Game 98, Red Sox at Mariners

Dave · July 24, 2010 at 3:00 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Lester vs Pauley, 6:10 pm.

I think I took Amy whitewater rafting today. I think we had fun. I think the Mariners lost last night. I hope I’m only wrong about the last of those things.

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92 Responses to “Game 98, Red Sox at Mariners”

  1. zeebfan on July 24th, 2010 3:26 pm

    The game is at 7:10.

  2. JMHawkins on July 24th, 2010 3:34 pm

    The game is at 7:10.

    At what time do we score our run tonight?

  3. Jasper_C on July 24th, 2010 3:36 pm

    At what time do we score our run tonight?

    I think we are assuming a little much, assuming we will score a run tonight. (Laughs to suppress tears about this being true)

  4. scott19 on July 24th, 2010 3:50 pm

    I think we are assuming a little much, assuming we will score a run tonight.

    No kidding — especially with Lester on the mound.

  5. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 3:51 pm

    I’ll be curious to see the line-up… anyone know when Jack Z was meeting w/ Wak and w/ Figgy?

  6. pft on July 24th, 2010 4:10 pm

    With Lester on the mound, all you can do is think one hit at a time, and hope the ump has small strike zone. But if hitters chase Lester out of the zone, the strike zone won’t matter, and it will be ugly. Lester is hittable if you make him throw the ball over the plate.

    Pauley vs Lester is not a very promising matchup.
    Ortiz and Drew don’t hit LHP’ers very well, but crush soft tossing RHP’ers. Youkilis and Beltre are hot. I would be surprised if this is ends up a close game, but baseball is a funny game that way.

  7. wyte_lightning on July 24th, 2010 4:16 pm

    Lineups for the day

    Ichiro – 9
    Figgins – 4
    Guti – 8
    Lopez – 5
    Smoak – 3
    Bradley – DH
    Bard – 2
    Ja. Wilson – 6
    Saunders – 7
    Pauley – 1

  8. Chipanese on July 24th, 2010 4:18 pm

    I’m surprised figgy is in the line-up

    http://twitpic.com/28cmko

  9. Dennisss on July 24th, 2010 4:34 pm

    I think the Mariners lost last night.

    Nice job, Kreskin. I can’t imagine how you guessed that in advance, but that’s why we look up to you.

  10. mln on July 24th, 2010 4:49 pm

    Whitewater rafting sounds like a wonderful way to build team unity and trust! The M’s should look into that as well as other outdoor activities like grizzly bear hunting.

  11. don52656 on July 24th, 2010 5:06 pm

    Not at all surprised if Figgins is in the lineup. I sincerely doubt that Figgins was dogging it, even though it sort of looked that way. Wakamatsu and Figgins would have talked it out and Figgins would be back in the lineup tonight.

    I would think the situation would be much worse if Figgins was not in the lineup.

  12. pgreyy on July 24th, 2010 5:09 pm

    Figgins batting 2nd.
    Lopez batting 4th.
    Saunders batting 9th.

    Cue David Byrne and the Talking Heads, “Same as it ever was…”

  13. lalo on July 24th, 2010 5:24 pm

    Josh Lueke could be our closer in 2011? Or Beavan a starting pitcher?

  14. Celadus on July 24th, 2010 5:36 pm

    In terms of lineup flexibility, Wakamatsu is making McLaren look like Casey Stengel or Tony LaRussa.

  15. scott19 on July 24th, 2010 5:41 pm

    In terms of lineup flexibility, Wakamatsu is making McLaren look like Casey Stengel or Tony LaRussa.

