Game 92, Mariners at Angels

Dave · July 18, 2010 at 10:23 am · Filed Under Mariners 

Vargas vs Santana, 12:35 pm.

The M’s #2 starter takes the hill, though this is now not nearly as exciting as it was the first half of the season. After a strong start to the year, Vargas has mostly been what he was before, and needs to throw strikes in order to succeed, because he’s not racking up the strikeouts any more. If he can avoid the walks, though, he can still be an effective starter, so look for him to pound the zone today against an Angels team that doesn’t hit lefties all that well.

Oh, and hey, Justin Smoak!

Ichiro, RF
Figgins, 2B
Gutierrez, CF
Lopez, 3B
Bradley, DH
Smoak, 1B
Langerhans, LF
Johnson, C
Josh Wilson, SS

Comments

138 Responses to “Game 92, Mariners at Angels”

  1. Chris_From_Bothell on July 18th, 2010 10:29 am

    So, after yesterday’s implosion, how much more time does RRS get? Or is the season lost enough that they might as well muddle through with RRS giving the bullpen a workout every 5 days?

  2. groundzero55 on July 18th, 2010 10:53 am

    Well, he’s basically untradeable, except maybe for someone’s B prospect buried behind a regular. What do we have to lose at this point by starting him? I’m already envisioning a high draft pick.

  3. Diehard on July 18th, 2010 11:41 am

    Smoak!!! That’s about the only reason to watch!

  4. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 11:41 am

    I’m already envisioning a high draft pick.

    Unless there’s another Strasburg in the 2011 draft then tanking isn’t an option in baseball as it takes a couple years for draft picks to pan out. Hyphen needs to go to bullpen or AAA.

  5. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 11:57 am

    Well, if this game gets too unwatchable, there’s always the final round of the British Open to enjoy on another station.

  6. flashbeak on July 18th, 2010 11:59 am

    Lineup
    RF Ichiro!
    2B Figgins
    CF Guti
    3B Lopez
    DH Bradley
    1B Smoak
    LF Langerhans
    C Johnson
    SS Josh Wilson

    Saunders sits again with “jammed middle finger”

  7. IwearMsHats on July 18th, 2010 12:00 pm

    Justin Smoak’s BA is officially above that of Chris Davis who is 0-2 today so far.

  8. Utis on July 18th, 2010 12:21 pm

    So, no Branyan since the all star break. Is he hurt?

  9. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 12:22 pm

    Saunders sits again with “jammed middle finger”

    It’s easy enough to imagine how that injury occurred with the frustration that must be happening in the clubhouse.

  10. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 12:22 pm

    Shannon Drayer reports this morning that Smoak has a nasty blister on his left hand…

    Seems he’s not only hitting the cover off the ball at the moment, but off his hand as well.

  11. jordan on July 18th, 2010 12:23 pm

    Utis; Yes, he dropped a table o his foot over the break… he is day to day.

    Its not as bad at Latos’ injury… he landed on the DL because of a knarly sneeze

  12. dirk on July 18th, 2010 12:26 pm

    Sad M’s stat o’the day:
    Jose Lopez leads our team in extra-base hits with 26….. 8v(

  13. Westside guy on July 18th, 2010 12:30 pm

    Saunders sacrificed himself, diving to grab the coffee table top in a vain attempt to save Branyan’s toe – but his hand caught on one of the table legs, jamming his finger.

    (Just trying to jazz things up)

    These freak injury stories are interesting. I imagine when they really do happen, they’re doubly embarrassing – not just for how they happened, but also because the player knows a lot of people won’t buy the story. The Branyan story is a case in point (although the timing makes it interesting), but the Latos one… I hurt my back once due to a bad sneeze, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

  14. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 12:30 pm

    You know you’re in trouble when a guy with a sub-.300 OBP is leading your team in extra-base hits.

  15. Puffy on July 18th, 2010 12:32 pm

    Utis; Yes, he dropped a table o his foot over the break… he is day to day.
    Its not as bad at Latos’ injury… he landed on the DL because of a knarly sneeze

    Branyan’s injury may be as bad. When you hear about guys stumbling in their hotel rooms at daybreak, you can use your imagination a little. Paxton Crawford cut his back on a glass in the middle of the night in a hotel room and never pitched in the majors again. I wonder what happened there.

