do to deserve this resurretchion?

  30. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 7:19 pm

    And true, we have no shortstop of the future waiting anywhere in the system.

    Franklin, SS, the other 2009 1st round draft pick has 15 HR’s and 15 SB’s in Clinton, A ball and is just 19. So I wouldn’t say there is NO shortstop of the future ANYWHERE in the system.

  31. Chris_From_Bothell on July 15th, 2010 7:22 pm

    Fair point about Franklin. But a lot can happen between A ball and the major league team.

  32. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 7:23 pm

    True Chris but at 19 this is a promising kid.

  33. Marinersmanjk on July 15th, 2010 7:25 pm

    Franklin, SS, the other 2009 1st round draft pick has 15 HR’s and 15 SB’s in Clinton, A ball and is just 19.

    Franklin won’t be ready until probably late 2012 at the earliest. Just because he’s tearing up A ball doesn’t mean he’s going to be a lock. Though his numbers do look promising.

  34. joser on July 15th, 2010 7:27 pm

    Thanks, but that’s because I didn’t pull it from mine own orifice. I pulled it from Algonquin “Round Table” regular Franklin Pierce Adams, who penned the original “Tinkers to Evers to Chance” (“Baseball’s Sad Lexicon“). (But since we don’t know how the putative M’s infield will field, and we find ourselves today yearning for offense, I recast it as a 2-3-4 lineup rather than a double-play combo.)

  35. Chris_From_Bothell on July 15th, 2010 7:28 pm

    Well, let’s hope.

    In the meantime, would be nice to have someone there other than Tui, Josh or Hamstrings McGee for the next 3 years. Someone who isn’t an automatic out and can actually stay healthy for most of a season.

  36. Marinersmanjk on July 15th, 2010 7:29 pm

    It may just be me, but Smoak’s batting stance doesn’t look anything like Teixeira’s Dave Sims.

  37. greentunic on July 15th, 2010 7:33 pm

    Haha! Ackley homer first AB

  38. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 7:34 pm

    Ackley goes yard in 1st AB in Tacoma!

  39. Chris_From_Bothell on July 15th, 2010 7:39 pm

    Alright Ackley!

  40. joser on July 15th, 2010 7:41 pm

    Yeah, you’ll notice I included Franklin in my “could be” 2012 infield. A lot can happen between now and then, of course.

    It’s funny how even though Jay provides an extensive post every week about the minor league system, there are folks who insist the entire thing is barren of any talent save Ackley and Pineda (assuming they’ve heard of even them). Sure, most of those prospects will never even see the big leagues much less be impact players; still, that’s hardly a reason to dismiss the entire farm as a sterile desert. But I guess it’s perversely comforting to inoculate ourselves from future disappointment with “they always get better after they leave” and “they always get worse when they arrive” preemptive pessimism. Especially in a year like this one when spring’s high-kindled optimism has already burned through to mid-summer ashes.

  41. Chris_From_Bothell on July 15th, 2010 7:46 pm

    But I guess it’s perversely comforting to inoculate ourselves from future disappointment

    That’s pretty much where I’m coming from, yup. Don’t mean to discount Jay’s excellent work to keep us up to date on how the minor leaguers are progressing…

  42. juneau_fan on July 15th, 2010 7:47 pm

    Will these last two stars finally shut up the talk that Fister’s some hidden treasure?

    Oh wait, it means we’re going to have to hear our on air crew wonder ‘what went wrong?’

  43. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 7:49 pm

    Geez Sims can we show a little more emotion. That was a crazy throw by Ichiro!

  44. juneau_fan on July 15th, 2010 7:50 pm

    And Johnson finally got someone out at home! Sims should’ve flipped his hat!

  45. lalo on July 15th, 2010 7:51 pm

    We need a catcher, do you think Aardsma + 1 prospect is enough to adquire Wilson Ramos?

  46. joser on July 15th, 2010 7:53 pm

    So who’s the ex-Mariner with the best commercials? Not Moyer. Not Buhner. How about Randy Freaking Johnson? (I wonder though what Tim thinks about the EA announcer referring to little Tim’s little unit as a “minor detail”?)

    Though I guess for pure sentimentality you can’t top Junior (with special guest voice Rick Rizzs!).

  47. groundzero55 on July 15th, 2010 7:58 pm

    We need a catcher, do you think Aardsma + 1 prospect is enough to adquire Wilson Ramos?

    What makes you think anybody wants our castoffs? It worked in MVP 2005 for X-Box but this is real life.

  48. Breadbaker on July 15th, 2010 8:01 pm

    Fister’s motto tonight: 0-2, so what?

  49. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 8:02 pm

    We need a catcher, do you think Aardsma + 1 prospect is enough to adquire Wilson Ramos?

    Hell no. Aardvark blows and the twins have a pretty good bullpen.

  50. lalo on July 15th, 2010 8:13 pm

    Another strikeout, Smoak should take time in Tacoma, and return in September a little more relaxed …

  51. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 8:19 pm

    I agree Lalo. There’s too much pressure on him to produce knowing the franchise is banking on him after getting traded for one of the best pitchers in the game. The Rangers rushed him to the bigs and he needs to build some confidence

  52. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 8:20 pm

    Though getting him major league experience this year could be good for next year since we are out of the race this year.

  53. lalo on July 15th, 2010 8:23 pm

    Thank you Ichi!!!

  54. juneau_fan on July 15th, 2010 8:24 pm

    Yeah, it’s freakin’ Pineiro, not Randy Johnson! Thank you, Ichiro!

    “Big spot for Figgins.” Can we just give up on that? Thanks.

  55. Dave Spiwak on July 15th, 2010 8:25 pm

    To borrow a line from Dave. Abreu looked like he’s got a piano on his back in right.