    That almost sounds like one of my snarky analogies. :)

  16. greentunic on July 24th, 2010 5:44 pm

    I really would like to see Figgins then Ichrio in the order. What can possibly go wrong? Ichiro isn’t exactly tearing it up like he usually does either. Lets shake things up. That’s what you’re supposed to do with a linup when the linup is worse than 16 teams that have pitchers hitting…

  17. scott19 on July 24th, 2010 5:55 pm

    I liked the old trick which Lou tried that one time some years back…during the pre-game interview segment, he had Niehaus pick a random name out of his hat to see who would lead off that night…

    It wound up being Russ Davis — and, unfortunately, the losing streak continued unabated.

  18. scott19 on July 24th, 2010 6:16 pm

    In tonight’s interview segment, Niehaus mentioned to Wak that “I hope this is a fulcrum in the season…toward something more positive.”

    Unfortunately, rather than a fulcrum, I think it might just be a crumb instead.

  19. Dave Spiwak on July 24th, 2010 6:39 pm

    Jon Lester against Jane Pauley. This should end well!

  20. Chris_From_Bothell on July 24th, 2010 6:52 pm

    At what time do we score our run tonight?

    Dave will likely score more this weekend than the Ms will.

    …and I mean Dave Niehaus.

  21. jephdood on July 24th, 2010 6:57 pm

    Quote from Wak about last night:

    “There’s a lot of guys in this clubhouse and coaches that, we want to win every ballgame we’re in,” Wakamatsu said. “There’s a lot of emotions that fly and, again, we’re right there with the fans on every game. But we’re playing some pretty good baseball.

    Pretty good baseball?? What are you smoking, Wak?! Is he THAT delusional???

  22. scott19 on July 24th, 2010 7:03 pm

    But we’re playing some pretty good baseball.”

    Based on that information, I think we can reasonably assess that either: (1) Wak has been buying some funky herbs lately, or (2) he is certifiably insane.

  23. joser on July 24th, 2010 7:11 pm

    It may not be a fulcrum, but we could at least hope it represents the nadir.

    Ichiro isn’t exactly tearing it up like he usually does either.

    What? Ichiro has a .314 average, which may be a little low for him but is actually higher than the average he finished with in three of his nine previous seasons (.312 in ’03, .303 in ’05, and .310 in ’08). He has 125 hits in 437 PA which puts him on pace for 210 hits, which again is low for him but still higher than his totals in ’02 (208) or ’05 (206). And it’s also still higher than the number of hits recorded by all but a handful of players in any given year. He may be having a down year by his lofty standards, but I hardly think he’s having the kind of season that demands messing around with his spot in the batting order.

    Which is not to say it might not hurt to change the batting order for some of the players who definitely are having problems, like Figgins and Lopez.

  24. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 7:17 pm

    Lester isn’t so tough. Sure he’s got an ERA of 2.81; but that’s all luck – his xFIP is way up there at 3.39… um…

    Okay we’re screwed.

  25. jephdood on July 24th, 2010 7:23 pm

    Haha…

    Oh, Figgins.

  26. galaxieboi on July 24th, 2010 7:31 pm

    Hey, Adrian.

  27. EthanN on July 24th, 2010 7:56 pm

    And thats the ball game…

  28. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 7:58 pm

    Hey Dave and Mike – ask Wilson if he thinks RoJo is a good catcher…

    (yeah like THAT’S going to happen)

  29. Dave Spiwak on July 24th, 2010 7:59 pm

    Figgy! Way to back up that play!

  30. KCrotchman on July 24th, 2010 8:14 pm

    Looks like Lester might shut down this offensive juggernaut. Oh wait….. you mean this is a typical Mariner outing? But ….. nevermind.

  31. lalo on July 24th, 2010 8:16 pm

    this is the most depressing game I’ve ever seen…

  32. juneau_fan on July 24th, 2010 8:22 pm

    Give ‘em time, Iaio, give ‘em time.

  33. KCrotchman on July 24th, 2010 8:27 pm

    Anyone think that a Mariner will break 20 hr’s this year?