  16. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 12:32 pm

    Did anybody else catch Shannon Drayer’s post game comments last night regarding Adam Moore and how she expects he will be called up during the next home stand … maybe even as soon as tomorrow?

    If true, could this be Johnson’s farewell swan song … and has someone figured out how to break the news to Felix? I assume there are no options left on Johnson – and no real reason to exercise any if they do exist.

    Yeah, yeah — it’s probably going to be Bard that goes, but a guy can dream can’t he?

    What a “shock” to see Jack Wilson getting a rest today. Bonehead plays and 1 walk this season. 1 WALK!

    Out of respect to Westside Guy: No more disparaging comments on Bradley. None necessary. I know, I know – you don’t think much of him either as a player.

  17. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 12:40 pm

    Serena Williams (of Tennis playing fame) cut her foot on some glass at a restaurant some time earlier this week – and she is going to miss the next 3 tournaments.

    Input provided in concert with the “silly injury” posts above. Chris Brown (3B Giants – early 80′s) had a straned eyelash and missed a couple games. No shit … a strained eyelash! Try topping that.

  18. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 12:41 pm

    I swear, athletes are the clumsiest people in the real world

  19. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 12:41 pm

    Fairly just mentioned he thought it was “encouraging” that the ball seems to by carrying well so far today…

    It’s encouraging to envision Vargas getting lit up like a Christmas tree this afternoon, Red?

  20. jordan on July 18th, 2010 12:44 pm

    Whoa, I haven’t listened to the M’s on radio in a LONGG time… Ron Fairly?

  21. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 12:44 pm

    a strained eyelash

    I read that somewhere the other day in an account of freakish injuries involving athletes…and wondered how the hell one “strains” a freaking eyelash?! :o

  22. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 12:46 pm

    Jordan — Yeah, ol’ Red’s been sitting in for Niehaus for this series while he’s been on vacation.

  23. jordan on July 18th, 2010 12:47 pm

    Wow, a strained eyelash? Sometimes I try to see how many I can rip out in a day… I better be more careful!

  24. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 12:48 pm

    I read that somewhere the other day in an account of freakish injuries involving athletes…and wondered how the hell one “strains” a freaking eyelash?!

    Chris Brown was a notorious cry-baby-puss … and he made it up (more than likely) – but you read (and I recalled) the reported injury correctly. It might have actually been related to picking up some heavy suitcase too, but the media coverage was not as in-depth then, and there was no blogosphere.

  25. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 12:48 pm

    I am sitting in my apartment five minutes from Angels stadium, but I don’t want to go to the game because this team is too dull to watch.

    Does that make me a bad M’s fan?

  26. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 12:50 pm

    I am sitting in my apartment five minutes from Angels stadium, but I don’t want to go to the game because this team is too dull to watch.

    Does that make me a bad M’s fan?

    No, I think it actually makes you wise beyond your years.

    However, if you went to none of the games during this 4-game series ………

  27. Westside guy on July 18th, 2010 12:51 pm

    Out of respect to Westside Guy: No more disparaging comments on Bradley. None necessary. I know, I know – you don’t think much of him either as a player.

    Uh oh, you’re going to force me to be consistent? ;-)

    So no “that pitch was a foot off the plate, and he swung at it anyway – is he out of his mind?” comments?

    BTW when I made that comment in the other thread – I wasn’t intending to point at any person in general, so I apologize if it came across like I was pointing at you or anyone else. It was more general frustration with talk I’ve seen all over. And I’m sure I’ve said similar things at times, so I have no real moral high ground to stand on.

  28. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 12:54 pm

    Well, Ethan, since many of the fans don’t even arrive ’til the third or fourth inning anyway, there’s probably still plenty of time to make it over there to vulch a good seat…lol! :)

  29. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 12:58 pm

    Because I’ve run out of things to bitch about, how is Blowers a good on-air commentator when he says ‘interesting’ as ‘inner-resting.’ It. Drives. Me. Crazy.

    And baserunning errors. They really piss me off.

  30. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 1:01 pm

    I went to the game yesterday. So I gave the M’s their due haha

  31. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 1:03 pm

    Not that I wanted him to strike out just then, but I think it might’ve pissed me off more to see Langerhans bang out a base hit right after Bradley got picked off.

  32. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 1:06 pm

    It usually seems like they hit a homerun after someone’s out from a stupid baserunning error, scott19, so the hit that goes nowhere isn’t quite as frustrating.