  56. Marinersmanjk on July 15th, 2010 8:32 pm

    What makes you think anybody wants our castoffs? It worked in MVP 2005 for X-Box but this is real life.

    Greatest game ever made. Period.

  57. groundzero55 on July 15th, 2010 8:39 pm

    I was an addict. And then they changed the game and it never appealed to me since.

  58. SODOMOJO360 on July 15th, 2010 8:44 pm

    Damn Smoakey just missed it!

  59. juneau_fan on July 15th, 2010 9:22 pm

    Welcome to the team, Wright. *groan*

  60. jephdood on July 15th, 2010 9:25 pm

    I’m not sure I can take another year of Milton Bradley on this team. Any possibility he’s released despite his salary?

  61. lalo on July 15th, 2010 9:26 pm

    Wow, is awful, what a surprise, in the M´s…

  62. nvn8vbryce on July 15th, 2010 9:37 pm

    Lalo, ya know we can’t expect more of the team when our DH – a professional H – can’t H. Any time you see a DH that’s hitting the Mendoza line, you have issues.

  63. juneau_fan on July 15th, 2010 9:38 pm

    This bullpen is awful. Horror and fear should not be my reaction at every new pitcher brought in.

    Olson??? AEEEIIII!!!

  64. lalo on July 15th, 2010 9:42 pm

    I’m not sure I can take another year of Milton Bradley on this team. Any possibility he’s released despite his salary?

    Probably, because he has not been 100%, and the only thing that would happen if he continues, would take away playing time of Saunders, Branyan or Smoak, and we do not want

  65. jephdood on July 15th, 2010 9:46 pm

    What is that, 3 more K’s for Smoak? Oy.

  66. juneau_fan on July 15th, 2010 9:48 pm

    What is that, 3 more K’s for Smoak? Oy.

    So much better to see Kotchman ground out? It’s still an out. Oh right, sometimes Kotchman would move a runner over where they could be stranded.

  67. Marinersmanjk on July 15th, 2010 9:50 pm

    It doesn’t help that Smoak feels like he has to produce for his new club and immediatly has to face the Yankees and Angels.

  68. Carson on July 15th, 2010 9:51 pm

    Did Tschida ring up Jack on strike one there?

    That strike call was severely more animated than his others during the game.

  69. Marinersmanjk on July 15th, 2010 9:59 pm

    Bill Krueger when talking about Felix… “He’s the American League Roy Halladay with a lot better stuff”. Felix is god but really? Why does Krueger always talk out of his ass?

  70. SonOfZavaras on July 15th, 2010 10:11 pm

    Felix does not have Halladay’s command. Or his poise. That’s ass-smokery all right. Stuff-wise, the comparison flies a little better.

    As far as Smoak goes, right now he’s a classic case of even his level swings are meant to hit the ball sixteen miles. He knows what he was brought in for and is trying very hard to show the org they didn’t make a mistake.

    But I’m thinking the problem is that pitchers know how to get him out considerably better than what he knows how the pitchers are working him. They’re keeping him off-balance and even moreso keeping the ball down… and he’s extending his strike zone that direction.

    No matter how bad we want to see the awesomeness we traded for and how soon, this is going to be an educational 2nd-half for Smoak.

    I just don’t know…is he better off augmenting his education in AAA-Tacoma, and coming back up in September? We have enough 1B bodies to get by to do that. Or do they allow him to take major-league ABs and live with the growing pains?

    I lean towards the latter, but I just don’t know. The bigs is not fundamentally a development league.

  71. terry on July 15th, 2010 10:27 pm

    Jeeps this team is so dull…actually, its worse than that, its a blackhole that actually sucks the joy out of watching baseball…

  72. Westside guy on July 15th, 2010 10:41 pm

    What’s going on with Bradley? I know this is anecdotal, but it sure looks to me like he’s seeing maybe two pitches per at bat – and that’s only when he swings and misses the first pitch.

  73. SonOfZavaras on July 16th, 2010 12:35 am

    What’s going on with Bradley? I know this is anecdotal, but it sure looks to me like he’s seeing maybe two pitches per at bat – and that’s only when he swings and misses the first pitch.

    You know what I’m thinking, more and more?

    His eyesight is less than what it was.

    His bat speed seems to be there, still. The reflexes, still okay. But I think his eyes aren’t focusing like they used to.

    I could well be wrong. But that’s my #1 suspicion regarding Milton Bradley.

    If we hear “Milton Bradley” and “LASIK” in the same sentence during the off-season…

  74. jjracoon on July 16th, 2010 6:06 am

    If the Angels dont have enugh reason to beat up on us, isnt our first round pick going to them???
    Looking like a top 5 pick easily and with Baltimore and Cleveland winning a little more maybe top three. That said, What makes Smoak better than Carp?? And how do you compare those skills?? Seems like Carp has more patience at the plate?? I know Smoak is a switch hitter and a big boy with decent defensive skills (saw that last night) but he reminds me of Jeff Clements at the plate!!!
    For our enjoyment, I think Wak should make sure that Felix is matched up against the other teams number 5 starter so at least we can look forward to one win every five games!! Yeah, I jumped ship!
    Splash!!!! Go 2011!!!!BRING UP PINEDA AND ACKLEY!!!!

  75. msb on July 16th, 2010 9:45 am

    Presumably that table lives in the same hotel as Sasaki’s “luggage”?

    on the postgame, Drayer (acknowledging this possible interpretation) said that knowing the tables in question in the team hotel, she actually thinks the story might be true.

  76. spankystout on July 16th, 2010 10:18 am

    jjracoon

    The angels already used their pick from the M’s last month. Unless the M’s sign a type-A this coming offseason they will keep their 2011 first round pick.

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