  34. nvn8vbryce on July 24th, 2010 8:28 pm

    The only time we’ll be seeing is Lester going 9 tonight…

  35. kenshabby on July 24th, 2010 8:28 pm

    Remember that scene toward the end of Platoon, in which the soldier who survives that last major battle stabs himself so that he can be sent home and avoid the rest of the war? Were I a Seattle Mariner I’d be thinking of a creative way to injure myself during a game. Nothing too bad, just enough to avoid this abject failure.

  36. greentunic on July 24th, 2010 8:30 pm

    How many nights in a row can the Mariners be threatened to be no-hit? This offense is historically bad.

  37. Dave Spiwak on July 24th, 2010 8:30 pm

    Awright. I predict a perfect game through 8 and M’s win it in the 9th!

  38. pft on July 24th, 2010 8:32 pm

    M’s have an OPS+ of 77. The last AL team to have a lower OPS+ was the 68 White Sox at 76 (excluding strike shortened season of 1981 where they only played 60 games and TOR had a 74 OPS+).

    I had no idea it was this bad, historically speaking that is.

  39. EthanN on July 24th, 2010 8:34 pm

    I think its time to change the dimensions of Safeco…

  40. Willmore2000 on July 24th, 2010 8:35 pm

    Can you jinx an opposing pitcher?

    Let’s try it out.

    Hey look, Lester is pitching a perfect game.

  41. galaxieboi on July 24th, 2010 8:35 pm

    M’s have an OPS+ of 77. The last AL team to have a lower OPS+ was the 68 White Sox at 76 (excluding strike shortened season of 1981 where they only played 60 games and TOR had a 74 OPS+).

    Oh, wow.

  42. EthanN on July 24th, 2010 8:38 pm

    Can you jinx an opposing pitcher?
    Let’s try it out.
    Hey look, Lester is pitching a perfect game.

    No way! Hopefully he keeps it up

  43. Willmore2000 on July 24th, 2010 8:39 pm

    Oh, wow.

    Never underestimate the Mariners’ ability to underwhelm.

  44. dsmiley on July 24th, 2010 8:39 pm

    Somehow this is all Jose Vidro’s fault.

  45. Willmore2000 on July 24th, 2010 8:40 pm

    holy fuck, no way a perfect game bid ends on that!

    It worked! I jinxed him.

  46. KPS on July 24th, 2010 8:41 pm

    Hey, we got a baserunner! Thanks, Patterson.

  47. KPS on July 24th, 2010 8:43 pm

    Condor!!!

  48. Swungonandbelted on July 24th, 2010 8:44 pm

    Saunders!

  49. greentunic on July 24th, 2010 8:44 pm

    Liddi: six home runs in his last six games. Lovin it.

  50. EthanN on July 24th, 2010 8:44 pm

    SAUNDERS!!!!!

  51. lalo on July 24th, 2010 8:44 pm

    Condor!!!!!

  52. spankystout on July 24th, 2010 8:44 pm

    I love saunders!! I just turned the game on to see Patterson “clank” that play. Then Saunders hits a bomb!

  53. dsmiley on July 24th, 2010 8:44 pm

    Willmore2000, you are a genius.

  54. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 8:45 pm

    SAUND-ers!!!!

    Plus, against a good lefty!

  55. EthanN on July 24th, 2010 8:47 pm

    The Mariners owe Willmore2000 season tickets…not that anyone would want to watch the Mariners on a consistent basis

  56. ppl on July 24th, 2010 8:48 pm

    The M’s team hitting streak remains alive.

    Got a hit in every game since 5-15-1996.

    Have never failed to get atleast one base runner.

    Actually had a good number of baserunners off of Gooden when he no-hit them.

  57. spankystout on July 24th, 2010 8:50 pm

    Hey for free season tickets I will prognosticate daily, unlike that lazy fucking groundhog punxsatawney phil.