  33. Westside guy on July 18th, 2010 1:07 pm

    Because I’ve run out of things to bitch about, how is Blowers a good on-air commentator when he says ‘interesting’ as ‘inner-resting.’ It. Drives. Me. Crazy.

    I know I’m in the minority on this, but our color guys (past and present) don’t really bother me. I tend to tune out their “analysis”, to be honest – I mainly just listen for the off-on-a-tangent stuff.

    For example, I used to really like it when Fairly would talk about Drysdale, Koufax, and the other old Dodgers – even though his comments on the game at hand were always way too old school for my taste.

    And baserunning errors. They really piss me off.

    I am so with you on this. It makes us look like the Bad News Bears – it’s hard to believe a group of professionals can make that many really stupid errors.

  34. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 1:08 pm

    Heeeeerrrre we go!!!

  35. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 1:14 pm

    For example, I used to really like it when Fairly would talk about Drysdale, Koufax, and the other old Dodgers – even though his comments on the game at hand were always way too old school for my taste.

    Actually, despite some of his “Fairly Obvious” observations, Red wasn’t nearly as annoying as some of the guys that Niehaus has had to put up with in the broadcast booth over the years.

    And at least his stories don’t all revolve around the 1995 or 2001 seasons.

  36. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 1:27 pm

    I’m afraid I was spoiled by listening to Giants games for several years. They have another fine old school announcer, John Miller and their young pup is not some tired retread athlete, but an articulate, erudite young guy, Dave Flemming. The team has been generally terrible, but those two could just go on and on about *stuff* that was vastly entertaining and educational.

    I just have an aversion to the guys who used to be marginal players because they seem to fixate on crappy players like Bloomquist and Johnson, reliving their own shitty careers through these ‘never will be’ players. Which inevitably leads to painful stories of said marginal career…yuck. I’ll go to a sports bar if I want to hear those sort of reminiscences.

  37. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 1:31 pm

    I cringe everytime Figgins goes to field a ground ball.

  38. Westside guy on July 18th, 2010 1:31 pm

    And at least his stories don’t all revolve around the 1995 or 2001 seasons.

    Agreed. I get tired of those in general; plus, this year, those stories basically amount to adding insult to injury.

    Don’t tell us about how good the Mariners used to be when they are currently sucking out loud! That’s what old people do when their glory days are gone forever – I want to believe the M’s have some more glory days coming up in the future!

  39. Nellie Fox on July 18th, 2010 1:33 pm

    There was a Dave Flemming who threw for the M’s 10-or so years ago.

    I want Sims to stop saying “in the gap” when a ball does not really get into the gap.

  40. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 1:42 pm

    Juneau — I’m with you there on Miller. He’s one of my favorites as well…and clearly one of the best in the business.

    I did feel sorry for him having to put up with Joe Morgan’s* babbling sometimes when they used to do Sunday Night Baseball, though. (*As awesome a player as Morgan was, as for his broadcasting skills……)

  41. jordan on July 18th, 2010 1:42 pm

    I’m not just asking this to complain… I am really just curious… what does Wak see in RoJo to consistently be playing him?

    I am really wondering…

  42. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 1:46 pm

    Haha intentionally walking Ichi to get to Figgins. No one takes Figgy seriously anymore, not even his former team.

  43. Westside guy on July 18th, 2010 1:46 pm

    I’m not just asking this to complain… I am really just curious… what does Wak see in RoJo to consistently be playing him?

    You’re not alone in that. It seemed, earlier this year, as if Wak was finally getting tired of the passed balls and bad play. He started playing Moore a lot more, and made comments like “we’re hoping to see one of these guys step up and take the starting job”. But then Moore hurt himself running out a hit (speaking of oddball injuries), and RoJo seemed to fall back into the default catcher role.

  44. lalo on July 18th, 2010 1:51 pm

    Saunders could be our 2nd hitter and Figgins our 9th hitter?

  45. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 1:52 pm

    what does Wak see in RoJo to consistently be playing him?

    I’ve wondered that myself. Apparently, most of the starters feel comfortable with him back there because he “calls a good game”…but if I were Wak, I wouldn’t think twice about going for a late-inning defensive change — especially if a guy like League who would like to throw his splitter to someone he’s confident can handle it comes into the game.

  46. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 1:52 pm

    I know they’ve discussed this before, but would Buhner or Edgar be interested in managing this team?