  58. lalo on July 24th, 2010 8:50 pm

    Carlos Pena and Michael Saunders the only lefties to homer off Lester this year

  59. Willmore2000 on July 24th, 2010 8:53 pm

    The Mariners owe Willmore2000 season tickets…not that anyone would want to watch the Mariners on a consistent basis

    From your mouth to Chuck’s ears.

  60. ppl on July 24th, 2010 8:57 pm

    Funny how the same people who downplay Michael Saunders are the same people who never let up harping about the obvious lack of power the Mariners have.

    Saunders now has eight jacks which is the same amount that Jack Cust has after he hit two today in about the same amount of At-Bats.

    And unlike the broken down aging power hitters who we didn’t sign in the off-season, Saunders has a future.

  61. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 9:03 pm

    It’s good to see the young guy coming around, especially given what appeared to be a lack of a belief system regarding him earlier in the year (I realize that may not be fair, and there were other things going on with Griffey and Bradley). I know he wasn’t a Z acquisition, and I realize he’s not tearing it up offensively at the level of, say, Jason Heyward – but I’m glad his bat appears to be adjusting to major league pitching. I hope he has a long, successful Mariners career ahead of him.

  62. Willmore2000 on July 24th, 2010 9:21 pm

    Bradley triple. That was awesome.

  63. joser on July 24th, 2010 9:24 pm

    Actually the real lack of belief system wrt Saunders was among the fans. During the early part of the season I got tired of pointing out that they had no basis to conclude he was “unable to hit major league pitching” (and various other shibboleths) based on 120 PA.

  64. greentunic on July 24th, 2010 9:27 pm

    Spectacular job getting that bunt down.

  65. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 9:28 pm

    Bradley triple. That was awesome.

    I was a little worried, at the end of the triple where he was laying on top of third base, that he had passed away.

  66. diderot on July 24th, 2010 9:30 pm

    Someone mentioned the 68 White Sox.

    They had one quality hitter…Pete Ward…but one young guy no one thought much about, Bill Melton.
    He turned into the Sox best power threat until a slipped disc essentially ended his career. But that’s the kind of breakthrough we need next year from Saunders or Smoak–or how about both of them?

  67. georgmi on July 24th, 2010 9:34 pm

    You know, if Chone Figgins really cared and wanted to put in some effort, he could have made it to third with Ichiro there.

  68. joser on July 24th, 2010 9:35 pm

    Here’s a fun one to increase your misery: who currently sports a .338 / .386 / .636 (1.022 OPS, .438 wOBA) line? And is batting .371 vs RHP?

    Michael Morse

    Ok, the rest of the story: that’s through 83 PA in 38 games, total, so far this year (including a spectacular last 7 days). He’s a sub/pinch hitter for Riggleman in Washington, and those numbers aren’t sustainable as a full-time hitter (not to mention the fielding issues).

    But still, that’s a great bench bat.

  69. KCrotchman on July 24th, 2010 9:38 pm

    Sweet its “Leave em Loaded Lopez”

  70. Paul L on July 24th, 2010 9:38 pm

    Don’t
    Fail
    Again

    Lopez

  71. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 9:39 pm

    But that’s the kind of breakthrough we need next year from Saunders or Smoak–or how about both of them?

    I freely admit this is totally subjective (and not original thinking either) – but Smoak and that swing of his sure look like good candidates for that.

  72. KCrotchman on July 24th, 2010 9:39 pm

    Nice RBI Lopez!

  73. Paul L on July 24th, 2010 9:40 pm

    Smoak should take two strikes.

  74. greentunic on July 24th, 2010 9:42 pm

    GOSH DANGIT! WANTED THAT FOR SMOAK!

  75. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 9:43 pm

    Don’t
    Fail Flail
    Again

    Lopez

    There, fixed that for you.

  76. Paul L on July 24th, 2010 9:45 pm

    That’ll work

  77. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 9:48 pm

    Nothing against Olson, seriously – but I hate the mentality where Aardsma isn’t brought in cuz the extra run means it’s not a save situation. At some point some smart team is going to move past that sort of thinking.