  47. Nellie Fox on July 18th, 2010 1:52 pm

    The Mariner starting staff likes pitching to Johnson, so evidently he possesses some qualities which the discerning eye of the forum poster may have missed. It’s been this way since he got called up. Jamie Moyer requested a trade when he found himself continually being asked to pitch to the other catcher. And RJs rookie season was actually a defensive gem – according to most of the experts outside of Seattle. Again, they couldn’t possibly know what our average forum poster knows. Johnson’s the starter. Go figure.

  48. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 1:57 pm

    Humorously, Nellie Fox, the first line on Dave Flemming’s Wiki page is: Not to be confused with Dave Fleming (who is the player you’re thinking of.)

    And this couldn’t be confused with a Mariner’s player: Flemming received Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees in Classics from Stanford University and a Master’s Degree in Broadcast Journalism from the S.I. Newhouse School of Communications at Syracuse University.

    I agree at the teeth-clenchingness of Joe Morgan’s ‘commentary,’ scott19. I love when he’ll acknowledge that he was a stathead’s dream as a player, but stats still don’t matter as much as grit and dirty uniforms and playing the game right and blah, blah, blah.

    So sad to see the Fire Joe Morgan blog come to an end. He outlasted them!

  49. Westside guy on July 18th, 2010 1:59 pm

    And RJs rookie season was actually a defensive gem – according to most of the experts outside of Seattle.

    [citation needed]

  50. Nellie Fox on July 18th, 2010 2:04 pm

    See Bill James’ Gold Mine, either 2009 or 2010, whichever preceded Johnson’s multiple hip surgeries. There is a detailed article.

  51. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 2:04 pm

    And I would point out that it’s not his rookie season anymore, even if it is true.

  52. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 2:06 pm

    I know they’ve discussed this before, but would Buhner or Edgar be interested in managing this team?

    It’s kind of hard to say how that would work out. Though there’ve been some notable exceptions (i.e. Torre, Lou, Dusty Baker), having a good-to-great major league career hasn’t always led to managing success (thinking Alan Trammell’s stint as the Tigers’ manager from ’03-’05 here).

  53. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 2:13 pm

    BTW when I made that comment in the other thread – I wasn’t intending to point at any person in general, so I apologize if it came across like I was pointing at you or anyone else.

    I didn’t think you were pointing at anybody specifically. As a matter of fact, you did a good job of not doing that and you made a good point along the way – with no need to apologize. I have been consistent with my comments on Bradley throughout the year and it was probably time for me to let it go. I hope the Mariners do the same soon. Mechanically – his swing is consistently “late.” The reasons for it: Who knows. At this point, who cares.

  54. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 2:15 pm

    Rob Johnson is a lucky frakker in general, eh?

  55. Nellie Fox on July 18th, 2010 2:21 pm

    Ichiro is hitting .259 the last five weeks, OPS sub .650. His average was .360 June 20. Today it’s under .320. Usually he gets hot in July-August. Age?

  56. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 2:23 pm

    Sullivan asked Bell about his personal wish list for acquisitions, and Bell named Hart, Cody Ross, Miguel Tejada, and Milton Bradley before floating a unique idea: acquire Lance Berkman and put him back in the outfield. It’s unlikely that Berkman would play a respectable outfield at this point, but the scenario suggests that Bell clearly would like to see a proven, veteran bat added to the lineup.

    Padres GM is interested in Bradley. Take what you can get Jack Z.! Anything!

  57. henryv on July 18th, 2010 2:24 pm

    Ichiro is hitting .259 the last five weeks, OPS sub .650. His average was .360 June 20. Today it’s under .320. Usually he gets hot in July-August. Age?

    Small sample size, BABIP, etc…

    Players don’t age horribly in 5 weeks… Unless you’re Richie Sexson, or apparently Chone Figgins.

    And remember, you’re commenting on him hitting .260.

    At Ichiro’s worst, he’s still one of the best players on this God forsaken team.

  58. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 2:28 pm

    Padres GM is interested in Bradley. Take what you can get Jack Z.! Anything!

    Hey, if the Evil Friars are offering up even a bag of bats, a case of sunflower seeds, and some burgers from In-&-Out, why not? ;)

  59. henryv on July 18th, 2010 2:31 pm

    I’d just take the burgers.

  60. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 2:34 pm

    At Ichiro’s worst, he’s still one of the best players on this God forsaken team.