  78. Des71 on July 24th, 2010 9:48 pm

    Jack Wilson will not be riding his bicycle home in disgust tonight.

  79. pft on July 24th, 2010 9:49 pm

    Baseball can humble us all. I never would have thought this game could end up the way it did.

  80. KCrotchman on July 24th, 2010 9:49 pm

    I wish Lopez would get beaned a lot more with the bases loaded. It’s good on two levels because 1. Lopez is in pain and 2.M’s get a run.

  81. juneau_fan on July 24th, 2010 9:49 pm

    Why is Olson even considered a bullpen arm? ’cause he’s not good enough to be a starter?

    He’s just not what I want to see right now.

  82. samregens on July 24th, 2010 9:50 pm

    Nice clutch pitching by Olson (despite the Loafie error).
    And good call by Wak.
    Also good call on the the squeeze bunt.
    Nice execution today in general.

  83. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 9:54 pm

    Was the Bradley run + Wilson bunt a suicide squeeze? It looked to me like Bradley was probably running with the pitch, but the camera angle wasn’t great.

  84. Des71 on July 24th, 2010 9:58 pm

    Was the Bradley run + Wilson bunt a suicide squeeze?

    Yes, it was. Bradley was moving quickly towards home before Jack Wilson laid down the bunt.

  85. Westside guy on July 24th, 2010 10:02 pm

    Let’s hope Eric Byrnes sees it over and over in his dreams…

  86. Breadbaker on July 25th, 2010 1:33 am

    Apparently the M’s had a nice game tonight. We went to see the real team in the Northwest, and I have seen the future and it is Dustin Ackley. He had a solid single to left, and made a wonderful play at second ranging deep to his left. He made another good play charging on a slow bouncer where he didn’t get the guy (and neither would Ryne Sandberg), but he looked entirely comfortable in the field, at the plate and on the basepaths.

    Sean White, on the other hand, was not a highlight. His line won’t look that bad, but that is no reflection on how badly he pitched. Andy Baldwin got a lot of swinging strikes, the whole team showed some power, Halman got called out stealing on an atrocious call. The sun was shining and then the moon was shining.

    And some poor soul offered $525 for Mike Sweeney’s purple Rainiers jersey. I’m thinking it was Mike Sweeney or someone related to him. Sweeney, btw, looked just like Sweeney; he never saw a pitch he couldn’t offer at.

  87. Paul B on July 25th, 2010 7:52 am

    5 runs on 4 hits.

  88. nwivoryhunter on July 25th, 2010 8:56 am

    Dave, what’s your call on what to do about figgins? Obviously he is still holding a grudge over the Griffey incident and now reports he is somewhat of a cancer on the club! Will you be addressing this issue as well as the Wak situation? Thanks!

  89. Westside guy on July 25th, 2010 8:56 am

    5 runs on 4 hits.

    Against Lester, I’ll take it.

    The real problem is we don’t seem capable of getting more hits than that even against scrub pitchers.

  90. Paul B on July 25th, 2010 9:14 am

    Dave, what’s your call on what to do about figgins? Obviously he is still holding a grudge over the Griffey incident and now reports he is somewhat of a cancer on the club!

    Dave is on vacation, see the blog posts.

    I’m confused by your statement that Figgins reports he is somewhat of a cancer on the club.

  91. groundzero55 on July 25th, 2010 10:54 am

    I think he meant, there are reports that he is a cancer on the club.

  92. Westside guy on July 25th, 2010 11:04 am

    We’ve all seen that Figgy – like many ballplayers – can be rather immature emotionally; but if we’re going to start calling him a “clubhouse cancer”, some actual evidence should be offered.

    Searching for the words “Figgins” and “Cancer” doesn’t turn up much except for reader comments on blog posts, which is pretty much worthless. I could type “Gutierrez is a clubhouse cancer” on a few forums and accomplish the same thing.

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