    That is REALLY not saying much haha.

    In other news, this has been an incredibly boring game of baseball. Would it kill the Mariners to make solid contact? Except for Smoak, that guy is a flat out beast.

  61. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2010 2:37 pm

    Usually he gets hot in July-August. Age?

    Your premise is wrong. Ichiro’s BA and OPS by month, career:

    April 298/748
    May 363/877
    June 344/840
    July 330/811
    August 328/785
    Sept/Oct 323/782

    If Ichiro has a pattern, it’s to start slow, get smoking hot for a while, then tail off slightly as another meaningless season grinds on. Kind of like this year.

  62. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 2:46 pm

    Figgins … team MVP?

  63. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 2:47 pm

    Ahh…another fine defensive gem from Figgins…sigh.

  64. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 2:47 pm

    After Johnson, Figgins is probably the worst starter on this team…

  65. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 2:48 pm

    This is just so distressing.

    Figgins was moved to second to give our crappy second baseman a showcase at third for a trade? Is that the theory? So we have an equally crappy second baseman now and no trade. Assuming the baseball gods carry Lopez away, away by July 31st, who’d play second when Figgins would mercifully return to third?

  66. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 2:50 pm

    I haven’t checked the splits in a week or so, but at last check, Figgins had approximately 70 AB’s leading off an inning – and was hitting .150 ish.

    Not batting leadoff is not the problem.

    We have a $9Million dollar 9-hole “hitter” at this point.

    Not completely surprised that SD GM might be “interested” in Bradley. Bradley had a pretty good series when the M’s visited San Diego and that was right around the point where some hope in his abilities existed. I doubt their GM wants anything other than the M’s to cover Bradley’s salary, but whatever it takes – for as long as it takes – as long as it takes him somewhere else … I am definitley in favor of it.

  67. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 2:52 pm

    Great game Vargas!

    Nicely done!

  68. naviomelo on July 18th, 2010 2:52 pm

    Why on earth is he taking Vargas out of the game?!

  69. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 2:53 pm

    What a great effort by Jason Vargas today…

    Too bad he won’t get a “W” to show for it.

  70. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 2:54 pm

    Why on earth is he taking Vargas out of the game?!

    Plane is on the runway – taking off in an hour.

  71. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 2:55 pm

    Frankly, I’m shocked, I don’t know about the rest of you.

  72. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 2:55 pm

    Wakamatsu on RRS:

    This kid’s a big part of our future,” Wakamatsu said. “It’s been a tough, tough year on him. Without the results, you still see some improvement. He’s got a ways to go to be consistent, but he’s pitched well enough in the past. He’s going to have to make some adjustments both physically and mentally.

    “I think he’s got a chance to be an awfully good pitcher in the Major Leagues. Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forward. It hasn’t been pretty for him.”

    I hate his stupid belief system. If the guy can’t compete at a major league level, then so be it. Confidence is key I know, but does anyone believe Wak anymore when it comes to confidence? He is just desperate now.

  73. Diehard on July 18th, 2010 2:55 pm

    I really am starting to not like League. Should’ve kept Morrow.

  74. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 2:55 pm

    Abreu swung at the first pitch? That is rare – and quite surprising. Shocking actually.

  75. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 2:56 pm

    Why on earth is he taking Vargas out of the game?!

    Agree. League blows. Wouldn’t it nice to have Morrow back now that we are desperate for SP’s with Hyphen sucking, Fister struggling and no 5th starter.

  76. lalo on July 18th, 2010 2:56 pm

    There are some team desperate for a leadoff hitter who can take Figgins? Or will another bad contract for the next four years?

  77. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 2:56 pm

    Welcome to the Don Wakamatsu Institute for Lucky Managing, my friends!

  78. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 2:59 pm

    Wakamatsu on RRS:

    He knows better than us, but personally, I think Wak “drank the Kool-Aid” and doesn’t know what to believe anymore.

  79. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2010 3:00 pm

    Vargas was at 103 pitches, and hasn’t gone much deeper than that all year. He pitched a great game, but I can’t fault Wak for pulling him. The fact that the bullpen sucks isn’t a reason to abuse the starters when you’re 21 games under 500.

  80. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 3:04 pm

    And the torment continues.

  81. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:07 pm

    isn’t a reason to abuse the starters when you’re 21 games under 500.

    I’m hearing a certain former NFL coach say, “You play to win the game”. It doesn’t matter how bad the season is going, you keep trying to win for the paying fans.

  82. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2010 3:08 pm

    Of course you play to win the game but you don’t risk a pitcher’s arm to do it.

  83. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:09 pm

    And, despite the presence of “Pudge” Johnson behind the plate, I notice League’s throwing his splitter anyway…

    I think he’s even grown tired of Rojo’s lack of defensive prowess these days.

  84. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:11 pm

    Of course you play to win the game but you don’t risk a pitcher’s arm to do it.

    Pitch counts are over rated these days. It’s not like he’s a hard throwing rookie. He’s been around long enough to try to get 1 more out with his runner on 1st base.

  85. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:12 pm

    I’m hearing a certain former NFL coach say, “You play to win the game”. It doesn’t matter how bad the season is going, you keep trying to win for the paying fans.

    I wish somebody would’ve mentioned that to the Detroit Lions for like the last zillion years or so now.

  86. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2010 3:12 pm

    If having Johnson back there keeps League from throwing his splitter, that’s League’s fault. Throw your best pitch, and trust your teammate to make the plays. That’s what team work is all about. If the other guy screws up, so be it, but you can’t let that get in your own head.

    I understand Johnson sucks, but the idea that League is pitching differently because of him makes no sense at all.

  87. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 3:17 pm

    Where the hell was Ichiro running? hahaha. Even the great Ichi doesn’t know how to run the bases anymore.

  88. Swungonandbelted on July 18th, 2010 3:17 pm

    Putting the fun in fundamentals….

  89. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:17 pm

    Wow, that’s what we get for 18 million? Come on Ichiro.

  90. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:18 pm

    I don’t usually say this, but…thanks, Ichiro! >:(

  91. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 3:18 pm

    Yeesh. Just when we didn’t think it could get worse.

    I also liked how Ichiro kept running, is waving to Guti to move up to second, and he’s glued to first.

    Okay. Whatever.

  92. CYK on July 18th, 2010 3:19 pm

    How much of this base-running ineptitude is due to poor coaching?

  93. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:20 pm

    I understand Johnson sucks, but the idea that League is pitching differently because of him makes no sense at all.

    It makes a lot of sense with people on base League doesn’t want to throw one in the dirt because RoJo can’t block it.

    Sims just said “curiouser”, new word?

  94. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 3:20 pm

    So should we all go our separate ways until February? Once training camp starts for football, I will have zero reason to watch this team.

  95. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:21 pm

    Wow…J-Lo playing the hero for once…WOOHOO!!!

  96. lalo on July 18th, 2010 3:21 pm

    Lopie!!

  97. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2010 3:22 pm

    It makes a lot of sense with people on base League doesn’t want to throw one in the dirt because RoJo can’t block it.

    No, you don’t pitch scared. Throw the goddamn pitch. If RoJo can’t block it, you lose. If you keep throwing fastballs, you lose. Throw the goddamn pitch.

  98. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 3:23 pm

    What … a money bag (stolen base) and a clutch hit?

    Be still my beating heart.

    Pray for rain. Aardma’s in the pen.

  99. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:25 pm

    Aaaaaand, enter David Mesa Aardvark to provide today’s Hang-On Time entertainment…oy-vay!

  100. naviomelo on July 18th, 2010 3:26 pm

    Vargas has had outings of 105+ pitches five times this year. He couldn’t have left him in to get the final out in the 8th?

  101. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 3:27 pm

    Dammit Figgins!!! I thought you were finally going to make a play!!

  102. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:28 pm

    I wanted to see another Smoak AB. I think I’ll get that chance.

  103. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 3:31 pm

    God, I hate the bullpen.

  104. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:32 pm

    Unless the Angels just walk off.

  105. lalo on July 18th, 2010 3:32 pm

    Where is J.J Putz?? Aardsma sucks

  106. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 3:33 pm

    This is a sincere question here: what exactly happened to Aardsma? He is not the same pitcher he was last year. Is he not throwing as many strikes this season or what?

  107. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:35 pm

    This is a sincere question here: what exactly happened to Aardsma? He is not the same pitcher he was last year. Is he not throwing as many strikes this season or what?

    As another former NFL coach said, “they are who we thought they were”. Aarsdma had a good year last year but has reverted back to what he was in Boston.

  108. lalo on July 18th, 2010 3:35 pm

    This is a sincere question here: what exactly happened to Aardsma? He is not the same pitcher he was last year. Is he not throwing as many strikes this season or what?

    He was lucky last year, he has never been a great pitcher …

  109. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 3:36 pm

    He was never as good as the results would suggest last year. The dreaded regression to mean here. *shudder*

    Come on, dammit! One more strike!

  110. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 3:37 pm

    Haha, Sims said Mariners win, like he was shocked.

  111. lalo on July 18th, 2010 3:37 pm

    I hate you Aardsma!!!

  112. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:38 pm

    Mr. Aardsma, you live a charmed life, indeed…

    And the M’s salvage a big one-out-of-four in Anaheim…GIDDY UP!!!

  113. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 3:38 pm

    Ah okay, thanks for the response. I honestly never took the time to look up his career before he got to the M’s.

    As for the game, such a dull win. I didn’t get the least bit excited on that last strike. We won on a wild pitch and a blooper. This is going to be a long season haha

  114. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 3:39 pm

    Aardsma actually mixed up his pitches … and threw a couple of the non-fastballs for strikes!? WTF?!

    Where has that been? It made all the difference. He actually pitched … instead of just throwing. A trend that hopefully continues.

  115. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 3:41 pm

    As for the game, such a dull win. I didn’t get the least bit excited on that last strike. We won on a wild pitch and a blooper. This is going to be a long season haha

    Thereby proving that you did the right thing by not going to the game … and are wise beyond your years.

    My wife was shocked that there would be a M’s fan living in the Anaheim area. I told her that “Mariner Nation” is everywhere.

  116. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:42 pm

    This is going to be a long season

    Here, let me fix that for ya:

    This is going to be has been a dreadfully long season!

  117. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 3:47 pm

    My wife was shocked that there would be a M’s fan living in the Anaheim area. I told her that “Mariner Nation” is everywhere.

    Yeah. I haven’t always lived here. Just moved up here from the Imperial Valley area last year for college (Cal-State Fullerton FTW!) . I drive around a Jeep with a Mariners trailer hitch on it. I’m probably not the most popular guy around here.

    But yes, Mariner Nation is everywhere…for now

  118. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2010 3:47 pm

    Vargas has had outings of 105+ pitches five times this year. He couldn’t have left him in to get the final out in the 8th?

    Way to cherry pick numbers. Those 5 outings were 105-108-109-106-106. He didn’t get into the 8th inning in any of those games, and he has never gone 8 all year. He was at 103 when he was pulled. He still wouldn’t have got the win even if he went 8.

  119. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 3:48 pm

    And, just think, the White (Hot) Sox and Red Sox come to town for what should be about a 1-5 homestand…oh, boy!!!

  120. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 3:50 pm

    Haha, Sims said Mariners win, like he was shocked.

    I noticed that. But at least he got to say “The DA closes the case!” for the first time in a long time.

  121. Ralph_Malph on July 18th, 2010 3:53 pm

    Interesting comment by Wak about Guti on Shannon Drayer’s blog:

    “Look at Guti now,” Wak continued. “We have had a lot of dialogue with him saying what you did last year was about as good as you can do with that swing and now you are exposed to scouting reports that define different holes. Now you have to continue to adjust to it, so he is working on adjustments.

  122. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 3:57 pm

    In horrible news. The guy who played Lou Brown in “Major League”, James Gammon, died today. I will be watching Major League 1 and 2 back to back now. =(

  123. justcruisn on July 18th, 2010 4:05 pm

    Boy, I bet the Angels are embarassed!

  124. scott19 on July 18th, 2010 4:06 pm

    That is sad news…RIP, Mr. Gammon.

  125. groundzero55 on July 18th, 2010 4:08 pm

    Figgins was moved to second to give our crappy second baseman a showcase at third for a trade? Is that the theory? So we have an equally crappy second baseman now and no trade.

    Nah, he was moved to second because he was the “better defender.” I think the front office and management expected Lopez to put up numbers like he did last year, which is part of the reason we didn’t see power pushed for too much in the offseason. Then again, if everyone in the lineup were performing up to career averages/last year’s career season, we would probably be neck and neck with the Rangers for the division lead.

  126. EthanN on July 18th, 2010 4:27 pm

    Haha on the Mariners official website, in the comments for today’s game article, someone is suggesting that Tui is the 3rd baseman of the future. I think I’ll go laugh myself to death now.

  127. juneau_fan on July 18th, 2010 4:28 pm

    See, EthanN, it could always be worse.

  128. Westside guy on July 18th, 2010 4:32 pm

    Then again, if everyone in the lineup were performing up to career averages/last year’s career season, we would probably be neck and neck with the Rangers for the division lead.

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, describes the 2010 Mariners season in a nutshell.

  129. groundzero55 on July 18th, 2010 4:59 pm

    someone is suggesting that Tui is the 3rd baseman of the future.

    Hasn’t he been the 3rd baseman of the future for the past, oh, five years or so?

  130. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 5:03 pm

    Yeah. I haven’t always lived here. Just moved up here from the Imperial Valley area last year for college (Cal-State Fullerton FTW!) . I drive around a Jeep with a Mariners trailer hitch on it. I’m probably not the most popular guy around here.

    I don’t think I can agree with you Ethan. There is nothing more popular (in an opposing City) than to see the “Mariners” or their fans coming to town. The Mariners can help cure any of their rivals’ cold streaks. They have done it twice for Anaheim now. You might just be the most popular resident in all of Anaheim.

    Good luck in school.

  131. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 5:08 pm

    Now you have to continue to adjust to it, so he is working on adjustments.

    You know that commercial that FSN keeps playing to promote “batting practice” with Wak throwing and Junior yelling “make an adjustment” in the background … and Wak laughing while throwing. I think this phrase is probably something they have heard a lot. Nobody knows what it means (because of the lack of specificity) … but it means that someone needs to do something.

    BTW: I think all teams do it.

    The only proper adjustment (and the likely true meaning): Start producing.

  132. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 5:15 pm

    Josh Lueke’s line today: 2 IP, 1 Hit, 3 K’s … 22 pitches – with 18 for strikes.

    Lawson is also hitting the ball well since being traded.

    Yay!

  133. SODOMOJO360 on July 18th, 2010 6:29 pm

    This kid’s a big part of our future,” Wakamatsu said. “It’s been a tough, tough year on him. Without the results, you still see some improvement. He’s got a ways to go to be consistent, but he’s pitched well enough in the past. He’s going to have to make some adjustments both physically and mentally.

    “I think he’s got a chance to be an awfully good pitcher in the Major Leagues. Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forward. It hasn’t been pretty for him.”

    Wak talking bout Hyphen saying he has a bright future? Maybe we need a coach that recognizes when a player is bad.

  134. Nellie Fox on July 18th, 2010 6:58 pm

    I remember Matt Lawson, but can’t remember from where. Sounds weird, I know, but my brain keeps saying, “good ballplayer, blue collar, strong.” This is not ESP. I’ve heard about him before but cannot connect. Anyone out there seen him or know his roots?

    (Maybe too much cough medicine.)

  135. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 7:00 pm

    Wak talking bout Hyphen saying he has a bright future?

    Obviously, but only after an “adjustment” is made.

  136. msfanmike on July 18th, 2010 7:08 pm

    I remember Matt Lawson, but can’t remember from where. Sounds weird, I know, but my brain keeps saying, “good ballplayer, blue collar, strong.” This is not ESP.

    Are you maybe confusing him with Matt Lawton – former Twins outfielder? Matt Lawton’s profile kind of fits the metrics of your description above.

  137. henryv on July 18th, 2010 7:37 pm

    In horrible news. The guy who played Lou Brown in “Major League”, James Gammon, died today. I will be watching Major League 1 and 2 back to back now. =(

    That is really sad. I love those movies.

  138. naviomelo on July 18th, 2010 7:52 pm

    Way to cherry pick numbers. Those 5 outings were 105-108-109-106-106. He didn’t get into the 8th inning in any of those games, and he has never gone 8 all year. He was at 103 when he was pulled. He still wouldn’t have got the win even if he went 8.

    Actually, he threw 102 pitches, to a total of 28 batters. 3.64 P/PA. Good thing he only threw 102 instead of, oh, 105.64 – the exact number I “cherry picked”. He sure did look fatigued after striking out 4 of his last 6 hitters!

    He was having the game of his life with 9 strikeouts. It was a high leverage situation, and he’d just struck out Erick Aybar with a runner on base. I’m more concerned about the team winning the game than ascribing credit for that win to a certain pitcher.

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